In the Red Clay Podcast - Chapter 1: From Humble Beginnings

In Chapter 1 of our 13 part podcast series, the legend of Billy Sunday Birt still hangs over a small Georgia town.
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• Fast Train Comin'
About In the Red Clay
Buried deep in the past of a quiet southern town lies the legend of Billy Sunday Birt, the most dangerous man in Georgia history. A chance meeting one spring day unravels the truth behind the notorious figure and uncovers new secrets along the way.
In the Red Clay is a production of Imperative Entertainment. The series is created and hosted by Sean Kipe and Executive Produced by Jason Hoch and Gino Falsetto. Jason Hoch is story editor. Additional editing by Jason Hoch and Shaine Freeman. Sound engineering by Shaine Freeman. Cover art by Jeana Sullivan.

[@sheilahardison7673]

Love this podcast I'm 64 years old and I'm from Tennessee. I've heard of the DM all of my life and I'd venture to say it still exists. By the way, people who were Very Close to Buford said he was no choirboy. The movies portraying his life failed to include pertinent details.

[@geneland]

Traveling from the Tennessee to the Gulf Coast we happened upon this podcast on I heart radio and we were engrossed and entertained by it. Still listening to it after the vacation is over.

[@peachqtpi]

My grandfather and daddy ran moonshine in the 60s in GA. The stories are legend.

[@carolynjustagagirl2315]

;)

[@snus9088]

No lies**

[@jacobmark726]

Yup same here

[@tabethameeks2978]

Don't let nobody anybody kid you they're still here

[@dddddadadad1796]

I listened to this podcast like 2 years ago, and it saved my life!!!!! I hope the creator(s) see this message bc you have NO IDEA how you helped me thru one of the lowest periods in my life. THANK U

[@davidgibbs1467]

I grew up in North Georgia I run around with some of these men kids back in the 70s at least I was told they were DM, been so long ago now just vague memories. But this story brought back some memories

[@three23c]

Hands down the best podcast I've ever listened to.

[@klolwtf6973]

Wow.

[@fixitallpaul4847]

Look up Radio Lab Goat on a cows back.

[@invxin7793]

It is worrying that more people don't know of this amazing story!

[@gregwalter3951]

Is there a discussion board anywhere?

[@jumahbrady670]

​@@gregwalter3951no discussion board but a love for organized crime

[@invxin7793]

No, I don't think so.@@gregwalter3951

[@youngtragedy3281]

i love hearing this los Angeles man talk about my birthplace.

[@MemphisKennedy-xy5ye]

It's ironic isn't it.

[@ericchristian6710]

We ain't got no forest floor in Georgia. We call that the ground.

[@billharden7127]

It's the same here in SOUTH CAROLINA.

[@raysraves474]

Wow!!! Poor people do desperate things . God Blessss em🫂

[@ericchristian6710]

For y'all Yankees and chill'en what he says at 26:05 is " my daddy's mother, set a lot of store by him." Translation: she held him and his word in high esteem, and since public schools suck these days what that means is she liked him and believed in him.

[@invxin7793]

It's just sad that people nowadays don't get these sayings!

[@molley5175]

Yankees don't know nothing. They should just stay home.

[@invxin7793]

@@molley5175 That's what i'm saying!

[@molley5175]

@@invxin7793 can't stand them with Thier big mouths! Look at them now, coming to our areas taking over with their b.s. go home and go under, and leave the south alone! They do not belong with us!.

[@BossHogg81]

My uncle was Sheriff Buford Pusser and the Dixie Mafia tried to murder him several times and did murder his wife Pauline. It was a crazy time back then. I really enjoyed your podcast

[@carolynjustagagirl2315]

WHY was B. Pusher seen carrying Pauline's shoes out of the house after he was seen putting Pauline in the car? Why did Pauline's daughter hear a shot that night? Would love to hear your thoughts. No disrespect, I have family also, some with skeletons some not. God bless & keep.

[@jerrytownsend2043]

Why did he take the long way to the disturbance instead of the more direct and faster highway route?

[@dkanizai84]

Did you hear about them exhuming Pauline's body??

[@tedestes1120]

@@carolynjustagagirl2315 NONE of what you just stated has EVER, EVER been proven or even slightly legitimized. You've been drinking ELAM Kool-Aid.

[@MARKDESSRT]

@@carolynjustagagirl2315 WHY didn't anyone say something 50yrs ago? What is your opinion, do think Pusser was really the one who shot & killed Towhead?

[@reginastone2255]

I definitely heard of it. I believe there were some in Southeast GA as well

[@berenisv4553]

This is a gem

[@johnbrowning4490]

This podcast is great! I went to that bookstore and bought the book, can’t put it down , that cyclone and Billy’s ability to drive that car,, I wonder who runs the the show in all these counties today, the government?

[@baxterfarmandhomestead7481]

It’s been the government since the early 1900s if not earlier. The Dixie Mafia covered more than a few counties. It covered the Southeastern United States.

[@tnreprasentog7769]

My great grandfather was a moonshiner back in the day in the hills of Kentucky and Tennessee his name was Lucian Bone

[@SifuTimBerkemeier]

I was visiting a friend in Georgia and ran into Billy at Walmart. I never heard of the Dixie Mafia or any of the Georgia stories. Billy led me to this podcast. Real nice man A great podcast,you did a great job putting this together. I love the sound effects of the fire and crackling you just did a real good job here. Got yourself a new subscriber I may have a story for you in the near future, let me know if you're interested

[@MARKDESSRT]

His father was criminal, I don't really know what all he was involved in, but the son started calling him a member of the Dixie Mafia.

[@watchdog304]

Fantastic job!

[@edisont.picard4112]

Who in Georgia calls the trunk a "boot"? That's how the Brits talk. I've never heard an American say that.

[@beckyparadise3707]

Depends on where in ga u r from and what decade

[@bethbrafford1752]

My mother was from Eastern North Carolina and she said boot

[@ToddiGreat-le2qu]

Turtle hull

[@PETMonique]

I'm from SC and I call it the boot

[@melindalemmon2149]

My MS Marine daddy always said boot. Made my brother climb in and sleep.

[@teresastark6055]

It is a household conversation in my parts. Look up the Sherry murders in Biloxi.

[@emersontayten]

Fantastic production. On to part 2. Subbed. Nice work!

[@davidswint9238]

Awesome job!

[@trent3872]

Ive lived in some back woods Georgia places, man theres some dark creepy places, but i guess every state has them.

[@fixitallpaul4847]

Im in NH and remember hearing about the Dixie Mafia. We had a mafia in Boston called the winter hill gang. Whitey Bulgers group. When you heard talk about winter hill someone would always bring up the Dixie mafia.

[@RDT-alwaysandforever]

Interesting information your sharing re: your prior knowledge of DM and how its name came up when Bulger's gang was mentioned. Do you happen to know why the two groups' names went hand-in-hand, other than both being criminal enterprises. Just curious. Thanks for sharing!

[@peachqtpi]

Stoney loved his father. He might have idolized him when he was young, but no more. He’s very honest about his father. He’s also very open about how much he loved his father, and honest about their life outside the crime.

[@caseyaylward8853]

Great show

[@StevenPhillips-d7n]

Timeless...

[@gavinwilson114]

My father was clifford lean wilson 3rd macon ga dixie mafia moonshiner and hit man my grandmother told me about 6 robberys and 4 muders from the 80s to like 90s to the early 2000s

[@Turtlepower518]

My Great Uncle was murdered by the Dixie Mafia. Its been years since i was told the story by my grandma. I do recall her saying he was shot, thrown into an old well and dynamite being involved. His body wasnt discovered for years. That was my childhood introduction to The Dixie Mafia

[@Turtlepower518]

Also, his murder was the result of an argument/bar fight. Quite possible this mans Father was the one who did it as listen and read about how and why he did certain things

[@RDT-alwaysandforever]

If you're not already aware, the Dixie Mafia wasn't just a Georgia "thing." Alabama, Georgia and Mississippi each had their own "chapters" if you will which were called Dixie Mafia. I suspect Louisiana did as well but have no confirmation. Each group operated and controlled within its own state UNLESS a specific situation was bettered handled by someone with either more experience and/or wasn't known in that state. (e.g., Mississippi DM might call on a member of Alabama's DM for a job in Mississippi) Your great-uncle was probably murdered by the DM state "branch" where his murder occurred. Someone commented on a different chapter that Buford Pusser, of "Walking Tall" fame, was his uncle. Members of the DM have always been suspected in both Pusser and his wife's (earlier) death. Those suspects are/were members of MS (and possibly AL) DM.

[@MARKDESSRT]

@@RDT-alwaysandforever I never heard anyone refer to the Dixie Mafia as chapters.

[@RDT-alwaysandforever]

If you look at my post again, you may notice I used quotation marks to set off the word, chapters. Doing so is a way of noting a word/term/phrase is used in a unique manner, e g., while not an official term it nonetheless aptly describes the relationships between each state's group.

[@diggernash1]

Hoschton is pronounced Hoosh tun; sorta rhymes with whoosh...

[@ericchristian6710]

I'm not far from there. I had a buddy who told me his relative started it but I don't remember if he told me a name,I do remember that he said it was around winder and I thought he was wrong because I had only heard of them being in miss. I've heard a few other stories about people being connected to them and I always thought they were lying because I didn't think they had ever been anywhere around here. Now I see I was wrong

[@carolynjustagagirl2315]

Love your podcast, however BUFORD was not murdered he was drunk driving and wrecked.. Do you know his Bac??

[@chocolategravyandbiscuits8418]

This is one of the best podcasts I’ve listened to. Didn’t listen on KZbin but almost want to relisten

[@DJK-cq2uy]

😂😂pfffft hmmmph

[@crystalblissett6304]

My grandfather was a boss in the Dixie Mafia and was one of the last to get caught. He only got caught because he had a counterfeit press but the fbi never connected him to the Dixie Mafia because everyone was too scared to rat him out.

[@invxin7793]

What was his name?

[@nothingbuttrue9875]

Was he from a little town called Waco Georgia

[@gibsonrickenbacker6317]

What was his name? My grandfather is in this podcast. He was one of the six kingpins

[@Blumonkeyyt]

My great grandma was n the podcast

[@SharkGirl655]

My great uncle was Harold Chancey. I grew up hearing so many horrible stories.

[@donnaturner4795]

I thought for sure he'd have put copperheads in that ole car...

[@donnaturner4795]

I thought for sure he'd have put copperheads in that ole car...

[@sepperD3]

My grandfather served nearly 20 years in Louisiana for his connection to kirksey nix and others in the 1960s he was called for interviews and book deals but he never spoke at all until he was 80 about what all happened but he did claim that " Dixie mafia" was a made up name created by news papers he went to his grave with a lot of guilt but I loved hearing the stories

[@MARKDESSRT]

@sepperD Who was your grandfather?

[@donnaturner4795]

I thought for sure he'd have put copperheads in that ole car...

[@donnaturner4795]

I thought for sure he'd have put copperheads in that ole car...

[@f2foutdoors]

Sherriff Pussier died in a solo car accident on his way back from a daughters sporting event. Sad part is she was in a car behind him to see it.

[@carolynjustagagirl2315]

And intoxicated.

[@DaleDanErnie]

Buford pussers death was thought to be an assassination.

[@Randers69]

She was dunk and hey... Remember, Democrat politicians ran these people off the road like princess Diana. Keep that in mind you ignorant little boy

[@kerrynixon3968]

Wow, good stuff

[@robbie5984]

Are these different than the episodes on Apple Podcasts? The audio seems different.

[@ShaneSmith-j6h]

Dixie mafia originated in Arkansas lol

[@mikey-joecaudell8808]

Its pronounced "hoosh-tun" Georgia

[@デスマッチレスリング]

10

[@northwestarizona8542]

No way can I push Like, as it'd bring up triple 6. I just can't do it.

[@williammagnuson8508]

Is that where the name boot ledger originated?

[@BrianWeiford]

Did Billy Birt ever kill anyone and put them in the "BOOT"of his car? He may have put him in a "TRUNK" Moy a boot! Lol

[@DJK-cq2uy]

Good grief...wth is this nonsense?

[@FlyingPusssyfoot]

I've heard about these guys like they were either Robin Hood type characters or pure evil. This has been amazing. Your channel deserves more subscribers. Liked subscribed and shared!

[@SharkGirl655]

Any other Chanceys from Winder here? Did you guys also grow up learning about your own family in school?