Incra Miter 5000 Sled Assembly Quality And First Impressions

[@marklmueller-incra3840]

Excellent review, thanks for the feedback. My apologies for the damaged components. We can get you replacements if you’ll forward your address, and a few photos will help me better understand what you’re seeing (contact info below). To smooth out and reduce the effort of adjusting both miter bars, remove the black adjusting screws, put a dab of grease on their threads, and reinstall them. On the aluminum miter bar for the drop panel, a thin film of grease on the tapered edges of the wedge nuts under the aluminum miter bar in addition to a dab of grease on the threads should do the trick, and we can send replacement adjusters if it doesn’t. The difficulty in expanding the aluminum miter bar is in the adjusters, not the bar, and reducing friction will allow the miter bar to solidly lock the small drop panel to the table without much effort. We occasionally see stubborn adjusters through tolerances in the parts. The machining on the aluminum miter bar is correct. The grooves are left blind at the bottom, and this area intentionally fractures as the bar expands. Again, follow up with me if greasing the adjusters doesn’t solve the problem. Let me know if I can address any questions on the sled - 888.804.6272 xt 4. I’m also happy to address your other concerns… our goal is offering US-made equipment with excellent performance at the lowest possible price, and manufacturing anything requires a long series of compromises between cost and benefit (some of which will be unpopular) to arrive at that price. Please follow up with me on the damaged parts. Mark Mueller Tech, Sales & User Support Manager Taylor Design Group / Incra Tools 888.804.6272, xt 4 [e-mail]

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

Most of what's left is cosmetic. Blotchy and scratched red anodized on the red flip stop frame, some corners of the base board dinged from how the stop was poorly taped to it for shipping. The fence extension is a different color anodized then the fence and it was .005 wider then the fence that I fixed with a shim in the follow up video plus a kink in one of the scales that looks like it was folded on an angle before inserting. That expanding aluminium rail is total junk in my book for a t slot. The bottom opens up so it can't be dropped in anymore and the top doesn't move enough no matter how tight the screws are until it's bumped out with a chisel. I don't use grease near any areas that contact wood on my equipment so I will probably just swap in a old kreg rail I have in the future. I couldn't believe the cuts in the fence extrusions weren't cleaned up before packaging at this price point. It works good and nothing is really broken to need replacement. Just hope you look at some of these issues for future buyers to have a better out of box experience. I registered it and added a note about this video to show my first impressions with this product. Thanks for watching.

[@marklmueller-incra3840]

Sorry about that. Parts like the fences are normally wiped down after deburring, and the offer stands to replace the parts that are cosmetically outside the normal range. Sending you a replacement for the drop panel’s aluminum miter bar would be an easy fix - it will drop straight in, expand & lock in place with easily, and lift right out when loosened. With the adjusters functioning correctly, the bars expand at the top as well as the bottom. I understand your skepticism about the aluminum miter bar based on your experience, but that design has worked great for us in the bigger picture. The aluminum Miter Sliders have been in production not quite 30 years, and I'd estimate we've sold around 200,000 of them. An off-the-record note to other viewers: Having used the 5000 sled for 20 years myself, I want to mention that the small offcut-side panel really should be rigidly locked to the saw's top while cutting.

[@aceavian]

Looks to me like Incra has some excellent customer service, this is why I will continue to buy from them!

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

If you think a replacement bar will actually work better, I will send you a email with my info to give it another chance. I will also include some photos of the parts in question for you to decide if they are outside what you consider normal. I did actually add a screw and t nut to secure that off cut panel because sawdust could work its way under the edges and raise it up while using as it slid back and forth. I will get that out in the morning.

[@jimwiskus8862]

@@marklmueller-incra3840 I am thrilled to see that Mark from Incra contacted you! I will definitely keep an eye out for future conversations with Mark. I am considering buying one of these for my restored 1946 Walker Turner. I just want it correct in fit and finish out of the box for that kind of money. Thank you to everyone involved for helping this gentleman out. I appreciate his demeanor and sweet spirit in handling this issue.

[@kr5289]

I watch a lot of KZbin videos but have only ever subscribed to two, yours and April Wilkerson. The one thing that I noticed is that you do, is reply to almost every question. most don't. You do great videos. Thanks

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

Thanks. I try to reply to all comments but some days it can be tough to keep up as my channel grows. I feel if someone spends the time writing a comment they deserve an answer from my point of view. Thanks for watching my videos and subscribing to my channel.

[@One_Ton_YJ]

Thanks for the in depth review. I have been looking really hard at this setup. For the money and to be made in USA, I was expecting better quality control. It was nice seeing the good and bad instead of the biased sponsored reviews.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

It works good now that it's assembled, cleaned up and tweaked. I expected better quality out of the box from incra. I will do an update soon because I found the stop system is useless with a sacrificial board for clean cuts and scrap removal like I have always used. Thanks for watching.

[@kennethrowe1752]

Nice video. I purchased mine about 15 years ago. It is my go to miter sled. I have had to replace the nylon adjustment bushings on the miter slot a few times due to much use. On my sled the fence wasn't square to the table either. Mine had no adjustment so just slid a .010 shim in the space behind the fence which has worked well. I did replace the right side panel when I changed table saws. Over all it has performed very well. A good investment. No significant quality control issues showed up on my sled 15 years ago.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

After using it a while I did not like the clumsy incra fence and stop. I have a more recent video replacing the incra extrusions with a kreg extrusion and stop that makes it safer, easier to use and lets me cut 24 inches. This really was a waste of money to me. Thanks for watching.

[@rickherrin5364]

I know it's too late now but I just got my new Incra 5000 and I got the "new and improved" offcut rail. I don't know if they saw your video or they got a lot of complaints but I can either let it slide or lock it down very easily. Thank you for the video, it really helped!!!

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

That's a good change. I have another video about how I replaced the clumsy hard to use inra extrusions that make it easier to use and safer for me. Thanks for watching.

[@terryreed1421]

A good review. I like how you point out the good with the less than perfect.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

It's a nice jig after assembly. Just expected better out of box experience for the price point. Thanks for watching.

[@trainwon5699]

The people at Incra are awesome to work with! I’ve been a customer for over fifteen years love there tools thanks

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

It works good so that's all that counts. I was surprised by the quality at this price point. Thanks for watching.

[@waterbuddy92]

*their

[@timothydaniels504]

I had exactly the same problem with that aluminum slider on the right side of the blade. You worry that you’re going to ruin the screws. Thanks for the effort you put into this review. Well done.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

Those guides do not work well with t tracks. They look to be made for u tracks where they didn't have to spread so far. Everything about this sled is old technology. I have an updated video showing how switching out the extrusion with a kreg extrusion makes it easier and safer for me to use. Thanks for watching.

[@timothydaniels504]

Thanks for the update. I’ve always had mixed feelings about the Incra sled.

[@truegritbulldog]

Appreciate this vid. I inherited this sled, it had ben sitting, in my way in the basement for about a year, with me using my home made sled until I figured this one out. YOur vid was very helpful. I knew you were a handy dude when I saw you chisel the aluminium rail... Your attention to detail was great... Again thanks!

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

Glad it helped. I have a more recent video about how l replaced the Incra fence with a kreg fence making it easier for me to use and safer. Thanks for watching.

[@devastator223]

Thanks this video helped setup easier. With that said it Is milled correctly. I messed up a bit the first time I was setting the bar up. I wanted to flatten the sides out and reinstall. I noticed the nuts on the underside are a wedge shape. I put them back on incorrectly the first time. I removed them put the wedge towards the screw head and all was well. Worked perfectly well.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

Those expanding tracks are not good in t slots. They work in the rectangular slots. This jig was definitely a waste of money in the end. I did an update replacing all the hard to use incra fence and stops with a kreg extrusion to make it easier and safer to use. Thanks for watching.

[@chf1949]

I appreciate the time you spent on this review, as Incra was on my list of things to upgrade my current miter... I may have to reevaluate my thinking.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

It's a nice sled once the bugs are worked out. It's a shame the quality wasn't better. It's the best option I could find without building my own. I think there's a lot of corner cutting for higher profits going on in businesses these days. I would buy it at the $280.00 that I paid for it again but not the full $360. 00 list price. Thanks for watching.

[@jimwiskus8862]

I concur with RB&R, my first question is will this work on a standard table saw top with the old school miter slot? My is the standard 3/4”x3/8” miter slot. Did you contact Incra about the lack of quality and poor finish here & there? I too was considering this, but I’m not sure. You’ve done a great service to your fellow woodworkers.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

James it will work with a old school slot. That aluminum track would even work better without the t slot because it expands at the bottom. I attached a note with the product registration and there are now comments from incra about replacing parts in the video comments. I have to send them pictures to let them determine if they vary from their normal quality. It works good once assembled, cleaned up, and aligned so its just cosmetics. Wish the base was larger so a 23 inch panel like they advertise could be cut without being unsupported for the first few inches. I think it's going to be a great addition to the shop. If you buy one leave a comment about the condition yours arrives in. I really like the positive stops for setting angles and the adjustability. I was disappointed with the out of box quality and glad that I found a good sale. Thanks for watching.

[@RAYKACZAR]

I just bought one today, thank you for the explanation for assembly, very helpful!

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

I wound up tossing all the clunky Incra extrusions and stop after using it a while. Replaced them with Kreg parts to make mine safer and easier for me to use. There's a video about the swap. Thanks for watching.

[@jcarlin]

Really useful review! Thanks for being so thorough.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

Thanks. I have other videos about changes I made to it. Thanks for watching.

[@petrusscott3038]

Excellent review. I’m surprised about the build quality. I would have expected more from Incra considering they are a premium brand.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

You and me both. I have a recent video replacing the incra extrusions with a easier to use kreg extrusion that gives me wider cut capacity and is safer to use. Thanks for watching.

[@Loren9431]

This may have come up later in these reviews, but I had to true my miter slots. They were "sticky" due to some rust, so I had to use some 400 grit sandpaper and wood blocks to make the slots more useable. Once I did that my Incra miter bar slide evenly and smoothly. I appreciated your review and your comments, both good and not-so-good about the Incra product.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

My miter slot is perfectly ground and the sled slider works great. It is accurate and works good but is not worth the msrp in my book. Rockler has the 20% off deal going on again . Thanks for watching.

[@snturner10]

I like that plexiglass you added to your table saw to support the fence of the miter gauge

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

There's a video about it. Great for keeping a standard miter gauge from hanging up. Thanks for watching.

[@RobertMSmith1]

I have several Incra tools , 100% happy with all of them , I had an issue with one item and called Incra ,They replaced the part , only question was my zip code . Great video !

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

It works good now that its cleaned up, aligned and shimed. They definitely don't take pride in quality . Thanks for watching.

[@GeeDeeBird]

Cutting those slots looks like a good job for the dewalt multi-tool I got for my birthday!!

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

They are a very handy tool. Depending on your slot type you may not have to cut them. I have updates making this easier to use and safer with kreg extrusions. Thanks for watching.

[@Scsmith110]

Great video. I couldn't understand all the directions from Incra. Perhaps consider different angles for your camera. Oftentimes your hands or fingers were in the way of what you were doing and it was difficult to see. But I couldn't have got my Infra Miter 5000 finished without this good video. Thank you.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

This was one item that really was a waste of money in the end. Clumsy and dangerous to use for my needs. I wound up switching to a kreg extrusion and stop with overhang for safety in another video. Thanks for watching.

[@duin2in]

I've been researching this sled because I'm going to be upgrading to a sawstop soon and want a great setup for accurate crosscuts. Thank you for pointing out the not so great things and giving an honest review. Between everything else I've read/seen i will still be picking one up and very excited for it. Would be sweet if there is another 20% coupon though lol

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

I have another video about replacing the incra fence and stop that were a pain to use with a kreg fence and stop that makes it a easier to use sled and now I can cut 24 inches safely. Thanks for watching.

[@duin2in]

@@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023 oh awesome, ill check it out!

[@travisoliver3811]

Great video sir. Thank you for taking the time.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

Thanks for watching.

[@wrightrestorations.5190]

I just bought the miter gauge 1000hd. i have to agree those track screws are insanely tight. Overall im very happy with the accuracy. But i did have a some imperfections as well on the anodized fence.. Last night i ordered the table saw fence and router fence. It will take several weeks to get here. Fingers crossed it will be well packed. Thanks for a great review.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

Contact them about the anodizing. They are replacing a couple parts that I showed having poor finishing. I was told that to keep the price down this is the new norm. The old Incra parts that I have seen were all pristine. If enough buyers complain about it maybe they will do something about it. let me know how the other fences look when they arrive. At least they have retained the accuracy. Thanks for watching.

[@timforgot]

@@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023 The price isn't down, though. It's ridiculously expensive compared to what they're paying for the same Chinese stuff we can all get on Aliexpress for 1/3, even after shipping. Thanks for your channel, bud. I think you might be my dad - were you wild when you were younger? lol

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

@@timforgot It's sad to say but made in the USA means nothing anymore. I had my days. Thanks for watching.

[@timforgot]

@@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023 Not sure I'm willing to say it means nothing, but I'll say without reservation that the conflict between the marketing folks and the engineering folks was won, decisively, by the marketing folks.

[@timforgot]

But to be clear, that was just a battle, not the entire war. There's room for the U.S. to become a manufacturer again. Germany is a great model, as is (for the time being) Taiwan. My Oregon-purchased Taiwanese-machined Pantorouter is an impressively well built machine. Machine tolerances are a lot like fried food in that it matters how often they change the oil (or active tooling) lol. And all you have to do to raise the quality is pay for it (as a manufacturer). Once you know that, it becomes clear who isn't paying for quality.

[@garyconway439]

My right hand table saw t-slot bar must have been milled a bit deeper as it did split open once I tightened down on the 2 expansion mechanisms. I then had the exact problem you mentioned ... but after hanging out a bit with it I realized that the bar could be mounted forward and back of its final position. There are 2 sets of screws about 5" apart, I mounted the right hand side upper 2 screws to the bars lower 2 threads, this allowed cutting the the first half of the RHS base with the bar properly engaged in the t-slot. I then remounted the bar so that that expansion mechanism was fully engaged while cutting the 2nd half of the base. Hope this make sense! When done my RHS base was cut without any wiggle. I certainly agree they could have-should have designed this better.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

I have a newer video about replacing the Incra extrusions and stop with a simple to use kreg extrusion to make it easier and safer for me to use. This is one item I wouldn't buy again. Thanks for watching.

[@davidshaw7337]

I enjoyed your video. thinking about buy the incra miter sled. but what I really want to know is what is the clear acrylic piece attached to the left side of your saw on the front of the rail

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

It's a support I made. There's a video about making it back a couple years. Helps with wider cuts. There's another video about making the sled safer and easier to use with kreg extrusions Thanks for watching.

[@bykergus]

Well.. Rockler says it's NOT AVAILABLE .. and i don't think those 20% off coupons are around much anymore, either .. Great video, really saw what I was looking for. Honest - non-sponsored. Thank you!

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

I wouldn't buy it again. I have some other videos about making it usable for my needs. Switched to Kreg extrusions. Thanks for watching.

[@jsabados]

Excellent review. Thank you for taking the time to post this.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

It works good, just a little rough around the edges for the price. Thanks for watching.

[@michaell7877]

I was thinking about buying the 5000. Not sure now. I will give Mark and Neil kudo's they helped me a lot to install there whole table saw equipment. I bough the TS/LS system, plus the I-Box system plus the Router table extension on the table saw too. The I-Box I rate much higher. The TS/LS is a pain in the butt to put together. I had to hire a guy from Woodcraft to assemble it for me. I helped him, and the guy is very knowledgable about woodworking tools and gadgets, and we were on the phone quite a bit with them. We got it together finally. I thought about sending it back before assembly. Too many boxes though. Plus I didn't take it out of the box til several months after I had gotten it. I had several boxes with the lsts system or I would have. Now that I have been using it, and set it each time with a new saw blade. I didn't have the same problems you had. And believe me when I tell you, if you look at there ts/ls and router extension you would of thought someone was nuts going through all that setup. Pretty expensive system cause I bought the router table extension along with the tsls system. Mark and Neil helped us through it. They backup what they say. Had I to do over? Never! I agree with you about how shoddy the workmanship of your sled. NO excuse for that. I don't like one bit seeing the problems you have had with setup and shoddy workmanship! If that had happen to me with the huge system that I bought? I would have packed it up and drove it out to them, that would have ticked me off more lol. But I didn't. Just a lot of parts and tedious to put together. I wouldn't do it over if I had the choice, but remember, I bought a whole bigger system. A lot to put together. Plus, Neil and Mark didn't have to send me any parts either. Which I am surprised with your review of the 5000. I hope Mark and Neil have done whatever they need to do to correct the poor workmenship. I'm not sure I will buy the 5000 now after reading your review. One ore thing. Me being disabled and can't really bend over and getting up there in age, I say this because of my situation. However, most of you don't have the problems I have so you would probably do much better. If asked would I but the stuff again? I am going to contradict myself and say, yes I would, only hire two guys to put it together for me. LOL. Thank you.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

This sled has not impressed me but you seem to like the way incra things work so you may like it. Mark replaced the slider that didn't expand properly and the blotchy stop arms. New slider did the same thing. Then later I had an issue with the he main board swelling between the mounting screws and they replaced the board. I have a recent video about getting rid of the hard to use incra fence / stop and replacing it with a simple kreg fence and stop for quick accurate settings without wasting time or having to adjust tiny hard to grip hardware. I wouldn't buy it or any incra tool again after seeing how complicated and slow to use their products are. Thanks for watching.

[@ianrose2823]

The Osbourne is fabulous! Have had the same one for over 15 years.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

Never heard of that. Thanks for watching.

[@dannmarks]

I enjoyed the detailed analysis...

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

Thanks. This is one item I wouldn't buy again. Thanks for watching.

[@Jeffh0203]

Awesome video. I love how you went into a very detailed review of this. Pointed out the good and the bad. Which is important for an honest review. It looks like you’ve had it for a few months now. If you take out the manufacture defects. Would recommend buying it for its ez of use and accuracy of it?

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

It's accurate and repeatable so I feel it's worth what I paid for it but no more. I have shown it in other videos and the flip stop is a real pain in the ass if you move it often. The thumb screws are small and hard to adjust along with the toothed strips that don't just let you move it a couple thousands without using the tool to loosen and tighten screws. It's definitely better then my old kreg miter gauge. Thanks for watching.

[@FamilyMentors]

As far as cleanup goes, I reported a scratch on my TS-LS, and Incra gave me a choice between partial credit or replacement.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

They replaced some parts and told me the variation in color of the anodized parts was to save money and keep the price down. Thanks for watching.

[@Realfacts-4040]

Useful review scrubbing this from the which one to buy spreadsheet!

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

It is definitely accurate. They replaced some of the parts. I dumped all the complex incra fence and stop for a simple kreg extrusion and stop that makes it safer and easier to use. Thanks for watching.

[@MacTech007]

Excellent review. I hope INCRA watches your video review.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

So do I. At least it works good. Thanks for watching.

[@TheFalconJetDriver]

And Incra did watch this video, Mark Muller reached out to him, to resolve his issues. If you had a negative experience with another product and you posted your displeasure with the product do you think they would reach out to you to make you happy? Let’s try cable companies? Cell phone companies? Your Banking institution? Your Congress Critter. The IRS? Not everyone can be pleased! However if you purchase an Incra Product and you are not happy Incra will do everything they can to resolve your issue.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

Not what you expect for a out of box experience of a product in this price range. Seems like it's the norm these days and some expect it but it really should be handled with some quality control before packing. Not what I expected from a company like incra. I don't doctor videos up and what you see is exactly what my experience was good or bad. It's a big waste of valuable time having to replace parts and fix stuff that is not right to begin with on a large purchase like this.

[@2shoestoo]

I have many Incra products and have been very satisfied. I do know that they are very helpful working out any problems with there products. Give them a call and I’m sure they will replace anything your not happy with.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

I was going to buy a couple more Incra tools but now feel they are not worth the premium. I finished cleaning it up today , made a .005 shim for the fence and it works good so it's not worth wasting more time. The finishes and scratches will always remind me about the poor quality but don't affect the operation. It's sad that companies don't take pride in what they put in the box. Thanks for watching.

[@gregmislick1117]

Although the chisel punch is excellent for frustration relief, I'm surprised you didn't just jig it up in the mill and finish the work Incra took a powder on....I guess you were REALLY frustrated at that point. Excellent review. Incra should take notice.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

That whole bar is junk. It looks to be designed for rectangular slots not t slots. The bottom expands but the top doesn't so there is no way to get it right. I was surprised by it and the cosmetics. Thanks for watching.

[@dwayneford1990]

Did you ever consider contacting them about your concerns? For the price it should not have such blatant flaws in the machining. This would not have passed Woodpecker's review process.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

I sent them a link to this video and they contacted me. I always show exactly what I received when doing a box opening video good or bad. There are some follow ups but I definitely would not buy it again. I wound up putting a kreg fence on it to improve safety and usability. Disappointing for a higher end made in the USA product. Thanks for watching.

[@CycoBillywoodworking]

nice job on your review i just bought the 1000se and it is very accurate after i fussed with it for a few hrs its ok but the quality doesn't seem to be there priority

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

It definitely is accurate but for the price point I expected a little better quality. Corporate profits seem to be killing quality these days. Thanks for watching.

[@wrongfullyaccused7139]

Nice video. Very helpful. What are all of those 1/2" holes on the red sled used for?

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

To access the slide adjustment screws. Thanks for watching.

[@rickgreen9936]

Well you popped my bubble about Incra. For the money and their past reputation I would expect nothing less than 100% perfection. Like you said "now a days" I guess in comparison to any alternative it is better and the good enough mentality. Thanks for the review.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

That's what I expected. My first Incra tool and it turned out being no better then any other brand. Luckily it's all cosmetic and it works good. Glad I got it at the sale price. Thanks for watching.

[@dougprentice1363]

It is surprising they didn't clean up the cut edges. All of my incra stuff came imnacuatly clean. But that was 15 years ago.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

It looks like they just sanded the cuts and threw the parts in the box. The red anodize is very splotchy and scratched along with 2 different shades of gold. not what I expected from Incra. At least it works OK. Thanks for watching.

[@stevem268]

i think it's time that Jessem did this, i love my jessem router stuff and miter guage. a miter sled is especially good for small repitive stuff

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

Jessem has much better quality then Incra. Thanks for watching.

[@bobwfromtheusa3602]

Is your saw a left or right tilt blade? Majority of new saws these days are left tilting for safety reasons but the instructions are written for a right tilt so you have to reverse everything they tell you. Makes a difference when you decide which miter slot, right or left, to set the sled up using before you cut the end pieces off. I called Incra first just to be sure I understood their instruction manual before I went any further. They didn't have a great explanation except to say it was written a few years ago and hadn't been updated recently.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

I mounted it on the left so it is indexed against the Harbor for use with dado blades. Dumped all that complicated incra fence and stop for a kreg extrusion that is much easier to use and safer. This is a big disappointment. Thanks for watching.

[@bobwfromtheusa3602]

Could you elaborate on the Kreg extrusion, what you used and why it is easier and safer to use. I looked on their website and they have many different types. Thanks.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

I have a recent video about the changeover . Search my channel for krin.

[@michaell7877]

I would have called customer service for sure. I have a lot of Incra tools. There customer service managers are good at making things right. I would have never thought of using that chisel. I do agree those guide screws can be very difficult to adjust. Thanks...

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

With the camera running when I open the box l always show exactly what I received and how it went together. I figure this is what anyone that bought one would encounter. Nothing is broken and it works after cleaning up, assembling, and tweaking so I will live with the cosmetic issues. I expected better quality control from a product at this price point and most likely won't buy anymore Incra products for my channel as I was going to. That guide seems to be for rectangular style slots and not t slots. The tapered wedge expands at the bottom but not the top so it will never work right and a replacement would be the same so why bother calling. Thinking about replacing it with the kreg bar to fix it right. Thanks for watching.

[@yangkeyphan]

I’ve watched about 15 reviews on this miter sled, I I’ve now heard ONE that sticks out from the others. I now have to decide who to listen to. One that had many problems and maybe 50% satisfied (if I were that disappointed, I would send it back), or 14 the were 99% satisfied.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

I was able to replace all the clumsy Incra fence with a kreg extrusion and stop that made it easier to use and safer for my needs. Not what I expected from Incra. Thanks for watching.

[@melvmay]

I just came to assemble mine and one of the holes in the steel mitre bar isn’t threaded so you can only screw in 2 of the three. The hole is bare so their QA process is terrible or non-existent. So frustrating.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

Profit over quality seems to be the trend these days. Costs less to have the customer do the final inspection and repair. Thanks for watching.

[@SparkeyDogfish]

Not sure if you covered this already as lots of reply’s. I think you can get a longer panel cut if you move the fence back some more. No need to have the whole miter gauge on the sled.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

Can't do that. I tossed the incra fence and used a kreg extrusion that gives more space and is easier to use. There is a video about it. Thanks for watching.

[@clintprice2123]

You have a great demeanor, I’d have packed it back up and sent it back. Watching this I see you still give them credit for the good you saw in it. Why not send them the link to this video and they will see real time assembly and how out of whack it was.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

It works good now that it's assembled cleaned up, and tweaked. This was my first incra tool and I expected better quality based on their previous reputation and price point of it. I am starting to think this is the norm to expect in the future as companies cut corners to raise profits. I was just happy that UPS didn't destroy it in shipping like they have been lately. I left them a note on the warranty registration about my concerns. Thanks for watching.

[@RXRSawdustStation]

Excellent video, URHC! I'm surprised by the Quality Control misses @INCRATOOLS #IncraTools exhibits here. Darn shame. I watched this video because when I get two nickels to rub together I'm going to be in the market for a quality Miter Gauge. I hope they reach out to you to make this right. Let us know if/when they do, please. Also, I checked their Social Media accounts - KZbin, Instagram and Twitter - and they haven't been active for some time now. Also a shame. Thanks for the video, URHC! All the best! #KeepTheChipsFlying!

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

I included a note about this with my product registration and there are comments from them on this video now about replacing items. I had to send them pictures of things shown in the video to let them decide if the issues are outside of their norm. They say the aluminum guide was defective and will send a replacement. I really expected better from incra out of the box. It works good and seems very accurate so far and that is what really counts. Thanks for watching.

[@jcarlin]

Would it be overkill to try to use this with a (Sawstop) jobsite sized saw?

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

I think it would have limited capacity and useless on a small saw. Thanks for watching.

[@jcarlin]

@@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023 I was hoping it would lend some big-saw-precision to my small saw

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

Make a big table in front of the saw to extend the miter slot for stability and it would help some or you would loose a lot of cut capacity.

[@catloverjoel1017]

Nice vid keep going like that. By the way what model is your table saw?.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

Thanks. It's a grizzly G1023. I have several videos about it. Thanks for watching.

[@ShawnClarady]

My mitter slot bar was the same way. I made one from Oak.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

They sent me a replacement and same thing. They are made for old saws that don't have the t slot. This whole thing is showing it's age. Thanks for watching.

[@michaelkaye4998]

Did you interact with INCRA on these issues, including the cosmetic ones? If so what was their response?

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

They sent some replacement parts that weren't much better. I replaced all the hard to use incra parts with a kreg extrusion and stops finally that make it safer and easier for me to use. It's one of those items I wouldn't buy again. Thanks for watching.

[@tomsears2471]

Great video. I like the attention to detail as you work through the assembly. Curious about the clear attachment you added on left of your fence rail. Has that been covered that in a video?

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

Here's the video link kzbin.info/www/bejne/aITRqZWXrtCHgLc It's just a little extra support for the miter gauge. Thanks for watching.

[@say-dq1th]

I also have this sled. The reason we pay the premium for things like this is for quality, precision and customer support. If any of those things are lacking we as customers should hold them to this higher standard. Hope you got them to take care of your issues. Thanks for sharing.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

They did send out a replacement aluminum rail and stop arms. It's accurate but I didn't like the fence or stop complexity. Recently the main board buckled up between the screws and they covered that also. This definitely isn't premium quality. Thanks for watching.

[@billnj4923]

Hello did you ever consider a Osbourn jig?

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

No, I never heard of it until now. Thanks for watching.

[@russframe]

Great review - so impressed with your attention to detail. Incra’s response to your issues was also awesome. I don’t know how you stopped yourself from cursing when fitting that right hand aluminum track though :)

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

They sent out another track and the same thing. It flared out on the bottom and locked in the t slot. They seem to be made for the old style slots with no undercut. It's accurate. Thanks for watching.

[@jonq8714]

Would you buy it again?

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

No I Wouldn't. I have recent videos about replacing the Incra fence with a Kreg fence to make it cut wider and safer to use. Thanks for watching.

[@tedfritsch3340]

Looks as if that small part on the fence may have come from a different lot of material. Watching this at 3/30/21. I wonder if Incra has made some improvements. Just saw an add from Woodpeckers selling this one. $299.00. Would anyone know how well this would work on the Dewalt 6480? Or is it to big for it?

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

I wouldn't buy it again but that's my opinion after using. Thanks for watching.

[@BushImports]

I hope that works well for you, it is really frustrating getting things that don't work like they should .

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

Thanks. It looks like it will work good. I expected better quality from a high end brand like this. Thanks for watching.

[@janambrose4917]

Good review. I would guess their engineers and quality control are not as exacting in their standards as you are. If they had been, you would not have had to use a chisel to fix it. I'm looking forward to your next project. Winter's coming, yippee! Take care. thanks. :)

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

I was really surprised by the quality as this is a top of the line item. Made in the USA doesn't mean quality anymore. At least it works good. My wife has me lined up to redo the guest bath this winter so there will be a lot of new cabinets. She already bought the paint and flooring so I have no choice 😏. Thanks for watching.

[@casycasy5199]

great honest review.love that small square what make is it

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

It was from a Harbor freight set. You have to square them up after buying because they are way off from the store. Thanks for watching.

[@stevespencer5158]

Where did you purchase this and was that a sale price?

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

At Rockler using a 20% off coupon from one of their emails. I wouldn't have paid the list price after seeing it. Thanks for watching.

[@tommarcotte5313]

You have a left tilt table, does cutting a 45 with the blade tilted damage your sled. Wouldn't it be wiser to set up on the opposite side? I have been thinking of purchasing the sled and was hoping to see some cuts with the blade tilted. Thanks, Tom

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

I don't use it with the blade tilted. I use the Kreg gauge for that. I wanted zero clearance for different blades and dado thicknesses so I went this way. I can not recommend this after using it for a while. I definitely would not but it again.

[@EskGaming]

Finally I found an honest opinion. Thanks

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

I try to show accurately exactly what I received when buying a new tool. My subscribers are like friends and they deserve the truth. I have recently replaced that fence and hard to use stop and it works good now. Thanks for watching.

[@jedman322]

Great vid! , my friend thankfully purchased this before I did , the build quality on his was atrocious considering the price and reputation. I agree with your Chinese build quality reference , such a shame considering it was made in the US....times have changed for sure.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

It was not what I expected being my first Incra tool for their price point. I have another video about replacing that hard to use fence and stop with kreg parts that makes it easier and safer to use. Thanks for watching.

[@artbunin]

Thank you!

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

Thanks for watching.

[@matthewclemente420]

Thats always the way. you pay top dollar for everything and get screwed some times. your lucky you have a great mind for engineering to compensate .Great video. Hows the bandsaw working for you ? They still have not takin care of those issues and due to your great review i did not purchase that model . Keep the videos coming! Thanks

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

With this UPS damage was my worst concern and there was no shipping damage. I expected better quality from incra but at least the engineering has been done well and it works good. I guess as companies cut corners to raise profits this will be the norm. With the bandsaw the engineering was not properly implemented so there is no way to make changes and I am stuck with it. I see comments from others with similar issues so you were smart to look at other brands. I haven't used it much but its still working good. I do not use the brake because that seems to be why the pulley goes out of line and there is no way to realign it without buying a whole new lower wheel assembly now that the warranty is over. Thanks for watching.

[@ChrisHornberger]

Ok, I'm 2:55 in and screaming at the screen for you to write up what you found so far, pack it up, and send it back for a replacement. Don't go any further; if you don't like the quality and care put into the thing at this point, you're obligated to send it back and let that be known. If you're surprised that Incra would sell something like that, it's because anyone receiving it in unacceptable condition, just keeps unpacking and keeps accepting it. :(

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

I should have but didn't want to get stuck with return shipping. I later fixed it somewhat and made it safer with Kreg parts in another video. First and last Incra purchase for me. Thanks for watching.

[@robertavery8897]

Thanks ... nice video ...

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

There is a newer video about replacing the incra fence and stop with kreg components that make it safer and easier to use for me. Thanks for watching.

[@screaming1967]

Great review

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

Thanks. I have some update videos with changes to make it easier to use and safer if you have one. Thanks for watching.

[@ironspider5972]

Can confirm that the "adjustable" aluminum track rail is still garbage. I have a SawStop PCS and could not get the "mechanism" to expand to remove the side to side play/slop. The included allen wrench actually snapped in half while trying to do it (ouch). At this price point, they should have just replaced the aluminum rail with a second of the rails you use on the other side (which are not a picnic to adjust either--but at least they eventually work and allow you to remove the side to side play [and have more contact points than the aluminum rail]). In the end, I guess it doesn't matter too much, since the aluminum rail and the MDF cutoff that sits on top of it don't do anything other than support cutoffs but my advice to someone watching this as a tutorial is when you get to the part where you cut off the section of MDF attached to the aluminum rail, make sure you put plenty of downward pressure on that piece as you push it through the saw so it doesn't come back into the blade at an angle and bite out a piece of the end of the MDF. The anodizing on my stop lock was also messed up (and the sticker was chewed up) and the protractor base had punched through and into the cardboard box with the miter guide rail.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

I have a video where I tossed the Incra extrusions and went with a Kreg extrusion and stops. Made it safer and easier to use. Incra has really gone downhill. I find things shipped from China in much better shape and higher quality these days. Thanks for watching.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XXoKqjlt5sors

[@ironspider5972]

I think another issue I discovered with the 5000 that bothers me is that while they say it’s completely reversible for the right-side setup, the micro adjust screw on the stop lock is *only threaded on the left hand side* so you can’t swap the micro-adjust screw to the right side! So it makes it even harder to see where you are on the measuring tape. I watched your video about replacing it with the Kreg extrusion-but I don’t own the Kreg miter device-do you know if the flip down stops for Kreg can be purchased individually?

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

Yes, Kreg sells the stops. I only use it at 90 degrees now so it really was a waste of money. Should have just built one.

[@dondavis769]

Try th JessEm miter gage it’s wonderful and way better than an Olsen

[@dondavis769]

Meant Osbourne

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

I haven't been impressed with it after using it a while. Wound up replacing the bulky extrusions and stop with Kreg parts. Thanks for watching.

[@metro6028]

where is this made?

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

Says made in the USA on the box. Thanks for watching.

[@du1531]

It's frustrating when you pay a premium and you get low quality thanks for your review I just change my mind

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

It is accurate once you get it setup. Incra replaced the problem parts but in the end I wound up replacing the whole fence assembly with a kreg extrusion that works best for me and makes it safer to use. The miter gauge indexing works very good. Thanks for watching.

[@PeanutsDadForever]

Clear as usual. Thanks 🇦🇺👴🏻

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

Thanks for watching.

[@harrypowers9412]

I purchased an Incra Miter 5000 sled and was somewhat disappointed. It requires too much assembly to be able to use the product. I’ve had mine for a month and still haven’t gotten it assembled yet. If I had known how much hassle it would be, I wouldn’t have bought it. I’m a woodworker, not a machine tool guy. Unless you’re a mechanic, I don’t advise buying one out these.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

This really was a waste of money for me. Just so clunky and hard to use. I replaced the incra extrusions with kreg stuff eventually. Thanks for watching.

[@HBSuccess]

Isn’t Incra now made in China?

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

No, it says made in the USA. plus it is all inch hardware. Thanks for watching.

[@RobertMSmith1]

Your confused... you might need to up your meds . WE are talking Incra... Not HF junk

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

I have purchased Harbor freight items with better quality then this sled.

[@dondavis769]

It is made in China🤨

[@spencerbass7142]

Good video.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

Thanks. I did some updates in another video to make it more user friendly and safer. Thanks for watching.

[@alexgilmore6133]

You need to remove the mitre gauge itself and move it back and you’ll actually have a 23” cut capacity.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

There is only one set of holes. I did better. Junked that incra extrusion and replaced it with s kreg extrusion to make it safer, cut wider and easier to use. Thanks for watching.

[@tranthiduyen615]

Anh thật tuyệt vời.anh khéo tay quá

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

Thanks for watching.

[@larry527az3]

Incra should be ashamed of this video, when I buy an Incra I expect to assemble it and use it without having to tweak things. I would expect to modify an import product, but not something from Incra. I'm going to think long and hard before buying another Incra product now. Thanks for sharing this, great video!

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

This was my first incra product and I expected better quality and finish. It works good now but for the price point I expected better. I was definitely surprised by all the unsupported cutting area if you try to cut the 23 inches they advertise. I am confused why none of the reviews I watched stated that. Thanks for watching.

[@johnfithian-franks8276]

You have more perchance than me, “Inca” are not cheap and for the money you should be able to expect quality workmanship that just isn’t there? I know they are minor problems but they should be sorted out before you got the item. Too many people just accept faulty equipment and firms are taking advantage of that.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

I always thought Incra was supposed to be top of the line. I think profit is more important to them than quality now. I did an update where I replaced all the clumsy incra fence with a simpler kreg extrusion that makes it safer and easier to use. Thanks for watching.

[@slhasebroock]

Wow, some pretty sloppy workmanship from a company that touts it accuracy. Interesting. Don't have any INCRA except for rulers. Great review, thank you! I have a Dubby sled and love it.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

I was expecting better. Never heard of a Dubby sled, will have to check them out. Thanks for watching.

[@charlesfitzgerald9461]

Good review looks like poor workmanship on the part of the manufacturer . Was it made in China?

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

It's made in the USA. I expected better for the price. Thanks for watching.

[@FlyinTrapezious]

Great review sir . Thank you. LISTEN UP INCRA , YOU CAN BE DAMN SURE THAT I WILL NOT PURCHASE ANY OF YOUR PRODUCTS UNTIL YOU CORRECT THE DISCREPANCIES THAT THIS GENTLEMAN HAS POINTED OUT. I HOPE THAT ANYONE THAT IS READING THIS EXPRESSES THEIR OPINION ON THIS MATTER. FOR WHAT IS BEING CHARGED FOR THESE ITEMS THERE SHOULD BE ZERO DEFECTS .

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

It's definitely something I wouldn't buy again. Thanks for watching.

[@FlyinTrapezious]

@@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023 I was going to buy the Incra fence for my tablesaw but after seeing your review I have changed my mind.

[@thomasharder9582]

The quality is no better than the Chinese stuff you've had? You just said that this rig is a big upgrade from the Kreg...right? By the way, on that hold down, I found if you pushed the round rotating "bearing" from the other side it would have pushed right in. I assumed the one side was machined slightly smaller to retain it from sliding out. I've bought many Incra products and they are really unsurpassed in the quality of their engineering and, especially, their execution by comparison to any other market offerings. Good thing you'll be able to "get by"...really?

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

I have had many items from China and Taiwan with better quality lately. Finally dumped the clumsy incra fence and stop in another video and replaced it with a Kreg extrusion and stop that makes it safer and easier to use along with letting me cut 24 inches. The gauge indexing is the good part. I definitely would not buy it or other incra tools again after this let down. Thanks for watching.

[@valentinsaenz1252]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

Thanks for watching.

[@zaneh6224]

Wow pretty ordinary manufacturing problems with your new toy, I have used Incra stuff for a long time and the quality it faultless, these sled's cost nearly $800 in Australia I would be pissed off if I spent that sort of money and it had shitty manufacturing problems, are these made in China now ?

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

Not made in China. I was told things like that happen to keep the price affordable 🤔. I am guessing it's all about corporate profits over quality.

[@philadams493]

sigh qc problems don't motivate me to buy. especially at $350-$400 price point

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

I have another video switching out the incra extrusions with kreg extrusions to make it safer and easier for me to use. Thanks for watching.

[@philadams493]

@@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023 ok ill look it up. as a person that owned a small injection molding company 11 machines my costumers would warn me then fire me if this poor qc kept up, as i look at it on amazon, it was a common gripe of the product,,, qc manger can i see you in my office please

[@themightygoose1]

Good video... And everything. LOL.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

I did a follow up how a kreg extrusion and stop make this safer and easier to use for me. Thanks for watching.

[@iliakurktchiev8370]

adjust your creg jig slider :)

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

It is can't slide it if they are any tighter. The aluminum bar is very flexible. Thanks for watching.

[@georges8348]

I really dislike having to re-manufacture parts on anything I buy. But this is something that happens so often that I'm getting used to it. I usually end up lapping faces against a known flat face with wet/dry glued to it in an attempt to true up parts. *** I put a 5000 together 15 years ago and had none of the problems you experienced during your assembly. I find Incra's lack of attention to quality control today to be disturbing . I don't recall how my stop came packaged but the fact that yours wasn't is disturbing (I'm going to use that word a lot). They couldn't even do something as simple as blister packing the fence stop and then taping that down or taping the stop to a small piece of cardboard and then blister packing that and taping that down. I worked in all facets of shipping and receiving for 25 years and if I know anything it's this; if it can move it will move. *** Once properly assembled the Incra jigs can split the wooden atom in half and that I really like. *** I have never enjoyed tightening the miter bar expanders as you know they the Allen bolts take a huge amount of pressure to expand the UHMW plastic ring. But I never do it with the ring within the miter slot. I pull out the ring and expand it and then try sliding it into the slot. *** I would suggest that you lap the edges of the Grizzly miter slot to remove any slight roughness or mill marks because if you don't you will be machining UHMW plastic off the rings rather quickly. (I'm sure you can come up with a method to do that if it needs doing.) *** To get the most out of any Incra you have to have previously trued the left side miter slot to the arbor assembly to make it perfectly parallel. This is a process that can be done many different ways. I use a dial indicator when I need to do it. *** When I need to check the accuracy coming off an Incra jig I rip an inch off a wide panel, flip that ripped edge over to the stop, rip a hair off the opposite edge, reset the stop to rip an inch off the panel and measure the ends of the ripped piece with digital calipers. I like digital devices for most machinery work as my eyes seem to be different from day to day but the numbers stay the same. *** It was interesting to see just how wonky the Kreg was in use. I never liked it either. G.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

Thanks for the advice. Now that it's together I will do some fine tuning. The slot is actually ground very nicely and doesn't look like it will be a problem. I trued when I was having initial problems with the kreg gauge so that is taken care of. I am going to shum back the extension some and it's basically ready to go. It is my first Incra item and I expected a better out of box experience. It really works nice so I can't complain. This is a much better solution then the Kreg but for short cuts the Kreg is much easier to throw on the saw. Thanks for watching.

[@MacTech007]

I have several INCRA items. I called them once about lack of quality on a few of the Incra items I purchased. I told the guy that if they let their quality go downhill, their jobs will likely end up going to China.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

I had no idea that their quality dropped. All the videos about this were very old and none showed any issues. Must be a recent thing. Thanks for watching.

[@m3rdpwr]

This is both quite surprising, and quite disappointing. I would have expected better from Incra. I want to buy one of their products as well, but that makes me second-guess it.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

I expected better quality. Luckily it's mostly cosmetic and the sled works good. That aluminium Guide on the right is really garbage for a t track. It expands the bottom but not the top so you can't just pick that side off. I think I will skip on the other items also. Thanks for watching.

[@1969ironmike]

you really struggled with this install compared to most of these videos. you seem unhappy with it just send it back!

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

I would have if the return shipping wasn't so expensive. I dumped all those clunky Kreg extrusions and wound uo replacing them with Kreg parts to make it safer and easier to use.

[@imanutnur7]

I would have sent it back if I was as unhappy with it as you are.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

When I buy something for my channel I don't send it back if it's not completely broken or doesn't function. Good or bad I show how items work and last over time. I have another video showing how I was able to make it easier to use and safer with A kreg extrusion and stops. Thanks for watching.

[@imanutnur7]

@@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023 I bought the Incra 1000 SE earlier and it looks great. I am worried about my finger as I cut a lot of small pieces mainly at angles so I bought the sled today.

[@alanrichardson7244]

You bought yours on sale because it was a reject second.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

That's what they all seem to be. Thanks for watching.

[@fortagband8262]

Your blade being up while working on the right side is scaring me.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

Why? Hands aren't even close. Thanks for watching

[@fortagband8262]

If you slipped with that allen key and the force you were using I see you punching that blade.

[@tallyman15]

Send it back. Call Incra

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

It works good so it's all just cosmetics. Incra left a comment they would replace parts if I want take the time to send them pictures of what I showed in the video but nothing is really broken so I'll live with it now that it's all assembled and aligned. . Thanks for watching.

[@johnfithian-franks8276]

I have seen a lot of Incra items and I have always been very impressed with them, I would be sending that back and also sending a snotty letter to Incra quality section (if they still have one) One comment said that these are now made in China, if so that would probably account for the loss of quality. I know everyone is trying to get costs down but Incra trade on the back of quality and if they lose that they will be in big trouble, it is one thing they cannot afford to lose. If enough people return items that are not up to the top quality then Incra will have to take note, the problem is that people are getting used to poor quality and no longer complain.

[@paullarnce2167]

When I was a young man Incra was considered the top of the line in accuracy. Too bad they have gone the route of corporate greed. I would have boxed it up and demanded a refund.

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

It definitely is accurate but I was disappointed by the quality. They sent out a replacement aluminum Guide, the 2 damaged scales and red stop parts. I did a update on a recent video. They definitely don't take pride in what they ship out anymore. At least it worksworks good. Thanks for watching.

[@Z-add]

If not incra then who?