Incredible Bad Weather NFL Game Highlights(1975 And 1974)

[@iamrichrocker]

heros from my past..and agree with Max..better football played back then..so many Hall of Famers in these games..wish i had a time machine..thx

[@markgardner9460]

Wish I had a time machine, too! I love this era. Thank you for watching and commenting!

[@3243_]

Yeah, a time machine and a video recorder for all of these games!

[@wutm8]

The best time to be alive as far as sports go wàs 80s-90s

[@markgardner9460]

I vote for the '70's - so many classic game names and players. '80's were great, too.

[@brötzmannsax]

@@markgardner9460 Since it seems like I'm senior member, I vote for the 60's!

[@MaxAmerica.Freedom]

BIG THANKS. Real Football the way it should be played. I used to love playing in bad weather myself as a kid though high school, college. with pads and without.

[@markgardner9460]

Thank you! Artificial turf, even the stuff used today, should not be used, in my opinion. Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@primateproductions126]

I agree… REAL football.. todays game is so sterile with these fake fields. Yes, there was astroturf back then. But there was so much more natural grass fields. To many luxury Airport hangar-like stadiums today

[@markgardner9460]

plus they don't allow fan banners and some places don't allow tailgating. Ya gotta give the fans what they want....and sometimes need (ie. beer and brats that won't cost an arm and a leg inside the stadium)

[@brötzmannsax]

@@primateproductions126 Today's football is no longer a real competitive sport, it is controlled by TV and legal betting which you can easily look into and can't be trusted any longer.

[@MaxAmerica.Freedom]

@@markgardner9460 Amen

[@jammininthepast]

Always loved the weather games. Memories of watching the games on a color console t.v. with my dad sipping hot Dr. Pepper or hot chocolate. I love this era, so many great players. A Colorados own Mike Borillo sighting. Thanks appreciated.

[@markgardner9460]

It's amazing that Mike Boryla made the '75 Pro Bowl team. I remember watching him throw 2 TD's in the final minutes to lead the NFC to victory.

[@stevenzimmerman4057]

@@markgardner9460 Mike Boryla may have been the worst quarterback ever to play in a Pro Bowl but he definitely made the most of it...

[@jammininthepast]

@@markgardner9460 my bad on spelling....

[@markgardner9460]

@@jammininthepast no biggie!

[@markgardner9460]

@@stevenzimmerman4057 I think he lost the starting gig to Gabriel, so how he made the Pro Bowl game is beyond me.

[@stevemccutcheon8803]

Great films. Really enjoy them. Reminds me how great those times were

[@markgardner9460]

Thank you, I appreciate that, Steve.

[@Boomhower89]

I miss these games. Wet muddy games with baseball field layer out in the stadium. Or even better snow covered fields. One of the things that made football standout was it was an everyweather game. I understand calling for lightning kind of. I mean typically the ball players run in yet they leave the fans who are sitting in metal stands in the weather at Gods mercy.

[@markgardner9460]

Yeah, what about the fans, man? You know, the people who pay the outrageous ticket prices. What about their safety?

[@RobertBrown-vf8yd]

That was a lot of fun! It was cool to see players I haven’t thought about in a long time! Thanks for another great video!

[@markgardner9460]

You're welcome, Robert! I appreciate your comments.

[@slappy1956]

I was at the Eagles-Giants game at the Yale Bowl. One of the Giants DB's Pete Athas dove for a tackle and the water went over his helmet like he was diving into a pool.

[@markgardner9460]

That's awesome. Thanks for sharing those memories!

[@thomasgallagher7092]

The footage you obtain for your videos are phenomenal

[@jstube36]

There was one historic bad-weather game in 1975. In Buffalo. The Vikings destroy the Bills 35-13. Most importantly Fran Tarkenton passed Johnny Unitas on the all-time TD Pass record. And before being hit in the eye with a snowball, Chuck Foreman totaled 172 all purpose yards and scored 4 touchdowns. And in perfect Foreman style-2 Rush TD's, 2 PassTD's. SKOL

[@markgardner9460]

That was a great game. I remember watching that live on tv.

[@brötzmannsax]

I remember that game on TV big snowstorm on the last day of the season I believe.

[@markgardner9460]

I remember it well. My relatives wanted to turn the tv off cuz the Vikes had the game in the bag, but I wanted to see if Foreman would beat O.J. for the touchdown leadership in the NFL......so the tv stayed on.

[@jstube36]

@@markgardner9460 It was an interesting game for us. We have family in Buffalo, while we are in Burnsville for the Vikings. OJ was so huge, even my brothers had posters of the Juice. One thing to think about regarding Chuck Foreman. He and Gale Sayers has virtually the same length career. Both cut short by bad injuries. Sayers is in the HOF. While Chuck had better stats and is not in the HOF.

[@markgardner9460]

@@jstube36 and Sayers got into the HOF in his first year of eligibility. Playing for a major market helped along with a catchy nickname "The Kansas Comet", a 6 TD game and a movie, Brian's Song, in which he was prominately associated with all were factors in him getting in as the youngest player of all time.

[@LizzyL2024]

Honestly, your knowledge of the history of football is so evident in this video. What a great page this is!

[@markgardner9460]

Thank you, Lynne; I really appreciate that! Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@stevenzimmerman4057]

I agree, Lynne...he does a great job!

[@stevenzimmerman4057]

The security guard signaling Chuck Foreman safe is hilarious 😂

[@stevenzimmerman4057]

Do you know that Alan Autry who played in the TV series " In the Heat of the Night" went by the name of Carlos Brown and quarterbacked for the Packers for a few games in 1976?

[@markgardner9460]

@@stevenzimmerman4057 there is a short youtube video of that guy. He was interviewed in his house - he was quite a guy - great sense of humor

[@brötzmannsax]

Another great production, love all those splash audio bits and music, nice touch with the dancing, some of those old half times with marching bands went out of sight. How about Chuck Foreman getting drenched @2:45 and that sideline security calling him safe, ha! Every time I see Giants highlights from the Yale Bowl I was glad I was not attending those years, you think they would have covered Charlie Young eventually, ha.

[@markgardner9460]

Charley Young's career started off HOT, but then cooled cobsiderably when he went west in the Jaworski trade. He didn't get targeted nearly at all with the Rams being a running team and I think he lost interest because Terry Nelson ended up taking his starting spot later on.

[@michaelhemphill8575]

"Along with parking cars.. around the perimeter..of the inner field..to fans hanging loosely.. around both end zones..able to interact with players when they score..those occurrences.. became extinct.. in today's.." NFL".." but I love to see it in the retro clips"!!!

[@jodypaluch3933]

Amazing bad weather games! Keep up your good work!

[@markgardner9460]

Thank you, Jody! I appreciate it.

[@drbonesshow1]

BTW: There is a bad weather football throwing technique, which I introduced to a football writer for ESPN called Power-Pronation - where the wrist is supinated prior to pronation. Although the technique is good under all weather conditions - if one picks up and holds the ball using supination (palm-up) rather then turning the ball palm-down the chance for the fumble of a slippery ball is reduced. Strange perhaps, but also simple.

[@markgardner9460]

It's elementary, my dear Watson! Thank you for the comments, as always, Professor!

[@drbonesshow1]

@@markgardner9460 Or as The Professor might say: "It's elementary dear Watney! Their playing at home! We've come to the wrong football game!"

[@redsolocup727]

Another great video! Thank you!

[@markgardner9460]

Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you!

[@brianarbenz1329]

Thanks for showing me the Show Me teams, the Chiefs vs. Cardinals.

[@markgardner9460]

You got it! My pleasure!

[@tommythomason6187]

Thanks for the mud, lol. That Yale Bowl was really a mess. Only thing you could see out there were the sparkle green helmets the Eagles wore that year.

[@markgardner9460]

Yeah, the tv announcers must have had a heckuva time figuring out who the players were cuz their numbers were caked with mud.

[@tomservo56954]

​@@markgardner9460All that matters is 22 studs getting down and dirty...

[@markgardner9460]

separates the men from the boys - how much do ya wanna it?

[@dr.migilitoloveless2385]

I liked those old Bengals helmets. Not so overly flashy like the later tiger striped models.

[@markgardner9460]

I'm with ya!!!

[@kevinfoley8105]

Another bulls eye good Sir! Thank you for these priceless trips back to when football was great. Could you please tell me the name of the song that starts at 5:40? I would love to download that to my playlist, thank you!

[@markgardner9460]

Thanks, Kevin! It's called "Fun Happy Upbeat" - strange, but that's the song title.

[@chrisbuckingham2169]

When football was football. Grass mud no injuries!

[@markgardner9460]

Great point - nobody was getting their knees blown out on non-contact plays like today.

[@michaelhemphill8575]

"Gotta love an Inclement Weather.."Football Game"!!

[@markgardner9460]

Fun for us, but not so much for the announcers trying to figure out who's who

[@michaelhemphill8575]

@@markgardner9460 "I do Concur.." Good Point"!!

[@jimkon5767]

Hank Stram, "Keep matriculating down the field boys!" ... Back in the day you could set bonfires in the stands of Rich and Shea Stadium. Good stuff Mark ...

[@markgardner9460]

I've heard that about the bonfires. Absolutely crazy!! Thank you, Jim! I appreciate you checkin' out all of my videos!

[@tomservo56954]

In public?

[@raymondcote2913]

Best time to watch football.

[@markgardner9460]

can't do nothin' else outside if your local favorite team is playing at home, so why not? And even if they're not...

[@Ohionortheast]

This is how I remember and love the nfl the weather was that extra element don’t watch anymore its so robotic these days

[@markgardner9460]

You got that right, John. Thank you for watching and commenting!

[@denisceballos9745]

Shea, RFK, and Memorial (amongst others) had that natural grass plus dirt infield which quickly turned to mud in inclement weather. The fans were also very close to the field of play. Notice the NY fans jumping into the end zone when a Jets player scored. Crazy times.

[@markgardner9460]

I'm glad that you noted that about the Jets fans roaming into the end zone after Barkum's TD (I think it was his). Security on break? Imagine that happening today?

[@higgy04]

I wished that existed in Madden games as a throwback feature.

[@markgardner9460]

Do they have fan banners? Probably not - someone may get offended

[@denisceballos9745]

@@markgardner9460 I think it was Shea also where fans would douse opposing players with beer in the end zone.

[@markgardner9460]

I know they doused RB Larry Brown with beer at Yankee Stadium.

[@denisceballos9745]

Cool stat on Marvin Cobb (24) - scoring on a 52 yard int. return on his first NFL play. And - it won the game for Cincinnati. The Bengals and Raiders played some doozies in those days.

[@markgardner9460]

The Raiders DB's would bully Cinci's receivers, but their defensive line was good enough to put considerable pressure on Stabler...which wasn't easy to do.

[@stevenzimmerman4057]

@@markgardner9460 Stabler was a very clutch quarterback,but after 78 he lost it pretty quickly,and just 5 years after winning Super Bowl XI he was pretty much a pedestrian quarterback ( I liked him, just expressing my opinion!)

[@denisceballos9745]

@@markgardner9460 Yeah, that one sack in the video looks like a 25 yard loss for Kenny who was trying to outrun the Bengals D linemen. Plus he was rushed into 4 interceptions.

[@markgardner9460]

I totally agree with you. Howard Cosell thought that his late night carousing caught up with him and maybe it did......along with age

[@denisceballos9745]

@@markgardner9460 True. 😄 Ol’ Howard Cosell was right. Kenny was a great QB and a tough competitor, but, boy, could he have some bad games!

[@kjkuta1]

I like seeing anything from 74-75.... A saner time.

[@markgardner9460]

That's the full truth

[@SPTO]

Anyone who doesn't like watching bad weather games is a fool LOL j/k Even bad weather games had character back then. Unfortunately we're never going to see mud caked players or weather beaten fields like that again as most of the fields nowadays are artificial turf and they take care of the fields too much with tarp and such. At least snow games still have the character from back in the day. The last 10-15 years have seen some pretty good ones.

[@markgardner9460]

Good stuff! Thank you for watching and commenting.

[@raylopez99]

I notice that in pro soccer games (I've only been to one, the DC United crew sucks this year btw) the home team, if it's behind, will, at halftime, wet the field. I Bing'd it and found this is done often against the wishes of the visiting team to favor the home team, since a slippery turf makes for less injuries and favors the defense, allowing the underdog a better chance to win. Same here perhaps? More upsets by the underdog? As they say in science, "further research is needed" But @6:30 our host provides a clue, that there were more turnovers which would seemingly favor the less talented team.

[@markgardner9460]

I think you're on to something, Ray! I'd buy what you're selling.

[@zachsmith3376]

We would wake up super early in winter in rural Alabama to play on a frost field.

[@markgardner9460]

I bet that made for some slippin' 'n slidin', eh?

[@zachsmith3376]

@@markgardner9460 For a while we'd have a blast but with the onset of proper daylight our field would melt.

[@tomservo56954]

​@@zachsmith3376Then the fun really started...

[@markdaugherty6318]

Sweetness Rookie game wow 🏈

[@markgardner9460]

To me, Walter is in a league of his own. Thank you for watching!

[@brötzmannsax]

I believe that post pattern from Ken Anderson to Charlie Joiner @7:00 deserves an audio splash sound effect.

[@markgardner9460]

It seems as though a deserved splash slipped through the proverbial crack! Sorry about that.

[@brötzmannsax]

@@markgardner9460 You started strong but faded in the stretch, ha!

[@markgardner9460]

That will not be the case on this next video set to be released tomorrow, my friend. "Extras" abound from beginning to end with some awesome old, old school NFL footage as a bonus!

[@RoyPage1970]

​@@markgardner9460the Bengals never should have gotten rid of Charlie Joyner for a 34-year-old coy Bacon

[@colorman4490]

All good but dude what about the ultimate mud/slush bowl between the 49ers and Browns in Cleveland 1974?

[@markgardner9460]

Were clips of that game not included? It must have been from the week of the '74 season that I had mis-placed, but recently located. My bad.

[@aboriginalbrotha9947]

You forgot that famous 1974 game between the Browns and Niners.

[@markgardner9460]

I will have to look into that - thanks

[@cfoster81]

"Ken Brown, number MUD in your program"- Tom Brookshier. Also, Ken Brown scored the only touchdown in that game and Browns won 7-0 over San Francisco.

[@markgardner9460]

@@cfoster81 That's a classic line!

[@michaelleroy9281]

The Browns won 7-0

[@jamesmorrison185]

nice

[@markgardner9460]

I'm glad you liked it - thanks for watching

[@jamesmorrison185]

@@markgardner9460 I remember watching that eagles Giants game as a kid , one of the players in that game slid out of bounds in doing so took mud and fling it up into another players face mask the announcer made a comment , these teams do not like each other , over the years I have went to a coupe of eagles and giants game , the fans and the fights in the stands and the parking lots are unreal they used to have a magistrate[Judge] in the stadium No other NFL stadium had that , rivalry , people talk about the Bears vs Packers , Chief vs Raiders they have never went there NY Phila .

[@markgardner9460]

@@jamesmorrison185 You're right - that's a tough rivalry that goes back a long ways. I remember hearing how Tom Brooksheier messed up Pat Summerall's face during a game between the Eagles and the Giants in the '50's

[@The53211]

I can’t help the OCD in me sorry bro but the 1:09 is not Milwaukee , that game was played in Green Bay . Thanks for the great content man….

[@markgardner9460]

Yep, my error. Should have double checked. Thank you for bringing that up!

[@The53211]

@@markgardner9460 You’re welcome and again really appreciate you’re hard work on this videos

[@markgardner9460]

They are labors of love, really. They take a lot of time and energy, but I enjoy putting them together so much. I'm glad that you enjoy them!

[@brötzmannsax]

Remember when their was a 14 game season and Green Bay had to play 2 games in Milwaukee each season, what years did that last?

[@markgardner9460]

@@brötzmannsax '94

[@irishledden4924]

I remember "wrong way" Jim Marshall.

[@markgardner9460]

Quite the nickname - not one to be proud of, but he was a great player and a heckuva nice guy

[@KennethFord-y7c]

The way it should be!!!!!!!!!

[@markgardner9460]

The playing conditions are too perfect now.

[@ErnestTeeBass]

I keep looking for the John 3:16 rainbow wig guy.

[@markgardner9460]

I think he was late '70's. West coast dude, right?

[@ErnestTeeBass]

@@markgardner9460 yes, and I remember a guy banging drums in Oakland. I think Oakland. "Crazy George" I believe.

[@markgardner9460]

@@ErnestTeeBass I think Crazy George started with the Chiefs although I think he also worked for the Oilers and the Vikings...probably the Raiders, too.

[@brötzmannsax]

Remember him, he was a pain in the ass, mostly at baseball games behind home plate distracting the pitcher.

[@brötzmannsax]

@@ErnestTeeBass Yes, he is well documented, you forget about the teams unofficial mascots.

[@SeanMcCauley-f5u]

That's Football 🏈,I coached in Guam in Monsoons

[@markgardner9460]

Very cool - I bet it was hot, too, eh?

[@michaelleroy9281]

There's on really bad weather game I remember, December 1, 1974 the Browns beat the 49 ers only by 7-0

[@vonschleppin]

I was only 8 when these guys played but as I grew older I resented the changes in football over the years somehow knowing it would abandon the roots that made it great. And I was right. The first thing to go was the weather. Kingdomes, Astrodomes and that awful Balloondome in MN. Half the fun was watching teams take advantage of their home field weather. Now, it’s all the same. Just so they can sell more plastic foam hats. Wow. The last thing the NFL killed was spontaneity. Never mind what you just saw with your own eyes, the NFL replay booth will let you know in 3-5 minutes if the play will stand. Absolutely ridiculous.

[@markgardner9460]

You said it all. I'm with you on all counts. Thank you for watching and commenting!

[@brötzmannsax]

Shea Stadium field looked bad on a good day, the Buffalo-Jets game is one of the worst fields I've seen the Jets play on there.

[@markgardner9460]

A lot of dusty games at Shea with that baseball infield, too. Tough place for a QB to play

[@brötzmannsax]

@@markgardner9460 Like you mentioned in that Vikings end zone with the coaching block in the end zone plus the unleveled pitcher's mound, most stadiums covered up the diamond only so much but never completely it seemed.

[@brötzmannsax]

@@markgardner9460 I'd imagine that field didn't do many favors for Joe's knees, he probably favored road games, I wonder if he ever spoke about that.

[@markgardner9460]

home plate at Oakland's digs was in an end zone - just head-shaking stuff

[@markgardner9460]

I'm guessing that he didn't, as I didn't view him as a guy who did much complaining

[@warrenwills3251]

Next time buy the tape with the audio track

[@tomservo56954]

18:00 On the afterlife bucket list Playing linebacker in a muddy game and running back a touchdown (A.J. Duhe is the gold standard because at kickoff his uniform was white...oh, and it helped his team get to the Super Bowl as well)

[@markgardner9460]

Du-way..............very cool last name and a very good player, too!!

[@tomservo56954]

@markgardner9460 In the Madden Hall of Fame...of course with the filthy #77 jersey on display

[@markgardner9460]

That '77 Dolphins draft was really good - Duhe at #1, Baumhower at #2 and Leroy Harris at #5.

[@tomservo56954]

@@markgardner9460 Fitting for the player rebellious enough to be part of the Killer B's without a B in his name. Otherwise, I'll take your word on it. I don't pretend to know much about football--I was in high school before I learned how the whole "downs" thing worked.

[@markgardner9460]

@@tomservo56954 all one needs to know is whether or not they enjoy watching the product on the field of play, in my opinion

[@jamiesonmathias7859]

The only thing bad about the football back then with these people trying to win the oldest man trophy. Was that from players having to walk across country to next road game up hill both ways in 39 feet of snow & temps as low as -78 + wind chill, degrees & as hot as 159 degrees + humidity. So players where slow & tired by time of game !

[@markgardner9460]

It's possible. One thing is for certain, the old timers didn't get substituted for in 3rd and longs or goal line situations. The rosters were 30%+ smaller than today's bloated rosters.

[@brötzmannsax]

Those true old warriors played 60 minutes thru all adverse conditions plus injuries, and there was no specialists on certain downs, whoever survived these epic battles won well deserved.

[@brötzmannsax]

@@markgardner9460 He might be referring to those incredible stats you gave on the Vikings defense, amazing considering their ages.

[@markgardner9460]

granted, they did have the NFL's easiest schedule in '75, but still.......ya gotta be good to rank #1

[@jamesmooney8933]

The only football game to be played and called because of a severe rain storm, and never to be played again? Answer: The 1976 College All Stars Game The College All Stars against the Super Bowl Champion Pittsburgh Steelers. That was called, and never played again.

[@markgardner9460]

I watched that on live tv and was greatly disappointed. Roger Staubach sustained a concussion in one of those games. Thank you for the comments!

[@paulmicheldenverco1]

Bud Grant was never a workaholic and he was still successful. That asks if the 16-20 hr day is needed and is it counterproductive?

[@markgardner9460]

Bud had a great working situation - he had a future Hall of Fame QB at the helm who needed minimal, if any, assistance and a super defense. The Vikings let Fran do his thing and the defense do theirs and that allowed Bud to fish and hunt whenever he wanted.

[@eddiekulp1241]

Fields were not maintained then like now

[@markgardner9460]

It was almost as if they didn't care in some of those stadiums!

[@tomservo56954]

​@@markgardner9460Thank.God...

[@HAL9000s3]

@5:40 Why is Joe Namath in the Hall of Fame? His career numbers are terrible.

[@markgardner9460]

5X Pro Bowl, Rookie of the Year, AFL Player of the Year, 3X passing yardage leader, 1st passer with 4,000 yards in a single season, main reason for the AFL setting stadium attendance records across the league due to his popularity and in conjuncture with the Super Bowl 3 victory, he is the main reason for the continued existence of the AFL and the eventual merging with the NFL. Without him, all of those AFL teams would most likely not be in the NFL today.

[@HAL9000s3]

@@markgardner9460 I see your point. But 62-63-4, 50.1 CMP % 170 TD/220 INT. Different game back then...I guess.

[@markgardner9460]

@@HAL9000s3 The main issue some have with Namath is his high number of inter eptions to td passes, but he played on bad teams after '69 and was forced to throw...and he threw long passes which have a greater chance of being intercepted. Thanks for following up with me!

[@HAL9000s3]

@@markgardner9460 Acknowledged. It was a much different game back then. Watching old games, announcers rarely mention CMP% and INTs at all. Against my own point, a team-focused evaluation of results is where it's at, and should be. Thanks, and get back to me if you like.

[@markgardner9460]

@@HAL9000s3 I think Buc Head Coach John McKay said it best - completion % doesn't mean anything...big splash plays are the difference makers in games...not dozens of 4 to 7 yard completions like in today's game.

[@jamiesonmathias7859]

44 thousand no shows yea yinz sure was tuffer back then ! Just goes to prove it's just online tuff guys trying to win the oldest man competition ! Not sure why they think being the oldest is such a cool thing ?

[@markgardner9460]

I'm not pickin' up what yer layin' down regarding "the oldest" thing.

[@brötzmannsax]

You picking on the players or the fans in Atlanta who freeze easy and had a bad team.

[@markgardner9460]

Atlanta didn't support their teams that well in the '70's in terms of attendance.

[@jameswilson7790]

@@markgardner9460 The 1974 Falcons scored only 111 points in 1974, the second lowest total since 1960.

[@markgardner9460]

@@jameswilson7790 Yeah, so they drafted QB Bartkowski #1 overall in '75 and eventually lead them to respectability. 111 points in a 14 game season...that's woeful

[@paulks2339]

A QB with number 21 ! I forgot about John Hadl , good memories.

[@markgardner9460]

What's weird about Hadl playing with the Packers in '74 is that he wore both #21 and #12 during the year for them.

[@lonnietoth5765]

Packer Running back Eric Torkelson # 26 is the brother of Peter Tork of the Monkee's .

[@markgardner9460]

That's right. Peter Tork's spelling of his birthname is different, however....Thorkelson.

[@stevenzimmerman4057]

I wasn't aware of that! Interesting.

[@stevenzimmerman4057]

Kim McQuilken Falcons quarterback shown vs the Vikings in 1975,was definitely not a NFL caliber quarterback! 4 career touchdown passes and 29 picks! I believe that the Falcons had a net total of 60 yards in the game!

[@billbill5326]

I never knew this information. Thanks!

[@markgardner9460]

@@stevenzimmerman4057 Wow, those are some crazy stats for that Falcons QB!

[@harryschnepp5907]

i think your teams are off a bit still enjoy

[@markgardner9460]

What do you mean "teams are off a bit"?

[@harryschnepp5907]

@@markgardner9460 14.40 not the Cowboys its the Eagles but still well put together

[@markgardner9460]

@@harryschnepp5907 Thank you, Harry.