Indian Chief Stock vs Stage 2 (hi-quality sound)

UPDATE! PVCX tuner purchased. See short video here!! • Indian Stage 2 FuelMot...
Warning: the second half of this video will be louder!!!
Here is a video of my Chief Dark Horse idling stock vs the Stage 2 cams and Freedom Exhaust (baffled).
Each comparison has 3 "scenes" utilizing a Zoom H4 Recorder.
Scene 1: Zoom at back in between the 2 pipes about a meter away. Note: I had to move it closer for the Stage 2 scene because the pressure coming out of those true duals was hitting the mic. I reduced the recording level to compensate, but that exhaust is louder for sure.
Scene 2: Recorder off to the side of the pipe exit, one meter away.
Scene 3: Walk-around.
Hope this high-quality recording helps someone who's in the market for new exhaust.

[@akhilg90]

the moment i heard the second one, a smile came automatically on my face ! thanks man for the video :)

[@jorgeperegrino9418]

X2 :)

[@GrEeCe_MnKy]

Indian motorcycles are the best motorcycles.

[@dynaworks8135]

Was**

[@quickvmax3364]

"Best" for what??

[@ashya.pashya]

@@quickvmax3364 stupid harley guys

[@Ww-dl7vr]

@@ashya.pashya his tag is vmax....?

[@locngo]

My man...the badassness level of this...

[@aboutmyfathersbusiness8324]

Those fenders are Bad A$%^. Glad Indian kept them.

[@Davz2SS]

Holy wow! What an amazing difference! Sounds great!

[@musicguitar]

Now that’s what I call a proper exhaust before and after video!

[@monkeyzeetube]

I like the sound and hope your neighbours must love you very much..

[@Msalazar6sicVI]

I was about to write you really need a tune but then I saw the link in the description. Sounds amazing!

[@grillingitup64]

SWEET bike and nice video! Thanks for sharing that sound with us.

[@Anton_G_604]

I can just have this on a loop for a few hours :) absolute badassery, I love both sounds

[@trailertrashtactics]

God damn it sounds good no matter what!

[@ntdfmaverick]

Looks and sounds awesome.

[@tryarunm]

That stage 2 Freedom is to DIE FOR. God bless you bro.

[@unsane]

Working on a set up to record while riding without the wind noise.

[@tryarunm]

Maybe you could even try an in-helmet mic.

[@unsane]

I"m an audio engineer for a living and I'm not keen on that method. I do have a passenger seat on it now and I will strap my audio recorder (used here) on it facing backwards. My body should block the wind. I'll give this a try soon...if it will ever stop raining here...

[@kylehawkins8967]

I am now convinced I need the Stage 2 cams.

[@unsane]

A lot more grunt below 3000 rpms as well.

[@jonnymac8925]

@@unsane Whats the specs on the cams? It sounds mean!

[@unsane]

@@jonnymac8925 I wish I knew. I've researched and found no documents. I stayed with Indian to keep my warranty, but Lloyds makes a couple of more aggressive grinds. Running a hi-flow intake, better exhaust and a tune will be required regardless. I now have a tune on the bike with my PVCX. Glad you liked it!

[@K-DREAM85]

Minchia che spettacolo di sound! 🤘

[@Zomfoo]

Great video. Very informative. Thank you.

[@robr1901]

I will be buying the same bike Soon And stage 2 upgrade will be one of the first things I do ( the bike sounds so badass in idle) Enjoy the bike 👍

[@toddlecher4097]

love the stance

[@ragimundvonwallat8961]

i dont even like full size cruiser ... but i like this one, the styling is numero uno in my book... even the engine look fantastic

[@amaankhan6721]

3:21 - 3:24 that kick was sooo tastyyyyy.... I was just on rewind mode.... 😍😍😍😍

[@edgarmoradorodriguez3656]

Beautifull bike man! Congrats!!!

[@hobbs9663]

😍💓 loving it

[@abdullahal-shimri3091]

Nice, but I prefer the quiet version. I ride to work (hospital). I'm saving money to buy this exact motorcycle. Thank you sir for this video and what a beautiful bike!

[@elbolillo2703]

Did you get the bike?

[@gsingh5617]

2.08 convinced.. An Indian for an Indian

[@unsane]

I have some friends in Mumbai who agree with you.

[@cjim3902]

Now what lie to tell my wife that I need these 😆

[@mr.fireblade6662]

The indian have a more muscular Exhaust note than the Harley

[@BigChiefWiggles]

Sounds and looks great!

[@blackscorpion111-]

awesome

[@teerakkiss]

Stage 2 sounds necessary now, thanks

[@unsane]

Don't forget the Dynojet PCVX tuner. The factory stage 2 tune has issues.

[@MadMexism]

Bad ass bike!’

[@byoder0420]

Bad ass

[@TheIndianscout]

Nice!!

[@RyoSaeba68]

Sounds so great with that idle rumble in stage 2....i hesitate so much to spare money for this cause here in France laws become very annoying about noise and mods on bike :-/ i think basanni's exhaust are quieter, or maybe TAB with middle size baffles. Thanks for that vids of quality

[@gsingh5617]

Low idle ☠️👌

[@dzod9574]

Do you have a fuel tuner? I have similar set up minus the true duals from freedom which I am considering buying. I have a power commander which was recommended at the dealer when I had cams installed. I find that the idle seems almost too low sometimes once the bike is warmed up. Almost sounds like it is going to stall sometimes.

[@unsane]

Dana Hansen not yet. I'm on the factory stage 2 reflash and I think it's a bit lean. When hot, she'll get a bit cranky when idling. A PC is next on my list. These tunes are constantly being updated I'm told. I have baffled Freedom pipes and love them. I tried the unbaffled. They were way too loud and sounded like metal garbage cans.

[@unsane]

I have now purchased a PV-CX. No need to install anything, just reflash the ECU through the diagnostic port. My bike idles better and the decel popping has been 95% eliminated. Plus a little more grunt below 2500rpm.

[@steveh4564]

Looks like a bike I see for sale on CL. Nice.

[@samuelfitzsimmons8907]

These are a lot better then Harleys, Believe me.

[@romualdbleriot5499]

Hi i’m french, i would like to know what is the brand of this exhaust pipe ? Because the sound is wonderfull ! Thank you

[@unsane]

Romuald Bleriot Freedom Exhaust. These are the baffled versions.

[@balintfucsko5410]

Hello! 2: 02-3: 20mins sound very good! What is the exact name of the exhaust, I want one! Hello Bálint

[@123JumpingJacks]

Their seems to be a noticable metallic sound with stage 2

[@123JumpingJacks]

Correction...with stock

[@unsane]

It's just the tone of the stock exhaust. It's very quiet, but you get a little snap to it. The pipes do sound a bit clangy as well.

[@leocastillo3095]

La moto que me quita el sueño ahora solo tengo la honda shadow pero un día voy a tener una de esa con Dios por delante

[@balintfucsko5410]

I would like to ask what the black exhaust, (FP), (TR) and (WPS) numbers are based on which I can choose from the catalog. Hi: Balint

[@unsane]

I responded in the wrong place so I’ll respond here as well. The pipes are the 4 inch Liberty model and they only make one model of black true dual headers. Keep in mind that I’m running the stage 2 cams also.

[@rj504]

Horse running sound in movies

[@ALEXdaG]

You gotta rev it more than that. Won’t hurt the engine! Especially doing it once just for a video. Make it count

[@ut1004bp]

What year is this Indian? I'm wondering about the tin-can rattle we are hearing most noticeable with Stage 2

[@unsane]

This is a 2017. The "rattle" is really just the mechanics of the internals. I was warned that the hi-flow air intake would allow you to hear that more. Also, this the factory Stage 2 tune. I added a PVCX shortly afterwards and it idles a bit better.

[@ut1004bp]

Good comparison, If I trade off my Stratoliner (super bike by the way) next bike would need electronic cruise, and if for a Chieftain, I'd want the bags, deep fenders, Stage 2 upgrade only, not sure about windshield or a fairing.

[@unsane]

@@ut1004bp I actually put a quick release windshield and soft bags on the bike. The windshield really helps at highway speeds but as it gets hotter, I'm using it less. But I do want to go longer distances, so next time, I will buy a fairing bike for sure.

[@NewarkDevil66]

What are your RPMs idling at? Sounds low, any stalls?

[@unsane]

She has a very lopey idle around 800rpm. On the factory Stage 2 tune (this video), she would stall on occasion when hitting the throttle too quickly. But I have since purchased a PVCX tuner from FuelMoto and uploaded their version of the Stage 2 tune and no more stalling since then. She still has that mean sounding big cam idle though! :)

[@NewarkDevil66]

Thanks for the reply. Are you still at 800rpms with the PCVX? Or did you increase the rpms. Mine are at 900-950. I will post a video in a few minutes. thanks for your reply. Nice bike.@@unsane

[@unsane]

Yes....still around 800 or so when warmed up. I need to make a longer video with the PVCX going since it's not installed on this one. @@NewarkDevil66

[@zutt3]

@@unsane I have same setup (with TAB zombies), but PVCX FM tune is set at 900-950 idle. Did FM send you the tune with the 800 idle or did you lower it? Your bike with them Freedom duals sounds nothing less than FANTASTIC!

[@unsane]

@@zutt3 This video was made before the tune, but I'm still around 800 rpm's though.

[@raylocke282]

Nothing sounds like my Harley potato , potato, potato. Amen

[@Fluffbutt]

What's that ticking sound at about 1:34? And... 2:40... the Freedoms... that level of sound is an instant defect notice here in Australia, sadly.. loss of rego + have to go over pits and pay for re-reg (about $600 + whatever the fine is now). Too loud.

[@jetstream454]

I take it you live on the east side?

[@Fluffbutt]

Of Oz?, Nah, Perth, west coast. But I do tour all over and know how much ankles the Qld cops are.

[@jetstream454]

@@Fluffbutt I've (and many others I know) never had a problem with cops + loud pipes, just too many bikes around, esp cruisers. Cruisers also aren't the most chased after, bikie gangs and cruisers maybe but otherwise...

[@Fluffbutt]

​@@jetstream454 I haven't had probs with WA police but the Qld ones... yeah... roadside noise tests are pretty common there, they'll pull you just 'cos you;re on two wheels.

[@jetstream454]

@@Fluffbutt I've heard too many stories about QLD Pol these days... 4WD crackdown (I mean it may be illegal but c'mon the fact they picked on that was a power show), eating while driving, etc etc. Live in QLD? F that, "Australia's final frontier" my exhaust pipes 😂😂

[@balintfucsko5410]

Hello! One more question! Where can I order? Welcome to Bálint Hungary

[@unsane]

Bálint Fucskó www.freedomperform.com These are the true duals system so I have different headers then stock. I ordered mine through my Indian dealer.

[@unsane]

Bálint Fucskó I don’t know the exact model number but you need the true dual headers and they only make one of those that’s black. The pipes are the 4 inch Liberty model.

[@manpreetangroya2568]

At this moment , I am not buying Harley anymore ...

[@Fathur1Rabbani]

More beautiful than a Woman.

[@Texas240]

2:02 Stage 2

[@hdkeeponlyonelove]

Nice　sound！

[@160johansson6]

It sounds a lot beter when you drive so not really high quality