‪@Indian_Motorcycle‬

[@jeffrobodene1485]

I have watched many of your Indian Challenger videos. Yesterday, March 12th, my wife and I ordered a 2022 Indian Pursuit Dark Horse Metallic Red/Black Premium. Absolutely a stunning bike. Thank you for your input and videos!

[@chrisc6188]

Ordered mine yesterday also. Dealer said mine will be here between April 15th to April 30th. Can't wait

[@jeffrobodene1485]

@@chrisc6188 LOL! My dealer told me June. I can't wait. I owned a 2015 Roadmaster, and this bike is what I have been waiting for. An American made V-Twin, water cooled, touring motorcycle.

[@Ridingfish]

You TWO are so fuxking awesome!! Thank you for the kind words and please when you get them tag me in a photo if you have any way to do so!! ALSO CONGRATULATIONS TO THE BOTH OF YOU!!!

[@coreycodling6661]

I was one of those waiting for this BIKE! Blue Dark horse ordered!

[@Ridingfish]

Congratulations!!!

[@Miles_on_2wheels]

Its a Roadmaster with a Challenger front. Now with saying that I would have gotten this and not the roadmaster I just purchased last saturday. I always loved the look and style of the challenger

[@Ridingfish]

7-day return policy!! Eeekkk. Im just kidding but I hear you!!!

[@troyford2884]

I hear you mate, im picking my roadmaster up next week.

[@onlyhereonce7290]

As an owner of a Roadmaster I kinda want a Pursuit. Because of the electronically adjustable suspension. It would be best to buy a pursuit premium and if need be, take off the trunk.

[@bradlozano2571]

Now lets see if Indian will now put the Challenger engine and chassis in a EGS and a RK style Bike...a (Strip down version)

[@Ridingfish]

That would be super cool to have that PP108 in that style of a bike!!

[@Otterb0x]

I dig it. Love the Indian on the tank and the light on the lowers.

[@Ridingfish]

The lights do look cool!!

[@slim56]

I think the pursuit looks amazing. I like the Red Darkhorse.

[@dysfunctionalveteranese4905]

I agree! We are ordering the Deep Water Metallic (Blue)

[@Ridingfish]

Congratulations on the blue!!! Red is soo awesome... did you all see the white on the website!?!?! I will say I have been hard on Indian about the colors and now I have to say they hit them out of the park this time!!!!!!! Love them!!

[@dysfunctionalveteranese4905]

@@Ridingfish I did see the white after someone pointed that out on one of the FB Indian groups. Looks great. I have a 22 FTR-S in White Smoke. That color is the only reason I didn't cough up an extra $2K for the FTR-R Carbon...

[@miketheman4578]

Great vid again bro! visiting Minneapolis for my birthday March 13th to catch tool at the target centre, can't wait to check out your indian dealership while I am there! the pursuit is a BADASS machine!

[@Ridingfish]

Hell yea!! Happy Birthday!! sounds like good time!! Hope you get a chance to Stop in to St Paul!!

[@DrDiff952]

I was one of those who wanted the Challenger tour bike with a Lloyd's tune

[@toddstacy372]

So glad I haven’t pulled the trigger already. It was primarily because the color options in the past didn’t do anything for me. Game changed.

[@Ridingfish]

There is some really nice colors!! Did you see the white?? I didn't see it tell after my video dropped!! Looks great!! Imo

[@jeffpalmer5502]

The cross country lives! Well now you did it you probably just cost me $36,000 because might as well get the stage 2 cams and pipes while im at it , I have 83,000 on my victory and I love the thing and if you close your eyes and ride the Challenger it feels darn near the same albeit quite a bit more torquey. And better brakes. Great vid! Great bike!

[@Ridingfish]

Oh boy!! These Pursuits are something else!! Let me know when you get yours!! Im jealous!! Also I want to say congratulations!!

[@trucker-d4161]

Love the bike, but what is up with the way they printed Pursuit? Why couldn’t they’ve made it match the Indian style logo?

[@Ridingfish]

I hear you!!

[@davidbeauchamp9663]

I forgot to add, your bike looks and sounds awesome 👌

[@Ridingfish]

OH BOY I LOVE MY BIKE! Thank you!

[@DrDiff952]

The lack of driving lights has been the Achilles heal of every Faring on Indian Motorcycles since the original released Faring

[@davidbeauchamp9663]

Yo Fish!!! What's up my bro. Yes sir it is riding season. Very happy 😊. Brother you made a comment about how you thought the Pursuit was going to have the bat wing type of fairing. Well, me too man. I still have my X bike with 62k miles just replaced my shock with penske shock. Awesome. I thought I was going to buy the new pursuit to replace my Vic. Looks like I'm going to have to wait to see what's next. Great vid.

[@Ridingfish]

I HEAR YOU!! well this Pursuit and Challengers is the closest thing for as of now... fingers crossed you don't have to wait long!

[@chrisc6188]

Don't forget about the icon colors. I ordered the dark horse premium in the icon quartz gray. The price is 35,750

[@Ridingfish]

Yea u didn't go over Icon much!! I would love to see yours.. when you get it tag me In your picture!!

[@karlneumeister2802]

That blue definitely has me hooked

[@Ridingfish]

Ill say that the last couple years i was tough on Indian for their Challenger Colors and now i cant say that .. So many good options

[@karlneumeister2802]

@@RidingfishI was thinking about getting a 20 challenger in metallic blue in may but since this came out I’m going to wait since this has what I would want until I can test one out.

[@brianhelbach916]

I ordered my dark Horse Luxury edition in Pearl White/Metalic Black. April can't come soon enough!!

[@Ridingfish]

awwwww DAMN!! CONGRATULATIONS!!! That is soo awesome.. Im a little jelly

[@DrDiff952]

I had hoped it would be a handlebar mounted Faring from the Roadmaster but this could be my new dream Indian Motorcycle.

[@Ridingfish]

This Motorcycle needed to come!! So many ppl wanted it.. But who is to say the handlebar mounted fairing is not on their list.. i guess they can only move so fast.. idk..

[@thanosetsitty1896]

Can’t wait to test ride that bike when the demo truck comes to town.

[@Ridingfish]

As am I!! Well I know I'm going to find one while in Daytona!!

[@roadglide]

We see you from Texas Big Fish. The sound of music going in out there. TNO! Ride safe and ride often. ATAGTT. Keep representing. It starts with us. Peace.

[@Ridingfish]

Thank you for always supporting me brother!!

[@roadglide]

@@Ridingfish 100%!

[@DMVSoloRider]

Fish - you can buy every single thing separating a Pursuit from a Challenger and put it on your bike, including the electronic shock ($1k). The one thing you can’t buy for your white beast is that super hot thin red pin stripe! 😂 Great vid!

[@Ridingfish]

Hahaha thank you!! I can't find the shock and would I be able to update my information center!?!? Idk..!! Thank you for the kind words!!

[@DMVSoloRider]

@@Ridingfish go build a regular challenger on the site - it’s now listed as an accessory (along with all the other pieces). I imagine it comes with software for your ride command in the same way when you add heated grips you get that addition to ride command. 👍

[@thomasroy6554]

The one thing you cant get is the VIN tag. LOL

[@anthonyorr5737]

The pursuit looks awesome.

[@Ridingfish]

I agree with you!!

[@samson8748]

I got my own quick disconnect trunk love it.

[@samson8748]

You can get the shock retro fitted. Iam doing it. Indian Lakeville.

[@Ridingfish]

They will be able to update your infotainment screen and everything??

[@DrDiff952]

Yes trade the Challenger in for the Persuit!

[@tennwingman3350]

It makes me smile when you think about the best tourer you automatically come up with the Goldwing. That is because the Goldwing has proven itself over many decades. Now the Indian cannot be crowned the "best" tourer until it has paid it's due's over many yrs. We will see. I am on my 3rd Goldwing and it would take some doing to convince me that anything else is tops. Dude, I had electric shock adjustment on my 1989 Wing, lol This is amazing? Thanks for the video. Be safe, have fun.

[@Ridingfish]

I call it how I see it and I know that the GW is up there in the top tour across the board!!

[@Ridingfish]

About the electric shock i know but now it's still showing how far some ppl are and are not willing to change. electric wind shields have been around a long time as well!!

[@karlneumeister2802]

Great information told the bank next March when I go to Colorado I’m getting a blue dark horse.

[@Ridingfish]

That's awesome!!! I'll be the first to say congratulations !!

[@karlneumeister2802]

@@Ridingfish thank you and and watching these video’s want’s that Indian more but I’ll keep putting miles on the vtx for now so we can take care of the kids my wife seems to acquire.

[@RickyNotSoMartin]

I'm glad you got to ride Fish! Great video! I would like to see a review of the Pursuit from you since you've ridden so many miles on the Challenger! Hope you get to do that trip to Mexico!

[@Ridingfish]

Hahaha .. what you don't want to join me to Mex..or Alaska? Thank you!

[@darkhorse1989]

So I own a 19 dark horse and whoever had it for The 5000 miles before me put a trunk on it so not only do my bags lock but also my trunk does along with the heated grips, power windshield, heated seat , awesome suspension indian is by far the best motorcycle in the game

[@Ridingfish]

Yes yes!!

[@DrDiff952]

I would be honored to have ridingfish to ride a bike of mine!

[@Ridingfish]

Dare me!?!?!?!? Hahahahha

[@craigschannel1041]

Looking forward to seeing it in Daytona. I am liking it more and more with that trunk and the electronic shock sets the bar for this class. Steady progress for Indian.

[@Ridingfish]

going for the win i believe!!

[@dalerobertson9618]

Buy the parts you already have done the exhaust and tune , and think about all the extras you have put on your bike keep it and add the trunk and lower fairings , and I'm sure you could retro fit the electric shock $$$$ save yourself some 💰

[@Ridingfish]

yes, i agree with you.. im doing a video now to see whats better to buy right away a Challenger or Pursuit,... in my case 100% ill stay with the Challenger.. also the Suspension can be added to mine!

[@vmonk1474]

I'm waiting for a Power Plus bike similar to the Springfield. No offense to the HUGE fairing, but I really don't need all that. Give me that engine, bags, and a windshield and I'll be at my local Indian dealer signing papers.

[@Ridingfish]

Oh, I hear you, hoping Indian Motorcycle does as well!!

[@dysfunctionalveteranese4905]

We were set order a Road Master we did a build on---BUT... Saw the release of the Pursuit this morning as well as Indian Radio live with Curtis. Built the Pursuit Limited Premium, preordered it, and let my dealership know our appointment next week is for the Pursuit. Indian of Albuquerque just let me know that they have been told to expect deliveries to start second quarter. Hope it arrives before Sturgis Bike Week. If not, first long tour on it for us will be Daytona Bike Week 2023

[@Ridingfish]

Well I hope to see you rolling up in Sturgis with the all new pursuit!! What color did you order!!??

[@dysfunctionalveteranese4905]

@@Ridingfish We pre-ordered the Deepwater Metallic. Our RM order and deposit appointment for next week will now be for the Pursuit.

[@DrDiff952]

Buy persuit over Challenger any day. Take the tour pack off and bingo instant challenger

[@Ridingfish]

Yes!!

[@kevintatum2200]

The pursuit looks sweet

[@Ridingfish]

i like it thats for sure!!

[@Tigerric3]

said it on the previous video ... L O V E !!! but it's around 40.000 dollar here in Belgium (and 45 in the Netherlands ...)

[@Ridingfish]

Thats a big number to pay that is for sure... just wondering how does that compare to HD and Goldwings?

[@Tigerric3]

Roadglide Limited starts at 38.000 goldwing tour starts at 42.000

[@DoucetteMichael]

So do you think they went with the Pursuit in the Challenger form because it is out selling the Chieftains?

[@Ridingfish]

i would say that because they have to RoadMaster to the Chieftain now they have the Pursuit to the Challenger

[@chrishunter5041]

Would have thought they'd go full out and added adaptive cruise system.

[@Ridingfish]

Im hear alot of ppl sat that as well as linked brakes.. I really didn't like adaptive cruise

[@thomasroy6554]

If you came off of a Challenger LTD or DH would you go with a Pursuit standard or would you want the Lean Angle Tech and start with the Premium package to get that feature? One thing they did help me make my mind on was the tour box. Was on the fence on whether to get an OEM box with locking capabilities or an aftermarket box for my Challenger. The electronic locking OEM is cool but way more expensive than the aftermarket boxes. With the Pursuit being added, I don't think it would be worth it to put the Indian box on the Challenger now. That's a lot of coin for something that will not add value to the bike, especially now. Thinking it would be better to go a-market (gets the Job done) and save the coin for a set of Lloyds cams (makes the Job way more fun). Any tour box would be an option that I would only have on the bike for trips and would be in storage otherwise.

[@Ridingfish]

So, coming off a Challenger already, I would probably get the premium

[@trucker-d4161]

Goldwing does the same thing with suspension, has for many years, it’s all based on weight, you choose 1-25, and have presets for one rider or two. Don’t know how you call this hands down, the best tourer, let the customers decide that.

[@jamesspencer406]

Trucker D I own a Challenger and you are right.The Wing is tough to beat.It is a choice for sure I have owned both and they are great bikes

[@Ridingfish]

Well other than Goldwing no one else has it on their baggers do they? I thank that it's that type of thing that puts the Pursuit over the top.. I talk about Goldwing and i praise it every time because i know what that bike is all about.. sometimes the first do have something does not make them the best forever! Right??

[@trucker-d4161]

@@Ridingfish no, definitely doesn’t make it the best to be first. I just think it adds to the indian to make themselves better. I’ve been waiting for a full bagger(challenger) to come out. I’ve owned visions, road glide, voyager, now a goldwing, and I will say to this day, that the road master I rented for 1500 miles in 4 days , is still the best riding bike I’ve ever been on. Down side was way les room between passenger and driver, than the wing, that was the deciding factor, hopefully the Pursuit has more room

[@delmarodowell2884]

Does your ride commmand work well with no hiccups of disconnecting from your phone. Heard they came out with update to address this.

[@Ridingfish]

I have never had issues with that!!.. Sometimes, the GPS is crazy 🤪 but always works

[@SaskRiderMoto]

First thing first........Ride when you can, get that wind Therapy and we will still be here after you are done. I am still waiting to ride and looks like not to Mid April. So Nov 1 to April 15 sucks in Canada hahaha. I agree, I was really hoping for the Chieftain Liquid Cooled performance bagger. If you are looking at getting in to a Challenger, Cheaper to go Persuit for the full dresser. That is 1 thing I wish I did when I got the Chieftain, went to a RoadMaster for the har lowers and trunk and take them off when not needed, but they did not have Radar Blue so I did not get it. Now I am spending about $5500-7000 CDN to do it all afterwards on the Chieftain. As I said earlier to you on IG, I think White would still be you. But the Black is nice as well. Myself would be Blue then Red then White then Black in DH then Ltd as second choice. But as I said to you before, I would loose too much on trade in to switch to the Challenger/Pursuit right now since I just got my Chieftain july 2021. I still want 1 badly but have to wait and be responsible haha. So I will keep watching videos and dreaming of riding the beast through your videos haha. Great Vid as always.

[@Ridingfish]

Holy, thank you for all the support!! As for losing your money keep your eyes open the times are nuts when it comes to resell values! But that being said I'm in the same boat I have to spend to upgrade the Challenger and can't really get the Pursuit!! Hope you have to join the states for a ride this summer and fingers crossed for a very early spring for you!!! (And me)

[@SaskRiderMoto]

@@Ridingfish I am working hard to try and make July work to come down and meet you and see the KOB. Think it will be a blast hanging out with you.

[@Ridingfish]

Should be awesome!!

[@lelandcarter1417]

Damm! I bought my Challenger too soon!

[@Ridingfish]

Well,... best bagger being made!! Maybe not full dressed tour tho!! Idk!! We in the same boat!! Now one part at a time!?!?

[@DrDiff952]

I definitely want the limited persuit with electric shock and Chrome. INDIAN MOTORCYCLES NEED CHROME IMHO

[@kacowboy]

I am trying to find a picture of the Spirit Blue Dark Horse. The wife said I can get one but only after getting the 100k mileage medallion from HOG for my 2014 Road King, well 14685 miles to go.

[@Ridingfish]

well sounds like you may need to do a few 1k in a day and have the NEW Pursuit in just a couple months time!!!! i have not seen one in pictures yet either!!

[@kacowboy]

@@Ridingfish My goal is to have those 14685 miles done by the 4th of July 2022.

[@Hipporider]

It's just an accessorised Challenger, except for the electronic suspension. Point is, is it cheaper to upgrade a Challenger with accessories to Pursuit level 🇦🇺

[@Ridingfish]

Well trunks are 3K and we have not ordered the 900 lowers yet! Or even the lights.. idk I think it's better to buy the pursuit if one could.. also because the pursuit resell will be better then all the stuff added to the Challenger.. but in my case I may have to buy some add ons!!

[@thomasroy6554]

Is it cheaper. Tough to say. Been seeing reports of regrets from people that upgraded their base Challengers and not getting some of the bells and whistles like the lean angle tech from the DH and Limited. Not to mention the trade in value based on the VIN even with those upgrades. A Challenger base with all the add ons is still a Challenger base on paper (title). A Challenger (Base/DH/Limited) with all the Pursuit add ons is still a Challenger on paper. Accessories don't add value to a bike unless they come from the factory with those accessories. IMHO doesn't mean anything if you keep bike long term, it's your bike make it yours for the long term, but if you want to trade or sell say after 2, 3 or 4 years, you may want to remove those accessories and sell separately to recoup due to that 5-7k in accessories may only be worth 500 to 1k mounted on the bike, but 3 or 4k sold separately.

[@MatlockMoto]

The point is actually the opposite. It’s cheaper to buy the pursuit than add all the stuff it has that the challenger doesn’t. I don’t want that extra stuff so the challenger was better for me, but if I did, I’d have to pay at least a thousand more than the cost of a Pursuit to upgrade my challenger to have everything the Pursuit has.

[@jamesspencer406]

Ah don't think so,those accessories are way pricy

[@onlyhereonce7290]

Indian motorcycle needs to do " Hill Assist " Now that would be nice.

[@Ridingfish]

yes i hear that and linked brakes as well as adaptive cruise

[@onlyhereonce7290]

@@Ridingfish oh yes !! If BMW can do adaptive cruise control so can Indian. And Linked brakes should have come out with the new body work of 2019.

[@ernesthairston8683]

My challenger looks just like the pursuit, I have that trunk paid for it, I have a fully dressed Indian challenger same stuff except I don’t have the electric adjustable suspension with a stage one fish the trunk is expensive my I have the black dark horse and it looks just like the pursuit trunk same trunk with locks and speakers

[@Ridingfish]

yes, im sure it is the same trunk and im also sure it looks great!!!!

[@ChevelleGearhead]

That's a nice bike but they went in the wrong direction. We want a version of the Challenger with LESS stuff on it.

[@Ridingfish]

I think people want both to be honest!! But yes, more PP108 setups!!

[@mosgor]

Thank you!

[@michaelroy925]

Would be great if they came out with a fork mounted sleeker style fairing. Beautiful Bike Otherwise. Love the Power Plus 108.

[@Ridingfish]

I hope so as well... there is just a market of ppl that dont want fixed fairings and would love to have the performance bagger getty up

[@telojorquera9546]

Was always wondering why did Indian not put a small touring pack on the challenger, instead of waiting for an after market 🤔

[@Ridingfish]

you are on to something.. they should I don't know of any small trunks .. I wonder if the cost saving isn't there and everyone would complain about the price and then never sell them??

[@danielstewart7732]

Had it been an option a year and a half ago, I would of gotten a Pursuit, over the Challenger. Hope that they will offer the new trunk in 2021 colors.

[@Ridingfish]

im with you.. my understanding is they will have all the colors!!

[@dalerobertson9618]

Yes they do I put all this on my 2021 if you don't mind spending 2300 for the trunk and the mount and don't forget 350 for the passenger pad and harness for the lights oh and another 350 for the rack

[@dalerobertson9618]

Moma really likes the arm rest another 350

[@Ridingfish]

@@dalerobertson9618, never ends!! I bet arm rests are amazing!!

[@dalerobertson9618]

@@Ridingfish yes best for her and her bad back

[@roberttownsend3821]

I want one what a cool bike I have a 2021 rodemaster if I could afford it I'd have both

[@Ridingfish]

Oh I hear you!... im wondering why both?? Do you think you would have a use for each or just because 2 is better then 1????

[@roberttownsend3821]

@@Ridingfish I love the old school look of the roadmaster air-cooled engine and the torque and everything but I love that Challenger I know it's fast and handles awesome the thing just feels so light when you ride one and would just be cool to have both they both have their cool points

[@DrDiff952]

The base black is it Metalic black as it is on the Challenger?

[@Ridingfish]

I believe it's smoke black

[@Curtis7391-t8q]

Big bore kit for the challenger would be saweet!

[@Ridingfish]

I know that there is a company now that has one and more working on them!!! so just a matter of time!!

[@johnnydangerously7186]

Question? Looks as if they have moved the radio antenna up to the trunk, what happens when you remove trunk for bagger look? I always liked that my Roadmaster had the antenna mounted low just for this purpose!

[@Ridingfish]

I looked close at that too!! But I would imagine it would just unplug and have to go Bluetooth!! Idk tho to be honest

[@thomasroy6554]

That is an awesome question. Unless there is an alternate mounting point for the antenna, the radio is useless without the trunk and the antenna. Haven't seen too much about Roadmaster guys removing their trunks, but with all the trunks sold to Challenger guys and with this new offering there will be a time when people will want to go trunkless. With the Victory lineup there were aftermarket guys making wall mounted trunk holders for the garage to use when going trunkless.

[@johnnydangerously7186]

I remove my RM trunk when I’m not two up touring. That was a big plus for buying an indian the convertibility to go from a tourer to a bagger. That new Pursuit will go from touring to bagger in one minute if it’s like my RM.

[@Coach_DukeVI]

Bro. I just ordered the hard lowers and am going to order my trunk in June. Those lowers are 🔥

[@ernesthairston8683]

That’s a challenger with a trunk I have the black dark horse and the stuff I put on it it looks like the pursuit exactly, I do love the new colors and the electric preload adjust the driving heated seat all can be added to the challenger

[@Hipporider]

@@ernesthairston8683 but is it cheaper to buy the Pursuit rather then accessorising the Challenger the same ?🇦🇺

[@Ridingfish]

Yes, I think at this point adding parts would be the easiest.. but if I was buying a new motorcycle now I may buy the Pursuit!!

[@CaffeineAndGasoline]

I keep trying to talk me out of it. I might cave. They did *everything* that was on my wish list. Everything.

[@Ridingfish]

They hit this tour out of the park grand slam!!

[@terrydalme5801]

Is the trunk detachable on the pursuit?

[@Ridingfish]

I'm sure it is. I have never seen an Indian that is not quick detach..Not sure about the radio antenna tho

[@painsrides3616]

All I've been doing is off-road riding....For the last few months my wife has been talking to me about all the fun we've had and places we've been on the Victory. I think she is getting the bug to tour again... For me I've had no motivation to road ride and the Victory mostly sits... This Pursuit is waking up my desire to tour again, I don't know why but seeing this bike makes me want to throw my girl on the back and go everywhere... 😎

[@Ridingfish]

That's awesome!!! Maybe take a trip on the Vic and it will all come back!! If you do get a new Pursuit let me know!!! Would be awesome to hear about it!!!!

[@johnnydangerously7186]

That’s exactly what happened to me. I was perfectly happy with my Springfield till wife decided she wanted in on the adventure! Goodbye Springfield and hello to the Roadmaster!

[@painsrides3616]

@@Ridingfish ... I don't know if its going to happen this year. Im in training for work through, at least, this Sept.. I was planning to leave the Vic in storage until 2023. I only have time for off-road riding, no tours or anything like that. Plus I just don't want to deal with a second bike while I'm training

[@tpharo34]

You got me looking at Pursuit now and my wife is sold. I modifying with low rise bars; stage 1 intake. What do you suggest on exhaust mod off the floor?

[@Ridingfish]

Do you want slip on type.. or what's your goal??

[@tpharo34]

@@Ridingfish well I think I am going to start with slip on and later on decide on full exhaust. Prob go with Rhine hart w/ a stage 1 and ask Indian to flash tune

[@Ridingfish]

Rhine harts are a little quiet honestly.. but their finish is good. You could always get a cat delete from tab to wake up the sound if need be

[@tpharo34]

@@Ridingfish where can I get a cat delete done? Does it mess up the function of bike like gas mileage?

[@norvillesimpson1880]

Does it come from the factory with 2-1 exhaust

[@Ridingfish]

I wish!!!... no

[@DrDiff952]

I wanted the Original Faring and Round Bags with the PowerPulse engine

[@DrDiff952]

But I do like the dash on the persuit/Challenger better than the dash on the Roadmaster/ Chieftain

[@Ridingfish]

The infotainment yes!! I agree with you!! If they did do a pp108 In a fork mounted .. I would hope it would be different then RM and Chieftain!!

[@ernesthairston8683]

Add a tour pack fish to your challenger fish and lowers to it and you can buy a heated seat, the pursuit is a challenger fish, I thought the chieftain was going to get this motor too they should do it. But they just added some stuff to the challenger, because my bike looks exactly like the pursuit and it’s a challenger

[@Ridingfish]

Yes!! So added tech!! And it should be a dressed Challenger!! But fingers crossed chieftain 108 next time!!

[@dysfunctionalveteranese4905]

@@Ridingfish Maybe that is what the Guardian is going to be; a fork mounted fairing bagger or tourer with the Powerplus motor

[@ernesthairston8683]

They also sounding like you can get the electric suspension added to your challenger I don’t know how much it cost yet, but I’m gone damn sure find out how much that will cost me if it’s to much I will keep what I have, they will reprogram it! It rides the same as the challenger fish all that power with extra storage

[@ernesthairston8683]

@@Ridingfish I’m hearing they can add electronic suspension to existing challengers going to my dealer today to see how much that cost, if it cost to much I will leave it as it is

[@frankderoin7684]

fish ordered the white icon pursuit-frank from nebraska

[@Ridingfish]

We are close enough so I could see it in person maybe!! Sooo awesome!!

[@don-tj7su]

What's the price of the new bike ? Why not just get the challenger and add the tour pack and lowers ? Probably save thousands

[@dysfunctionalveteranese4905]

That is an interesting point. I have not looked at building a Challenger with the add ons to make it a Pursuit. My assumption would be the opposite of yours. I think it would end up costing more than the Pursuit much like the turning the Chieftain into a RM does (we tried doing add ons to Chieftain to make a RM and it came out at a higher cost)

[@don-tj7su]

@@dysfunctionalveteranese4905 you can get tour packs starting at 360 bucks for the challenger..and with the challenger starting at around 24 grand I'm betting its a lot cheaper to just add to the challenger

[@don-tj7su]

@@dysfunctionalveteranese4905 jtd cycle parts has hard lowers for 950.so to add the tour pack and lowers its still thousands less than this new bike

[@dysfunctionalveteranese4905]

@@don-tj7su valid point if a person is looking at keeping cost down with Challenger and going somewhere besides Indian for the tour pack. For us, we are looking at that electronic suspension, the IMU tech (Love it in my FTR-S), and pretty much everything we see coming direct from the factory on the model we are ordering.

[@dysfunctionalveteranese4905]

@@don-tj7su Your suggestions all make a ton of sense if looking at accessorizing the bike minimally for touring and sticking to just what you are suggesting. I have not looked elsewhere or a build on a Challenger on Indian's site, but when I look at what else we want on a Challenger to turn it into this (lower fairing on crashbars, forward crash bar storage, crashbar fairing running lights, etc.) not sure my wife and I could keep the cost lower on a Challenger build.

[@Moto.Adventures3]

Do you know if the locking trunk is detachable?

[@Ridingfish]

It is on the RM so I'm sure!!

[@Moto.Adventures3]

@@Ridingfish Great job on the video! I have been looking at the new HD Road Glide ST, but honestly Indian just seems to be 1-2 steps ahead the last few years. Apples to Apples the Challenger/Pursuit wins hands down. The only thing that keeps me leaning toward HD is the culture and aftermarket parts. Though from what I hear once I ride the Indian my decision might be much easier!

[@Ridingfish]

Bro, Go Ride it and you will know the reason Aftermarket is behind is because some stuff can't just be changed so easy due to the fact STOCK is so GOOD!!..

[@kennethwise7108]

You got rid of your Challenger and got a Pursuit?

[@Ridingfish]

No I didn't!!

[@GT-sj3si]

Just ordered a Darkhorse Icon

[@Ridingfish]

BOOM!!!! WHAT ICON????? IM PUMPED FOR YOU!

[@HDR20]

It blows the Harleys out of the water performance-wise but not touring-wise or fit and finish. Harley will still sell 10-1 touring bikes to Indian and that is a fact. I do love the red/black darkhorse though

[@trucker-d4161]

Fit and finish yes, but touring? Experience?

[@Ridingfish]

what do you mean touring-wise??? help me get what im messing!!

[@HDR20]

@@Ridingfish dealerships, parts availability, and shops that can actually work on it if there is an issue. Look any of the touring bikes are capable in the ride and comfort but if there if a problem arises I don't what to be stuck like chuck

[@trucker-d4161]

@@Ridingfish that was referring to a statement by HdRider20, saying touring wise Harley was ahead of them, I think that’s not true, the experience, was asking how much experience he has on an indian

[@HDR20]

@@trucker-d4161 There is more to touring than just jumping on a bike and riding. Like I said earlier every manufacturer that offers a touring bike is capable of the ride but what if an issue arises. HD has a dealership almost on every corner(lol)more parts available and more techs that can fix a problem. I have known of guys that had trips ruined and stranded for weeks waiting on parts because of the lack of aftermarket for Indian motorcycles. I happen to like Indian bikes but not there yet for a touring bike because I use it at such, Now I will add a new chief or rogue to my stable but until the aftermarket or more dealers are added I will not have an Indian touring bike jmo

[@steveh7108]

They still aren't as good as a 10 year old BMW k1600. And I am not biased toward BMW I actually sold mine hoping to buy an Indian a year-and-a-half ago. But I keep hoping Indian will up the game and they have with this but it's still not as good. I will just have to keep riding my old bike until Indian UPS the game a little bit more. I also seriously considered the FTR but that little bitty fuel tank keeps telling me no.

[@Ridingfish]

What is missing VS the BMW?

[@lewisduncan2273]

looks like you can add electronic suspension to challenger for about 1k

[@Ridingfish]

I just heard this!! I'll have to look it up!!

[@347mav3]

Why would it be better than the Roadmaster. I missed the 'clear' part? I like it. But, I don't clearly see it's better. In fact the low end torque in my mind would put the Roadmaster in place as a better touring bike. The only clear thing I can see is that Indian has priced me out of the market.

[@roberttownsend3821]

I have a 2021 Roadmaster and I love it I love the air-cooled look the engine and the torque is awesome but if I could I'd buy them both

[@347mav3]

@@roberttownsend3821 I agree! I certainly can't let go of my Chieftain for a new Challenger/Pursuit but, I'd own both if possible.

[@Ridingfish]

Well the tq is pretty close to the same then add the HP of the Challenger and the new suspension!! I guess that's what made it clear to me..

[@347mav3]

@@Ridingfish The torque numbers may be similar but the rpm at which they occur is the main difference. Which,most guys that tour love the torque.

[@roberttownsend3821]

@@Ridingfish I hate to say it but I probably ride in the pursuit.l might have to trade my roadmaster in

[@johnnydangerously7186]

It’s as if a Roadmaster and a challenger hooked up!

[@Ridingfish]

Haha 😄 🤣 😂 I like that!!

[@dysfunctionalveteranese4905]

With genetics leaning heavily to the Challenger ;)

[@dalerobertson9618]

Pursuit, challenger same bike keep yours

[@frankderoin7684]

july 4th delivery date

[@Ridingfish]

WOOOOOOOW!! CONGRATULATIONS!! IM SOO PUMPED FOR YOU!!

[@robwinegar9033]

Think this bike is going to be some serious trouble for Harley.

[@Ridingfish]

Yes as so many have said they wanted a tour and now well here it is!!!

[@don-tj7su]

For that money I would just add a tour pack and lowers

[@lewisduncan2273]

cheaper to buy pursuit then add on. i just went over numbers with my dealer on the challenger i just ordered and addedd to in november

[@ernesthairston8683]

My the stuff I added to my challenger it looks like the pursuit and I have the big Indian tour pack that’s removable, the pursuit is a challenger with extras

[@zachkuby87]

Im pissed off that they're doin blue dark horse pursuits but not blue dark horse challengers. Wtf. ITS THE SAME BIKE

[@Ridingfish]

i guess thats one thing that just makes them different is the color options... idk

[@zachkuby87]

They should just say hey these are the colors we offer. Order what you want. You should be able to get any color on any machine. My favorite color is still the original gray on the base model. But they quit doing it. So i went with a blue limited. They wouldn't do blue dark horse. Now here we are 6 months after i take delivery of my blue limited. Oh we'll do blue dark horses now. Like cmon.

[@Ridingfish]

Sorry, yea i feel for you i really do... i understand what youre saying tho.. time to trade in... jk

[@zachkuby87]

@@Ridingfish hahaha. I dont want the extra baggage. If i could. Id have base model in gray with the dark horse blackout package i only went limited for the blue color lol.

[@Firemedic1985]

How can you review something you're not riding in the video...?

[@Ridingfish]

Because i have rode a Challenger for almost 30,000 miles and know what that is like so adding some extras onto it i know the setup!

[@donaldsalamone3722]

I was wishing 150 hp and 175 torque

[@Ridingfish]

Me too!!!! 😢

[@OutbackOutlaw]

First

[@Ridingfish]

Yes you are!! Heck im still watching it too!! ahahaha

[@dalerobertson9618]

I have all this on my 2021 challenger. It was a bit pricey but I think they copied my bike with this 1

[@Ridingfish]

They might of!!

[@dalerobertson9618]

If your coming to Daytona I will be at the Indian shop on 3/6 and at lloydz both next door maybe we can have a drink

[@Ridingfish]

ill be there but not tell around the 7th or 8th.. let me know!

[@jamescantlin1072]

I am sorry but talk about steeling the look from Harley because they could not come up with their own look and the bags to me have the look of a Yamaha royal stair and I just could not get myself to buy a copycat, and the motor looks like a plastic and here in Michigan no dealer network so would have to travel lots of miles away from home to get warrantee work done and better chance of them going out of biasness and then what? but big thing no dealers around and no tecs if something go's wrong. just my thoughts so don't no one get all prissy you want one go get one I'm shore their nice just not for me.

[@Ridingfish]

yea thats is a tough price to pay.. just wondering how is that compared to HD or Honda?

[@King-ww1kz]

I love it but the name is trash. They need a better marketing team

[@Ridingfish]

i hear you!

[@jamescantlin1072]

batwing you mean another copycat of Harley Sorry but it's trying to look like Harley because Harley sales more bikes than anyone they have the market and not just saying I have owned a lot of bikes hade Goldwing before getting my 2020 Urta Limited I did a lot of research before dropping 30gs and test road everything unless you have test road everything you can't leave a good review only a bias review and really Honda is a in line six and more like a bmw rocket looks now, different category and pretty much everything on that polars or Indian says Harley Davidson so the big ???? is dealer networks to take care of you on the road with a good trained Teck and to each his own put your but on what you want to ride and spend your money on and there's not one bike better than the other it's all in taste and were one wants to put their money and they are all junk when they don't run!!!!! P.S. IM does not bias against Polaris I happen to own 2 2020 xc 850s and a 2021 xcr 850 and a 2022 xcr 850 just so you don't think I'm dogging on Polaris / Indian all of this is my opinion so don't anyone have a bad day keep your blood presser down comes down too it it's your money you spend it how you want the hell with anyone wants you to spend it just ride have fun enjoy the freedom nothing like rolling down the road on a motorcycle .

[@davidbeauchamp9663]

I understand. I just wonder if you have ever ridden a Challenger yet?

[@jamescantlin1072]

@@davidbeauchamp9663 you guys don't even know the same category motor to motor this is a over head cam also watter cooled and yes I have road every kind of bager out there and recently and you can't tell me there is no issue with these bikes because there is I have friends that have them and have to drive hundreds of miles to get them worked on no dealer net work no one in Michigan can do warranty work sometimes they have to load them up on a trailer and drive from Michigan all the way to New York nope not me if I need something I drive 1/2 hr and don't matter what state I'm in aways a dealer not to fair in the distance but have not had to use one yet they will have to have at least 3 dealers per state before I would even think about it my thing is you can't get on here and say these bikes are the best out there and that's what he's saying in his talk show every bike is drifrent and it's what you want to ride but don't sit there and say it's better not one better than the other and that's the truth he's sits there say how much better it is then all the other bikers well that is bullshit!!