‪@Indian_Motorcycle‬

[@larrycrass2641]

I got hooked on multi day rides 25 years ago I love the southwest vistas, red rock country and open spaces where if something jumps onto the road you can see it before it gets there. Before moving to Mn 10 years ago I was riding 30,000 mi.+ yearly. retired early and lived in California so the weather was conducive for that and was single with no pets. Walmart has a road atlas with designated scenic roads highlighted get one of those and you will not be disappointed. That has been sort of my bible and if you take a wrong turn you might still be amazed.

[@jeffmcsayles397]

So, as it doesn't sound like a lot of gain. But when you add it all up : Lost 22 lbs of weight Gained 9 on HP Gained 5.5 on torque It is a significant gain, for sure. Down the road, would think about cams, but, would look at the S & S or the Lloyd'z set, because the Indian set sucks ! Last but not least, I love the Harley dyno guy saying, what I've been telling people for decades ! You're paying a premium price for a premium cycle (H-D). Why in the name of God would you spend THAT much $$$ to have to shell out an additional $2500 to $5000 to make it run/ride right, like it should ??? No one has come up with a good answer to that question, to this day... Keep it going, Bro! And I'll keep watching !!!!

[@FinesseTheChallenger]

That bike sounds so amazing, wow. I like seeing the double pipes out the back tho however, you are making me rethink this LOL. It sounds really good! Good stuff. I agree these are some of the best riding bikes right out of the box.

[@Ridingfish]

💪💪 these are amazing! I'm with you 100%.. I like the look of two also but I like 2-1 systems and I kind of want everyone to know so that's why I like the one pipe!

[@cbrippee]

I like this Toce system in that not to loud idleing and great sound when getting on the throttle. Reminds me a bit of my Victory Tri-oval cobras, keeps the neighbors happy getting out of the neighborhood. I loved the look on your friends face and his remarks of how great the stock Indian suspension is compared to any Harley. Guess he did not know that Victory and Indian have been doing this for years and if he rode the Chieftain, Roadmaster, Springfield bikes he would find the same.

[@Ridingfish]

I mean baby steps now his feet is wet to what Indian Motorcycle is doing!! He is open minded and fun to talk with.. his insite about performance of HD and some of the differences are make it always a great conversation!

[@larrycrass2641]

I took mine off my road glide when i traded it in and they fit and work very well. Another thing that works is T- Bags seat bag that sits on the passenger seat. Keep tools, riding gear, rain suit, wind shield cleaning stuff, water in saddle bags, clothing, laptop in the seat bag. when arriving at a destination everything I need overnight is there. It is like leaning back in a recliner and cruising. I keep liquids in sealed plastic bags so if they leak it is contained. Be safe. Looking forward to seeing and hearing your rig. Larry

[@Ridingfish]

Thank you for the advice!! I'll look into that stuff also!! I have some on the go ways but I have not done any multiple day trips yet with a trunk but I'm excited!!

[@sinr247365]

This makes me even more anxious to get my tune. She sounds great 🤘🤘

[@GraemeBlore]

That was really interesting to hear about when the air snorkel was pulled out, and how the power peaked 500 revs lower. Love these videos with your mate Fred.

[@Ridingfish]

Thank you... we found that very interesting as well!!

[@The_baggerbond]

I just ordered my Toce 2 into one full exhaust because of your vid. I have the same exact Pursuit. Thanks for the great content 🤟🏼

[@Ridingfish]

Oh congratulations!! you are going to love it!!

[@cristiancastrillon3035]

👍🤜🤛🇺🇸🥇🔥1️⃣💪 ! Good deals

[@shawnkumerow3166]

That suspension made me switch I had a 2020 roadglide I love that suspension. Looks like he might make the switch from that ride.

[@Ridingfish]

It was a genuine real moment...

[@russrogers728]

Sounds good and the flat TQ. Curve is nice

[@Ridingfish]

💪 💪 💪

[@michaelroy925]

Minnow is So Cool BTW 😊👍 Nice power increase and great sound! Definitely worth it! 😎

[@Ridingfish]

Thank you!! Minnow is super cool!! I appreciate the kind words!

[@larrycrass2641]

I am lovin the additions. Looks like you might enjoy highway pegs. I have harley short angled adjustable with streamliner footpegs that tie in real well with the challenger lines. part #s 505000168 and 50501800. check them out in the harley parts.

[@Ridingfish]

Will do!! I 100% do need highway pegs!! Thank you!!

[@richmckenney1562]

Damn.. spicy runs fantastic!!

[@Ridingfish]

Running so good!! Im in love!

[@jeffpalmer5502]

Nice badass Victory!

[@Ridingfish]

Hahah pretty much!! 😍 love vic!!

[@nickpepper4592]

@ridingfish dude check out and review the DR JEKILL MR HYDE exhaust system please. Put it on the pursuit and delete the cat as you're doing that. You won't regret it

[@ericperry72]

So if we keep the ratio of drivetrain loss, we talking 131.2 hp/133.33lbs torque at the engine nice! Now if you got a cam could you break the 140hp?

[@Ridingfish]

Honestly I'm not sure!! But I sure would think so!! 🤔 maybe I'll have to look into Cams next!!

[@ericperry72]

@@Ridingfish I'm following your path, I gotta put my order in this February, waiting until after the holidays. Now is there a place for a second braille battery?

[@Ridingfish]

@Eric Perry , a second battery?? For what? I guess in the saddle bag.. I never thought about it

[@ericperry72]

@@Ridingfish some of us will be competing in audio contest and running more than two 800.4 amps will require another battery. For my build, I need 350watts to each speaker, that's upper lower, and bag covers, 100watts to each horn, that will be 3pair, and then 2k to the midbass/subwoofer drivers. So basically a 1 cicada 2000.4, 1 2000.1, and a small cicada 4 channel amp with say 100 watts per channel. And then a DSP.

[@ashebarley77385]

@@Ridingfish what speakers are you putting in your lowers ?

[@larrylebowski4249]

Yo, Fish. Just a curiosity. Did the exhaust swap mitigate the heat temp on your right foot? I'm in Central Texas, it's winter (35Mornings/70Afternoons!) My right foot cooks on the pursuit while wearing leather boots. I'm hoping the Cat Delete will eliminate some of the heat because 100 plus temps in summer would be WARM on the feet!

[@Ridingfish]

I only had one warm day! But honestly I leave the right lower open like 5-10% open all the time!! (Just a little open).. but it could be better 🤷‍♂️.. give me a month or two and I'll get back to you in this topic

[@David-yp4fl]

I have just made me two double cheeseburgers 🍔🍔 And thinking about this video while eating 🍔🍔 #1 the suspension is amazing 💚 you can SMOKE the competition in the curves ♂️ THE small 107 engine has made HD more money than it has Indian $$ because all the Harley riders have to buy Big bore kits just to try to keep up 🚨 they should rename the Challenger the Indian massacre 4 they just kill Harleys Love from DeKalb Mississippi USA 🇺🇲♥️

[@Ridingfish]

Hahahah. Challenger eat HOG ALL DAY EVERYDAY!! 💪 💪

[@vernlochtefeld1626]

@@Ridingfish I am a fan of the Indian bikes and much of their styling. But I get tired of the constant Harley bashing. If Indian is better at something promote that and leave it their without saying over the top bs about HD. Pushing people down does not push you up kind of thing. I Really like the Chief Darkhorse with 116 but got turned off by the many Indian blow guts. I bought and blacked out a new Harley Sport Glide real similar to the air cooled Chief Darkhorse. Did a warranty & epa compliant build. Nothing special screaming eagle cam etc no big bore its a 114 with a 50 state legal S&S pipe. 118 HP 122 TQ. It doesn't even have the stage 4 kit that has a bigger cam heads injectors. With the advantage of liquid cooling on yours I would think it should do better. I think Harley needs to come out with a bigger displacement version of their liquid cooled Revolution motor for their touring line much like your Indian Pursuit. Less torque and more rpm because its smaller at 1250cc but its rated 150 HP in the liquid cooled Pan American. Will it happen who knows.

[@ashebarley77385]

Hahaha ain’t that the damn TRUTH As they should OMG brilliant I wish they would seriously!!!

[@ashebarley77385]

@@vernlochtefeld1626 your saying crap as well what Harley needs to do ect ect lmao oh lord lmao

[@larrycrass2641]

Good morning. I was thinking more about miles per gallon. Touring is easier when you have more range between fill-ups. I think in one of your post you mentioned they should have added average mpg in their info. Some places predictability to fuel stops is a factor. It looks like you have persuaded me your set is the way to go. Does any of it affect the warranty?

[@Ridingfish]

It does NOT affect a warranty... Indian Motorcycle now has MPG and instant MPG.. great to hear from you!

[@larrycrass2641]

Just had a thought. I am curious what your mileage is after the upgrades.

[@Ridingfish]

You mean like as of now? I have 3,800 now... when I did the exhaust and stuff I probably had 3400

[@williehyde431]

When is the new exhaust going to be for sale?

[@Ridingfish]

email them.. going to emailed ppl first.. [e-mail]

[@amphibdriver1]

Lloyd posted on Face Book that he has recently received a big shipment of cams for the Challenger. Do you plan on getting his cams installed?

[@Ridingfish]

Cams are 8-12 weeks out is my understanding!! I don't know what my plan is 100% I have a couple of ideas and options 💪 💪 💪

[@HDR20]

Its sounds good and looks good but why get a pursuit just to strip it down like a challenger?

[@Ridingfish]

So I can put the trunk on for trips and giving Minnow a ride.. then also the trade in was too good to pass up and the fit is just a tad better then the 2020

[@cbrippee]

@@Ridingfish How long does it take to remove the trunk?

[@Ridingfish]

@@cbrippee the first time it takes like 5-10 mins.. after that depending I have min off in less then 5..

[@MotoManOz]

Hi from Australia and hope it’s not to cold. I’m hoping you can help. I’ve been watching you videos now for a while and absolutely enjoy them, in particular the Lloys tune you have done. I’ve got a 2020 challenger and I’m thinking to do the tune here in Australia but I’m hearing mix reviewers on it. Saying the bike had to be put back to the indian factory tune. Then I hear the 2022 models work better with the Lloyds tunes. So I’m really confused and would love your feedback. Btw I have a KZbin channel “Road Tripper Oz” if you want to see who I am. Take care and look forward to your reply. Damian.

[@Ridingfish]

Oh Man the 2020 Lloydz tune is good!! im not sure what others are talking about but you will love it!! I just subscribed to your channel and will check it out when i get a few mins!! Thank you for the support!!

[@MotoManOz]

@@Ridingfish thank you so much I really appreciate you supporting my channel as it’s not easy to make good content. Ok I’m glad to hear that as I’m really thinking about doing it. We are heading over to the US in July 2023 for sturgis and we are shipping our bikes over from Australia as we are touring for 3 months. Christine, my partner has an amazing bike and she wants to show it off at Sturgis. She calls herself “the barbering biker” Anyway it would be great to catch up whilst we are in the US as we are going from the west coast to the east and then back. I might get the tune done in the states. Again thank you and appreciate your getting back to me. Damian

[@markmarcelis]

sounds good Fred!

[@Ridingfish]

💪💪💪 thank you!!

[@Otterb0x]

Nice curves! That’s a solid gain.

[@Ridingfish]

Thank you!!

[@Otterb0x]

@@Ridingfish oh and the pipe looks badass the way it is. Don’t make it all black. Lol

[@Ridingfish]

Thank you!! I love it also!! Im keeping it!! It was planned to switch but not now!!

[@darcher5888]

Fred, did your 9hp gain include the ECU tune?

[@Ridingfish]

Yes that was after the exhaust AND tune

[@darcher5888]

Thanks for the quick response Fred! Long time fan of what you’ve been doing the last 3yrs. Keep up the good work!

[@Forleaftaback]

What kind of jacket is that you have on?

[@MrBrad750]

Awesome to see you sharing your passion for riding with your daughter! Why do you like the Toce Performance full exhaust system over the Tab Performance exhaust with zombie baffles? Also, have you noticed a difference in heat from bike with the cat delete? Btw...I've been waiting for this video to decide what to do next to my Indian Roadmaster. Thanks!

[@Ridingfish]

I don't believe you can use this system on the Roadmaster.. I went with Toce for the main reason I wanted no more ghost pipe... you could email Toce and ask them if they are going to do just mufflers .. I have no idea tbh [e-mail]

[@MrBrad750]

@@Ridingfish Thanks for the response and contact info. Did you notice a heat difference after installing the cat delete?

[@Ridingfish]

Honestly with the cat being under the middle of the motorcycle I have never felt too much heat!

[@MrBrad750]

@@Ridingfish Maybe it's just the Indian Roadmaster. Figured the free flowing airflow would have helped but you seem to not have this issue with your Pursuit. I purchased the Captain Itch but I believe there has to be another way to cool my headers down. My chestnuts be roasting during the summer months.

[@Ridingfish]

Well the Thunderstroke motor is hotter being aircooled.. also I don't know how and where the cat is in the exhaust system to be honest

[@PBAKER1901]

Get the power Band speakers

[@Ridingfish]

I'm going to try speakers in the hard lowers .. I may go power band but really I do hear it even going down the road!

[@JorgeL1]

Has anyone made cams for the powerplus motor yet?

[@Ridingfish]

SS\Indian Motorcycle has a set and Lloyd Garage did a few sets but been MIA for a while now

[@harryhowell5644]

Congratulations sounds like my stock road glide now! Just kidding fish

[@Ridingfish]

Hahahahhaha got me!! Haha love it!! 💪 💪 💪

[@harryhowell5644]

@@Ridingfish I know you are enjoying that pursuit. Looking forward to seeing your results

[@Ridingfish]

I appreciate your support!! Know that!!

[@cuzimaluzer777]

Which handle bars are those

[@Ridingfish]

These are the Indian Motorcycle Mitered bars

[@kembalsado1]

I notice you're thumb pressing the turn signal shut off switch? Or are you pressing somethig else. Reason is that I was watching my own videos and noticed I have a habit that I did not know I had. I constantly press that turn signal shut off switch. 😂

[@Ridingfish]

I'm About to go and rewatch this and get back to this!! At this moment I have ko idea!

[@Y0JustChiIl]

Have you named her yet?

[@Ridingfish]

You need to watch the whole thing!

[@shawnkumerow3166]

@Ridingfish speaking of names I decided to name mine Alice. The bike is a dark horse, think of pink Floyd darkside of the moon. Your old challenger is monster and dark so what's better then Darkside of Alice.

[@ashebarley77385]

Hahaha ain’t gonna lie makes you wanna trade in your HD not kidding …. Spent so much on this damn HD ugh ohlines shocks but he is right no we have to spend 15-18g to just get shit right out of the box maybe more so bullshit How much have you spend extra on your bike I’m curious to make it right for ya owning a Indian ?

[@Ridingfish]

My exhaust, tune, bars is all I have done.. less then 3k with extra passenger sissy bar

[@ashebarley77385]

@@Ridingfish OMG OMG well maybe I should just do it now almost did it in Rodger AR few weeks ago! Sure do love Amanda wish I live more up y’all’s way or who the hell knows maybe I’ll ride up spring time and bite the bullet. 3g for awesome sound and love that Toce pipe told the boys in Rodgers AR Indian dealership about your pipe they said they looked but could get it idk 🤷‍♂️

[@dwight072]

It looks like a ripper

[@Ridingfish]

Thank you!! Feels like one also!

[@painsrides3616]

Too bad its time to put it too bed for the season😕

[@Ridingfish]

😢 😭 😿 😢 😭 😿

[@painsrides3616]

@@Ridingfish Don't be sad, we're in this 💩 together ...the Vic is asleep for winter also.