Indicator Fishing & Preventing Drag with Tom Rosenbauer

Tom Rosenbauer goes into detail to explain the difference between a lagging indicator and a dragging indicator and how it impacts your nymph presentation for trout. Excellent information from author and educator Tom Rosenbauer.
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[@michaelmarks9002]

The Bob Ross of fishing. Love Tom’s narration the most.

[@BcuOchoa]

Very informative video! As a novice fly fisher, I appreciate these soo much! Thank you!

[@johnperryflytying2620]

Always love whatever you present or tie and your humility!

[@stevenvaughn1679]

The best videos out there truly appreciated

[@slimecoast2coast]

Love how fly fisherman refuse to call it a bobber

[@ItsGazify]

Love you orvis!! I’m gonna be sponsored by you one day

[@dgracia18]

One tiny point I'd make about your excellent video on indicator fishing, Tom, is that the water at the bottom of the water column "almost always" moves slower than the water at the top of the water column. The water on the surface isn't slowed down by the rocks on the bottom of the river whereas the water at the bottom is being slowed down and disturbed by them. One place that the water at the bottom does move faster at the bottom of the river than at the top is in the tailout of a pool where the water shallows quickly. As the bottom rises at the tailout preceeding a rifle, that bottom current moves a lot faster than the water at the surface. Not all tailouts are like this but any of them are are shallowing absolutely are. If you're not sure if the tailout you are looking at meets those criteria, cast a large orange nymph upstream of your indicator and watch it. You'll be amazed how much faster the bottom current will flow than the top in those conditions. You'll also catch more fish with nymphs in the tailout if you're aware this is happening. So that's one exception to an otherwise excellent rule.

[@charlesxavier6785]

Dude has a fly tattoo. Legendary.

[@williamponton7005]

Regarding the "Tuck Cast" - does the nymph shooting into the water not disturb surrounding targets?

[@koreaflyfishing]

👍🏻great

[@dougfett9842]

When Pete mentions stopping at eye level, what does that mean? What is stopping at eye level?

[@jlsteelcrafts8378]

I love fishing...but yea man...sight fishing is even more fun sometimes.

[@edwardespinoza1241]

Sheesh... what a bunch of whining "bobber" haters. Lighten TF up, when you guys make your own tutorial video's you can just not do it and or not teach it. I'm sticking with Tom and the New Fly Fisher. INDICATORS ROCK!!!!!

[@jimmagnanini5783]

I noticed that you were using two indicators (yarn and an indicator) why is that?

[@newflyfisher]

Jim I believe explained the two indicator system if you check

[@Colopwnius]

@@newflyfisher I think it's part of a different episode. If I recall correctly, it's used to spot drag.

[@sdonthefly]

Holy cow the amount of people ticked about someone using an indicator is astounding. Where legal use it man. There's nowhere in the states that says dry fly only. Euro nymphing can be superior sure, but honestly I don't think I would have ever been able to learn fly fishing without an indicator rig. I personally find euronymphing ridiculous because you don't even make use of your fly line? Like why even bother fly fishing if all your casting is some leader and tippet and that's it.

[@captainkoo]

Well said, John Portell. I’ve thought about this and I, too, asked that same question- why not just use a spinning outfit if you’re not going to use the fly line!?

[@Saahdud]

@@captainkoo Using fly line is considered the traditional way for sure, but it is not what MAKES fly fishing what it is. You are still using artificial flies when euro nymphing, so it is fly fishing. AND YES, using a spinning reel and rod WITH FLIES is also fly fishing. All you are doing is gatekeeping here, just like many others, but whether you like it or not, it is fly fishing. I think the moment you stop using artificial flies is when it is no longer fly fishing. "The sport of fishing using a rod and an artificial fly as bait." is the definition of fly fishing when you research it. People are far less likely though to switch to a spinning rod simply because fly rods are just that, FOR FLY FISHING, and in this case when you are nymphing, using a specialised nymphing rod is going to be better, fly line or not, than using a spinning rod, which is geared towards SPIN FISHING. You don't get the right flex or sensitivity with a spinning rod which is why people still use fly rods even when Euro Nymphing.

[@ianpritchard3404]

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[@kpmurphy2738]

The first thing you have to do to master bobber fishing is to head down to Walmart and buy the three pack of the plastic, red and white bobbers. Of course you could just learn to cast, mend and drift properly.

[@gladegoodrich2297]

After 70 years fishing I only know one thing, it's not that hard! The guy who just spent 2 grand at Cabellas is a fool.

[@frankrizzo4237]

Oh,,, you mean bobbers

[@laurentdesherbais9247]

Using indicator for fly fishing ? … really not in our fashion here in France … even forbidden by law ….

[@Heywoodthepeckerwood]

Yeah, it’s kinda cheating and I hate they’ve done this to this tradition. They use sinkers and bobbers. It’s gaming the system and made to skirt the laws and regulations put in place to reduce pressure in certain ecosystems. Hate it.

[@berndziesche9770]

Hi Tom, Nice video editing. But 5:40 Pete K (unintenional) is demonstrating a nice wave in his fly-leg = a tailing loop. He then talks about "moving it in a straight line". What is "it"? This is not correct anyway. "Stop at eye-level" Pete sais, but he demonstrates something else in the next forward cast. "Stopping the rod lower helps preventing tangles." What tangles? And what was the cause of those tangles? All in all a mix of unclear and partially wrong teaching of fly casting. Sorry, this is truly poor quality. Pete may want to aim for an instructor certification. I am sure he would learn a great deal about fly casting physics and how to teach properly. Regards Bernd

[@Heywoodthepeckerwood]

They’re called bobbers. No matter how much you try to change the name. People using bobbers and sinkers just like kids off a bridge. Sorry for my cynicism but, I don’t think they should be legal. There is a reason certain systems are fly fishing only and skirting the regs will only increase pressure thus increasing future restrictions.

[@patrickharris4641]

What’s your alternative? They’re bobbers sure but what’s the problem with that? What’s the problem with sinkers? At the end of the day, you’re fishing with a bunch of feathers or otherwise tied on to a hook, that’s the challenge, not necessarily getting the fly in front of the fish. Is your quarrel that it’s too effective? Then in that case dry-droppers and euro nymphing be banned because they’re easily more effective and “increase pressure” like you say.

[@risajajr]

I guess technically a sinking fly line is a sinker too. As is a nymph with a weighted bead head.

[@rodbelding9523]

Im sorry but I always laugh how fly fishermen try to sound all sophisticated with everything, saying indicator when its literally just a bobber.

[@edwheeler5908]

Anyone very familiar with fly fishing understands ta a bobber is only one function of an indicator. The indicators I usually use are too delicate to function as a bobber. It is not so much about sophistication as it understanding function.

[@ryansumners3153]

How come your not bobber fishing than Rod? If it's so easy?

[@Saahdud]

I laugh when people like you make assumptions, generalize and get triggered over trvial things like saying "Indicator" or "Bobber".