"INFANTILISES Women And Destroys Men!" | BBC's Gregg Wallace Scandal Is "OVERBLOWN", Says Journalist

[@parker-ii7fg]

The bloke is a bit crude but the media reaction has been so over top. Even Huw Edwards didn't get this much heat and his scandal was far, far more severe.

[@dianecameron137]

him saying its women of a certain age he is not lying it is women of a certain age they are putting all over the news and forums

[@lucius4556]

Good point !

[@barblessable]

That's no defence ," he's not as bad as Huw Edwards, if we don't see Wallace on screen again it's no great loss.

[@24321619]

@@barblessable If I never see another cookery show on T.V. again, it would be a great thing.

[@johnsharp8632]

When I started work in the 1960s it was common for women working on assembly lines to pull down the trousers of young apprentices. How times have changed. Some women are as sleazy as some men. Double standards are everywhere.

[@shaundadson8302]

Know that's true - have a friend who worked in a big engineering company in the late '60's as a young apprentice and he said some of the older women were scary!. Not saying I like Wallace, but is any of this even provable and are there not better things to be worrying about with the state this country is in?.

[@deskjetuk]

Exactly, happened to me in a furniture factory in Princes Risborough, I could mention so much.

[@sallywright8065]

Bring back ‘Carry On!’ . Wallace makes Sid James look progressive 😂😂😂. He’s obviously a bit of a knob but the reaction is way OTT.

[@MaddyGodinho]

As a woman myself😊 I think the "me too movement" is absolute BS. As for Hugh Edwards, what a wolf in sheep's clothing (apologies to any offended sheep) and just got a tap on the wrist. Why is there not ZERO tolerance to foreign criminals in UK

[@ArtLoverScotland]

BUT we mustn't talk about them huh

[@geoffshaw8053]

How does that offend sheep?

[@MaddyGodinho]

Hugh Edwards pretended to be something he wasn't, The wolf in Little red riding hood pretended to be something it wasn't. Both disguised themselves as their opposites eg. the wolf puts on a disguise as a sheep

[@MaddyGodinho]

@@ArtLoverScotland Precisely

[@meteorworlds]

As a woman, you’d be ok with putting up with many men in power, like Harvey Weinstein rxping young actresses or anyone you know, or even you? Seriously? No woman should report SA, and if they report, it’s ‘BS’ to you? The reporting of Weinstein was how the ‘Me Too’ started.

[@anthony5868]

The masses being distracted AGAIN!!!

[@susangarbutt7189]

Women wanted equality and now they complain when they are treated like one of the lads when it comes to bad lad banter. Make up your mind ladies there is far more serious things happening .

[@carolhughes5060]

YES...as a woman I totally agree with you.

[@Daydreamer-o1m]

Bang on 👍

[@battleofnerves]

Excellently said👍🏼

[@24321619]

Like this country turning in to some where Like North Korea. We seem to have lost all sense of reality.

[@hannahb9061]

Yes I don’t mind this kind of banter myself. If it’s going too far I just say something. Nasty misogyny from some men is something I have experienced and it is really something different and far worse than this rubbish

[@evelynvanzale4757]

It's absolutely unacceptable that a bunch of delicate middle-class women have been 'offended' by hurty words, but perfectly okay that thousands of vulnerable young girls are exploited and abused and continue to be so! Something has gone terribly wrong in our once civilised society and it doesn't seem to be abating anytime soon!!

[@LouiseIngram-hd5yc]

High five 🖐️

[@annecoombs560]

The Boots advert is far more insulting than his remarks which aredegrading to both men and white women.

[@eileentarrant9876]

And an illegal immigrant who sexually abused two women on a train gets a suspended sentence 👎👎👎😡

[@anthony5868]

@@eileentarrant9876 - and another one of my messages gets deleted 🫤

[@oliviapaul8885]

It’s ridiculous!! I’m now 58 years old , I was 18 when I went into the motor trade selling cars. The stuff that was said to me back then !! But it’s banter , you just got on with it . Not this crap now !! It’s out of control. Now I’m not a big fan of this guy , but destroying his career over this , seriously. If it’s serious stuff , like Hugh Edwards , Jimmy Savile , Rolf Harris . That’s totally different , but it’s not !! People need to get a grip seriously . And the BBC . They are just a joke. They carried on paying Edwards , gave him a pay rise . But sack this guy .

[@normsky5504]

They are, or they're,.......... but your point is correct.

[@Daydreamer-o1m]

I agree. This is OTT

[@timwingham8952]

The words opportunism, over compensation, bandwagon and double standards spring to mind.

[@murphyorama]

Agreed. This is a dog pile. Leave the guy alone unless there is something much more serious than this.

[@garyh1572]

Why are you protecting him ?? He definitely give a toss about you !!!

[@janet5846]

​@@garyh1572 Are we allowed to have an opinion or do we have to ask you?🙄

[@AndyP-b9z]

In my first job at 15yo the women in the factory were the worst offenders, it was quite a shock at that age. What a joke this story actually is.

[@lapisredux]

i can understand that..worked at the post office for a while back in the seventies as a teenager...the abuse from the female staff was off the scale the filth that came out of their mouths was far worse than anything the blokes came up with.

[@shelleyphilcox4743]

@AndyP-b9z My Dad told me about a similar experience when he was a lad starting work back in the 50s...it wasn't anything nasty or really vulgar, but their teasing really made him blush and quite uncomfortable. It made him quite concious about how uncomfortable anyone can be made to feel and to be mindful of it and not stand for it being done to anyone else by an individual or a group. My Dad had a good sense of humour and was no wilting lily even as a lad, so he thought about how bad it could be for someone with less confidence as well.

[@justjane6975]

So what about Lenny Henry and his character Theopolis P Wilderbeest. He would drag women out of the audience, sit them on the stage, gyrate around them while singing suggestive songs. Made my stomach turn…

[@searan5130]

When anyone says " let's be clear" you know nothing will happen.

[@vickydimitriou6156]

These kind of behaviours should be shut down at the time not years later. He also should know even in joke it’s not appropriate.

[@jenniferbarry5887]

Brenden O'Neil spot on.

[@donnaspeer2760]

Where was the outrage regarding Huw Edwards, Gregg Wallace only crime was his sense of humour is out dated.

[@ghostlightx9005]

Since there is no real detail on exactly what he said, how can we even judge?

[@JanH74]

Four of the labour favourite phrases are - difficult decisions - the black hole - let me be clear - my dad was a tool maker!

[@Jeanne90275]

"It was the right thing to do."😂

[@Baz63]

and the other is 'we are focusing on (fill in the gap) after 14 years of austerity'.

[@winstonsmith9424]

er 4 shurely?

[@AntonHoward-mx9sb]

You'd never make it as a Toolmaker, you can't count to four.

[@JanH74]

@@AntonHoward-mx9sb lol just put it right I only had 3 to start with then added another!

[@frankcousins7655]

But if Graham Norton, Julian Clary, any gay person says anything on TV nothing will he said

[@anthonystorey2953]

What is all this Gregg Wallace crap , is it the way the main stream media avoids what is really happening in our country? Stay safe UK 🇬🇧

[@melly9037]

I'm so sick of this idiocy. It's like ppl have reverted to being juvenile again, no common sense, just stupid.

[@Reality6789]

Brendon O’Neil speaks for the sensible people of this country. He is brilliant.

[@neveratime]

The PM must be doing cartwheels at the moment, as he has been taken out of the spotlight.

[@elainemackie1431]

Spot on Brendan

[@peterhopkins142]

Let's be clear, I really, really detest Gregg Wallace as a presenter. However imagine if the presenter was a national treasure like Billy Connolly wi' his 'willy', or Paul O'Grady's Lily Savage, or Miriam Margolyes with her charmingly obscene and grotesque anecdotes, or perhaps Stephen Fry, or lovely Lenny Henry's smutty double entendres, or Eddie/Suzi Izzard. Would any of these have provoked the same level of faux outrage that has been heaped on the barrer-boy Gregg. I doubt it.

[@teeg80]

Depends if it's general or directed towards, imo

[@angusmacmillan5365]

Absolutely right!

[@ianweston6919]

Brendan O'Neill. Quite brilliant. Eloquent, measured, precise and utterly sensible. Would make a brilliant politician for Reform UK. 👍

[@CalisthenicsWork]

The most ridiculous is Mel Sykes, who says Greg asked her if models eat!

[@rioj14]

Can you make Brendan O’Neil a regular commentator on Talk. He always talks sense.

[@pallasathena1369]

This is sad, because if you can take the heat of the kitchen - the skills you come out with are priceless. I had hard times and went to pot wash - wild chef, lunatic sous chef and serving staff who learnt to toughen up. We all saw the best and worst of each other, banter and tears... Would do it again in a heart beat.

[@merlin8514]

From what we have been told so far Greg has done nothing wrong 🤷‍♂️ other than assuming that the people he was talking to were adults lmao 🤣

[@michelecameron6920]

When I was young Greig would have been known as a lounge lizard and we learned as girls how to manage him. I cannot believe that women now have lost that skill and don't know how to put a bloke, who is out of control, in his place. Women and men both lose out.

[@emmalinabradbury8724]

Was a political journalist with lobby credentials, I was young and there was banter, suggestons we either laughed it off or replied back even sometimes slapped his face if it was gropey sexual! But we dealt with it, There is serious sexual assault a criminal act but making everything a sexual offence diminishes the real sex crimes.

[@sandramunroe5073]

I worked in an office in the 1980's and I managed to deal with this stuff. I really don't see how this can upset women to the extent that it has. You have to deal with these things instantly if you don't like it. Not years later; that doesn't make sense.

[@janetcarswell2178]

This situation with Greg is absolutely ridiculous 🙄

[@jeancampbell7083]

Greg isn't a creep just a normal adult man

[@sheerwoodsquirrel]

Grow up ladies. Lewd behaviour isn't assault. There are better ways to deal with men who slip into bad-boy behaviour. The BBC is overheating and throwing Gregg under the bus but I can't help but ask if this is actually a deflection. deflection

[@RonJames-rb7eg]

To expect the BBC to be moralistic is like trying to get shite out of a rocking horse.

[@Gravadlax-ki7rh]

Good discussion and two tier policing is a reality.

[@roslynj5263]

Leave Gregg alone. He shouldn’t lose his job. Gregg has done nothing wrong apart from being a bit lewd. This is not news! It’s all out of proportion !

[@Phillip-p1e]

Don't see his co stars coming out to defend him....

[@lapisredux]

and yet huw edwards keeps his pension

[@alil3602]

These days I always seem to be asking myself what's it a diversion for?

[@joanlose608]

Why can't these women grow up stop whinging and start sticking up for themselves stop condoning unacceptable behaviour, shame the perpetrators in front of others.

[@seandelap8587]

I'm still yet to see what he said thats supposed to be so bad

[@AdWy-rg2ry]

All for a few smutty jokes, get over it 🙄

[@terencewhite8105]

Having worked with women during my life,they are no angels in the workplace and gave-as good as they got,can someone explain that if these women were so traumatised many years ago,why did they not address their grievances then,I am sure if my wife had been in a situation she was not happy with,I would have dealt with it,we live in a country that has gone mad with people being sent to prison for saying something some snowflake does not like,whilst the things that concern the Electorate are not addressed,a totally inept government as were their predecessors ,totally ignoring the people who put them in power

[@garyneville1141]

We have apparently lost the ability to tell a person to shut up and don't tell that kind of joke in female company. And also why does it take so long to complain, followed by numerous complainants. Do they all meet somewhere and plan the downfall of certain individuals??

[@nc1234-v6z]

14 years to complain, why now

[@Daydreamer-o1m]

I think if you don't complain at the time then there absolutely should be a time limit in which to lodge a complaint. It's like women use these complaints like a weapon against men.

[@lespetitsmoulins]

The trouble is, these women probably laughed at the so called offensive jokes at the time and said nothing, shame on them and do your self a favour and get a life 😡😡

[@catherinegriessel56]

Exactly pathetic

[@lespetitsmoulins]

@ I’ve just watched a montage of clips from bake off and some from Nigella, I couldn’t find anything wrong with Greggs jokes, in fact quite funny, typical of quick witted London banter! Then there’s Nigella, ow my god, if ever there was an example of double meaning, that’s a true example, “oozing cream on my buns” and much worse, brilliant!!!

[@jamesburke527]

Ive worked in majority female workplace Its where I received a lot of non pc banter it was part of growing up and realising it works both ways.

[@user-ho8ds7my7l]

Leave Wallace alone .

[@youarewhatyouare]

Nonsense allegations with Nonsense words from Nonsense people

[@christinet5419]

It's pathetic. "Hurty words" stuff. For god's sake. I could accuse every single boy who was at university with me of behaving inappropriately at parties, if I was as mean and nasty as the women-accusers. Wait till your sons grow up...

[@OliverKitkat]

Unless there is things we don’t no sounds like a witch hunt too me

[@michaelwilkinson3296]

IF there are sexual claims bought against someone , why are the police dealing with it , rather then keep it under there wing and keeping it quite for 13 years , if it was delt with when first reported and sorted , i think woman would feel better rather than having to wait 13 years . If police investergate it will take another 5 years and use a lot more police time ?????

[@cindyfaulkner5725]

Those in Politics are not touched by these crimes, they live in large gated or protected properties while the rest of us are 9n the receiving end.

[@Trebor74]

Someone said something years ago,now om going to bring it up and get him done. Seems unfair.

[@IamNotanumber-z3j]

Totally agree - a certain individual I know keeps complaining about another staff member - and her wording is she’s difficult ( yes it’s one female viciously bullying another ) - destroying this other poor woman who is just trying to get on with her job.

[@AntonHoward-mx9sb]

The planet has gone insane since covid

[@Whiskey0880]

Since covid?? Lol! You haven't been paying attention.

[@AntonHoward-mx9sb]

@Whiskey0880 it's always been a bit crazy but all this weakness and idiocy seems to have knocked it up a gear

[@WendyHoltby]

I love Greg all the bad press he is getting is overblown you are Masterchief you make it totally enjoyable it needs you so do the BBC

[@gerryburns9090]

Snowflake, woke, you name it has got to the ridiculous stage.

[@pedromancenithe3rd]

And Allsopp can hold her own when it comes to questionable remarks. I thought she of all people, had a thicker skin. This kind of finger pointing is only going to get worse just because they have a dislike for someone.

[@danielpickess2027]

100% overcompensating for past. Look we're so on to this😮

[@royhill7342]

We need Trump

[@Nick-q8k]

Why ,he was a chaotic and incompetent president the first time,and had to pay 7 million dollars for defamation and sexual assault ,two impeachments and one insurrection.

[@dresterGTAIVplayer]

Turn the heat off to save money? more like can't turn it on because got no money? ha

[@naemasufi]

I agree with a lot of what you say. You are not taking into account how dangerous and closed down our lives as women are becoming. Toilets changing rooms, sports. All things we used to take for granted. Now all that has been swept away.

[@rumpoh8039]

DIRTY OLD MAN BEEN GETTING AWAY WITH IT FOR DECADES

[@TheGazza636]

Poor old Gregg he may of said a few fruity things years ago but don’t ruin the guy career And what about his family ? If he’s gone of our tv I’ll miss his presence

[@mumblesmoaner8996]

I think Greg by using the phrase “middle class women of a certain age” perfectly describes the DEI - didn’t earn it type the blight of the workplace. Poor behaviour from Wallace but where were these “strong” women who want the big important jobs ?? 🤷‍♂️ nowhere & over 10 years later probably for attention bring up hurty words pathetic 😤

[@normsky5504]

Bernard Manning, Roy Chubby Brown and many others made their careers out of telling dirty jokes. At least it was of camera, or is he supposed to be charming all the time?

[@AstonColey]

That's four I believe but spot on! Boy did TTK's dad make a tool.

[@redset11]

I feel so sorry for Greg- as an older woman i grew up with constant banter and innuendos from male colleagues and one just put it down to male stupidity. What a load of pathetic snowflakes the younger generation are - there really are so many more important matters to worry about. Brendan is correct about the different way working class men and women are treated from the middle class. .

[@leswelch3458]

The BBC turns into the Sun front page news

[@Maisie343]

Agree so much.

[@sandramunroe5073]

It is all to do with celebrities. They matter more than other people in some peoples eyes.

[@dianecameron137]

WOMEN IN A WORK PLACE CAN DO THE SAME BUT WE DONT HEAR ABOUT THAT HE MAY BE GOT IT WRONG BUT SOMETIMES ITS BANTER WE ARE LOSING OUR HUMOUR SO MUCH NOW

[@pauldiplock205]

All these women are complicit. Had they said something to him directly at the time it happened it would have stopped him before his behaviour got worse for him and those offended over time. I switch off when people come out of the woodwork years later. Brendan is correct about the grooming gang scandal….. we all know why the protagonists were left alone for so long and its nothing to do with working class girls being the victim.

[@lks6248]

It is like women aren’t allowed to GROW UP and manage their interpersonal relationships. It’s all about running to teacher! My mother taught me (a daughter) how to keep men in their proper place! 😊

[@doubleooh7337]

i don't think fakenews channels should ever use the word journalists or journalism, you don't have any!

[@PresidentGerard]

The BBC is overcompensating for its past failures. The guest is exactly right.

[@Talboy-p4e]

Brenden Excellent journalist Common sense speaking always Out spoken speaking Knowing his knowledge and facts True well said TV talk should be our government Common sense speaking Bring back England again ❤❤

[@dianecameron137]

one woman said she thought he touched someone so she is making her own mind up with no proof she never asked the person if he touched them did she so why put it out there

[@earlcollins9310]

What celebrity hasn’t said or done something at some stage they wouldn’t like known 🤔

[@andystreet4022]

If this kind of behaviour is no longer morally tolerated, then eventually it will be eradicated. Unfortunately, there is a political element who are unprepared for time to take it's course and are determined to break career's and frighten an older population into submission.

[@stephenbowker824]

Bring back Freddy Starr 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@bobhope9646]

BS against greg while silence against huw edwards, where are peoples morals nowadays

[@ianjohnson01]

So he’s mentioned a few dirty jokes, get over it. I genuinely believe everyone who has made a complaint against Gregg have said worse.

[@vico7482]

Starmer's favourite words are "Lets be clear" says it all the bloody time! No mate, why don't you be clear, you make no sense in anything you and your party do!

[@pixie3458]

I think the Gregg story reflects the workplace and tolerance of distasteful behaviour. I experienced inappropriate behaviour from a very senior executive back in the 80's. As I would not comply, I was dealt with through a trumped up disciplinary. If I didn't sign, I was to be dismissed. I fought back with a lawsuit.. Not sure I would do that again, it's very costly.

[@24321619]

It does all seem point towards yet another severe case of OCD in the minds of the accusers.

[@LouiseIngram-hd5yc]

Over blown ? 🤦‍♀️ just a tad.

[@deankirby7237]

People take themselves far too seriously- especially successful women of a 'certain age' 😅

[@RonJames-rb7eg]

Incleasingly damaging

[@christinebakewell3475]

So how does he tell the truth without being accused of being misogynistic or ageist?

[@SusanOttewell]

Isn't there two guys.out there walking the streets who broke .policewoman nose! The government sooner go for a guy who tells sexual jokes................

[@BarryRobertson-m5g]

When I was working in Sheffield I had gone to a McDonald's for a coffee. Used the shop as drive thru was mobbed. When i walked into the shop a woman was kicking off that McDonald's refused her breakfast products as it was 5 mins past 11. After a few minutes of shouting the lady called the police 😂😂😂😂 all because breakfast at McDonald's had finished 5 mins before she walked in 😂😂😂😂

[@roslynclark6690]

When I was young and worked with men, we all told dirty jokes, people worked together and you know what, I felt those men had your back, we didn’t take offence just because someone told a joke.

[@ronkemp2401]

It's a smokescreen for all the crap that Starmer has caused.

[@SusanBell-dl5gr]

This is just a distraction from other things going on, I used to like work place banter, and many women can be worst than any man, you just need to judge the people around you, also if older than a few weeks it should be old news, if it is bad report it immediately or STFU.