Infinite Lethal Setups vs the Infinite Lucker | Firebat Hearthstone ft. Zalae & Gallon

[@Kandall05161]

I always love Zalae's insightful commentary such as "If he bloodlusted you'd die" against a Hunter. Never change, Zalae.

[@TeppiaxD]

I love videos like this because youtubers always put up videos of them pulling off that 1/10000 situation but I like seeing it from the opponent's view, my all time favorite Firebat videos are the one where his opponent pulled out 2 bloatbat poisons, and the one with the ooze for his shadowblade.

[@NOXsaiv]

To be fair it was a long very boring game and then double bloatbat happened

[@t.pisani8239]

Totally ignored that microtech controller conversation.

[@danellboy5757]

3:44 "That might be a rat trap. So let's hit him in the face to play around it" ... "I've only played one card dude." 🤣 dead

[@ericli9611]

Tbh, I’m salty about this

[@user-zg3gh8xg9v]

Just a tad bit, yes. Only because it isn't happening to me that I'm not totally bummed out by it.

[@lesiegelad]

I wasn't sure about keeping scalehide in my midrange hunter deck, but I guess it's staying lmao

[@Robert-xt7sn]

lesiegelad Scalehide Direfenzy is THE hunter combo, bruh. Can’t take that shit out.

[@KingDoopliss20]

It's a solid 1 of in that deck imo. And depending on where you are on ladder a 2 of.

[@ArjanSangraa]

1:17 Petition for new fire at scamaz emote

[@uncleogee604]

This is the hearthstone version of edging for 12 minutes

[@levireynolds9594]

What are they talking about at the beginning?

[@rrteppo]

I am commenting just to hear the answer.

[@franetrain7825]

Same. Firebat was fined?

[@thegreatwal1224]

Levi Reynolds there was some scandal where firebat entered an open cup after he was already in grand masters which was against the rules. Some loser tweeted about it saying firebat should be punished and he responded saying that it was an honest mistake and disqualified himself (letting the guy he faced in the first round have a win) after he found out.

[@shivdmanwii]

@@frejjo7841 aren't zalae and purple gms too? could have sworn they were coopting last night.

[@h.tranquilin]

They can coop because they are already grandmasters. "Boosting", according to blizzard's rules, happens when you coop with a non-grandmaster player that has 1000 legend points or less.

[@ryanbaley3443]

Bring back poisonous missile launcher! Bring back the devastation!

[@nickmagrick7702]

4:40 I swear dire frenzy targets and bombs go to the top of the deck way more often than they should on average.

[@lancejohnson3278]

Brutal dude, I’d be flipping tables

[@Britishpulp]

i come for the pepper. i stay for the bat.

[@DaveReviewsThings]

Wait what? What were you guys talking about fines?

[@bigboy8338]

Ye wtf?

[@smurtle7959]

If you break tourney rules for a tourney they take money off your winnings

[@bigboy8338]

@@smurtle7959 Fair enough. What rule did bat break?

[@bbasics]

"Nobody gets kicked out of GM, we just get fined", oh how little you knew at the time...

[@nickmagrick7702]

0:20 wait im really confused, why are people being fined thousands of dollars?

[@bigboy8338]

Ye wtf?

[@TrungNguyen-is6lq]

How to rng your way to high legend

[@alexanderding606]

That opponent is my friend, he played pretty well lmao.

[@Oysteriod]

i very much appreciate that this was released exactly at 9:00

[@nickmagrick7702]

feels like my games when im trying to climb from rank 5 to legend

[@zom8680]

Lol good to know I'm not the only one who says "here comes the BIG ASS" everytime someone plays Zul'jin :)

[@ribqahisabsent]

What happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object??

[@williammiller5975]

We need a kill command but for mech synergy 😂

[@UatuOmega]

Is Firebat ever going to be allowed out without his handlers?

[@Boyzby]

Imagine if that game was played for money. Would be the most depressing thing.

[@oneofmany01]

Stranglethorn Tiger looks decent on paper but I feel like every time I try to put it in a deck it ends up sucking.

[@strongside4565]

Probably because it is slow and unnecessary. Stealth is mediocre if it doesn't allow something busted to happen after the fact.

[@leonlozinskiy3673]

I have like a 70% winrate against rogue with midrange hunter just because of dire frenzy + scalehide.

[@bigboy8338]

Cleeeeeean Bat.

[@Robert-xt7sn]

This game made me extremely angry. Like, how does that even happen

[@ilovecaulk2542]

PhyschoBoB Bobbinthon when people are so focused on hitting face, they forget to play around stuff

[@tigermeny]

Play around alot of low % scenarios make you lose more than win :|

[@ilovecaulk2542]

Syncz but not playing around them at all makes you lose too. Gotta have some balance instead of all face or all trading.

[@jordanperry5]

decklist?

[@tristanseaver9054]

2 + 2 < 2 + 3

[@geebanhunter]

Check mate !

[@strongside4565]

Dire Frenzy for HoF 2019. Midrange decks with infinite value aren't fun.

[@TheSquareOnes]

I've heard that token druid has a slightly better winrate over tempo rogue right now but if that's true I'd say that's just an example of why you shouldn't clutch statistics too closely. They're both pretty simple decks to play but token druid is definitely the easier of the two so that means more bad players are going to be able to get better results out of it, and rogue is the shiny new hotness right now that everyone is playing meaning that there is a wider range of player skill being represented in its data. Taken together this means that more bad players are playing rogue and putting up bad numbers than there are bad players playing token druid and putting up mediocre numbers, meaning that token druid should come out looking better on paper even if tempo rogue is actually the more powerful deck when played optimally.

[@dudem1310]

Wait why would he get fined this is not boosting??? Isnt boosting when you play against a friend and one of you throw the game?

[@TheSebGG]

That's wintrading. Boosting is when a high level player helps someone less good get to high ratings. So let's say if firebat starts spectating my games and talking me through plays to get me to high legend, then he is boosting me.

[@Iliketacos091]

@@TheSebGG Yeah, when are we gonna start fining football coaches for talking their team through a play! Shit's ridiculously unfair.

[@capek416]

oh god firebat... please dont shave

[@SporeTres]

Firedad is gone, get ready for Firebabe.

[@WMDistraction]

2 + 2 = 5, duh

[@nickmagrick7702]

does zalae even play the game anymore? Or does he just log onto skype or w/e you guys are using and spectate firebats games as part of his daily routine?

[@strongside4565]

Yeah. He won a major tournament just a few days ago.

[@ulisesgarcia3018]

First in the world 😭 feel like the 2014 Hearthstone Champion

[@shinkamui]

so you're not into competition anymore? kappa

[@Rave.-]

Nah you just played that really wrong. Team was right.

[@HappyVtuberFan]

Willies

[@nickmagrick7702]

what idiots think that token druid is more powerful than rouge? Aggro druid is a one trick pony, rouge has the most powerful removal, aggro, and versatility with random card generation. The only thing I can think of is that people arnt thinking it through when they play a deck that has a zero percent win rate against token druid. Like, some of the worst decks have unbeatable match ups, thats the pay off for going hard into one strat that isnt great all around. Rouge literally just beats everything with like an over 45% win rate and 60% on ave. A class has never been so insane, maybe one deck but not a whole class.

[@HippopotamusPencil]

You're right about everything you say.... except that isn't how you spell rogue.

[@nickmagrick7702]

@@HippopotamusPencil yeah so im not the best speller

[@HippopotamusPencil]

@@nickmagrick7702 I can't see any other mistakes, which makes you definitely an a-okay speller (you even managed versatility, you stone-cold killer!). However I am now thinking I need make-up to play Hearthstone, so I shouldn't praise you too much.

[@nickmagrick7702]

@@HippopotamusPencil lol, I don't get that but ok.

[@gawin11111]

some draw rngs...

[@zf5656]

Token Druid? EZ, just play your 45% aggro mage

[@Mr1Nate7]

TIL 2 + 2 > 2 + 3

[@Turtley952]

Lol

[@wolfgangamadeusmozart3775]

The real problem in this midrange hunter is zuljin, nothing else. Midrange decks are supposed to run out of both threats and cards that can generate value. Once they play zuljin, its like game starts for them once again, only more powerful. Same shit for control warrior, bam play hero card and you are up and running again. They printed these dumbass hero cards when there were other hero cards so they didnt outshine but now they fucking maw down other classes with crazy value generation. Hope it doesnt take blizz too long to hof these motherfuckers and never print another hero card. Ever.

[@HippopotamusPencil]

Zul'jin barely generates value, something which could be greatly reduced by eliminating the twinspell interaction. Of the three hero cards, Zul'jin is the least silly, and it is worth noting that most midrange decks through the ages had some form of value generation. Think of things like drakonid operative, and even nine lives in this very deck. Furthermore the prominence and power of rogue demolishes your argument entirely.

[@wolfgangamadeusmozart3775]

What? Barely? Casting bestial wrath, summoning wyvern which summons two and effectively giving you two more in your hand, dire frenzy, two companions, all the dogshit secrets, at worst destroying an enemy minion, two marked shot generated spells... Barely my ass. Have you seen hunter winrates? Fucking 56% as of this moment. While rogue sits at 51%. Nothing you say “demolishes” my arguement. They will clearly nerf rogue and even as a rogue I’m more than fine with it, but if they leave these dumbass game changers alone I’ll see everyone crying about hunter and warrior only meta.

[@strongside4565]

@@HippopotamusPencil Zul'jin generates 6 overstatted minions, destroys 2 random minions, fills the board with 5/5 rush minions and generates 2 random spells most of the time. It literally beats control decks by itself. Warrior can't bring it to fatigue and all of those added cards mean that bombs aren't being drawn. Hunter is an aggro deck that generates "infinite" value in that you run out of ways to deal with giant minions long before they run out of giant minions. A deck full of 5 mana 8/8 rush minions and 1 mana 4/4 chargers is incredible value.

[@HippopotamusPencil]

@@wolfgangamadeusmozart3775 It demolishes your argument because your reactionary whining about hero cards is trumped entirely by the fact that the deck which is the best, according to expert testimony as seen in this video, does not have said type of card. It should be abundantly clear that the purpose of a midrange deck is to have cards which are highly efficient, i.e. have a lot of value for their mana cost, and that running out of threats is dependent on the tools control decks have available rather than the midrange deck you despise, thus the fact that the hero card is painful is incidental rather than causing the issue you state. It may be that nothing in my comment demolishes your argument eloquently enough. Thankfully you do that yourself by pointing out all the cards that actually do make Zul'jin busted, thus providing the alternative, correct explanation in contrast to your first comment: The cards that hunter have are too strong. The hero is merely the face of the much deeper issue with hunter, namely the cards that were printed for hunter this set, particularly twinspell wyvern and marked shot. The reason I say Zul'jin isn't the problem with confidence is because it does not generate value as time goes on. It is one big slamdunk of value, predicated on all the other value generating plays they have made earlier on, kind of like adding Yogg or N'zoth to a midrange deck. Hagatha and Dr Boom both generate continuous value as the game goes on. Zul'jin does not, therefore you are wrong.

[@HippopotamusPencil]

@@strongside4565 At least Mozart wasn't stupid enough to claim midrange hunter is an aggro deck. You're not even wrong in a way that could be educational to discuss.

[@aaa-ng2bn]

i mean you forgot to play around rat so you kinda deserve this...

[@synergiedizz3641]

This happened to me just a few hours ago. Disgusting mofo kept top decking buffed scale hides and escaping my lethal setups. He eventually won... bich!

[@SmurphFe]

token druid just feels way worse to lose to than rogues every turn face damage... a tiny lil board of 1-1ss suddenly are 7-2s and ur dead

[@GentlemanNietzsche]

That means you let enough of their board stick between turns if token can kill you that way. Either you didn't draw your removal or you don't have enough spells/minions that actively control the board. Rogue burst comes straight from hand with no way to counter besides not losing HP and having enough taunt minions in the way.

[@strongside4565]

Yeah I staunchly disagree. Waggle pick is completely busted with the pirate package and you end up just taking 10+ damage every turn until you die while they remove your taunt that costs you your whole turn for 2 mana.