Remington Revolving Carbine

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@michaelwarenycia7588
@michaelwarenycia7588 Күн бұрын
I'm starting to notice how the de-monetization makes your content relaxing to watch compared to a lot of KZbin channels today where one always has to be hitting "skip" on ads and, on top of that, there'll be perhaps 2 sponsors shilled for in a 15-20 minute clip in the clip itself.
@InrangeTv
@InrangeTv Күн бұрын
Yep. ☺️
@Frieza287
@Frieza287 15 сағат бұрын
uBlock Origin is a lifesaver!
@whosdat81
@whosdat81 Күн бұрын
The cylinder swap scene in Pale Rider was pretty badass.
@InrangeTv
@InrangeTv Күн бұрын
It was.
@tylertapp131
@tylertapp131 Күн бұрын
It was pretty smooth in hell on wheels aswell.
@peppermillers8361
@peppermillers8361 Күн бұрын
Historically accurate or not, it's awesome.
@David0lyle
@David0lyle 20 сағат бұрын
@@peppermillers8361yea I keep hearing that it wasn’t historically accurate, the thing is, the very first Walker revolvers actually DID come with a spare cylinder. I understand we don’t have records for the sale of the separate cylinders but I simply don’t believe that NO ONE carried them.
@craighansen7594
@craighansen7594 9 сағат бұрын
I do not doubt that spare loaded cylinders were carried, just not very often. I do think most anyone who carried a spare loaded cylinder would not cap it. Would there have been a way to keep moisture out of the open percussion cap nipples? I have many times considered a replica Remington and some spare cylinders to replicate the movie rig.
@aWildZentagram
@aWildZentagram Күн бұрын
"... when the Civil War went into remission..." Darkly hilarious, thank you.
@timothybeal799
@timothybeal799 22 сағат бұрын
Well put!! I love Karl's takes on history!
@olddirtbiker5088
@olddirtbiker5088 Күн бұрын
I have one of these Ubertis. It does have one major thing going for it. It is a very beautiful gun, the wood, brass and bluing.
@TheWolfsnack
@TheWolfsnack Күн бұрын
I had one years ago.....sheesh...like i was 20 or so....first shot....I carried a black powder tattoo aside my thumb for s couple of years...I learned to shoot it properly right after that, but not the most pleasant gun to shoot.
@Rendo86
@Rendo86 Күн бұрын
i personally liked the slope of the ramrod, its' mainly for the aesthetic it gives to the gun
@devanshvatsal4128
@devanshvatsal4128 Күн бұрын
1:34 got me wtf'ing when he just chucked the revolver to the side like that 😅
@r.coburn3344
@r.coburn3344 Күн бұрын
First impression, it looks like a beautiful monstrosity from a video game I would play waaaaaay too often.
@claptrap4084
@claptrap4084 Күн бұрын
It's a carbine version of the Remington New Model Army 1858. It was made around 1863, but the 1858 in the name is really just referencing a patent. I own a reproduction made by Uberti, and I dropped a conversion cylinder in it to shoot .45LC and it works great
@Wavy_Gravy
@Wavy_Gravy Күн бұрын
Hunt!
@jtilton5
@jtilton5 Күн бұрын
I think Kurt Russell had one in The Hateful Eight. Though I don't think he fired it.
@landenmorton4543
@landenmorton4543 Күн бұрын
Hunt Showdown has a few revolver carbines, including a "conversion" carbine that isn't that far off from this.
@Dood-vogeltje
@Dood-vogeltje Күн бұрын
This happens when you say yes on all the upgrades in the gunstore.
@santerinurminen7909
@santerinurminen7909 Күн бұрын
You're right! There are some people who really enjoy your black powder content! Thank you for featuring the Remington new model army! Would love to see also a video just shooting the regular revolver. I know it's just a shorter version of the carbine but still. Like you said, the second most used revolver in the civil war (after the Colt factory exploded). I know the Remington was always regarded as the "second best" to a Colt, and a Colt works better with black powder and so for. I love them both. For some reason the Remington has always looked better to me. Meaby it's the Remingtons more "modern" and "stronger" look. I would love to own both the Colt(s) and Remington(s) one day. I'm just scared I won't get a permit (yes we need a permit in my country) because I'm not member of a gun club and we can't use handguns for hunting. Sadly the attitude here is that you can't just own a gun for the fun of it. You have to have proof that you "use it actively and in a proper manner". That being either having a gun club membership or a hunting license.
@dark2023-1lovesoni
@dark2023-1lovesoni 18 сағат бұрын
A lot of countries have exceptions for black powder muzzle loaders, where they aren't considered serious weapons but are instead regulated more like a relic or an airgun. I agree that the Remington 1858 derivatives are better than Colt 1851s. The Remington *_is_* stronger with the top strap, has a MUCH easier to remove cylinder, is better balanced, and has a sword deflector built into the bottom of the loading arm (the sloped ridge).
@alun7006
@alun7006 13 сағат бұрын
Then join a club!
@adotare9180
@adotare9180 Күн бұрын
I’d be willing to bet that the cylinder “hot swap” would be functionally impossible in an actual use scenario after more than two cylinders with all of that fouling. It can be hard enough to get a cylinder out of better designed percussion guns after a day of shooting when you have a workbench and tools. People who think swapping was a thing haven’t shot enough black powder.
@matteoorlandi856
@matteoorlandi856 Күн бұрын
True. But it's a Lost cause. You can try to explain them that you cannot Simply buy spare cilinders and that every cilinder should be handfitted to the gun anyway. They are not mags. But their brain Simply refuses to let the info trough.
@Varadiio
@Varadiio 18 сағат бұрын
@@matteoorlandi856 So many depictions of
@cheddar-bob-9090
@cheddar-bob-9090 Күн бұрын
Saw the blunderbuss video, bought a blunderbuss. Saw the handgone video, bought a handgone. Saw the revolving rifle: aahaa! I beat you to it this time!
@kenibnanak5554
@kenibnanak5554 Күн бұрын
The first demonstration of the Colt Patterrson carbine to the US Army cost a favorite Command Master Sgt his forearm when it chain fired which made S. Colt personna non-grata for years and if not for the Seminole Indians we would probably have never heard of Colt after that.
@MrSloika
@MrSloika Күн бұрын
The chain fire problem is easily mitigated. A dab of grease over the ball seals the chamber and has the added benefit of softening the fouling. Alternately you can place a felt wad over the powder charge before ramming in the ball.
@Angel9932
@Angel9932 20 сағат бұрын
@@MrSloika My uncle used to dab some Crisco on top of the bullets as a part of loading his Colt Navy replica. That was the exact reason he provided me when I was 16 years old.
@INeverMetAGunIDidntLike
@INeverMetAGunIDidntLike Күн бұрын
To extract the sticky spent cartridges from the cylinder, I lower the rammer lever and punch out the spent cases with the end of the rammer lever.
@terryschiller2625
@terryschiller2625 Күн бұрын
Yes another InRangeTV firearm history video! I enjoy these very much Karl. Thank you Sir! Thanks for all your hard work and time you are appreciated!🤠🇺🇲
@robinshull6510
@robinshull6510 Күн бұрын
Clint Eastwood made swapping cylinders look easy. I wonder how many times he had to shoot those scenes where you see him swapping his cylinders out.
@nigelbarker8726
@nigelbarker8726 Күн бұрын
Tight new guns are tricky. With a worn hand spring and a sloppy cylinder, they swap pretty easily.
@Varadiio
@Varadiio 18 сағат бұрын
@@nigelbarker8726 I would have loosened up those tolerances with a polishing wheel. It's worked wonders on bolt-actions, especially Mosins and the like. They probably did something similar.
@mpetersen6
@mpetersen6 Күн бұрын
I remember seeing these in the Gander Mountain catalog as Cattleman's Carbines. Gander Mountain was located about 20 miles from me.
@frankhinkle5772
@frankhinkle5772 18 сағат бұрын
Thanks for showing this Remington Carbine with us.
@Gustav000
@Gustav000 Күн бұрын
Used to do Civil War reenactment and I carried 3 extra cylinders for my pistols, when looking for some type of holder for my extra cylinders we also could find no patterns or historical examples to copy so my dad had to custom make me a cartridge box that had a wooden floor and dowels sticking up to sit them on so they didn't roll around or have the chance of striking a cap.
@wormyboot
@wormyboot 19 сағат бұрын
I love all your black powder videos. My wife and I watch every single one.
@DanCostello-g8z
@DanCostello-g8z Күн бұрын
I have 2 Pietta '58 Remington pistols and both of them require a field strip and wipe down after about 2 cylinders of firing. The fouling would make swapping cylinders mid fight quite difficult.
@xriz00
@xriz00 Күн бұрын
The obvous fix is a Nagant M1895 style revolving carbine, lol.
@AtomHeartMother68
@AtomHeartMother68 Күн бұрын
It's a really fun novelty/ conversation piece at the range. I shoot mine with a 45 colt conversion with smokeless reloads. Ironically, i tend to get more hits with this at a hundred yards vs my 1860 henry in the standing position. The henry is tough for me because it has like a 10 moa front sight blade. Covers up small targets at distance. Lol
@bluemonday09
@bluemonday09 Күн бұрын
Flux raider of the 1860's
@alexeytoptygin7581
@alexeytoptygin7581 3 сағат бұрын
Thanks for spending so much time on the history of these and how they got used/carried.
@Schlachtschule
@Schlachtschule Күн бұрын
Two things: If you put your thumb on the hammer and pull it back slightly as you push the cylinder out, it is much easier to do than putting it on half cock. Second, you can use the loading lever (the front end, not the rammer) to drive the spent cases out.
@villev8844
@villev8844 Күн бұрын
Something makes me overlook any possible weaknesses in this concept. It just looks so amazing. It is so small and nimble looking that it creates an image that makes lever action rifles look big and heavy. Lee Van Cleef killed a villain fleeing on horseback with this rifle in the movie for a few dollars more.
@alun7006
@alun7006 12 сағат бұрын
That was a stocked Colt SAA pistol, not quite the same thing.
@villev8844
@villev8844 12 сағат бұрын
@alun7006 Then I remembered wrong. Anyway, a really cool gun. Uberti or Pietta has also produced a Colt SAA based revolver carbine. One like that in 357 mag would be awesome.
@KathrynLiz1
@KathrynLiz1 18 сағат бұрын
I have owned two of these, both reliable and very accurate. Both Ubertis, although the newer one came with a very weak mainspring (I'm a gun smith so I just made a stronger one as per my matching pistols). I use mine for 10 round rifle stages, swapping the cylinder after the first 4 rounds. As for the "grenade" of a spare cylinder, that's virtually impossible; the caps are recessed and it would need just the right sized rock at just the right angle to fire it. Changing cylinder takes a bit of a knack, the secret is to roll the cylinder in and out to avoid the hand catching. If the cylinder gap is correct, there's no issue with 'spitting', my first one had an excessive gap and was a problem (corrected by me but would have been a problem for some) while the second one is fine with closer tolerances.... The two hands overlapping hold is very steady. For the cylinder pin, the right lube is essential. Use that and you can shoot most of the day without re-lubing, as with the pistols. I am rather fond of my carbines, but they do have limitations.....
@alun7006
@alun7006 12 сағат бұрын
Fascinating stuff. I love the weird things that happen when people are trying to solve new problems (even if it's just patent-dodging) and this is a great example. Thanks for all you do, Karl - very happy to be a patreon supporter even from continents away. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@GhostKnapping
@GhostKnapping Күн бұрын
watching you and ian mostly you lol has gotten me into black powder i got an old bacon 2nd model revolver and I'm about to go into building a kibler rifle. anyways keep up the good work man.
@andyedwards9222
@andyedwards9222 Күн бұрын
Thank you for showing and enthusing about more old west firearms. Love your historical videos.
@mainer2123
@mainer2123 Күн бұрын
Another great video. Thank you. I have done quite a bit of "fiddling" at the range reloading my revolver.
@ArcanisUrriah
@ArcanisUrriah Күн бұрын
I like blackpowder stuff. I like history. Thanks for your videos.
@JohnTBlock
@JohnTBlock Күн бұрын
Frontiersmen had so many cheap surplus rifled muskets available after the war, that struck a much heavier blow on game or Indians, it's almost surprising the market supported these guns. A Henry gave you more shots of the same power as the revolver, and could be held less clumsily....
@KR-hg8be
@KR-hg8be Күн бұрын
These handguns were really, really cheap after the Civil War, and Henry was not.
@MrSloika
@MrSloika Күн бұрын
The Henry has the mag tube and barrel all milled out of a single block of steel. The Henry has no hand guard and the cartridges are loaded into the tube by dropping then down into the tube after the mag follower is compressed by pulling up on an external tab. This follower tab travels down the mag tube as the cartridges are fired. The shooter has to move his hand out of the way or the follower will be blocked and the cartridges will not be loaded into the action. In Cowboy Action shooting this maneuver is called the 'Henry Hop'.
@JohnTBlock
@JohnTBlock Күн бұрын
@MrSloika well aware...
@Intelligence_Failure
@Intelligence_Failure Күн бұрын
carrying loaded additional revolver drums still does sound very practical to me - you would just need purpose-made cases that hold the drums and shield the percussion caps. it could easily be made safer to carry than the loaded gun itself with exposed caps.
@melissasmess2773
@melissasmess2773 19 сағат бұрын
Rossi Circuit judge is the modern version and they added blast shields to protect your forearm. Putting a Taurus pistol grip on it made them popular in California for anti carjacking weapons years ago. Double action empty's it in 2.6 seconds I read. Thanks for the great history lesson.🔫🤠👍
@redsky8509
@redsky8509 22 сағат бұрын
I used mine at E.O.T. one year in the Wild West Show, and yes it was fun.
@misiekmisiek7296
@misiekmisiek7296 Күн бұрын
Loving it. Great video as usual. Thank you for everything you do and everyone that are participating or supporting you. And thank you as well for the details too often missed or never given.
@siwone532
@siwone532 Күн бұрын
I love the aesthetic of the revolving carbine. It's a shame they aren't so great in practice.
@cplinstructor
@cplinstructor 16 сағат бұрын
We know that the Texas Rangers carried spare cylinders for their Pattersons in at least one engagement. We know that Colt offered the Patterson with extra cylinders. There are multiple suggestions that the Pony Express did that as well. Also, one of the selling points for the two piece cartridge conversions was that since the conversion was just a replacement cylinder one could retain their percussion cylinder to use if they were not able to get cartridges, which means that they had extra cylinders and could conceivably have carried them.
@kimamato5196
@kimamato5196 Күн бұрын
When I was a kid and just learning to shoot, around 10 years old, I didn't know how revolvers worked, and held one wrong while shooting. Got a little blast from the cylinder gap to the hand. Luckily, it was just a .22lr revolver, so all I got was a black mark on my hand, but it scared the living daylights out of me and I will never forget about the cylinder gap.
@Angel9932
@Angel9932 20 сағат бұрын
I had correct someone on their grip when showing them how hold a revolver. I told him he really didn't want his thumb next to the cylinder gap when firing a 357 magnum. Not sure if he would have lost the thumb but it wouldn't have been pleasant. SAAMI spec puts it at a max of 35000 PSI.
@feldweible
@feldweible Күн бұрын
I have always enjoyed your BP content. I just love seeing the old smoke wagons put through their paces. Especially in the matches.
@pb7087
@pb7087 23 сағат бұрын
Thanks, I was thinking of getting a repro of one of these recently. Pretty spontaneous and didn’t know much about them. The spalling and runaway percussion grip considerations are a no-go. Saved me some coin.
@wittsullivan8130
@wittsullivan8130 13 сағат бұрын
Extra cylinders were included in cased sets, but they were only given to high ranking officials, dignitaries, and officers, usually involved in procurement as an appreciative gift. With the limited machining they had at the time (compared to now), all the parts required hand fitting. Adding an extra cylinder to a pistol's accessories meant a lot more materials and labor that would eat into the profits. The only organized group of soldiers that carried extra cylinders were a particular militia group in Missouri. They had extra cylinders hand fitted for their Colt revolvers and their wives sewed extra pockets into their jackets to hold them. A few dozen guys, at most. A cylinder loaded with caps isn't a "hand grenade" it might go off if you drop it, but only that chamber, the cylinder itself won't explode. The caps aren't "proud" on the back of the cylinder, they're inset so they're protected if you drop them on a flat surface. I'm not saying to keep loaded cylinders in pouches because with my luck, I would drop one and it will hit that one pebble on the ground that fits perfectly to set it off. (Of course I haven't dropped a loaded cylinder onto a slab covered in vinyl flooring, no way, never. :) ) I would never keep a loaded conversion cylinder in a pouch, for sure. The firing pin sticks out too much.
@AndrewMychalus
@AndrewMychalus Күн бұрын
As usual Karl, you are right on the money with your assessment of the Remington Carbine. I have a replica conversion of one myself and have experienced all the same things you showed with your presentation. Nevertheless watching your KZbin video a pleasure. Just love the firearms of the era. So much history and innovation in such a short time. BTW according to Flayderman's Guide to Antique American firearms Remington only sold about a thousand of the revolving rifle conversions, so the shooting public of the era quickly saw the downsides of the platform as well.
@ReYnd
@ReYnd Күн бұрын
I see black powder content, I click the like button.
@lutherpayne9957
@lutherpayne9957 23 сағат бұрын
The Colt Root Revolving Musket was a cool military leap forward that unfortunately was made obsolete by the lack of a guard for the support hand. It was actually at the third major land battle of the Civil War at Wilson Creek Missouri. In reenacting I wouldn't allow the "Cowboy Carbine" on the firing line due to the spay of unburnt black powder hitting folks on either side of the shooter. I too enjoy black powder shooting. I enjoy all your presentations. Cheers!
@MichaelDodge27
@MichaelDodge27 22 сағат бұрын
Big Hunt Showdown Fan, I always love seeing the black powder era in action!
@RicSpivey
@RicSpivey Күн бұрын
I've about gotten removing my cylinder down on my new model army, with some fouling it makes a HUGE difference. I've seen some guys put lube in the notch along the bottom of the cylinder pin and after each cylinder they'd point it down and roll the cylinder a bit, letting the warmed lube come down into the space. they were saying that the gases escaping from the gap blast out lube and put fouling in it's place. When I go out shooting I've been rubbing a spit finger on the front of my cylinder and working it around after each 6 shots, helps a whole lot.
@omnivore2220
@omnivore2220 18 сағат бұрын
You can keep the cylinder turning and the gun running with ample lubrication. While the Remington does not have the grooves in the cylinder arbor that the Colts have, it does have a flat on the cylinder arbor that runs lengthwise, and that can be filled with Bore Butter. Also, using lube cookies (a cookie consists of a card, a lube pill, and a card, like a sandwich cookie) behind your bullet, or using Big Lube bullets stuffed with lube, will help keep the gun running by blasting a little bit of the lube out of the cylinder gap along with the powder fouling. A proper black powder lube serves to keep the powder fouling soft. I've proven this with a Remington New Model Army pistol by firing more than 100 shots in one session without cleaning. Furthermore, after all of that, one dry patch, run through the barrel one direction, once, leaves the bore looking clean! This is the test for whether your loads contain enough lube, of the right type, in a pistol. The Carbine is a bit more of a problem because a longer barrel requires more lube, otherwise barrel fouling will begin to degrade accuracy before the action begins to tie up.
@keithplymale2374
@keithplymale2374 Күн бұрын
I had one of the Heritage carbines and it showed you holding that same way. Said many of the same same things you did Karl.
@misiekmisuek4421
@misiekmisuek4421 Күн бұрын
Thank you a lot again for all yoir work, video and knowledge transfert. Do wish you and everyone a great Thanksgiving.
@Sedan57Chevy
@Sedan57Chevy Күн бұрын
My uncle mail ordered one of these years ago, and I thought it was super cool (both the gun itself, and being able to just have it shipped)... Right up until we shot it. Still a fascinating firearm and certainly a cool historical piece, but I think pretty much any other repeating long arm probably would've been a better choice for practical use. Thanks for the video, Karl! It was cool reliving some of those memories.
@Metikoi
@Metikoi 18 сағат бұрын
The best guntubers are the historians who give us the pros and cons and context of a given weapon.
@sixoffive
@sixoffive Күн бұрын
Very cool, looks like something Lee Van Cleef shoots. I would have thought an aftermarket deflector would have been popular.
@kevinbietry7527
@kevinbietry7527 Күн бұрын
Just use the tip of the loading lever to punch out the brass and when you are removing the cylinder keep the gun upside down. The trigger guard skyward. This prevents the plunger from falling into the chambers.
@sukositb
@sukositb Күн бұрын
Finally! I have seen revolver carbine in various games but never seen any good video of the real thing. Thank you for the content!
@ElChris816
@ElChris816 Күн бұрын
I've always admired this firearm and wondered about the story behind it. Great video.
@garandm1d
@garandm1d Күн бұрын
... great video...I believe part of the reason loose powder black powder firearms remained viable was cost..loose powder systems had the advantage that you could tailor your load to the need...full power loads for full power needs...you could stretch your powder supply if you had to...droppng your powder charge by as little as 5-10 grains goes a long way in a pound of powder... again... great video.
@kirkboswell2575
@kirkboswell2575 Күн бұрын
To change the cylinder, it's much easier to put the hammer on half-cock first - then drop the lever and pull the pin - then (and this is the main part) rotate the cylinder clockwise to lift the hand, and the cylinder will almost fall into your hand. That same slight clockwise rotation to lift the hand makes replacing the cylinder much easier. For the cylinder binding, use of a good natural lube (I like Bore Butter) to keep the fouling soft extends range time considerably. For cartridges, you need a thicker lube, but just like modern firearms, lubrication of the bullets makes life easier. Oh, and don't forget to lay a line of lube along the flat of the cylinder pin.
@joshforbes1320
@joshforbes1320 Күн бұрын
I really like these black powder videos. Would you ever want to talk about modern black powder weapons?
@InrangeTv
@InrangeTv Күн бұрын
No, I'm not really interested in those tbh.
@danorsen5552
@danorsen5552 Күн бұрын
You can fire .45 Lc out of the .44. On the .36 the barrel has to be changed because the old .38 rim fire was a healed bullet and the .38 special is a smaller bullet.
@pedroamerico9992
@pedroamerico9992 Күн бұрын
Long time fan from Brazil here, its a shame none of these guns exist around here, people would go insane if any of these would get imported
@aac7183
@aac7183 Күн бұрын
Another excellent video Karl . Maybe not the first Old West firearm I buy but I’ll get there eventually 👍🏼
@Miningpastpresentfuture
@Miningpastpresentfuture Күн бұрын
Thank you Karl. Another good BP video.
@35southkiwi16
@35southkiwi16 Күн бұрын
I have one of these (repro) as it allows me to legally shoot a C&B revolver in my country where pistols are restricted. I love it for all its weirdness and often wonder what they did for safety glasses in the late 1800s. Safety squints? Always remember your glasses if you shoot one of these. Great vid
@MrSloika
@MrSloika Күн бұрын
When I used to shoot Cowboy Action eye protection was required. Most people used modern safety glasses which really spoiled the look of their costumes. I used machinist glass from the 1950s. Those old machinist glasses looked like they might actually have been around during the old West era.
@WhatIfBrigade
@WhatIfBrigade Күн бұрын
4:41 Considering lots of people had horses and wagons, carrying extra guns make a lot more sense than just carrying extra cylinders. But even more sense than that, if someone was really worried about capacity just buy a Henry rifle and a couple of revolvers. A 16 shot Henry and two revolvers is WAY faster than changing cylinders. And once the King's gate was invented, you could top up an 1866.
@MrSloika
@MrSloika Күн бұрын
During the Civil War guerrilla groups like Quantrill's Raiders developed hit-and-run tactics by using as many as 6 loaded revolvers per horseman. The revolvers were carried in holsters strapped to the men and on the saddles. As one revolver was emptied, it was holstered and another loaded revolver was drawn. This gave the attacking force enormous firepower for the time.
@recoilrob324
@recoilrob324 Күн бұрын
Years ago there were 5 of us at the range with cap-n-ball revolvers so we lined up abreast and all fired on command. I was on the right end and my arm and neck felt some debris that stung and everyone else said that they were hit with cylinder gap ejecta so that is a VERY real thing and best avoided. The Revolving Carbine would be a lot better than a rock or a sharp stick...but as firearms go I agree it's far behind most others.
@jsshayes1
@jsshayes1 Күн бұрын
Great video Karl! I love the black powder videos.
@The_Disaster_Box
@The_Disaster_Box Күн бұрын
Thanks Karl! This supports every reason I had for not getting a revolving carbine. I still want one. :)
@petehendry4756
@petehendry4756 Күн бұрын
I was shocked when you chucked that revolver lol . What the . Did he just do that ? 😂 good one carl
@Pocky311
@Pocky311 Күн бұрын
Impractical compared to a lever action carbine? Yes. Awkward to use? Yes. Looks completely awesome? Absolutely. Same paradigm as a lot of non-standard arms of this era haha
@alainmorin
@alainmorin 19 сағат бұрын
Just purchased it today!
@CAepicreviews
@CAepicreviews Күн бұрын
I saw one of these at an LGS recently. Forget the caliber, but it seemed neat. Or one similar, it was a modern style cartridge gun.
@captaincrazyhat
@captaincrazyhat Күн бұрын
I was always curious if a system like my nagant revolver would have helped the revolving rifle concept by closing the gap between the cylinder and barrel. That would create a gas seal allowing you to grip the gun like a normal rifle and with a barrel that long it would probably have noticeably increased the fps of the bullets. I would honestly love to see a custom gun like this to see just how it would be as a what if concept.
@nathanm8921
@nathanm8921 21 сағат бұрын
This thing as a scholfield would be awesome
@Snarlacc
@Snarlacc Күн бұрын
I always loved the look of these revolving rifles - even if the cylinder gap is a bit dangerous with the rifle muscle memory of putting the hand on the barrel. Someone should make a non-gap variant, probably not worth it though.
@jamesgunter9100
@jamesgunter9100 Күн бұрын
Remington revolving carbine... the gun that slaps your face every time you pull the trigger!
@berrie-nice-to-meet-you
@berrie-nice-to-meet-you Күн бұрын
This is one of those ideas that sounds novel and makes sense, but then you realize why it doesn't make sense after all. I still want one of those Taurus carbines that supposedly have cylinder guards to prevent the burns
@andreluislimaa
@andreluislimaa Күн бұрын
I count myself fortunate that i dont think I've ever missed a new video because of YT shenanigans. Love to see the black powder content btw!
@evoltnvii
@evoltnvii Күн бұрын
So much oddball madcap innovation taking place back then
@SwordFighterPKN
@SwordFighterPKN Күн бұрын
Great idea accept that whole chain fire thing.
@slurmsmakenzie7970
@slurmsmakenzie7970 12 сағат бұрын
Great video. I own one of these as well and I agree, it is not my favorite to shoot. Still a very neat gun tho
@umbraelegios4130
@umbraelegios4130 Күн бұрын
"Lighter than an 1860 Henry". That can be said for a large portion of things. They are not light.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 15 сағат бұрын
They are cool to look at, but with the way you have to hold it would irritate me. Great info!
@felixchaus
@felixchaus Күн бұрын
It's weird that none did anything about cylinder gap, like a handguard, it wouldn't been hard to fit a tube same size as the cylinder and rail so you could slide it forward while loading
@abitofapickle6255
@abitofapickle6255 Күн бұрын
Would love a modern version. Imagine Henry's big boy revolver but with a carbine length barrel.
@jtilton5
@jtilton5 Күн бұрын
Taurus made a gun called The Circuit Judge that was avalible in .410/45 long colt, 44 Mag / Special and a .22 and .22 Mag (the last one had swappable cyninders.)
@cheddar-bob-9090
@cheddar-bob-9090 Күн бұрын
I think uberti made one in 357 but based off a colt 1873. Edit: ah modern. You want the swing out cylinder I see.
@tim31415
@tim31415 Күн бұрын
I just got my conversion cylinder and a box of long colts and am anxious to run some rounds thru my Remington. Removing the cylinder is quite easy with some practice and I can do it in a couple of seconds. Your problem was you were putting the hammer in half-cock. This raises the hand to where it blocks the cylinder. Leave the hammer down and only pull it back far enough to clear the cylinder. The only challenge is keeping the plunger of the loading lever from getting into a chamber. I would think anyone using cartridges would just cut down the plunger. Problem solved. Also, why does everyone keep referring to the hand position as awkward?? It seems like the most natural way in the world to me. With both hands around the wrist of the stock, the gun can be pulled tight into the shoulder and held much more securely than with the support arm way out on the forestock. The common shooting stance at the time, even with long barreled rifles and muskets, was to hold the support hand against the trigger guard with that elbow braced against the body. You see this in many contemporary engravings and I have read original sources recommending the stance to prevent hand injury in the event of barrel explosion. I have a Kentucky I shoot this way and it supports that long, heavy barrel much better that having the support arm hanging out in mid air. I suspect if you went back 200 years, guys would be laughing at your "awkward" way of holding the gun.
@Justice-ian
@Justice-ian Күн бұрын
That's a good reason not to have the 18" barrel, but it would be really easy to support it that way with the regular handgun barrel. I'm not sure why nobody does this, since it wouldn't be legally restricted.
@TorquilBletchleySmythe
@TorquilBletchleySmythe 23 сағат бұрын
Genuine question: Why are revolving carbines considered more prone to chain-firing than resolving handguns? Are they loaded more heavily, leading to more sparks when ignited? For the life of me, I can't figure out why the addition of a longer barrel and a shoulder stock would make these more prone to multiple chamber detonation than a handgun.
@InrangeTv
@InrangeTv 22 сағат бұрын
They're not, percussion revolvers can chain fire just the same. Neither is more or less risk of such an event.
@TorquilBletchleySmythe
@TorquilBletchleySmythe 22 сағат бұрын
@InrangeTv thanks Karl. I suppose they get highlighted due to the risk of unknowingly misplacing the supporting hand, something a pistol shooter doesn't have to consider.
@FerdinandFake
@FerdinandFake Күн бұрын
The conversion cylinders were on sale and made a lot more sense to carry extra preloaded
@AtomHeartMother68
@AtomHeartMother68 Күн бұрын
Maybe if they were rimfire. The centerfire conversion cylinders had floating firing pins in the backplate. A blow to an exposed firing pin would be problematic.
@tibedog5629
@tibedog5629 Күн бұрын
I've wanted one of these ever since I saw Lee Van Cleef put a stock on a revolver in For A Few Dollars More and discovering there was a carbine
@SafetyProMalta
@SafetyProMalta Күн бұрын
19th century American ingenuity. ❤😊
@Dashrendar7
@Dashrendar7 Күн бұрын
Thanks for the black powder content, I enjoy it 👏 a lot
@peternicol3439
@peternicol3439 Күн бұрын
Karl makes Big Smoke! ☁☁☁
@food_toobs8333
@food_toobs8333 Күн бұрын
Love the black powder content!!
@BRMLs9
@BRMLs9 Күн бұрын
Love these videos
@paulconrad2561
@paulconrad2561 Күн бұрын
I may be wrong, but I seem to remember. The Remingtons sold to the Russian army included a custom holster with a spare cylinder.
@Andy_Ross1962
@Andy_Ross1962 Күн бұрын
Love the black powder videos.
@DNchap1417
@DNchap1417 Күн бұрын
I’ve been told that these revolver rifles were prone to gas leaks and explosions because of the higher pressures of that rifle black powder (2F) vs 3F handgun powder. Is that true? History Channel’s Civil War game brought me here!
@PatrickKiefer-ck7eu
@PatrickKiefer-ck7eu 20 сағат бұрын
3f is higher pressure than 2f.
@LeminskiTankscor
@LeminskiTankscor Күн бұрын
Black powder stuff like this is my favourite type of content on this channel. By the way Karl: what do you think of Smarter Everyday's video shooting black powder guns with his son? Any advice for them to get to fire more reliably?
@genericfakename8197
@genericfakename8197 Күн бұрын
I think the reason someone would buy one of these in the old west would be the same reason a modern person would buy it - it sounds like a good idea in theory and it looks cool.
@tiredtait9660
@tiredtait9660 23 сағат бұрын
I kinda wanted the lever action revolver that rossi designed but never actually made, that moves it to "so useless it's awesome" in my book
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