Insane 250,000 hour bot challenge in Rocket League

[@Rocket_Sledge]

While "you're a bot" may one day be a compliment, "I lost to a bot" will never *not* be embarrassing.

[@jxyhan_rxmix-.3707]

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[@burstybushboi4345]

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[@Patriotsbetta]

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[@comfled]

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[@HTC5003_RL]

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[@ROFLARILO]

Hi guys, bot creator here. Thanks to Sunless for doing this awesome video! Nexto is still training over at the RLGym Twitch channel, where we also do showmatches from time to time (we've had several pros attempt the 1v2). By this point Nexto has amassed over 300k hours, and is better than the version Sunless played😉 We’ve released the version that Sunless played to RLBot, but the best is yet to come, so keep an eye out!

[@mjk980o]

The kaydop game vs nexto was great!

[@Brockfiree]

Love y'all guys

[@bawlzack7877]

[@RaixorWasTakenSadge]

why not just release several versions of nexto? necto is so weak

[@spazneria]

[@euler1]

Imagine the game has this in training and it actually lets u choose what rank u want to play against, that'd be nuts

[@Kibannn]

It does if you do a private match.... But the bots suck no matter the difficulty.

[@matt0191_]

@@Kibannn yeah, i mean, if I won a 1v2 against All-Star Bots, everybody can. Rocket League bots are easy, no matter the difficulty...

[@RocketMonke69420]

I would love that

[@falcon1378]

That would literally be the best way to train. If any 2v2 bots get as good as this one we could see alot more GC's in the future.

[@JoshuaGames4076]

@@falcon1378 but then again.. the ranks below it will become even tougher to get through cuz they will be learning how to play properly because of these bots.. I'm talking bout players from Gold 3 and up will try to mimmik these bots in terms of mechanics and you'll see how mechanical these Gold 3 players and above gets and also.. tutorial videos on how to rank up may tell you.. do 3v3s against these bots.. it's like playing ranked games, but with higher tier bots who are mechanical

[@Turbro39]

All we need now is for them to be programmed to say "calculated" every time they score.

[@EICosmic]

FIrst funny comment ive seen so far

[@massimiliano2258]

Brilliant!

[@johnny9]

LOL

[@mrey]

this is the best youtube comment i've ever seen

[@Blocks0]

Custom RLBot bots have access to quickchats so a lot of them already do that haha

[@dalan158]

That slow dibble turn is terrifying. Its so controlled that he can just insta flick at any point if he sees you go to challenge.

[@Careonovam]

agreed. imagine seeing that in a match... instant ff ^^

[@stranger16luis71]

If you play them against like 2v1, they gang up on you. Pros haven't been able to win a best of 5 against Nexto in 2v1 setting. It's quite crazy. Fairy Peak (took 1 game, goat obviously), Kaydop, Chausette, Mawkzy all lost. Mawkzy played like 15 straight matches to finally win 1. The next version of Nexto is probably going to be ssl or very close.

[@olibentundee131]

@@stranger16luis71 where can i see that?

[@tama2723]

@@stranger16luis71 you say next version but it is evolving constantly by playing its self and will never stop learning

[@davinascimentoandrade2589]

i think he can read you controls on the game code, so its even more terrifying

[@patrickmunson4421]

Sunless: "Its flicks are so high like what, who flicks like that" Athena: "..."

[@TooS1mple]

Ss this the perfect teammate for Athena?

[@andrei_smecherul]

@@TooS1mple Yes

[@connorbritton7668]

We need a Nexto bot in the game, and when you beat him you get a player title: "Beat Nexto in 'X' Tries"

[@abdouxdabico615]

Wait that's actually a pretty awesome idea

[@JoshuaGames4076]

ye we totally need this.. How am I to get better at the game with a bunch of slow bots

[@xuper2629]

Genius

[@Geoarc_1440]

Could you imagine “Nexto” as a challenge above “Unfair” for bot matches

[@ge-9848]

But since Nexto is constantly improving, it wouldnt be the same beating him now or like a month later. Therefor it would be kinda unfair among the players

[@TheMisterEpic]

Can't wait until they get to ssl level

[@colli7297]

No way TheMisterEpic is here. >:O

[@naveendennis]

Imagine after some more training the bot goes up against Arsenal. It’ll be funny as well😄

[@eestaashottentotti2242]

If they continue development, it is pretty inevitable.

[@Elias-eh6qp]

Misterepic hi bro didnt except to see u here!

[@theechadian6652]

Wassup mister epic

[@zoltanmagyar6832]

Sunless: "This is a Best Of 3 by the way" Also Sunless: *Proceeds to play 6 games in total and losing 5 of them*

[@orbit_llama]

Try a pro vs Nexto

[@FoggyMcFogFace]

just a casual bo11

[@SunlessKhan]

@@FoggyMcFogFace exactly just your typical bo11

[@LilCheesyBean]

@@SunlessKhan yeah exactly, everyone plays bo11 all the time it’s completely normal

[@tpad6]

What are you guys talking about? He beat it 1st try.

[@milhanou229]

When you think of it, Nexto is the proof you can be as good as a grand champion without any mechanics except great flicks. Even when he tried the aerial save he failed.

[@Todestuete]

He is extremely consistent. Consistent base mechanics are very valuable.

[@Delantho]

flakes did a road to ssl in 1s using ONLY rolling dribbles and powerslide cuts

[@ToothpasteJuice]

Sunless: "Yes! I finally won!" Us: "Fool. You've only made him stronger."

[@shadowyzephyr]

He doesn't learn from playing humans

[@Scootah95]

@@shadowyzephyr It...It is an AI..its not a living being. Therefore its not classified as such. Oh, and I dont believe this was sunless playing. It was probably one of his many pro Pals doing it....

[@ToothpasteJuice]

@@shadowyzephyr so it only learns in freeplay? Or from other bots?

[@Akai93]

@@ToothpasteJuice It plays itself over and over again constantly and learns from that

[@TheWorldWarrior]

@@Akai93 technically since there is so many variables it brute forces techniques if it merely goes against its self it eventually will have technical flaws that it never learned because it’s merely going against its self

[@4maticeperformance4doorcoupe]

This would literally be a nice Training to be implemented in Rocket League. Something like a Challenge Mode. 1v1 against actually good bots like Nexto. If you win, you receive a special item (Banner, Title etc.)

[@2s2bs]

If you get RLBot, you can play their story mode and go against the bots in ascending order of difficulty

[@dova4357]

I know I'm ahead of myself here, but: Single player 3v3 seasons with GC level bots....that would be so awesome.

[@777citrus]

yeah i think a title based on what rank of nexto you beat would be awesome

[@JG7tv]

The future of bots is actually scary these things are unreal 🤯

[@mauroschreurs6609]

Most humans take 4/5k hours to get gc, ai needs 250k hours…

[@mohamedwaleed6485]

@@mauroschreurs6609 ok but bots can do it in even shorter time in rl

[@kherii.]

@@mauroschreurs6609 250k sped up hours with multiple bots learning at the same time

[@aryanjha8841]

@@mauroschreurs6609 they can play 24/7 tho, so the total amount of time isn’t that much more.

[@demongameryeet]

Hi JG :)

[@uwu-di1cu]

yo sunless, if you wanna bring even more attention to the bot, you could add a little disclaimer in the description that nexto's progress is being livestreamed 24/7 on twitch under the name rlgym, there have also been several showmatches against pros (aztral, extra, kaydop, fairy, etc.)

[@Dee-Eddy]

well i HAD plans today... thanks a lot... lol

[@lucasprodan6092]

where can i watch those videos ? it can't be that nobody has uploaded them to youtube ... that is suspicious

[@bingo2433]

@@lucasprodan6092 They're on the rlgym twitch channel vods

[@zanetruesdale8336]

This is actually incredible. Imagine if the bot trained for 500,000 hours and unlocked a ranking that's higher than RLCS pros. It could genuinely become the future of how RLCS pros will train for Rocket League and show the future of the game. Imagine watching a 3v3 of these bots playing against each other - and each one had trained for 1 million hours.

[@omarassla]

I'm sure there's a plateau these bots hit of how much they could learn

[@shadowyzephyr]

This version is already starting to plateau, it would take an impractical amount of time to hit pro level. But they will keep improving it so who knows? The sky is the limit when it comes to ML bots, they don't know exactly what will happen until they try :)

[@tero4943]

@@shadowyzephyr all there is to optimize is learning factors now

[@milhanou229]

@@shadowyzephyr You also have to consider they don't have the same playstyle and especially mechanics as an actual CHAMP/GC/SSL. They might be able to face and equal humans their rank. They will never have the same actual level. All they do is flick and power shots. They can't even aerial. I think this gen of bots is approching its peak indeed. I don't think pros will ever use bots to train or copy their games like OP said. At least not this gen.

[@Josef_1186]

Makes me realize how good of a learning tool bots like these could be for every rank. This bot’s play style kind of reminds me of flakes. Really calculated and punishing.

[@zzyxx2112]

I haven’t watched him for a while and then I come back and Jesus Christ these edits are insanely good

[@Shockwavs]

lol same for me

[@TC7-Thecomplex7]

Literally same, first vid I watched in almost a year actually.

[@snooksv3172]

Yea I stopped watching all RL content. Everyone's upped their game it seems.

[@callum0481]

Psyonix should seriously consider making a solo campaign. Something similar to the classic exhibition tournaments but an updated version with updated AI like the one in this video. Each AI becomes progressively more difficult to beat, it could be really good to practice, with removing general online toxicity and pressure to do well for mmr scoring. Just a thought :)

[@jakob5279]

I'd like to see a pro beating it Imagine that Bot could be implemented im rl then the training mode with bots would be useful Great video sunless

[@turt_L]

Fairypeak actually had a showmatch with it on stream couple days ago, first 1v1 and then bo5 1v2

[@gamerxdking4369]

@@turt_L vod link plz.

[@georgiishmakov9588]

@@turt_L link or cap

[@vincenttrutschler8306]

@@turt_L Link pls

[@mjk980o]

You can find it on the RLGym twitch channel if you type !fairypeak in chat. We have also had matches against kaydop, chausette, mawkzy, and more!

[@nourthedoor]

This is the Rocket League equivalent of a chess engine. Imagine you could set it to play at a certain MMR level...that'd be a great training tool

[@alfie1230]

That is a genuinely cool idea and would actually be insanely helpful in training

[@edp1963]

Right now we have Kamael around low plat, Necto around mid champ, and Nexto around mid GC, we're getting close to having that really

[@interestssnoopy103]

Cool idea, but realistically a very complicated problem. The question of what constitutes a specific mmr, that is. It could be certain inconsistencies or lack of mechanics or bad rotations and all of this is constantly changing as the mmr to skill ratio changes in real rocket league. Imo it would be inaccurate always by some degree, but it definitely would be cool to see some attempt at various skill levels of the bot, just maybe not correspondent to specific mmr's or ranks.

[@nourthedoor]

@@interestssnoopy103 similarly, no chess engine is perfect. They intentionally choose innacurate moves and blunder pieces but can never properly simulate the human thinking process, especially at low levels. Nothing beats human vs. human gameplay, but I think the concept is still cool.

[@interestssnoopy103]

@@nourthedoor I absolutely agree, the concept is awesome, afterall we're talking about artificial intelligence, idk if it gets much "cooler" lol

[@wokengamer4891]

Thankyou for another banger. Love the grind. Hope everyone has a great day!

[@JoshuaGames4076]

I'm not having a great day.. I'm a hardstuck low ranked player who hardly gets to play roxcket league... my parents only lets me play 1hr per week

[@wokengamer4891]

@@JoshuaGames4076 its ok bro, you'll get there. Try to get that extra time and keep on with the grind. Practice even in the times you don't want to because it will make you a stronger player. Have a great day bro, never talk down on yourself.

[@JoshuaGames4076]

@@wokengamer4891 thanks G.. thats been makiing my mindset very negative for the past few days.. I've been stuck in the lower ranks for over 1 year now... Never got much hours at all. not even 150hrs

[@brad_lesh]

Shoutout to you/your editor on the intro of this video! One of the better edited intros I've seen on your channel, really helped set the tone for the video :)

[@jansimblank9358]

Great video! Two minor details : people beat this bot before, and even in 1v2. Also the bot is not learning during play, therefore he can't adapt during the game.

[@jblazeisme2329]

No one has beaten V2 in a 1v2 like not even pros

[@shadowyzephyr]

@@jblazeisme2329 Fairy peak took one game

[@jansimblank9358]

@@jblazeisme2329 mawkzy has after a lot of games. The devs said so in a french interview with kaydop.

[@Cheetahhh]

I gotta say your music taste is BUMPIN god DAAMN

[@mrbreadcrumb]

Being called a bot can actually be considered a compliment now

[@iwatch10hourvideos90]

Almost like he said it in the video. Great contraception!

[@mrbreadcrumb]

@@iwatch10hourvideos90 might have written the comment before i heard him say that 💀

[@iwatch10hourvideos90]

@@mrbreadcrumb maybe it's the fact that he said it half way through the video maybe if you payed attention on watching the video than commenting a unimportant " joke " and using the exact same words he did 💀

[@akcollins5154]

It’s interesting Bec it’s not the fact the bot can do everything well, it’s the fact that it does everything well consistently so more then likely it’s chance of missing is so low that by the time you start to figure it out or you warm up , it’s already to late. Very interesting.

[@Spikey_Pineapple]

This may have been Sunless's Greatest achievement yet. Beating a bot.

[@stonehengemaca]

8:36 "No, nope, that just made him more powerful.." 🤣🤣

[@_GuzJ]

Oh so since it's Rocket League and not an FPS, creating bots is allowed? 😆

[@CPNSTRAdiction5925]

Bro you're not singularly a KZbinr. You're a comedian. Your comedic timing is so on point. Love your videos as always. Really want to get trashed by this bot until I leave to be better now lol

[@roccopavone1600]

Gotta love AI learning to play video games, so fascinating

[@TheTypek81]

Plot twist: For his last attempt his friend renamed himself as Nexto, played like him and let him win so he would finally beat him

[@iwatch10hourvideos90]

What song is the outro?? Is sounds great I'd love to listen to it.

[@AdamBomb5794]

So cool that you're showcasing nexto! If you tune into the RLGym twitch channel, there are a bunch of showmatches happening where the two nextos play against one pro. So far, no pro has won a series against it. It's kinda scary. I'm pretty sure that next week, there's going to be a casted 4v2 showmatch against Chaussette and Kaydop - come say hi!

[@jdawggy8761]

Scary to think what it could do with even more hours

[@acanalesc]

6:09 THAT RECOVERY THO

[@WhosParx]

these videos never fail to entertain me

[@markstuewe3328]

A single play mode defeating bots is actually a great idea for the game

[@chxncellr989]

You should do the same video but with ssls or pros. How long will it take them to beat nexto?

[@ninobtf1310]

1 try lmao

[@rollsreus2807]

@@ninobtf1310 I’m pretty sure a bunch have lost first try including Kaydop and Chausette. Extra tried a 1 ‘v2 and lost but then won a 1v3

[@edp1963]

It can't really 1v1 them yet, but in 1v2 it's beating a lot of pros (Extra Mawkzy Fairy).

[@lucasprodan6092]

@@edp1963 why is not video on youtube about that ?

[@ninobtf1310]

​@@rollsreus2807 Fairy won a game against 2 of them, they need a little bit of time to adapt, but the best 1s player in the world (wich kaydop and chausette are not anymore) can beat them. However, I have no doubt this bot will eventually beat the best 1s player in the next months , in 3s I'm not convinced yet.

[@vadoom3353]

Big problem with this bot is I can't queue with it in ranked

[@MIrophage]

Can we all just appreciate how good the editing, script writing and production are on this video?!!! ROCK ON SUNLESS!!!!!

[@MetaTomato]

It's super interesting because the bot is better than humans in things like control and reaction time, but also falls short in some areas, mainly bumping and probably extended techniques like flip resets, but that's something it might learn to deal with so I'm honestly terrified of how far this bot will go in the future

[@frittex]

Editor: How much editing and effects do you want? Sunless: Yes.

[@perico0507]

7:48 made me think, what if the bots learnt that quick chat spam increased their chances of winning against human players and just constantly spammed quick chat while they remain completely unfazed by it XD

[@JayPatel-xk4le]

Imagine a team of bots competing in rlcs And who knows they may even win

[@davis0677]

Hey once this thing hits SSL I'd love to see that

[@hugoporras3162]

Any rule says you need to be human to participate?

[@icebox1954]

I doubt it. Have you seen Galactik Football? Team Technodroid never won against the living beings. This isn't chess, it's -Galactik Football,- I mean Rocket League.

[@shadowyzephyr]

It's impossible because humans have PING. Bots don't.

[@vononii9942]

The music to this video is amazing, this whole video is great. =0

[@luigidude3504]

He had enough of "You're a bot" being an insult and made it a compliment SINGLE HANDEDLY

[@CompadreTlacuache]

What I learned playing these bots is to never let them dribble, their like, Mawkzy(pro) level with their flicks

[@shadowyzephyr]

Mawkzy played 1v2 vs them for a long time to learn how to beat them

[@Im0nlyHuman]

That one guy with 28.5 years of straight playing a game that’s been released for 8 years

[@realtimestatic]

Seems like the time has arrived where Rocket League bots are actually as good as chess bots

[@kbm555_TM]

Sunless-“It’s flicks are so high who flicks like that”- Athena 👁👄👁

[@TreeFood666]

As a semi outsider looking in (im only plat), the amount of times my jaw dropped at the behavior of Nexto... I don't know the first thing about programming or how this is even possible. Watching it play rocket league is like poetry.

[@ryzikx]

Basically how it works is that the bot is given "reward points" for certain actions and the bot plays against itself many times. The winning version of the bot (with the most points) advances and plays against itself again. Rinse and repeat.

[@NoobNoOne1]

Love the attention Nexto is getting, it's such a cool project by the community

[@cardu_]

Rocket League PvE? Oh wait I face bots everyday, even on my teams already

[@jhawk2402]

1:51 Red Dress by Adrian Berenguer

[@VantaBay]

The Chad 100% flick success rate AI Vs the mortal kick-off merchant sunlesskhan

[@Ashtizadeh83]

By far the best subtle joke of this entire video is the fact that Sunless celebrates his victory over a song called "Participation Trophy"

[@mrregularword4329]

Having strong bots to practice against will be super useful

[@omarahmad5443]

this is insane man ... props to sledge for making this insanely good rl bot ... i played 5 matches with it so far and won 2 only ... its embarassing yet very impressive

[@3Lv6engine]

I think i understand why nexto is so op, he percieves your controller movement earlier than it happens in the game so it quickly does something for that, he always gets everything just right, like the flicks for example, sunless barely missed bc it knew he wouldnt get there

[@fenyx4190]

The bot seems to have the offense of an SSL and the defense of a champ, which actually makes total sense. Defense depends massively on the other player, and since that can be unpredictable, it will be significantly harder for the bot to learn.

[@calbernandhowbe]

video ideas: prank someone by pretending to have them 1v1 nexto but it's actually a pro or disguise a pro as nexto, in a tournament, like you did with arsenal a while back

[@ahugegorilla1575]

It’s all fun and games until bots start air dribling and flip resetting.

[@adamsnell2088]

Definitely would love to see more videos with this bot! 2v2s and 3v3s against it with pros and people from all different ranks would be very interesting

[@dallonreddish2957]

Good news Mr. Lesskhan. This video popped up on my recommendations tab! Just like you eventually beat the Rocket League bot, you were also able to eventually beat the youtube bots. Keep fighting the good fight.

[@dbthemc]

1:33 I felt attacked but your explanation made me feel better 🤣 thanks Sunless 👍

[@lowkeydangerous7706]

This is one of the coolest things I’ve ever seen. The learning through experience mechanics is so intriguing. I’d imagine that even on these games that sunless is playing now the bot would be learning ways to counteract and defend better

[@BrawlLegendLink]

No, that's not how it works. By the time you as a human play it, there is no learning. Difference between training and inference in ML.

[@mansongamingz7559]

That bot looks insane , dang I think I am going to get destroyed like 100 - 0 . These bots are also scary jezz , there are like freaking nightmares . We really need to find the ultimately the best rocket league player of all time to beat this bot but this will turn that bot to be the Best RL of all time . That bot really made you look like a diamond 2-3

[@rooni7615]

this just proves that even bots make mistakes, a bot with 250,000 hours in the game still made mistakes, no one is perfect

[@kevinkeenan4963]

I feel like psyonix or epic or whoever could really take the idea of really good bots and run with it, they could add some kind of career mode where its 1v1 against different skill levels of bots and you have a career rating or something and as your rating goes up it gives you different bot challenges or skill levels, maybe like a challenge where the bot ball chases alot and it teaches you how to play around that or a really slow bot that flicks alot. I think any in game support for higher level players from the devs themselves would be sick instead of having to search youtube or reddit all the time for different training packs or custom maps on steam

[@MrMaxya]

It’s kinda scary how he knew when to pop the ball over you and what to do for every single situation. Although the bot gives free goals to you he always learns from the mistake and it doesn’t usually happen twice which impresses me and baffles me how a AI can learn any type of game no matter what, all it needs is time

[@platinum2714]

We now have to set up a challenge against all the pros you can get, whoever beats the bot in the least amount of tries wins money or something. Or even do a pro ffa again but have the top 2 go up against 2 of the bots in a finale 2v2

[@themilkyfx]

i would like to see this bot have like a million hours of machine learning, and then a full pro team go against a full bot team....human versus machine, ai versus our brains, THE ULTIMATE BATTLE FOR WHO IS SUPERIOR

[@calac2010]

sunless screaming 'screw you' to an AI has made my day

[@efslgima]

The advantage that the bot has over humans is knowing exactly what you do and can also predict stuff much easier since it has played for thousands of hours and can remember every single match

[@owenklaus9779]

There needs to be a King of the Hill gamemode with bots like this. It would help players improve so much by forcing them to play 1s but not getting frustrated over losing ranks and being what a saved lol

[@RenixGames]

That absolutely perfect catch at 8:40 had me rolling hahaha. He's like I am a master of this game and you're like ... I'm fucked.

[@boxoffoxes223]

Came here looking for this timestamp in the comments - that moment was intimidating even after all the stuff shown before.

[@RenixGames]

@@boxoffoxes223 hahaha yeah man that was the cleanest catch I've ever seen. He literally went into god mode there LOL

[@PtylerBeats]

The funny part is, you can train against this bot all you want, and then going into 1s will drive you nuts because humans make the most random movements in comparison lol you’ll completely lose your ability to predict the other player

[@randyhaight7202]

Ah God, watching this one gave me the leg twitches like I was playing someone good myself. Maybe part of what the bot has learned is to give up a couple of kickoff goals to get the opponent too comfortable.

[@BrawlLegendLink]

No, it trains against itself. It's a bot. Bots don't have that human flaw of getting too comfortable (or too nervous).

[@randyhaight7202]

@@BrawlLegendLink And that's why I said maybe it has learned to make its OPPONENT too comfortable.

[@BrawlLegendLink]

@@randyhaight7202 While learning, it is its own opponent. Exclusively.

[@3DMakerNoob]

the moment you realize that everytime you learn how to trick him, he has learned that you learned how to trick him....

[@shadowyzephyr]

"He" doesn't learn from playing against humans.

[@harrisonbennett5530]

A little what in the armor! 8:04 I know what you were trying to say, but confused me there for a sec.

[@TrickyRL]

When you want to play 1s but want to avoid the toxicity: Nexto

[@thelegendary12]

6:15 Sunless (after bumping the bot): Hahahahahahahaahahahahaha! Nexto: So you have chosen death

[@oDom1no]

6:15 The switch up in emotions tho had my dying 😭🤣

[@chadloveland2821]

I played this bot in golds. He was unbelievable then and has only gotten better. No lie I feel a lot better knowing it was bot destroying me not the normal golds/smurfs I'm used to beating me.

[@Gontie1]

I've trained with Necto and Nexto last several days, first for my horrible kickofs. Nexto is now much stronger in aerial game. A simple Air Dribble was enough to beat him, now that is no longer working ;:)

[@trev__6209]

A bot challenge ladder in rocket league sounds like an awesome idea. Have like 3 variations of bots at each rank, each variation is better at one or two things then the other. Also someone mentioned getting a title for beating nexto, so the same could be done for the challenge ladder. I feel like there is a lot you could do this.

[@lemon66111]

a tip I found(as a d3/c1) is that aerial attacks(eg. an air dribble or something, or just anything higher in the air in general) are more effective because the bot is mostly ground based and isn't as good in the air, shown when it missed an aerial even at GC level. I did face it a month ago though, so it most likely got better in that time

[@JamesBrown-zp9xe]

yes plus it cant read wall touches for some reason

[@shadowyzephyr]

Yes, you played the original necto which is champ level

[@tuskman5399]

This takes me back to the good ol days of trying to win a 1v4 game against the hardest bots in the game. Feel so good when you finally win haha

[@liamjaeb20676]

Just so you know how many 250,000 hours is. It's 28.5 years.

[@jemuel_m]

100% Need to see Flakes vs Nexto. But don't tell Flakes it's a bot lol

[@egg.6223]

4:43 "what if i just rush it-" "*never rush it*"

[@edmund4409]

imagine if they left this bot running its training for a year or something then it would know the counter to every rocket league situation ever.

[@BSMGZion]

I feel that a player themselves could learn from the bot, if you get used to how it plays after extensive sessions, you'll never have to worry about flicks and you can learn exactly what challenges aren't working

[@HoraryHellfire]

As a GC3 player who played the latest Nexto version on the bot pack, yes you can learn how it plays. I can't beat it every time, but I can now win against it a handful of times. Nexto's weaknesses are: 1. Kickoffs Needs little explanation. If you leverage the ball better on kickoff, you have the advantage early on. 2. Double Touches Nexto doesn't like to protect the backboard when you're already mid-air, so double touches are essentially open nets most of the time. To Nexto, it's risky to fly for the ball preemptively and just throw the ball away when the other car (which is typically another Nexto in its training) will just recover. 3. Flip resets This one is essentially a free goal. If you set up a double touch from the wall, Nexto always expects the hit to be powerful when you fly at it or that you'll drop the ball (due to wheel hits). So a flip reset gets it over its head basically every time. 4. Non-committal Close spacing Nexto does not perform as well when you aren't giving it space, since it can't set-up its dribbles and monstrous flicks that always get around you. When you're close or have speed at it, it will flick the ball. Meaning you can just fake challenge and take the ball after if you do it right. Always recommended when the ball is in its half. When it's in your half, you can still do it but mainly in the corners, otherwise you better be top tier at baiting it just perfectly before it gets a power shot. As well, Nexto reads your jump action immediately, and thus will aerial as you do if you're close. Making it more likely to miss if you jump, don't commit, and then fly for his aerial shot which is much easier than his god-tier flicks. 5. Bumps and especially demos. The bot wasn't seemed to be trained with demos and bumps in mind at all. I assume other Next bots never bumped or demo'd it as it was playing itself in training its 250k hours. So if you can manage a demo, you can often get a free goal. Even with all this in mind though, I still don't beat Nexto every time as a ~GC3 player. I'd say my winrate is closer to around 30%-50% depending on how warmed up I am and if I'm having a bad streak. All in all though, it's a very good bot to play against as practice, especially playing a close non-committal playstyle.

[@pasxalispetrakidis4562]

Nexto is next level gigachad. He doesn't make mistakes and when he does he can learn from it to shIt on you next time

[@shadowyzephyr]

he doesn't learn from playing against humans (yet)

[@Breauxj]

Watch sunless get absolutely bullied by this bot is the best RL content I’ve seen in awhile 😂

[@CrackedZac]

If you’re a GC just think.. what would Nexto do?… because he’s literally the culmination of what works most often

[@mikeyknight292]

Id say at this point, the only thing that makes a human better, is that the bot seems to do the same thing every time. Doesn't really seem to change it's playstyle

[@youssefabd4089]

OMG i just can't believe this feeling of relief i'm gc 1 in hoops and 2s i played this guy for 1hour 20 min straight i swear he's just pain in the a** i kept understanding his tactic every game and how can i prevent his dribbles and flicks and i finally won 6-3 man the relief it was very fun and definitely i feel a way better improvement in counter attacks and positioning in def

[@loganbaxter3028]

Genuinely the best produced but still casual rocket league video I’ve seen, great job