INSANE Through the Fire and Flames | Expert+ Beat Saber

bsaber.com/songs/20c8/ BOOM, here's the link to the song finally.
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Through the Fire and Flames beat saber, played on expert plus difficulty, just deciding I wanted to try to get some sort of video out since I've been lacking lately, a good mix of skill and something raw to watch. Sorry i've slowed down on the beat saber content lately, normally I love beat saber but I've just been feeling kind of slow. One of the videos I was working on for a while got corrupted, and much of the recording process was glitchy so I sort of lost my motivation. I'm going to try to release more beat saber content soon, so for now, enjoy through the fire and the flames.
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[@Calmputer]

the flies in your apartment tell legends of the tornado that happened on that day, and they shudder and huddle in fear.

[@SeivelN]

LOL, This right here is a quality comment!

[@nicholasapostolof8251]

You are a legend. 😂

[@travithegravy6672]

Yeah the ones that LIVED tell the tale

[@renefisette7046]

Lmfao

[@archerdan6660]

Amen brother!

[@supercollider012]

I love that ever since Guitar Hero 3, this song has become the ultimate benchmark for most rhythm games.

[@InternetGravedigger]

This song is the final boss for rhythm games (and probably guitarists).

[@carnivorze1052]

@@InternetGravedigger yeah this shits hard af

[@madcap3450]

Luckily nobody realizes "Fallen world" is actually dragonforces fastest song

[@thejuiceking2219]

@@madcap3450 true but fallen world is also 3 minutes shorter

[@madcap3450]

@@thejuiceking2219 I dont think it would matter. It would probably be too much for anyone to do as soon as the drums kick in. But if you really want a song nobody could do then you could always just look at soldiers of the wasteland

[@YurzRH]

FPV of Anakin killing the younglings.

[@tachanka6680]

𝗛𝗼𝗹 𝘂𝗽

[@monicaloaiza1928]

*WAIT A MINUTE*

[@zerkker6096]

*Something ain’t right*

[@robertmunckin7673]

This has no dislikes as it should

[@painfullyaverage6949]

@@robertmunckin7673 hello, I’m from the future and I have bad news

[@meatballmusicman5687]

I've done this song many times before, and I cannot tell how how much it PHYSCIALLY PAINS you to do each run through it. It's an 8 minute cardio endurance test.

[@frostghost75_6]

Darth Vader: *slowly walking back*

[@SeivelN]

Darth Dumbass (Me): *Slowly noodle arming forward*

[@lupinsredjacket3191]

@@SeivelN General Greivous: **CRIES**

[@bimmingham]

irl he would be flailin his arms everywhere, even the walls move out of the way because of how scared they are of being hit

[@youkaiphoenix4236]

Or he is one of the people that could do it with their wrists

[@loly8844]

@@youkaiphoenix4236 so basically anyone with more than 3 braincells

[@-OmegaMania-]

This is me whenever am trying to kill a mosquito at 2:00 am

[@SeivelN]

LOL

[@tiasi3366]

jaja mal

[@noahdaman6464]

Mom: why are you so tired? Me: because I was playing a video game Mom: for how long? Me: 7 minutes

[@zacharye1080]

this man could single handedly beat every anime character

[@remuswesker7046]

Agreed

[@mieesa]

True

[@warpking4231]

Especially if he's got this playing

[@TheLegitEpicBoss]

This is what anime characters do to train

[@firasnacef001]

Anime characters remain in their universes in fear of the reality that hosts this guy.

[@isaacadam8540]

That is the most insane thing I've seen in my entire life. I couldn't do that if I practiced all day!

[@mitchmanzelli3186]

It’s hard but I also did it

[@youkaiphoenix4236]

From what I was seeing he was doing it while moving his wrists but not his arms

[@wreckitben1278]

Flandre Scarlet heah i noticed that too, if you move your whole arm you’re never going to be able to keep strong going to the end.

[@enochfrazier3933]

Yeah, it takes months of practice

[@Jakerules124]

Look up ghost expert + VIP and go to taichis video that is the most insane thing

[@Teng376]

Thank you for playing the proper hard version. Most big Beat Saber channels play the lame one, where half of the blocks are blank ones (without arrows), which require no rhythm at all. You've got some skill man.

[@abhishekchulani2823]

this one is actually easier for me i just cant do the start of the other one

[@lauriethefish2470]

@Rae It's debatable, I actually score much higher on this one as it has much better patterns that flow FAR better

[@loly8844]

This ones easier lmao, the other one is pattern based, sounds to me like your judging only off of the video, this one is decently difficult, but just because a song isn’t jump spam or vibrato doesn’t mean it isn’t hard

[@godoftestoe7956]

"The lame one". Dude, that "lame" one is pretty hard.

[@Bytesy]

@@lauriethefish2470 well yeah, the mapping in the 2018 one is really bad so it’s way harder to acc

[@bruhmoment11111]

Your arms have got to be made of carbon fibre if you can move them this fast and this accurately, you're an absolute legend

[@Bitz00.]

alright you clearly dont play the game so i understand but what really is diffitcult is keeping up these speeds for the 7.5 minutes of the song beceause your arms get tired fast at these speeds

[@bruhmoment11111]

@@Bitz00. Yeah, no shit, that's why I compared the guy's arms to something as strong and light as carbon fiber. You'll know more about what that is when you get into middle school, because I refuse to believe anybody but a child wouldn't know what that means.

[@Bitz00.]

@@bruhmoment11111 bro have you heard of what accurate and fast mean, they’re not the same thing as strong and light also your arms can be heavy af and you can play beatsaber, beat Saber uses almost no arm speed but a lot of arm holding and slowly moving

[@felipesoares9148]

@@Bitz00. race cars are made of carbon friber... they are fasters and accurates

[@Bitz00.]

@@felipesoares9148 so you’re telling me that it’s the carbon fibre that allows the car to move that fast and not for any other reason

[@toainsully]

"Good luck" --- Guitar Hero 3 loading tip when booting up Through the Fire and Flames on highest difficulty

[@Wafflelord-Gaming]

Objective updated: Survive

[@shirohimayumikira234]

Wii and PS2 versions only. The HD versions don't have that.

[@isaacadam8540]

Him: 200 combo Me: Misses every singe note

[@Cheezdealer]

6:18 Me IRL all the time But man... that combo at 5:59 onwards... good job man

[@SeivelN]

LOL I DIDNT EVEN REALISE I BOPPED THOSE NOTES LIKE THAT.

[@LumboDumbo]

@@SeivelN I could tell at the last nanosecond you were like "oh shit swing up"

[@VelocityIsH3R3]

Cool to see runescape fans Around here

[@mrratties3542]

Mad respect for you. My arms give up at 2 minutes. Amazing that you can do this

[@Bitz00.]

yea like mine just fail me at about 3:37 and are just unable to hit the edges with both sabers

[@Vash1508]

The Force is strong in this one.

[@jadethegamermc]

The dragon force

[@thisdumbcat]

Seriously, one of the best things I have ever seen accomplished on Beat Saber.

[@elriichaaard]

6:09 me cutting the vegetables 1:53 me cutting vegetables, but... BEAST MODE ON 5:56 my mum cutting the vegetables (see the combo) 0:21 MY MUM CUTTING THE VEGETABLES BUT BEAST MODE ON

[@sinjon8378]

Challenge: Try to watch this entire video without dissociating from reality

[@awakenedcrowl]

"Okay sir, you can leave the hospital now. But in the remaining days, PLEASE try not to excercize too- SIR, WHAT THE HECK?!"

[@redweege2929]

teacher: the test isn't that hard! the test:

[@inklazer3447]

Well i guess I'd be good at school work if it's just this! (i wish school work was just play hard levels in beat saber)

[@asteriskchaos]

>insert "original ttfaf was better and more visionary than new version" copypasta awesome work, as always

[@SeivelN]

lol I got hit with that in my own discord by Olaf, you right >:D Thanks man!

[@sw9458]

I’m imagining a light saber duel with this man would be hard with his speed and reflexes

[@zfitness2005]

Expert mode guitar hero: *Am I a joke to you?*

[@_Pangloss]

that spin at 4:52 always gets me

[@mykyubi09]

His controllers on fire and flames. The force is realy with him.

[@krum1985]

That is insane! Once I get my hands on a VR headset, this song is definitely one of those I would buy for beat saber and spend weeks trying to master, just as I did with this song on guitar hero back in the day 😁

[@caseyhughes5313]

Doctor: So how did you dislocate both of your arms again? This Guy: With the power of METAL!

[@Hunter-oo3ct]

And I thought "reality check through the skull" on expert+ hurt my brain Now I can't finish my school work until I recuperate from that mental onslaught

[@houstonbeckworth]

Hands down the best run and map of ttfaf for beat saber I’ve seen. This map really reminds me of the difficulty found in videos of guitar hero, which isn’t found in the videos of other beat saber streamers. I’ve watched this many times and it never ceases to impress.

[@SeivelN]

I'm glad you enjoy it! I hope to start making more beatsaber content again soon!

[@Bitz00.]

yea for some reason all the other streamers and content creators play it on expert not expert+

[@coronacheesecake2837]

The exam sheet to my braincells :

[@SeivelN]

It's the equivalent to 'None of the above' being an answer that sits above 'All of the above' LOL

[@Klivdx]

Holy freaking shit! This is some next level! GG dude!

[@RafaJurkowski]

Damn. This is sick. Well done, dude.

[@lupinsredjacket3191]

Guitar Hero Version: *FINALLY.* *A WORTHY OPPONENT.* *OUR BATTLE WILL BE LEGENDARY!*

[@KameronArcher]

oh my god. you can tell when he gets tired by how swoopy the sight gets

[@enjoyinsanity7065]

So that's what facing General Greivous looks like.

[@Hank-fn2ur]

This perfectly represents what the drummers went through

[@SeivelN]

Lol, though they probably get a bit more of a sweat going. Drumming is hard.

[@jacoba4555]

@@SeivelN fun fact i’m a drummer B) but holy frick this is definitely harder

[@renefisette7046]

Yeah same

[@Bitz00.]

@@jacoba4555 not really in my opinion as a beat saber player and a drummer, because of how you hit the notes, beat saber is much easier for going really fast, but complicated patterns just dont exist in drumming

[@dallasyoung9736]

Mad respect for you dude..... really I need a break after a couple songs and that song is like four songs crammed together nonstop

[@insanelypoortrickshots9850]

3 years later and this is still so impressive.

[@sethjones268]

This took me awhile to beat on expect....what the hell is this! You sir are a damn god !

[@MeowThingy]

I absolutely love this. Mapping the drums in places is a nice touch, and this is exactly what I was looking for over the boring original map that has so many gaps with unmapped notes, and blank notes you can slash in any direction, that make it way too easy. TTFATF is not supposed to be easy. Great job clearing it, by the way!

[@ihatehandles6969]

i hear the other map is so bad with mapping and stuff that its harder because the lack of rhythm and flow

[@MeowThingy]

@@ihatehandles6969 It is definitely not harder.

[@jackmio]

@@MeowThingy well, it seems they're saying its harder because the map isn't made well, not because its actually harder in terms of skill

[@coxandrewj]

Have to agree, the other is definitely not as well made. It is also certainly easier considering there are 1200 notes fewer in the other map despite its poor rhythm.

[@Dragoes375]

Can we just a take moment and just say how fast this guys arms are going throughout this song and the fact he they never missed a singla one is insane

[@mobro]

You are so amazing at this!!! I respect you so much for what amazing talent you have to be able to do this. I aspire to be like you one day! :)

[@oofer_]

Its beautiful... ive looked at this for five hours now

[@slenderbrineattheshow8217]

The fact that I can only play about a minute in before my arms start to burn, you must be some sort of god lol

[@sethhamilton6219]

You know what I think I just figured out beat saber. in guitar hero, you play the guitarist, but in beat saber you play as the drummer. All those beats are the exact same beats from the drums. 🤯

[@Wafflelord-Gaming]

Mad props to you! I would have failed the level at the very beginning. Always cool to see people go ham at beat saber

[@CrixDeveloper]

That is completely insane!!!!

[@HappyBacon777ttv]

Holy shit and I thought the old expert ttfaf was a pain at times. It will take a hell of a grind to beat this map, really reminds me of Fury of the Storm, I still haven't beat that one because of that one part where there is a shit ton of blue notes behind the reds plus moving back and forth. GG!

[@SeivelN]

I found fury of the storm harder, because a lot of the patterns in it just didn't register well in my brain. You've got this one though for sure, you'll beat it with a bit of effort! Good luck and let me know when you do, I want to congratulate you.

[@MrMoozyTheOrochiMain]

I don’t know what makes this guy scarier, the fact that a big chunk of this song is light-speed guitar and drums and yet they can still play it, or the fact that they can move that fast at all…

[@SeivelN]

Honestly wish I had done this one way back when I streamed during a stream, because it would have been even more surprising that I could play this *while reading chat*

[@MrMoozyTheOrochiMain]

@@SeivelN no, MATE, DONT BREAK REALITY EVEN MORE JESUS

[@coxandrewj]

Thank you for uploading as well as sharing the link to the map. Most other ones I can find on youtube are the inferior map that looks like anyone could do it.

[@Monteblanco1]

Mad Swings as always 😆\m/

[@lavendawoofy5363]

He’s a bit of a swinger OwO

[@pacifistart]

Absolute legend

[@dxwoodwardx]

I'm in love with this song.

[@bornofthesea5761]

This is the ultimate big boss of all big bosses throughout history. Conquer it and you ascend far beyond legend status. You become a god.

[@3notdeadyet651]

Finally, a worthy opponent. I will train for this

[@dummyspice4584]

Dang. Super impressive!

[@SeivelN]

Thanks man, glad you like it!

[@gundamliam]

this is weirdly hypnotic

[@alienkeagster2443]

Perfect level for this song.

[@senti2001]

Brooo you're a god 🔥

[@alexanderradcliffe5578]

That was a wild fuckin ride, thanks and hats off to you sir

[@bluediamondbro4281]

Major respect

[@SeivelN]

I majorly respect you!

[@RtfDuck]

I'm.. speechless

[@zacharye1080]

jesus he is a legend

[@px365j7]

Respect

[@Dhutchy2023]

Holy shit bro I am so impressed

[@SeivelN]

I'm glad you're impressed!

[@logionthecreator864]

AMAZING!!!!

[@SeivelN]

No you're amazing!

[@azzzaa2206]

beast that was crazy.

[@SeivelN]

glad you think so :)

[@Seceroth]

You my friend are super human that was very impressive

[@robertmunckin7673]

A true lightsaber duelist has been born

[@DianaDiaz-he2ef]

This is a perfect description of Plan b doing it’s job

[@suitguy969]

This man wildin

[@SeivelN]

wildin' hard.

[@fox-milessavioroffoxes3782]

You have unlocked Ultra Instinct

[@ajhintleman215]

I love this map! Was only able to beat it recently, along with Dankruptmemer's Ghost V2, and decided to see how many other posted this, and for some reason people just play the other version? I'm so confused...it doesn't look nearly as painful, fun, impressive, OR satisfying to play as this map! Anyhow...well played! Also how'd you avoid getting the video blocked by copyright? I didn't even play the real song, I played Through the Fireflies and Flames and it blocked it because the music was TTFAF...

[@Bocktai5]

whats the map? i gotta download it

[@jackmio]

might be able to appeal it because its gameplay

[@RiggedDiceGames]

True Jedi

[@cheesestyx945]

42 second in and I'm already going like wtf!!!

[@redpandafish9288]

Good job your in the epic gamer club now

[@SeivelN]

EPIC

[@maximungamer7080]

The man at the end of the video was like Easy 😎👌

[@_the_n0mad_344]

F in the chat for your arms bro god damn. You did what millions of others couldn't, and for that we salute you

[@renefisette7046]

I can though 🤔

[@Bitz00.]

eh probably only 25k people have tried this map

[@ScoutConvoy]

He is the chosen one.

[@the_internet2]

I think the craziest part is imagining this guys arms

[@GDplayer69420GG]

Guitar hero players have seen *EVERYTHING* in just one video

[@shiptoast1646]

[@ElisaSarah]

So fucking badass. One ot my favo songs of all time.

[@SomethingTM]

Actual padawan training footage

[@_Pangloss]

time to wait until this gets perfected

[@jonathanmunoz137]

this is the real jedi master test

[@laineywillis289]

You my sir are incredible what the fuck insane!!!

[@MrRaahius]

Speed running getting fit I see.

[@BaconKFilms]

How the hell do you fling your sabers so fast holy lord Jesus almighty son of Odin

[@SeivelN]

With great difficulty and reckless abandon.

[@harrisgan8041]

He's basically been lifting bench weights for 2 hours after that whole song

[@noble6897]

Ahhh this brings me Guitar Hero nostalgia lol

[@lupinsredjacket3191]

This dude is the Roronoa Zoro of Beat Saber!

[@andrewlookabaugh635]

So scary, but so beautiful

[@saragabblegoose1075]

awww it sucks when the recordings arent what u expect them to be, like getting glitchy or corrupted, i hope it work out for u soon

[@SeivelN]

Yeah, thanks a lot, I appreciate the kind words and I'm still tryna get it finished.

[@secretname9346]

Beautiful madness!

[@Stack_4_the_underscore_]

Did your arms break or get floppy after that? Holy cow 😯

[@tinhkhucbolero6976]

FUCKING AWESOME!

[@meatcake.-.]

How are you not having a seizure while playing through SEVEN minutes of THIS

[@Bitz00.]

finally someone mentioned the length

[@meatcake.-.]

@@Bitz00. my friend played this entire thing on expert with arrows and on expert + no arrows and even with no arrows he almost passed out playing this song

[@Bitz00.]

@@meatcake.-. damn your friend is pretty good

[@meatcake.-.]

@@Bitz00. yeah no kidding