Laowa Video Marathon 2022 www.venuslens.net/video-marathon-2022-lost-found/
@PinnaclePete Жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see that third-party companies are STILL creating new lenses for micro four thirds! For somebody (like me) who wouldn't be shooting ultra wide very often, a lens like this is perfect! Reasonably sharp, fast, easy aperture control but doesn't break the bank! Good job Laowa! Great images Robin!!
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Thanks Pete, appreciate the kind words, and yes I am so glad to see that third party manufacturers are pushing boundaries for Micro Four Thirds platform!
@andreasrochow517010 ай бұрын
@@robinwong Unfortunately, this lens is dedicated to APS-C sensor format you "suffer" as mft-user the crop factor 2. Imagine it would be for mft-only and without cropping.
@YoSpiff Жыл бұрын
My first reaction was "Why?" I have their 7.5mm and have to be careful to keep my feet out of the image, But after seeing your sample shots with straight lines at the edges, I'm impressed. For me it will depend on the price.
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I appreciate the kind words. I admit this lens is not for everyone, and I also don't need it. However we do need the manufacturers to keep pushing boundaries! Having the widest lens for M43, Laowa deserves some praise!
@mmartel Жыл бұрын
Excellent review, Robin. Good job keeping it real and objective with respect to the strengths and weaknesses of this new Laowa lens. I want to also give props to Laowa for the run of lenses they've been putting out. I've never been that interested in ultrawide or manual focus only lenses. But Laowa's unique lineup, quality, and value is really hard for me to keep ignoring (even if it's not truly Zero D... near Zero D is still very useful and impressive!). I'm pretty sure a Laowa lens will ultimately find its way into my bag...
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words! You should definitely give this lens a try, after all this is indeed the widest M43 lens at the moment.
@fabscams4136 Жыл бұрын
This is a great lens - great review, thank you Robin!
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Thanks Fabs! Appreciate that
@guygaron1162 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Robin for the review! Great pictures!
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Thanks Guy, appreciate the kind words!
@alexanderpieri1971 Жыл бұрын
Uao, this is interesting lens. Thank you Robin! - Although I have the 7-14mm and 8-25mm by Zuiko and 9mm by Leica, this is also interesting lens to consider. You could add in future videos about ultra wide lens their field of view. This Laowa lens have an angle of view of 121.9°. On the iphone the ultra wide lens is 120°, on Zuiko 7-14mm is 114°, on Zuiko 8-25mm is 107° and on Lumix 9mm is 100°. Maybe is a small but t me an important info when I use ultra wide lenses. Thanx again. Great video 👍👍👍
@LebronPhoto1 Жыл бұрын
This looks like an amazing lens given how wide it is.
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
It really is impressive what Laowa came up with
@newfoundmass Жыл бұрын
Thank you as always for your videos, Robin. You're personality is so pleasant that I enjoy watching just for that alone!
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad I can share!
@MikeC2K105 ай бұрын
I want a compact manual lens like this, but around 14mm instead of 6mm. A manual version of the Pana 14mm f/2.5 with focus zone marks would be awesome. Also, the pentagon bokeh are kooky. I have a Pen F half-frame 40mm f/1.4 adapted to MFT and it also has pentagon bokeh. It looks very retro to me.
@finnwang1538 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your rewiews. They are very helpful and informative. Plus, your enthusiasm is contagious 🤗📷. My only wish is that you keep the information on your settings longer in order for me and my fellow amateurs to take note of your experience. I will keep following you, I promise. Thank you so much 🤗📷🇳🇴
@extremelydave Жыл бұрын
As I was watching this, looking at Robin's awesome test photos, I heard my credit card cry....
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
I am innocent!
@Bewar3them00n3 ай бұрын
I’m looking for an ultra wide for night sky photography, primarily because where I’m moving to, there’re is minimal light pollution and the Milky Way is visible very clearly, this looks ideal
@Brightsparks1960 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting video Robin supported by some impressive images. Certainly an appealing lens to me as it provides a unique perspective
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Thanks Vincent for the kind words! I really do like the lens!
@hauke3644 Жыл бұрын
I really like the integration of electronic contacts, it makes handling so easy. Very tempting lens and possibly good accomplishment to my Laowa 10mm, but flare could be a problem for me.
@RicardoTomas68 Жыл бұрын
Eu tenho a muito pesada OLYMPUS 4/3 7-14 f/4 e adoro
@renekalweit5976 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful something I’m was looking for
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Thanks Rene!
@weisserth Жыл бұрын
Looks like this is a must have to architecture and real estate photography if you're using MFT. Probably also great to use for night sky photography and landscape.
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Yeah, too bad I live in the city. I think some night photography with this lens would be awesome
@weisserth Жыл бұрын
@@robinwong Probably too bright for a milky way shot in the city, but star trails could still work with live composite. Maybe combine some traffic light trails with star trails somewhere in the city? The lens should allow to get A LOT into the frame.
@hubey Жыл бұрын
Great review thank you Robin! Can't wait for Laowa to make Autofocus lenses! They said they plan to sometime in the future. Will be a game changer for all sensor sizes!
@Centauri27 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how far "in the future"? Aside from Sigma, I can't think of many third party manufacturers who make AF MFT lenses. Is it that hard I wonder? But I'm glad that they're starting to include the contacts for aperture & exif data.
@TheRealRichardWong Жыл бұрын
Love the small lenses from Laowa, good review Robin!
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Thanks Richard, appreciate that coming from you. Loving the small wide primes Laowa is making!
@smkunder1 Жыл бұрын
Always enjoy your videos, I believe you can get great results with any lens!
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve, you are too kind!
@michaelwalsh7846 Жыл бұрын
Great review. 6mm and the edge at f2 is like saying "I want a Ferrari, but it must have the mpg of a moped!".
@tonigenes5816 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review, Robin ! It was very usefull for me.
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Thanks Toni, glad you found this useful!
@fillerbunnyninjashark271 Жыл бұрын
Man... I just got a MFT camera the other day... And now this. I need this for shooting in Manhattan 😍
@metalfatigue Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Robin. Very helpful. This is the only review I've seen where the lens isn't absolutely perfect, even wide open. Of course I wish it was, but I'd rather have a realistic assessment like yours. I do think, compared to most ultra wides for m43, this lens is so much closer to zero distortion, Laowa's claim is perhaps 95% true. You may still need to correct the distortion, but the amount of correction will be so small, the image quality should not suffer.
@WatchHobbyist10 ай бұрын
The only review I needed to watch. Thanks, you covered everything 🙏
@Bluecloudprod Жыл бұрын
I love your enthusiasm and passion. Great presentation. Excellent knowledge.
@Dampflanze Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review. Really liked it. Not tiring like a lot out there and covering the important aspects of the lens. Also liked the examples photos you provided. Would have liked to see some sports action shoots like skateboarding combined with a flash,ha!
@jallantan8 ай бұрын
Thanks as always for these videos. I have a Panasonic GH5 and G85 and use these mainly for talking head videos. I do have a Laowa 7.5mm (version 1). Do you think it is worth getting a 6mm? If yes, would the cine 2.1T be a better option for me as opposed to the newer 6mm F2 Zero-D? Thank you again.
@TerminatoR99 Жыл бұрын
Love those pictures :)
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@panmaew Жыл бұрын
Love this review, Robin. To get anything comparable at all to this FoV in my film days it would take the made to order only US$10K+ Nikkor AIS 13mm f5.6 (now a mega buck collectible item). That lens is about 3-4 times as heavy and bigger in size and at the max f/5.6 I am not even sure it would be as good as this lens at about f/2.8 (35mm equivalent f-stop).
@lightbox6172 ай бұрын
rectilinear wide angle lenses are necessary but you do need to learn how to use them to best aviod lens flare and "fish eye" effects. with the right camera, you can probably shoot indoors at 5.6. I need a price. Does it fit on a Lumix G9?
@karstengieselmann5569 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the detailed presentation of this lens and sharing your impressions, Robin! Much appreciated, I guess you are the first one to do such a deep dive; at least I have not seen another one so far. I'm thinking of getting this lens as a successor to 7-14/2.8 in my spiral staircase photography. Anyway, I'm wondering how the Laowa results compare to that of the M.Zuiko 8mm F1.8 with fisheye compensation enabled (widest option: 123°). If you have the chance to do a quick comparison of these two options, this would be just great!
@blackice5649 Жыл бұрын
Nice review Robin!
@AndrewOudin Жыл бұрын
thank you!
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Cheers
@laytonalldredge3948 Жыл бұрын
Hello Robin. As a dedicated follower I have a question. I migrated from the Nikon world to M43 about a year ago, buying the new OM1. Now I find myself thinking about a small camera for street photography, etc. Can you compare the PEN 10, Ricoh gxIII, and the LUMIX gs85? It may be an unfair comparison as the Ricoh does not have interchangeable lenses. Even so, I find your perspectives helpful.
@fernandoescubos53888 ай бұрын
Please, Robin, just one question. I already own the Leica DG Summilux 9mm f/1.7 and I´m thinking about bying the Laowa 6mm f2, but I wonder if that one is much more wider than the 9mm and if its worth to buy it. Thanks a lot, your videos are a must.
@JeffBourke Жыл бұрын
Wow I would love to try this!
@_beryonroad Жыл бұрын
thank you for sharing!!
@georgelee7062 Жыл бұрын
Nice photos Robin, are you considering buying this lens?
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Thanks George. As much as I do love the lens, I don't need such a wide coverage. I don't do architecture or interior shooting. For my needs the Panasonic 9mm will suffice.
@angeloplayforone Жыл бұрын
Robin, please review the lenses you get, as this can grow your channel and provide more information to m43 users.
@andreasrochow517010 ай бұрын
My camera allows image stabilization calibration only up to 8 mm. How does your Olympus's I.B.I.S.?
@oscarhagelberg7895 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great review. Do you think I can solve the flare and haze problem by using my hand as a shield?
@freepeace9067 Жыл бұрын
Would have been nice to get vlog selfie perspective like you did with the 9mm Leica to help us choose between the two.
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
No AF, no go. Besides, I used 9mm without thinking, the AF just sticks to my face. Can't be bothered to use manual focus, I'm a photographer not a videographer.
@timelapsebylkunl72 Жыл бұрын
Great review thank you
@wellcomesteven Жыл бұрын
Comparing with the Panasonic 9mm f1.7, which one would you prefer?
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Why would you do that? It is like comparing a 35mm to 85mm lens. Two totally different focal lengths.
@EnricoGaletta Жыл бұрын
hey Robin, very interesting video, thanks 😃. Will you recommend this lens for shooting video indoor? What about comparing to the Panasonic 9mm? Thank you for your time 🤙
@ddsdss256 Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for the honest and comprehensive review. Great images--you point out the flaws but in most cases the rendering is quite good and it's a huge plus that it takes filters. In the (somewhat rare) cases where my Leica 8-18's 107° AoV isn't quite wide enough, I've had to live with the less than stellar shots from my Galaxy S22's 120°. It would be great to have a bit more than that with higher quality glass than a phone's (as well as RAW files, as even the "Expert RAW" app only produces DNGs--useless for me as I don't use Adobe). I'll seriously consider getting this. onion
@alejandrochaconruiz1483 Жыл бұрын
It's incredible to see your videos, I just bought an Olympus Omd EM10 Mark III for you and it's amazing, I have a question for you, a great Micro 4/3 teacher, recommend wide angle and telephoto lenses such as the Olympus Digital 18- 180mm F3.5-6.3 M.zuiko? Like to see your videos📷📸
@zarrow506 ай бұрын
Not insane when Nikon does a Full frame 10mm or is it Sigma?
@DJColinCook Жыл бұрын
Nice review Robin, thanks. Is there a filter thread and if so what size please? And did you try a filter at all? For me the lens would be used mostly for landscapes and I often use filters. Currently I have the laowa 7.5mm f2 and can use filters with that
@ddsdss256 Жыл бұрын
58mm
@soupedrocosta Жыл бұрын
my doubt is between this lens and the lumix leica 9mm 1.7 I'm really undecided. Can you give me an honest opinion? greetings from Brazil
@marinanotebaart Жыл бұрын
thank you Robin for the review, I am very curious about a comparison with the 9mm Panasonic 1.7
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
There is no comparison. Both are very different lenses. One at 6mm, and one at 9mm, the field of view are so far different.
@edwintan736 ай бұрын
may i know how is it compare to 7.5mm ?
@enzocannizzo8744 Жыл бұрын
Robin .. Hello and wishing you well .. Robin .. I need guidance on the follow matter . M43 Panasonic v Olympus .. What is the best way I may contact to explain the specifics .. Thank you in advance for ANY guidance !!
@brianmiller921 Жыл бұрын
+Robin Wong have you had a chance to shoot Milky Way images with this lens?
@lvcc560 Жыл бұрын
I have no need for this lens but it looks like a great piece. Nice review, I hope it sells people on it for those who are looking for such a nifty wide angle. One question though, for you Robin, how do you think it would handle on the GM1, being that it doesn't have a large handgrip? The barrel of the lens seems flush with the mount on your EM1iii, which could be a huge plus on the GM1 in terms of ergonomics.
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
GM1 has handling and ergonomic issues on its own, regardless of which lens you use. I think the Laowa is still quite a light lens, at around 180g, so it should not be an issue with GM1. And you control the aperture from the camera.
@warrenmartin8309 Жыл бұрын
Hi Robin, good vlog, really like the images. Did you have to do much correction with the verticals in post? Do you know how it stacks up against the Super Wide in the iPhone 13 & 14 Pros?
@stevenw3393 Жыл бұрын
What the iPhone super wide cannot do is deliver the clarity that the Laowa 6mm can. I’ve done 1:1 comparisons between an EM1 Mk3 with Laowa 6mm cine lens and the iPhone 13 super wide camera. On a 27-inch monitor, full screen, not zoomed in, there’s absolutely no comparison. The images from the iPhone are utter trash compared to the EM1. Drop down to an iPad-sized screen, and it gets harder to tell at quick glance, but on closer inspection, the iPhone images don’t hold up. On an iPhone-sized screen it’s hard to tell much difference without zooming in. Of course, phones these days do a lot of real-time processing to enhance images, and it’s most apparent, to me anyway, in “improved” colors and lighting, which you can do to camera photos in post. I’d argue that sometimes the color and lighting of phone images are over processed and, arguably, fake looking. At any rate, I believe the iPhone super wide is 13mm, so the 6mm (i.e. 12mm) captures a little wider view, but they’re both very similar in terms of the captured scene. I’ve not felt the need to correct any portraits, or landscapes for that matter, from the 6mm. The 6mm renders very straight lines across the entire image. If anything, in rare cases, I’ve noticed the 6mm images are slightly more compressed in the center of the image compared to the iPhone super wide, but they both stretch objects the farther from center you go. Hope this helps.
@warrenmartin8309 Жыл бұрын
@@stevenw3393 Thank you Steven that is really helpful.
@ludwigohallorans6395 Жыл бұрын
I have the TTArtisan 7.5mm F2.0 and I love it, but that one is not rectilinear, and its manual only.
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Yeah that is a fisheye, a different lens
@pbenjlo4 ай бұрын
Does it also active MF assist automatically when you start focusing ?
@Noble_r7173 ай бұрын
It does on my gx9, yes
@blackice5649 Жыл бұрын
Where can this lens be purchased other than from the vendor site? Any retailers selling it yet?
@lenongrumpies3981 Жыл бұрын
Can you please explain ? Why m zuiko tele lens does not work in raw file. I used m zuiko 40-150m to take picture the result in jpeg was zoom but for the raw result just like normal picture ( not zoom). Asked this to some olympus user but they don't know
@nicolaspetit8791 Жыл бұрын
perhaps you used digital zoom, which is a crop of your picture. if you zoom with the zoomring on your lens there is no difference in filed of view in jpg and raw
@jordanahamed4316 Жыл бұрын
Should I get this for my BMPCC4K?
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
If you need that much width, then yes.
@ericwolff6059 Жыл бұрын
Nice looking lens, just a shame it is NZ$1000 here in New Zealand.
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
I don't think the price is unreasonable. Considering all ultra wide angle lenses from Olympus and Panasonic, the 7-14mm, 8-25mm, 8-18mm, are significantly more expensive (double or triple the price of Laowa 6mm), and Laowa is still the widest lens of them all, I think that asking price is justified. And if you need this lens, I believe it is almost like a godsent! Small price to pay, if it brings in the results that some people may need, especially those that need every bit of width in their frame.
@AoyagiAichou Жыл бұрын
So is it physically challenging to create ultra wide angles for MFT?
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Considering both Olympus and Panasonic do not have 6mm yet, I'd say yes, it is challenging.
@falseusername Жыл бұрын
Reviewing F/2 lens and not to try it in low-light scenes is kind of a crime.
@_krakra_ Жыл бұрын
Comparing with panasonic 9mm 1.7 would be dope
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
That's comparing a lion to an apple.
@_krakra_ Жыл бұрын
@@robinwong why if i might ask. Because af , or?
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Two different focal lengths, built for different purposes and shooting scenarios. What works for 6mm doss not work for 9mm. What I use 9mm for, the 6mm would be too wide and won't do the job as effectively. Much like comparing a 35mm to 50mm lenses. Both are not the same and they should not be compared.
@_krakra_ Жыл бұрын
@@robinwong ok. Then i need to rethink what i would use it for. Never thought 6mm angle of view is that different compare to 9mm
@Lordvader330 Жыл бұрын
if you have to correct for distortion in post. I can do that with my 8mm 1.8 fisheye. I'll pass on these Chinese products.
@robinwong Жыл бұрын
Reasons why the 6mm Laowa is better for wide angle photography than any fisheye lens: 1. After correction to full rectilinear, the fisheye loses significant amount of width, and will no longer be as wide as 6mm true rectilinear 2. After severe correction, the fisheye image will lose a lot of sharpness and contrast away from the center of image. When technical control is important, shooting non distorted interiors and architecture that clients demand sharp corner to corner performance, the fisheye lens fails due to excessive pixel stretching. There are several other flaws exaggerated due to this, but I think you get my point. 3. The Laowa is cheaper. If you want to buy a Fisheye lens, use it as a fisheye lens. Don't use it as something else. It CANNOT replace a true rectilinear ultra wide without some significant compromises. I can understand if someone says they don't need such a wide lens, that is fine, honestly I don't need it too. However, for those who shoot a lot of interiors, and architecture, and need every bit of width they can squeeze into their shot, the Laowa 6mm is a godsent.
@tonigenes5816 Жыл бұрын
This is the widest MFT liniar lens. And you can use filters on it, unlike fisheye on which you can't.
@RayTaylorQ Жыл бұрын
I just got mine! I bought it without hesitation as it reminds me of one of my all time favourite lenses…the Zeiss 38mm Biogon as attached to the Hasselblad SW/C. I used that lens in more situations than was considered normal at the time. That rectilinear lens had only a 90 degree field of view and this one is 120… Now I need to learn how to correct the slight barrel distortion in post.
@martinr.6693 Жыл бұрын
OMG Robin how fantastic is that! I love my Laowa 10mm, its super small and light and mega sharp, but 6mm is a complete different world, fantastic! Just need to find a financial supporter … 🤔😳🫣 Thx for nice video👍☺️