Inside a focusable work light with serious lithium battery "issues".

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@m4xwellmurd3r
@m4xwellmurd3r 8 жыл бұрын
"Don't try this at home by the way...What am I saying. Try it at home if you wish. I'm doing it" -Clive 2016
@AttilaAsztalos
@AttilaAsztalos 8 жыл бұрын
Hey - it's still miles safer than neon transformers... ;)
@knusperkrusteamstitzel7251
@knusperkrusteamstitzel7251 8 жыл бұрын
or playing with microwave transformers and magnetrons ;-)
@phils4634
@phils4634 8 жыл бұрын
Especially using Clive's FART Transformer (what with methane + air being a rather explosive mixture - one spark and you're curtains, mate!)
@TunsaMcHaggis
@TunsaMcHaggis 8 жыл бұрын
"I could enter by the other end, this is going to end in tears isnt it" oh my
@SeanBZA
@SeanBZA 8 жыл бұрын
8800mAh is the total charge you can put into it over the cycle life of the cells. ie 10 cycles of use, and 5 were used in the factory.
@jasejj
@jasejj 8 жыл бұрын
SeanBZA I think that's probably an overestimate:-)
@pauls5745
@pauls5745 4 жыл бұрын
hahaha
@toolthoughts
@toolthoughts 8 жыл бұрын
tearing into a lithium cell with pliers... safety squints engaged!
@LethalBacon479
@LethalBacon479 8 жыл бұрын
Another AVE fan I see!!
@trouxa952
@trouxa952 8 жыл бұрын
stereomike111 Have your mom on speed dial! Corntact!!!
@FennecTECH
@FennecTECH 8 жыл бұрын
I love AVE
@blairsharpe2798
@blairsharpe2798 8 жыл бұрын
What's AVE?
@FennecTECH
@FennecTECH 8 жыл бұрын
youtube chabnnel
@Rick1885
@Rick1885 8 жыл бұрын
I was very disappointed when no sand poured out of the battery. On a side note, those chargers are hilarious.
@zh84
@zh84 8 жыл бұрын
RescueRick911 Yes - the choice is between one that doesn't charge it at all, and one that overcharges it so much the batteries might explode.
@dos541
@dos541 8 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many people will start their car on fire with this thing
@bitelaserkhalif
@bitelaserkhalif 8 жыл бұрын
RescueRick911 or smuggle cocains inside of those...
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 8 жыл бұрын
I was rooting for dirt, or rice.
@ABaumstumpf
@ABaumstumpf 8 жыл бұрын
The best is when they stick in some coin-cells :)
@charliedobbie8916
@charliedobbie8916 8 жыл бұрын
13:53 “What’s the best way into this... Violence, I’m guessing.” :-D
@zh84
@zh84 8 жыл бұрын
Charlie Dobbie Do you know what a Glasgow kiss is? :-)
@cheezstake6976
@cheezstake6976 8 жыл бұрын
"I may have to enter this at the other end. This may end in tears."
@MrEdrftgyuji
@MrEdrftgyuji 7 жыл бұрын
Top tip - one of those adjustable pipe cutters work very well at opening battery cases - you can get them at Wickes, B&Q, etc.
@TDGalea
@TDGalea 8 жыл бұрын
"This isn't a good idea. Excellent." Why I love you.
@CaptainChrisMoore
@CaptainChrisMoore 8 жыл бұрын
I'm interested in what kind of ebay feedback you leave lol
@chartle1
@chartle1 8 жыл бұрын
Banggood is advertising 9,900 mah cells. Someone called them out and they came back with an odd run around reply and in the end they said they were really 1,500 mah.
@TheJohn8765
@TheJohn8765 8 жыл бұрын
Heh. I bought some Ultrafire "6000 mAh" cells from ebay (knowing full well they were generally about 1000 ma, but quite cheap and with a protection circuit), and I opened one up out of interest. Small cell as expected. And compacted *sand* to make it feel "quality in the hand". Lol. Chinese sellers are such good scammers.
@cebruthius
@cebruthius 8 жыл бұрын
Serious request: You should start selling t-shirts with slogans like "Explosion containment pie dish" and "Vise of knowledge" etc. on them
@cebruthius
@cebruthius 8 жыл бұрын
"Let me get my snips"
@renxula
@renxula 8 жыл бұрын
Not the good snips. Also, "Let's take it to bits!"
@webchimp
@webchimp 8 жыл бұрын
"What could possibly go wrong?"
@iainbanachowicz8318
@iainbanachowicz8318 8 жыл бұрын
righteo ummm ok Cheap chinese ebay shit One moment please
@Motorman2112
@Motorman2112 8 жыл бұрын
"quite a modest..."
@evilutionltd
@evilutionltd 8 жыл бұрын
This 18650 over-rating is getting silly now.
@TheSpotify95
@TheSpotify95 7 жыл бұрын
There's now some on eBay that are rated 10,000mAh... even though the theoretical maximum is Panasonic's 3400mAh cell.
@sqeeye3102
@sqeeye3102 7 жыл бұрын
There are legit 3500 mAh cells now. I have some that I've tested all the way to 3550 or so. These cells came in my Olight s30r iii flashlights. Olight is a Chinese company that makes very high quality lights and sells very well rated batteries with them. FYI, Clive tested an Olight magnetic charger a while back and liked it a lot as well.
@n0username0n
@n0username0n 4 жыл бұрын
Ive seen 13000mAh and 16000mAh on ebay in the past year. Shits hilarious and so so many have sold.
@pauls5745
@pauls5745 4 жыл бұрын
overstated by 4x!! will they soon advertise 12,500 mAh?
@deviatefishy
@deviatefishy 8 жыл бұрын
I love it when these videos arrive just in time for dinner.
@slimysi99
@slimysi99 8 жыл бұрын
Just a thought. Would a plumbers' rotating tube cutter be a handy cell opener?
@michaelcalvin42
@michaelcalvin42 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, yes it would be. I've opened batteries using one before. Ah, childhood memories.
@FedoraSpunk
@FedoraSpunk 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelcalvin42 thanks for the info!! I have some lithiums that look like they're a little too full :)
@brianjrichman
@brianjrichman 8 жыл бұрын
I knew it... "It seems quite a good deal... except..." That has to be one of the classic lines form you Clive. Nice.
@sleeptyper
@sleeptyper 8 жыл бұрын
Whenever i feel that humanity has some hope, all i need is a video about chinese "quality products" to remind me of the reality.
@Woogoo336
@Woogoo336 8 жыл бұрын
Humanity in general has hope, but the Chinese have a few things to worry about...
@JohnDoe-qx3zs
@JohnDoe-qx3zs 8 жыл бұрын
+Woogoo336 Overpopulation being the biggest one, and the cause of most others. Treating humans as disposable is a sensible long term strategy, which also diverts blame, unlike the old policy of trying to directly limit production of excess humans.
@Woogoo336
@Woogoo336 8 жыл бұрын
John Doe Treating humans as disposable, like slavery? That's not good. Who gets to decide who is disposable? Is everyone disposable? Great place for extreme racism and bigotry to start. That's kinda the paradox of population control, how can you do it without becoming corrupt and tyrannical (and mass murdering) and/or getting rebelled against?
@gillenzfluff8380
@gillenzfluff8380 8 жыл бұрын
Woogoo336 Release some predator animals they aren't racist at all!
@jtveg
@jtveg 3 жыл бұрын
14:52 *_"Don't try this at home, by the way cause ah, well I mean, who am I to say you know. Try it at home if you wish"._* 😉👍🏻 No other KZbinr has ever had the guts to say this before. Brilliant. Thanks so much for sharing. 👌🏻
@69mrsteveo
@69mrsteveo 8 жыл бұрын
Hand rolled like a cuban cigar.
@69mrsteveo
@69mrsteveo 8 жыл бұрын
AvE fan here.. Keep it in a vise.As an aussie like Dave on EEVblog.
@icsamppl
@icsamppl 8 жыл бұрын
Don't turn it on, TAKE IT APART!
@1marcelfilms
@1marcelfilms 8 жыл бұрын
i cant stand ave or eev blog with their annoying hosts
@joeennis2571
@joeennis2571 5 жыл бұрын
hand rolled on the thighs of Chinese virgins
@Eddygeek18
@Eddygeek18 8 жыл бұрын
Your such an intelligent man. I have watched 100+ of your videos and i love every single one of them. Just listening and learning from each. I started watching with little to no knowledge in electronics i thought i knew abit but you have showed me otherwise lol. I love learning and watching these videos defiantly teach :) Thanks for making videos and i look forward to watching them in the future :)
@GadgetAddict
@GadgetAddict 8 жыл бұрын
I think I'd rather have a classic 18650 torch with a sliding focus control.
@stridermt2k
@stridermt2k 8 жыл бұрын
Regarding the low capacity batteries: Could it be that they are produced in such numbers that the battery manufacturer(s) have/has developed a QC process akin to resistors and such components that they separate the failed cells out by how much capacity they have then sell them to mass production houses so that the battery producer still makes money even on the "bad" ones.
@Thermalions
@Thermalions 8 жыл бұрын
That's not a QA failed battery though. They've so little in them that they'd never reach a decent capacity and the 8800mAh marking is just pure fantasy.
@stridermt2k
@stridermt2k 8 жыл бұрын
Thermal Ions I appreciate your insight, thank you!
@JasperJanssen
@JasperJanssen 8 жыл бұрын
Thermal Ions well, not *just* a qa fail battery. It could be a QA fail and then sold to the people who made them into a fake cell. But it looks like they're just made like shit.
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 8 жыл бұрын
Perhaps there was a defect on the manufacturing line so it wasn't winding them properly any longer, and they noticed that and threw away the whole batch. They were never going to be high-capacity battery with electrodes this short, but perhaps they were intended to be more properly packed. Then someone else picked up the junk under the pretence of recycling it, labeled it up and sold them on.
@lolman123401
@lolman123401 7 жыл бұрын
Actually with such low capacity cells, usually they're tiny cells inside of the 18650 case and the rest is filled with sand (which is why they were dented)
@brianartillery
@brianartillery 8 жыл бұрын
"What's the best way into this? Violence, I'm guessing..." And that's what electronics is all about. Great stuff. Informative, and entertaining, as always. Nice one.
@Szlater
@Szlater 8 жыл бұрын
There was a time when you could report a U.K. supplier to Trading Standards and action would be taken against them for selling faulty, dangerous or fraudulently advertised goods, but sadly it doesn't seem to be the case any more what with the cuts to council budgets and the proliferation of resellers of Chinese tat. It'll probably take something truly horrific to happen before we see any change.
@Thermalions
@Thermalions 8 жыл бұрын
The actual seller is likely still in China, just with a distribution warehouse in the UK staffed by an illegally underpaid patsy who doesn't speak english and just puts stuff in boxes to be posted.
@Szlater
@Szlater 8 жыл бұрын
Thermal Ions You are almost certainly correct.
@Szlater
@Szlater 8 жыл бұрын
Saud Siddiqui Huh? Nothing to do with "political correctness", everything to do with Trading Standards and local council budgets being cut to the bone thanks to austerity, and the proliferation of cheap Chinese imports making any sort of control almost impossible.
@ahaveland
@ahaveland 8 жыл бұрын
Luckily, not many baby elephants use US swimming pools...
@andywood2012
@andywood2012 8 жыл бұрын
People buy these devices directly from Chinese suppliers, they are usually sent by "free china mail" and pay no VAT or duty and as such the buyer takes on the risks directly. This lamp looks a great product if you bin the batteries and chargers at a fraction of a branded price product, but with any purchase like this you should known what you are buying and how to test it before you use it. If you are not able, then buy through a regular supplier, you will pay VAT and duties, as well as importer costs and profits, and the product will by liable to EU safety regulations.
@ChrisD4335
@ChrisD4335 8 жыл бұрын
If the power goes out and the people next door ask to barrow a flashlight I bet Clive tells um oh sorry I don't have one.
@KarlBaron
@KarlBaron 8 жыл бұрын
He took all his apart
@m4xwellmurd3r
@m4xwellmurd3r 8 жыл бұрын
He'll tell them "I have all the parts that make flash lights, but no actual flashlights"
@TheRealColBosch
@TheRealColBosch 8 жыл бұрын
"Give me thirty minutes, I'll build you one." And then it has twenty warm white LEDs, a solar panel, and a disco mode. And farts fire.
@WolfmanDude
@WolfmanDude 8 жыл бұрын
They will get a free tour thru his flashlight museum and will have the choise of 5000 flashlight models in the gift shop.
@Heimbasteln
@Heimbasteln 8 жыл бұрын
ChrisD4335 If the power goes out clives house would be brighter than it is when the power is on, because he finally has an opportunity to test all the lamps
@joshuabest100
@joshuabest100 8 жыл бұрын
you know what this means Clive you now have to plug the car charger in while it's on muhahaha
@m4xwellmurd3r
@m4xwellmurd3r 8 жыл бұрын
I wanna see this. Load it with those batteries and plug it in with that car charger. I wanna see something go bang.
@markflack9191
@markflack9191 8 жыл бұрын
so do i, lets see it explode.
@SquareBiscuitProductions
@SquareBiscuitProductions 8 жыл бұрын
We all do! #BigCliveGoesBang!
@BrokebackBob
@BrokebackBob 8 жыл бұрын
Clive, get one of those Atomic LED flashlights advertised "As Seen On TV" that claims to have some ridiculous amount of lumen output.
@SproutyPottedPlant
@SproutyPottedPlant 8 жыл бұрын
Yes please do, my Dad just showed me a 'bargain' on eBay of one of those lights, my Olights, Thrunites, Zebralights probably out shine them easily.
@drkastenbrot
@drkastenbrot 8 жыл бұрын
Knuckles the Echidna those lights are usually powered with AAAs. They dont stand a chance even against cheapos like the forrader c12
@anca30000
@anca30000 8 жыл бұрын
One of these days, your nickname will be "The 3 Finger guy" But... You're the best Ever!!!! Your sense of humor is great!!!
@CarstenSvendsen
@CarstenSvendsen 8 жыл бұрын
"Of course, AvE just saws it in half" - Shots Fired!
@mattq41
@mattq41 8 жыл бұрын
Your explosion containment pie-dish won you my subscription
@lyfandeth
@lyfandeth 7 жыл бұрын
Clive, in the states we can buy knitted kevlar "tradh handling" gloves in sny hardware store, about $5 a pair. They're fireproof, cutproof, good protection and good dexterity when you are working with things that might bite. In case you decide to become a pianist and need all those fingers. :-)
@Thereal111t
@Thereal111t 8 жыл бұрын
Explosion containment pie dish. This is my new favorite channel.
@Peter_S_
@Peter_S_ 8 жыл бұрын
_"violating the integrity of the curvaceous cell in a dramatic manor"_ I love Bigclivedotcom
@dustinhipskind7665
@dustinhipskind7665 8 жыл бұрын
For getting the lithium cell open, toenail clippers work well to pry open the sealed end. Then once the sealed end is lifted around the circumference, needle-nosed plyers can be used to peel the outer casing down by rolling it.
@MrSmith336
@MrSmith336 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Clive for the video. I have never deconstructed a Li++ battery. Appreciate the view of its internals..
@namespacetoosmall
@namespacetoosmall 8 жыл бұрын
Always nice when the ECP-D comes out. :)
@renton9999
@renton9999 7 жыл бұрын
clive, what you need is a fine-toothed hack saw, a clamp, and a guide rig so you can saw open batteries the long way (just enough to split open the case) to the point cutters can do the rest of the job
@JavaRatusso
@JavaRatusso 8 жыл бұрын
You are way too cool Clive! You tear into the same products I buy but that I have not dared to peer inside. Keep making these vids as it's far more entertaining watching and listening to you! Cheers from Texas.
@zandane
@zandane 8 жыл бұрын
Gah... Now I feel like a horrible child... I've sent one of these to my parents... I'm glad they don't really use it too often, time to give them a call, see if I can get them to see if it's made just as cheaply
@kg4boj
@kg4boj 8 жыл бұрын
"What am I to say? Try it at home if you wish, I'm doing it!"
@iamdarkyoshi
@iamdarkyoshi 8 жыл бұрын
Clive, you know we all wanted you to charge the cells with the included car adapter. Also, you should replace the charge jack with a micro USB jack and add a TP4056 charger board.
@aaryjan
@aaryjan 8 жыл бұрын
3:39 : is the typical max of a car (lead acid) battery is 13.8, is 14.4 typical when you are driving and you sort of get an inbetween value of that battery itself (which may irl be a bit lower by itself naturally) and what is coming from the car charging circuitry?
@gordonmcmillan883
@gordonmcmillan883 8 жыл бұрын
Looks like somebody bought the light, the batteries, and the chargers separately in bulk and soled them as an ( inappropriate ) set?
@googletitsfost
@googletitsfost 8 жыл бұрын
The typical "the connector fits so it must work" kind?
@drkastenbrot
@drkastenbrot 8 жыл бұрын
Moose the connector must fit and ill take the cheapest available
@JerryEricsson
@JerryEricsson 8 жыл бұрын
Cool linemans pliers, used to wear a set of those with my Amy field uniform, way back when I was a field wireman.
@PetRatty
@PetRatty 8 жыл бұрын
might get one of these, thanks Clive. I need a new car
@tomatolicious
@tomatolicious 8 жыл бұрын
Take a shot every time there was a sexual innuendo in the 18650 teardown
@annelisemeier283
@annelisemeier283 8 жыл бұрын
tomatolicious if I wanted to get hammerd Id just ex a bottle, same effect
@gilessteve
@gilessteve 8 жыл бұрын
I bought a cheap 'Cree' bicycle light with four 18650 Li cells. When I took the cells apart two of them were in fact dummy cells with no functionality at all! Replaced them with two Li cells salvaged from a very old Nokia phone and all is well three years later.
@Estabanwatersaz
@Estabanwatersaz 8 жыл бұрын
ANOTHER good one Clive. A thousand thanks.
@Folsomdsf2
@Folsomdsf2 8 жыл бұрын
The lens assembly is.. rather reasonable, I was surprised.
@Klonkiller361
@Klonkiller361 8 жыл бұрын
The famous last words of an electrician: "what could possibly go wrong?"
@-yeme-
@-yeme- 8 жыл бұрын
you should definitely put one of the batteries on to charge with the car charger and leave it to see what happens. in the pie dish ofc, so its guaranteed to be safe
@mavos1211
@mavos1211 6 жыл бұрын
Clive your knowledge of electronics, circuits and electrics is incredible but what I find just as impressive if not more is your knowledge of dismantling shit.
@MrBrymstond
@MrBrymstond 8 жыл бұрын
This is going to end up in tears... EPIC!
@phillipbartlett1819
@phillipbartlett1819 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if that's a hichikers guide to the Galaxy quote, lol.
@Willielikesmonkeys
@Willielikesmonkeys 8 жыл бұрын
"Jam packed with chemicals", Now that sounds like a good time at Clive's house to me.
@BenjaminGoose
@BenjaminGoose 8 жыл бұрын
Regarding li-ion battery capacities, currently the highest capacity available at the moment is 3600mAh and is produced by Panasonic (and possibly others), but they are quite expensive. I recently found a 4-pack of 3400mAh (and they are, I tested them) Panasonic batteries for about £10. Was very pleased!
@sirp0p0
@sirp0p0 8 жыл бұрын
Come on clive, that's a high quality hand rolled Chinese cell. You don't get that kind of quality and uniqueness anywhere else!
@CatNolara
@CatNolara 8 жыл бұрын
As it is with almost every cheap chinese product: most of the work is done, you just have to finish it yourself ;)
@svampebob007
@svampebob007 8 жыл бұрын
"Don't try this at home, I mean who am I to say? try at home if you wish, I'm doing it" -bigclivedotcom PSA of the year!
@johnspringer9082
@johnspringer9082 8 жыл бұрын
Good video Clive. You know the car charger and batteries must be tested. I may have a line on Titanium pie plates (bomb shields)
@cogidubnus1953
@cogidubnus1953 8 жыл бұрын
Just a thought...do Clive's dustmen get danger money?
@speakerfreak2000
@speakerfreak2000 8 жыл бұрын
I recently bought a cheap flashlight which takes 18650 cells. It came with the same rubbish 1 resistor only car charger and paper weight 18650 cells. But a 4.2volt wall charger putting out 4.15 +- volt. I have some panasonic cells for it. They are non protected ones though. Am i save charging the 18650 with the wall charger, or should i charge them externally with a 18650 charger?
@secretivesquirrelstudios
@secretivesquirrelstudios 6 жыл бұрын
I bought a couple of these lamps about a year back, without the batteries thankfully (and considerably cheaper), the lamp unit itself actually works pretty well and is decently made, but mine has a UV element (about 390nm) instead of the flashing mode . This UV mode wasn't mentioned at all by the seller, but makes it about twice as useful to me. The chargers which came with them is 4.2v, but seemingly cut out the instant any load was applied to them, To make it worse, one of them fell apart leaving a pin in the power socket. The chargers went straight in the bin after that.
@woooweee
@woooweee 8 жыл бұрын
Good to know, many cheap headlamps have suspiciously cheap versions which include the charger and batteries.
@JerryEricsson
@JerryEricsson 5 жыл бұрын
I picked up a flashlight with the same exact head but on a regular type flash lantern type body, it takes 3 18650's the entire unit is made from aluminum, rather heavy and extremely nice when working in tight areas, has a top handle and will stay on flat surfaces rather nicely
@8bpspfreak2
@8bpspfreak2 8 жыл бұрын
I would just deattach the battery pack from the PCB and put the contacts on a seperate 18650 charging board with protection. Then stick the output contacts to the actual battery pads on the PCB. Also of course solder the input wires onto the 18650 charger board, toss the chargers to a different universe and just use a USB --> tip plug of the proper size to charge/use the batteries/light.
@GitGoodGaming
@GitGoodGaming 8 жыл бұрын
Hoorah! New episode!
@GitGoodGaming
@GitGoodGaming 8 жыл бұрын
Explode the batteries with the 12v car charger xD
@jaylund7426
@jaylund7426 8 жыл бұрын
Zachary Strickler Agree
@Labsheriff
@Labsheriff 8 жыл бұрын
Finding all these new devices on Ebay must be a practice thing - when I go on and look around I spend countless hrs scrolling through tons of identical, me-too items. Never seem to find any variety - the Zen of Clive eludes me.
@-yeme-
@-yeme- 8 жыл бұрын
the advanced search feature is good for when theres loads of identical listings getting in your way, put in a keyword they share to exclude from your results
@HuntersMoon78
@HuntersMoon78 8 жыл бұрын
Why do they insist on putting that irritating flashing mode on led torches
@bills6093
@bills6093 8 жыл бұрын
You know you have to use the car charger and see what happens, right? You can't get away with teasing us like that. Nice video.
@JonathanWellskcender
@JonathanWellskcender 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent video as always. Do you know what the voltage of the cells when you received them? Maybe the 18650's were sat at a low voltage for too long, degrading the capacity. (Not that they were ever anywhere close to the advertised 8000mah; but maybe 800mah.)
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 8 жыл бұрын
The voltage was good on them when they arrived.
@rockyfosgate
@rockyfosgate 8 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Wells I've had many cheap Chinese 18650 with a similar capacity.
@JonathanWellskcender
@JonathanWellskcender 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply. Such a shame and waste that they'd make such a low capacity cell. I wonder what the cost difference is between making a ~150mah cell and a ~2500 mah cell is.
@Pentti_Hilkuri
@Pentti_Hilkuri 8 жыл бұрын
Are all 3 so low capacity?
@ABaumstumpf
@ABaumstumpf 8 жыл бұрын
I think the packaging, storage and shipping is the biggest factor in cost. i'd bet that just for the production alone the difference is a few cents.
@Catrik
@Catrik 8 жыл бұрын
WOW! I noticed the on/off button looks similiar to what I have in my chinese headlamp, otherwhise is, ofc, looks completely different. It has the SOS mode too! I've had it for many years and didnt know about it :D
@ElectricGears
@ElectricGears 8 жыл бұрын
I suspect that the construction of the cells is done to allow the scammers to use the same equipment to make them as the real cells. All they have to do is temporally change a setting on the winding machine during the night shift and they can switch over to fake crap. Plus they don't have to worry about scrupulous potential customers wanting to inspect the factory and finding extra incriminating machines.
@DielectricVideos
@DielectricVideos 8 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the loose wrapping of the electrodes in the cells was done purposefully to make them more tolerant of overcharging? The extra air-space could provide expansion room for off-gassing of electrolyte during overcharge, which could then recombine later after the charger has been removed.
@Ale.K7
@Ale.K7 8 жыл бұрын
I was expecting both chargers to be 5V. The wall charger disappointed me, but the car charger is pretty exciting!
@GadgetBoy
@GadgetBoy 8 жыл бұрын
Did anyone elce catch that the focus ring is labeled "dimmer"?
@ciprianwinerElectronicManiac
@ciprianwinerElectronicManiac 8 жыл бұрын
It's called the same on my cheap chinese focusable flashlights.
@codebeard
@codebeard 8 жыл бұрын
Speaking of focus and LEDs, do you know what I should search for if I want a discrete LED with an extremely focused beam? I want to do an in-class experiment with mirrors/lenses, but I am concerned that if I use a (low power red) laser that children might not be smart enough to blink/look away if it's accidentally reflected in their direction. I thought maybe just a non-laser LED might be safer, but I am not sure if they come in versions with a low (high?) viewing angle.
@maicod
@maicod 8 жыл бұрын
Could you measure the voltage when you connect the car adapter to your bench power supply @ 13.8 V but then when its gone through the circuit board (where it goes into the batteries) ?
@ricksanchez7999
@ricksanchez7999 7 жыл бұрын
xD I like this guy always going out of his way and tearing into stuff- when he can. I like how he does all the math behind it as well, very good. I like tearing into electronics myself, and I can say that he deserves more subs. Best of KZbin I'd say. BigCliv- Thank you.
@blackout57
@blackout57 8 жыл бұрын
I like your videos, they are fair. I like them mostly because you are not angry like the others. But use some real "fireproof" gloves. If one day a lithium battery burns you will get seriously injured. The plastic of your gloves can melt on your skin. I say that for you, and for the peoples that will do the same after viewing your videos. Please keep continuing to be so kind on your videos. I really like it.
@spudhead169
@spudhead169 8 жыл бұрын
I don't get it, if there's just a resistor inline with the 13.7V input, then shouldn't the output also be 13.7V if there's no load on it??? And shouldn't the output voltage drop under load?
@ferrumignis
@ferrumignis 8 жыл бұрын
You are correct, I also wondered about this.
@ethanpoole3443
@ethanpoole3443 8 жыл бұрын
SpudHead I did not get a close look at the PCB, but it is possible that the LED was drawing power from the load side of the resistor, which would pull the voltage down a bit with a 68-ohm resistor inline. But, otherwise, you would expect to see nearly the same voltage on both sides of the resistor since the 10-megohm impedance of the meter will cause very little voltage drop across a 68-ohm resistor.
@spudhead169
@spudhead169 8 жыл бұрын
Yes that's probably why, there did look like there was another resistor on that board which I guess is the limiter for the LED, as there's no way that LED was drawing 200mA. So my guess is that 68 ohm resistor is inline with the input/output, and like you said, the load side of that resistor is connected through another resistor and LED to ground.
@Woogoo336
@Woogoo336 8 жыл бұрын
Could you actually build protection into the flashlight? It looked like it has enough room.
@gordonlawrence3537
@gordonlawrence3537 8 жыл бұрын
You can but some extremely small protection circuits off fleabay and some of them even work!
@drkastenbrot
@drkastenbrot 8 жыл бұрын
Woogoo336 yes, theres little boards available on ebay for the appropriate current. I would recommend sticking in a micro usb charging board tho.
@gordonlawrence3537
@gordonlawrence3537 8 жыл бұрын
drkastenbrot is right. There have been some reviewed by Julien Ilet that work for sure.
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah i bought some MicroUSB charging boards with built in over discharge protection, they seem to be well designed. This looks like a proper solution.
@gavincurtis
@gavincurtis 8 жыл бұрын
Siana, I saw those too. Definitely the way to go. But I think there is still "the other half" which is usually incorporated into the lipo battery pack. A charge/discharge control chip with dual FET. Not sure how it would work with separate cells like this. Unless they have similar protection internally.
@GeneraleRus
@GeneraleRus 8 жыл бұрын
I was wondering, there is at least ONE of these worklight (or even normal LED chinese flashlights) that don't have the stupid flashing and low power mode, but just straight up full power? working on the 18650 cells? It seems impossible for me to understand if ebay ones aren't multimode
@TheEightBitLink
@TheEightBitLink 8 жыл бұрын
LEDs in lights like that usually are Cree, though they tend to be low-binned Crees since it's cheaper and easier to get a low-binned Cree than it is to try and knock off Cree.
@criggie
@criggie 3 жыл бұрын
Clive - how should one dispose of a monstered battery? How do you dispose of them safely ?
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын
Lithium batteries are actually very inert when fully discharged. I recommend discharging them if possible before disposal.
@phillaboody
@phillaboody 8 жыл бұрын
is it possible that the auto and AC power packs (chargers) are not chargers and are used for direct plug in and use whilst plugged in?
@Firecul
@Firecul 8 жыл бұрын
Phillip Aboody I'd believe it for the AC pack but for the 12v the current going through that would be great enough to charge the cells even when the led is at full power.
@MrHarney
@MrHarney 8 жыл бұрын
Glad you put gloves on :)
@techy4198
@techy4198 8 жыл бұрын
What kind of logic were the manufacturers of that car charger following when they decided to use a single resistor!?
@mibars
@mibars 8 жыл бұрын
Cheap, charges battery, sometimes does not explode
@atbglenn
@atbglenn 8 жыл бұрын
and sometimes they do
@PWARHOLM
@PWARHOLM 8 жыл бұрын
'For use with devices that use 12V'
@techy4198
@techy4198 8 жыл бұрын
What purpose does the resistor serve though? Some super-crude attempt at a current-limited supply?
@dos541
@dos541 8 жыл бұрын
They want it to explode so they can sell more of them like how the big manufacturers design in something to break in their product like using all rubycon caps and putting in a single no name cap so it will die
@toysareforboys1
@toysareforboys1 8 жыл бұрын
3500mah for the new Sanyo NCR 18650GA 10amp ones, love love love them.
@JohnDoe-qx3zs
@JohnDoe-qx3zs 8 жыл бұрын
I wonder about two possible hidden safety features: 1. Maybe the circuit doesn't charge the batteries at all, only power the lamp from the input, in that case 3V is optimal battery substitute, 12V needs something limiting the LED current. 2. Maybe any attempt to overcharge would be stopped by the current eaten by the LED or some feature in the chip (or even a clever use of the second FET in that package).
@SarahC2
@SarahC2 7 жыл бұрын
So - is the 12v supply charging the batteries in series? 3 batteries x 4v (12v) ? I thought for a minute they'd done something so the 3v adaptor charges them in parallel... (but 3v is too low anyway....)
@travelbugse2829
@travelbugse2829 6 жыл бұрын
How about rigging up a Dremel + disc in a frame, with some kind of non-metallic hand cranked chuck? Whizz it round one end like a mini can opener, turn over and do the other; then a final cut by a second handheld Dremel + disc along the length, and you will have opened it up in 30 seconds. On the downside, there'll be less fear of sudden detonation!
@SlyPearTree
@SlyPearTree 8 жыл бұрын
Where can one get an explosion containment pie dish? CERN? NASA?
@maicod
@maicod 8 жыл бұрын
+slypeartree just use Grannies Pie dish like Clive does :) I use a stone soup cup
@carlyonbay45
@carlyonbay45 8 жыл бұрын
probably poundland
@ABaumstumpf
@ABaumstumpf 8 жыл бұрын
Aperture Science
@phils4634
@phils4634 8 жыл бұрын
Astute marketing opportunity there Clive - sell your "hand-signed" explosion containment pie dishes via your patreon site! You could start marketing your very own line of "dubious safety Chinese electronics - as dismantled by Big Clive" :-D
@maicod
@maicod 8 жыл бұрын
Phil S LOL
@andrewpike2924
@andrewpike2924 4 жыл бұрын
Would like to have seen inside the 3V supply. How safe is it.
@Gooberslot
@Gooberslot 8 жыл бұрын
Do you have any recommendations for decent 18650 batteries and chargers?
@gordonlawrence3537
@gordonlawrence3537 8 жыл бұрын
Personally I buy SAFT through a UK distributor. Expensive but they usually exceed spec by about 10% to 30%.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 8 жыл бұрын
As I understand it the right battery depends on the application. High storage capacity batteries have low current delivery capability, and high current batteries have low storage capacity. So which is decent depends on your use. Right now I think LG HG2 browns are some of the best batteries available. But there's loads of counterfeit knock offs of those too. So if a deal looks too good to be true it probably isn't.
@Zapp3012
@Zapp3012 8 жыл бұрын
Best bet is to visit a local vaping supplies shop. I got some Panasonic's there for £10. Avoid buying online, you don't know what you're getting. And avoid anything with 'fire' in the name. Trustfire, Ultrafire etc.
@Gooberslot
@Gooberslot 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah, avoiding fakes is a real problem. Are there any online shops that only sell legitimate batteries? Buying locally isn't a great option for me.
@gordonlawrence3537
@gordonlawrence3537 8 жыл бұрын
***** depending on how many you want to buy most mainstream distributors will deal with you but usually have a minimum order value. There is also the issue of some countries (like the UK) not allowing batteries to go through regular post. www.saftbatteries.com/sites/default/files/Distributors.pdf is a list of SAFT distributors who will not have fakes. Panasonic and others also have similar lists.
@DogsBAwesome
@DogsBAwesome 8 жыл бұрын
They are selling this on Ebay as a 30 watt light. 30W Rechargeable Convex Lens Lamp Focusing Unless they are going for an incandescent equivalent, it's a bit cheeky.
@medvidekkrupicka1404
@medvidekkrupicka1404 8 жыл бұрын
Chinese quite often use Li-Ion cells from recycled notebook accu-packs. You can usually find it out seeing spot-welding marks on the bottom of the cell.
@Brennonicolini
@Brennonicolini 8 жыл бұрын
is there a video explaining how to build a battery capacity tester? really wanna know if my expensive 3200mAh panasonic 18650 are really 3200mAh.. thanks
@SarahC2
@SarahC2 7 жыл бұрын
The "snake eye" wide dimples for unscrewing the LED cover, is there a proper adjustable tool instead of using needle nose pliers?
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 7 жыл бұрын
+Sarah Cartwright You can get tools designed for removing watch case backs that have adjustable prongs.
@JustSomeGuy1967
@JustSomeGuy1967 7 жыл бұрын
Hi BigClive !! Is there a way to get rid of the low power and crappy blink mode on most LED "work lights" ?? This drives me crazy and sometimes brings about a dead light because I didn't click enough times when done with the light.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 7 жыл бұрын
Alas no. Not without writing a new piece of control software and installing a new microcontroller.
@htomerif
@htomerif 8 жыл бұрын
I got 2 flashlights for my dad with the same on/chopped/SOS "driver". One of them lasted a few minutes before the solder melted and the LED's literally fell off. The second one I knew what I was getting so I added some heat-sinking, but their supply wires were 26 gauge, maybe worse. It took me a while to figure out that the cloudiness was smoke coming from inside the flashlight. Anyway, long story short, it works fine now as both a flashlight and hand-warmer. Sorry, I wrote this comment before watching the rest of the video. I was wondering if they'd skimped dangerously on the lamp wires, but it seems ok-ish. Probably not bad for the price with a few tweaks.
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