Inside Islam Session #5: Lahore Ahmadi Islam Movement

[@zulfiqarsiddique8598]

Why don’t you have a discussion with “The Dialogue with Imtiaz”?

[@auroryish9609]

What are your differences with the Qadiyani movement in Ahmadiyyath?

[@ਅਦੀਮਅਹਿਮਦ]

There is another big difference among Ahmadiyya and most sunni/shia and that there is no abrogation in Quran.

[@SalimKhan-ts5mu]

Assalam Alaikum. Thank you for your intellectual insight. I live in New York. It's very sad that we do not have any physical access to a Mosque based on the Lahore beliefs. I do have access to online documentation, which you clarify about how we do dawah. I do, however, wish we had Mosque so we can feel more comfortable. I believe you know what I'm trying to say. Thank you. Keep up the good work inshaAllah.

[@reggjackson3915]

@Salimkhan I agree with you wholeheartedly...As Salaam Alaikum

[@enayatkhan101]

The claim that the Lahori Ahmadi group is Muslim and they believe that Muhammad PBUH is the last prophet is NOT TRUE. First of all, one of the founders of the Lahori group, Maulvi Muhammad Ali (Whose English Translation of the Quran is shown in the video 24:44), was a close associate of Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qaqiyani. In Mirza Qadiyani's last years, he was a close supporter, Just second to Hakim Nuruddin. Now understand that Mirza Qadiyani has claimed different titles for himself in different times. he claimed that he was Mehdi, Messiah, and finally claimed to be a Prophet. (He even claimed to be Hindu Autaar or even Krishan!!) Interestingly Maulvi Muhammad Ali accompanied him and supported all his claims. Now after the death of Mirza Qadiayni, Hakim Nuruddin was selected as the First Caliph on 27th May 1908. Maulvi Muhammad Ali was with him in all his so-called khilafat. After Hakim's death, one of the sons of Mirza Qadiyani, Mirza Basheer-ud-Din Mahmood Ahmad was selected as the 2nd Caliph on 14 March 1914. At this point the disagreement started, Maulvi Muhammad Ali refused to accept him as Caliph, and he along with many other senior people separated from the Main Qadiyani leadership and formed the Lahori Group. I don't know why this speaker chose to hide all this from the viewers. Just to misguide people that they are Muslims just like other Sunni Muslims. Maulvi Muhammad Ali later stated that he doesn't accept Mirza Qadiyani as Prophet, but he was Mujaddad and Messiah and Mahdi. He believed that Hazrat Esa AS had died and Mirza Qadiyani was the rebirth of Esa AS. In a nutshell, all their beliefs are the same as the Major Qadiyaniah or Ahmadiyah Group, Lahori Group is a name change with small administrative changes. If the guest in this video still believes that the Qadiyani and Lahoris are different, then she has to show a proof that Maulvi Muhammad Ali has refuted Mirza Qadiyani's claim of prophethood during his [Qadiyani's] lifetime. In short, Lahori or Qadiyani do NOT BELIEVE Prophet Muhammad PBUH is the LAST PROPHET and that's why they are NOT MUSLIMS [in the opinion of most of the Muslim Scholars ]. Sorry for this long comment, but it was necessary to give basic historical details to clear this point.

[@akhtermakhdoom9246]

She trying to confuse the readers that Lahore Mirzais are Muslims Mirzais of both the other formed Lahori name and separated because of leadership of the mainstream Mirzais

[@reggjackson3915]

Agree