Inside Joby's eVTOL Air Taxi, Coming in 2025

[@CNET]

Read more on CNET.com: Inside Joby's Air Taxi Facility, I Saw the Future of Air Travel Take Flight cnet.us/l7j

[@HydroWorldOutlookPrimary5769]

Thanks for the update, @CNET! :)

[@ODog2323]

We've been seeing these videos promising "possibly starting next year!" since 2005 from many companies. I'll get impressed when it's real.

[@skatedurr]

problem with drones is no wings, one problem ur cooked

[@ODog2323]

@@skatedurr that's true of an airplane too. Sure there's redundancy just like there is here, but just the right tiny issue can bring it down. Gravity never takes a break!

[@jizzlecizzle1388]

​@@skatedurr, obviously, it's not true. There're redundancy, as it is a explained in the video. Most aircrafts do. Even a plane losing one engine out of two can safely land.

[@jizzlecizzle1388]

Obviously, it takes years to bring a new type of aircraft to the market. Joby, and others, are on the last leg to commercial operation.

[@mahbubhossainsamm]

Next year .. Awesome 🔥

[@Greguk444]

Very interesting, thank you. This looks like it could be a possible real transport option soon, but not as a taxi, more like a short hop plane alternative

[@cemdursun]

It is not a short hop plane alternative, its range is 100 miles.

[@haterhayder]

vapour ware you mean

[@Greguk444]

@@haterhayder well yes, you have a good point. I have been reading about air taxis for 20 years and they are still about to happen, as you say, vapour ware

[@haterhayder]

@@Greguk444 yep, regulations would do that. oh well

[@tyapka]

@@cemdursun they actually have already tested a fuel cell variant which flew for 500 miles.

[@philzail2532]

I chuckled when she called the autoclave a giant tunnel. 😅

[@JasonB808]

Not a taxi. These Giant Drones that can carry a few humans will not fix transportation for the masses. Its real goal is to be a cheaper alternative to helicopter. Still only rich people will be able to afford it. I think we will see Giant Drones ferry the rich over specific routes that avoid places with a lot of buildings or people on the ground.

[@jasourwnjl]

Definitely let them fly from one compound to another and not have to interact or even see the underclass on the street. A dream come true for the modern oligarch.

[@TheBagOfHolding]

@@JasonB808 they wish they could carry a few humans.

[@Mrwiseguy101690]

It's significantly cheaper and more accessible than helicopters

[@KhattaMeethaOficial]

It’s For Rich People….😂😂

[@galileo3431]

By that logic we should have also stopped building these expensive automotive vehicles a 100 years ago, because they were only for rich people anyways. It's actually rich people who pay for the necessary development cost to make high-tech scalable and therefore cheap.

[@mkotadia]

Love your work Lexy!

[@philipbassett5129]

Fantastic and I look forward to the day that I can ride in one, but the only issue I can see is it’s grounded footprint; you’ll need a large drive for you want to be dropped off at home and even businesses will need a large area of parking lot

[@bikebudha01]

If this makes it into production... WE ALL LIVE NEXT DOOR TO THE AIRPORT...

[@suniselin]

As it is vertical landing and takeoff capacity one can set up an airport anywhere

[@tyapka]

Amazing. Technology. It's a difficult and a long road to get this certified and being used in production, but any endeavour of such significance is not easy. Joby is doing all the right things to make air taxis a normal thing - production, training, contracts with other players. Go go Joby.

[@TheTanman412]

Most people are unaware of the massive advancements in battery density, chemistry, price, fast charging ability, & longevity in the last 6 years. Unlike EVs, flying electric craft have just been waiting for lighter batteries.

[@danielwhyatt3278]

HECK YEAH. Their time is fiiiinally upon us.

[@TheBagOfHolding]

@TheTanman412 when magic batteries are invented then it will be easy for anyone to make them. Like kids make little ones now.

[@TheCiardellas]

I really love this company

[@tylerhill9483]

I own 13k shares of this. Going to try to get to minimum of 20k. I hope the price doesn't skyrocket too soon before I can get some more. I think this will be a 10 bagger within the next decade.

[@flinx]

Do you own Archer shares too? If not but you compared the stocks, why do you favor Joby?

[@tylerhill9483]

@@flinx I don't own Archer. I don't know what you mean, I didn't compare the stocks? I think Joby is better, and my bet is Joby will dominate the eVOTL space. Stanley Drukenmiller owns Joby too, but he doesn't own Archer, albeit his position in Joby is small. Stanley is a very smart Billionaire investor and I respect him a lot.

[@flinx]

@@tylerhill9483 I see. I asked because Joby and Archer will be competitors after eVTOL deliveries commence. So anytime someone thinks only one of the companies is the better bet, I'm interested in understanding why.

[@star00-x]

How can i invest.what app or website please

[@farzana6676]

​@@tylerhill9483 This is a glorified helicopter. Nothing special.

[@actlove7]

lets go joby

[@thisisreallife9026]

So it is a complicated helicpoter, got it!

[@FriedaFuzzypaws-f3h]

Canny believe they named it "Joby"

[@thedoublep434]

Screw air taxis, I want one to fly myself!

[@Holyorderofkeith_053]

FOR REALS

[@swim_xoc]

"Easy to fly" is a double edged sword - too many autopilot systems stop working and suddenly the pilot doesn't know how to safely descend in an emergency.

[@garyvermaak9470]

Airtaxis (private air charter) dates back to 1919, while the flight hailing app was in 2008 (Evolux) before Uber's ridesharing app.

[@undeze]

I would like to have heard more about the FAA aircraft certification progress. What are the contingency procedures in the Joby for critical systems failures? What happens if a motor fails? What happens if a propeller gets stuck in a horizontal or non-vertical position? Does the aircraft then have to land like a conventional airplane? If so, where? How much battery reserves (time) does it require at its planned landing time? Lots of questions. Hopefully the answers are coming…?

[@HydroWorldOutlookPrimary5769]

All good questions that need answers before I pay them a dime to fly me anywhere.

[@dsp4392]

There's no way this thing will ever be faster than a car if its max range is only 160km. Better pivot to aerial sightseeing/tourism _quick_ .

[@maximiliandegarnerinvonmon6457]

Why does he sound like he's asking a question every time he speaks 🤣🤣🤣

[@donovyegg1]

That’s cool!

[@bernob9770]

WOW!!

[@eemil333.]

So they basically call a drone an air taxi and compare it to a car. Looks more like a helicopter but with a few more rotors to me..

[@user-ed7dy1mq9u]

Carbon fiber manufacturing is cool, but it’s been around for 50 years and not exactly new tech or this aircraft. Same with flight simulators. I was hoping they spend more time on the stuff I was really curious about, but they rushed through it. How exactly is it quieter, is it spinning slower? Is it the blade tips? How quiet is it? Like what are the decibels? How many engines can it loose and still fly? How about when it’s hovering? I have lots of doubts because on my small drone, any engine failure causes it to flip and fall out of the sky. I would love to have seen test video to prove it can still fly with those failures.

[@charliedoyle7824]

It sounds like a big leaf blower or giant electric weed trimmer, like a big air whoosh with an electric whine. There is no big helicopter thumping or airplane engine noise that travel so far. When it flies overhead at 1000 feet it's pretty quiet; probably barely audible when it's windy. When it's taking off and you're nearby it's not so quiet, but much better than normal aircraft. They manage it with redesigned wingtips of the props and spinning them slower. They can do that because they have lots of propellers providing lift. Electric propulsion systems are also inherently quieter than reciprocating engines. Joby has fewer propellers than other EVTOLs, so they may have less redundancy. Most have eight props, some even more. Joby can lose all engines and glide in if it's within glide-reach of a runway or field. It can lose one engine for sure and still land vertically. I have to think it could lose two and land vertically, but I'm not sure if it can lose two front engines on the same side. It can probably lose over 50% of its engines and land horizontally like an airplane. Having six tilt propellers plus wings with three-axis stability and sophisticated control systems and software make it nothing like hobby drones. These electric motors also are double motors, with two separate windings in one unit. If one unit fails, it powers it's other unit, and doesn't miss a beat. Other EVTOLs have double props hooked to one unit, one on top and the other below it. They all also have three or more battery arrays with three or more different controllers that should fail for different reasons. These things are far more redundant than any other aircraft. And electric propulsion is far more reliable and needs less maintenance than conventional propulsion systems.

[@Hanguorenshishabi]

Don't be curious, you have to act, don't be smart, you can think of problems, Chinese engineers can also think of, you think you are smarter than the Chinese?

[@HydroWorldOutlookPrimary5769]

Surely we will see these "air taxis" take flight only in the bigger, busier cities first as airport transfer vehicles before they trickle down to those smaller cities and rural areas that have fewer established transit services and really need them (like Las Vegas, NV and Emporia, VA). Los Angeles and New York City will, inevitably, be first in line. But I will keep following updates on the service, and we will see how well it performs in the transit/travel market.

[@JB-gr6om]

Wow it looks like the Osprey… which has crashed many times. 😂

[@robertonavarro8701]

How much luggage would you be allowed to bring? If you search it, it says 1000lb load. With an avg weight of Americans at 185lbs (multiplied by 5), it doesnt leave much at all.

[@AdHernandez]

I wonder where are they going to park while waiting for the passenger? The area it occupies is bigger than a truck, so waiting for passenger in Manhattan would be difficult. Aside from that, pretty cool industry, which I hope will work.

[@bryangopan]

Dubai baby

[@urbanstrencan]

Can't wait to be able to actually use it in the public ❤❤❤

[@TheBagOfHolding]

It will always be next year. Show it carrying the weight necessary the distance necessary one year and then i might believe people will ride them next year.

[@TheBagOfHolding]

That sound test was a different model with different motors that had gears and it crashed. The new craft is different and doesn't have gears. The sound will be different and louder if its carrying a load. Empty would be quieter but that shouldn't be the test.

[@TheBagOfHolding]

@David0gden how much weight is it carrying and how long does it stay in the air? Take a video of it if it's longer than 2 minutes because that's longer than joby ever shows. The sound doesn't matter if it can't lift the necessary load and move it somewhere. The more it lifts the louder it would be. I think joby is going to go down like a lilium if they don't prove they can move something somewhere soon. I know they can lift 1 man for at least a minute but is that it? Please take an unedited video of the entire time its airborne of it happens frequently and you are telling the truth.

[@TheBagOfHolding]

@David0gden question: what is the difference between joby and lilium? Answer: a year. Being honest is cool, dude.

[@TheBagOfHolding]

@David0gden umm no they were actually a hoax.

[@TheBagOfHolding]

@@David0gden not jets, ducted fans and it ended up being all lies. Marketing and lies. Like this.

[@TheBagOfHolding]

@@David0gden lilium is out of buisness, they are bankrupt. This one will be after archer goes. They aren't competing they depend on eachother to keep up the charade that it's possible.

[@summerchina6568]

Key question is how much are they gonna charge for a ride. And where are they gonna land?

[@hunterhart1]

I’ll hop in for test trials

[@dans.8198]

@4:24 How is it possible that using “a third less energy” (-33%) lets you go “three times as far” (+200%).

[@BF_Yuna]

To the moon ~

[@glennalexon1530]

I feel that if level flight uses “a third less energy”, they could travel 1/3 again farther, not “three times as far”. Somebody check my math before we crash.

[@dandevos3816]

I cought that as well. I think perhapd he ment to say level flight uses 1/3 the energy of vertical flight.... ?

[@ReallyFarFarAway]

⚡⚡ Electricity power ⚡⚡ through battery storage is just one out of many features of this vehicle .. !!! ... wich ... actually very likely will disappear in the not so distant future due to technical developments .. !!! ((( - Yes indeed !!! )))

[@technojunkie213]

what are the use cases in usa? i have heard some NYC use cases like airport to manhattan or similiar.

[@tallertwink]

Thought we were going to see an actual flight with CNET inside. Color me disappointed the climax was just a simulation.

[@SuperChicken666]

My question is, if I'm fabulously wealthy, can I buy one?🚁

[@mofosoto]

Brought to you by the people that have never heard of the invention called the helicopter

[@zachb1706]

Easier to build and control a quadcopter

[@Groegselmaschupp]

Airtaxis exist! They are called Helicopters…..

[@micham8278]

As a plane and helicopter pilot that spent years learning and mastering flight, this is quite insulting to watch.

[@livingroomguitarist7]

That’s what technology does. Makes what was once difficult now easy to do.

[@micham8278]

@@livingroomguitarist7 It'll replace all of our jobs in the near future.

[@TheBagOfHolding]

​@@micham8278don't worry. Its vaporware.

[@livingroomguitarist7]

@micham8278 No it won't. It will add jobs.

[@TheBagOfHolding]

@micham8278 real helicopters can be made autonomous already and made to fly by wire. I have a toy one where you can make it hard to fly and it can do flips or make it easy to fly so its like one of those skill crane games in the air and it can even fly and land itself.

[@maximiliandegarnerinvonmon6457]

It's starting in bangalore 😊

[@haterhayder]

The CEO hasnt answered a single question as it was asked lol

[@David0gden]

He's not the CEO

[@damienspectre4231]

been hearing about "air taxis taking off" since biblical times

[@rocsocom3166]

Who will be the first guinea pig to ride that at least a helicopter can auto rotate if lose power that drop like a rock.

[@Евгений_Грабинский]

It must be full autopilot

[@samtownshend]

It's very misleading to ignore the addition of their composite epoxy, making all the parts terrible for the environment. You'll be making videos about how we scrap all the carbon composite parts in a few years...

[@manfyegoh]

got air con inside?

[@cesarbrown2074]

These will be great for states like Texas with multiple big cities.

[@TheBagOfHolding]

They need an airconditioner if they want to fly them here. That flying greenhouse is going to get hot if it can even fly with weight. They still haven't proven it can for more than a few seconds. They haven't even shown a 5 minute empty flight without edits.

[@cesarbrown2074]

@@TheBagOfHolding lmfao.

[@amirahmari]

oooo, u've explained everything except that most important thing and thats related about elecric motors, they have how much power and works for how far that go? after how long does it need be recharge and what is capacity of the battery? that has how many km/hr speed?

[@livingroomguitarist7]

Top speed 200 mph, range of 100 miles not including reserve. I believe the S4 has a service ceiling of 18k feet.

[@TheBagOfHolding]

@livingroomguitarist7 I think they would say its designed to do that not that it can do that.

[@davidcoxon4710]

Yesterday in London, I sat in my room looking at the sky, with a huge beautiful post full moon. There were two or three helicopters ruining the sky. I sat there and watched the perfect Oct night looking at the sky, empty blue, memorising with it's space that is free for everyone. Then I thought we are approaching the era when it is about to end. The human race must and will progress. But in that progression we also lose much. And the days that the night skies are filled with these things are something I look forward to with utter dread.

[@sebastianzukowski7985]

Wasn't similar with cars? E.g. you had a house, a cottage and an open field with wilderness. Now in many places there are motorways and other roads

[@davidcoxon4710]

@@sebastianzukowski7985 most human beings don't want to live next to a motorway or major road😂

[@sebastianzukowski7985]

Of course they don't, but sometimes it's unavoidable. These also appeared over time, same as flying vehicles will.

[@davidcoxon4710]

@@sebastianzukowski7985 I'm in stoke Newington looking at the moon and a clear sky. It gives me peace and freedom of spirit to see that space. In 10-20 years that will be gone. I've dreaded it for a long time to be honest as it's that close. We need some escape from a city and the sky is the best we have

[@yeaye-h6y]

I think this is a bad idea....what if it malfunctions while your flying somewhere 🤔

[@David0gden]

Redundancy and breathe easy.

[@silverwolf2643]

Same can be said about airplanes and helicopters

[@pauloyoshizaki2103]

Joby - Aviation = Toyota ~ Aviation = Japan : Taxi - Aéreo : 2025 - Iniciar -2025 ~ 2026 !😍✈️✈️✈️✈️🛫🛫🛫🛫🛫= Toyota ~ Joby ~ Aviation - Company - 2025 🛫🛫🛫🛫🛫🛫.

[@Somehow_Logical]

Helicopter?

[@charaznable1131]

Finally!!! Its just an electric helicopter and considering how bad climate change is gonna get, the crosswinds will make this thing fall from the sky like a fly

[@jizzlecizzle1388]

Of course it isn't. As it is explained in the video.

[@hunterhart1]

Helicopters have 1 main rotor and 1 tail tail rotor which means no failsafe. In this case there are multiple props which allows for multiple failsafe options. Way safer + autonomy helps navigate better than humans although people will be navigating and overseeing the systems.

[@chethiyaprasanga]

When tesla comes this business.. near days.. another fear to this company 😢

[@JB-gr6om]

So when it crashes the carbon fibers will protect me? 😂

[@JJs_playground]

The amount of technical skill and machinery this company has is very impressive. I think for air flight (these drones, airplanes) should use hydrogen instead of batteries.

[@David0gden]

Joby's Hydrogen EVTOL is blue 🤓

[@pleka]

1/3 less energy or 1/3 of the energy?

[@creator_way999]

Бесплатно добро раздают? А как же баланс во Вселенной! Сколько добра столько и зла!

[@WilliamEnwerem-p5l]

Imagine getting in a flying car in West Virginia and Kentucky and Ohio and they sell them at all the car dealerships in West Virginia and Kentucky and Ohio

[@DigitalRosePodcast]

Until a flock of birds come out of no where

[@theaouch4749]

For rich people.

[@iblackfeathers]

joby makes mini tripods. that's a big jump in their product line to flying taxis. 😅

[@David0gden]

The Joby tripods were invented by Mr. JoeBen, they were Joby Aviations founder's first project from college. That's how he got his startup capital in 2009 along with a couple other investments I believe. In fact he's been developing this EVTOL taxi ever since 2009. Today the furthest along and leading the industry safely into the future.

[@P455x3]

Amazon air

[@symply_ajay]

Can it autorotate like a helicopter?

[@Bodan_Takanuva]

It has wings for gliding but it can't autorotate.

[@symply_ajay]

@@Bodan_Takanuva well, that sucks.

[@JB-gr6om]

Not me.

[@metamorphic75]

These are just slightly smaller helicopters, with additional propellers. This is not the "flying" car I imagined

[@Aragorn7884]

This product is a solution to a non-existent problem 🤑

[@capsulecorp2309]

I think if this became affordable or even a taxi service. I would alleviate ground traffic for lots of others. So not entirely a waste of time

[@jizzlecizzle1388]

​@@capsulecorp2309, it won't alleviate road traffic outside of very specific areas. There's virtually no chance it will become a solution for mass transit.

[@jizzlecizzle1388]

There're already people paying for heli taxi. Other riche people would select this solution to avoid traffic, instead of, currently, ordering a chauffeur.

[@Bodan_Takanuva]

Traffic is a present problem, but some places reached the limit on lane expansions.

[@Aragorn7884]

@@Bodan_Takanuva 😒

[@SocialistSociopathPK442]

When will india become like this

[@allaboutdrones8070]

I think the FAA may have a slight issue with several parts - 1. Pilot certification 2. Aircraft certification 3. landing zones etc (so called vertical ports) just use helicopter pads lol - charging stations for these and the infrastructure all yet to be built... now goto a Tesla car charge area and watch how many cars need to be there for 40 mins to charge the car. Now think if you have so called air taxis - How many will be able to charge and turn around these so called air taxis in reasonable time etc All possible to overcome but it needs time and 2025 is probably not enough time...

[@David0gden]

Joby has a great relationship with the FAA. 2025 baby

[@jpcarsmedia]

Gunship version and watch the stock soar!

[@TeslaSJC]

This is way too heavy complex and expensive they need to do better

[@jimmyryan5880]

Helicoper

[@seanhardman1964]

Thats a helicopter plane

[@lotusflowerrr]

So a helicopter but quieter

[@nolaguy71]

So…a helicopter?

[@David0gden]

Helicopters have hundreds of single points of failure. This has no single point of failure. Joby is going to devour the 68 billion dollar helicopter industry.

[@marlo-ji]

That's a helicopter

[@Native722]

I wonder if Elon will get into this space as well.

[@justinlange3214]

I think Elon was worried about thousands of these creating noise pollution over cities, so he started the boring company instead.

[@David0gden]

You have to see and hear this EVTOL fly in real life to believe what I'm telling you right now, however it sounds about as loud as an air conditioner or 45dB. Noise pollution won't be an issue.

[@biggeststeppa1]

Add 3 rows of seating and you've solved transportation and logistics in the developing world

[@davidf2281]

How does putting nine people at a time in an expensive electric aircraft solve any problem in a developing world of hundreds of millions of people?

[@biggeststeppa1]

@@davidf2281 you bypass having to build road infrastructure, which is notoriously expensive. far more expensive than a network of these things will ever be

[@dsp4392]

Also, get rid of the propellers and wings, add even more rows, stick these on rails that connect major cities and attach these futuristic vehicles to each other, with a single, super efficient motor at the front.

[@biggeststeppa1]

@@dsp4392 and who's paying for the rail infrastructure? Your mom?

[@BusterDarcy]

How it’s made is irrelevant compared to how it will actually work in the real world. This report leaping from “maybe there will be custom landing pads” to “this could be available next year” was just wild. Please tell me they at least paid you for this ad.

[@jizzlecizzle1388]

No, it's not. Joby is working on the vehicle. Others on the vertiports. The same way companies working on cell phone are, most of the time, separate from those providing the service, the network.

[@BusterDarcy]

@@jizzlecizzle1388 and what a fascinating piece this would have been had they delved into that and the many other aspects of actually making this fantasy a reality

[@TheBagOfHolding]

​@@BusterDarcyit would be fascinating if they lifted some weight and moved it somewhere one of these years.

[@khanisbrown6424]

Thats a helicopter

[@dimitrylanez]

I see 🤔 So u want investors

[@matheus8530]

Can we stop? It is time to stop fooling around and do something serious

[@robotfromsirius]

Another drone.

[@gringofr06]

Ehang much better, invest before it's too late

[@dsp4392]

By "invest" you mean "short", right?

[@David0gden]

Loooool

[@therock1232100]

No thanks

[@abinodattil6422]

Would quite possibly be cheaper than a car

[@dsp4392]

Lol. How?

[@David0gden]

$3 a mile starting out...

[@abinodattil6422]

@@dsp4392 remember Star Wars when there are air high ways? The whole thing would be automated, pick a destination and then go , absolutely cheaper than a gas car, even now. parts will be super cheap, cause it’s just 4 to 6 motors a body and a good pc, plus battery

[@imatimetraveler5760]

Is this a good investment to invest in?...🤔📈

[@dsp4392]

Not unless they pivot to a more realistic business model. Short hop air taxi is completely nonsensical. The market for this is minuscule. These could be used for very specialized scenario like delivery to difficult areas, medical evacuation, tourism and surveying, but commuting is absolutely ridiculous.

[@yottabytego]

Oh great, the future of transportation-brought to a screeching halt by a pigeon. Glad to know my flying Uber can be taken out by a feathered missile.

[@David0gden]

It has safety redundancy for all the pigeons.

[@grasuh]

Coming in 2025... 🤣🤣🤣

[@David0gden]

You're laughing. It's coming in 2025. Come on over to Santa Cruz.

[@grasuh]

@ do u work for Joby? What kind of emergency tests been done?

[@David0gden]

@@grasuh All that information is available to the public through the FAA. I'm just an autoclave operator.

[@grasuh]

@ understood. We can do it doesn’t mean we should do it. Rushing it out the door could have severe liability consequences. There is no doubt a long list of failure cases and emergency procedures skipped if we are about to see this contraption go airborne next year with ordinary folks on board.

[@David0gden]

@@grasuh nobody's skipping anything. Joby has been doing this longer than anybody else. Do the research, it's all there. The future is very soon.

[@frankmaclow2709]

No thank you

[@turnermitchellgroupllc7839]

The skies are too quite busy already It was yesterday when American airline almost hit two private little airlines planes that were in the sky on yesterday now you talking about putting these things in the air too It's too much I know we watch cartoons we was growing up saw the Jetsons and all that This world is not ready for that is too crowded already on the streets it's going to be too crowded in the sky stop it

[@jpquebec123]

Too busy for human pilot maybe, but with anti collision systems it's not a problem, have you seen the drones shows where hundreds of drones are making light show 2 feets apparts while moving in all directions? Airspace is 3D and open while roads are only 2D and linear, there's infinite more space in the air.

[@stephenlevy1011]

Helicopters already exist, these are just safer quieter helicopters.

[@hunterhart1]

Different airspace

[@gusvazquez8931]

He said “that’s how easy it is to fly a helicopter”. NOT! All the variables: collective, throttle control, anti torque, cyclic pitch control, etc. coordination is paramount and very difficult or everyone would be doing it 🫤

[@David0gden]

One of the many reasons that it's not a helicopter.

[@simonekakabor9020]

2nd

[@김모치-z1h]

insanely boring vid. no ride? what is the purpose of this vid? and air taxi will be not autonomous?

[@김모치-z1h]

1st