Inside South Korea’s 6-Hour Martial Law Chaos & President Yoon's "Political Suicide" | Insight

[@daisukesenpai8821]

Even Kim Jong Un is confused.

[@sharpasacueball]

North Korea had an emergency meeting because they thought one of their divisions accidentally invaded the south lol

[@경아김-t1v]

As a Korean at the age of 53, I had never ever imagined I would experience martial law in my life before the night December third. Of course I knew there was martial law in 1980, but I was just 8 years old at that time. I just saw some pictures and a few tv dramas of the time. So I actually didn't know what martial law is and what would happen if controlled by martial law. I can't explain how furious and nervous I feel now. I am willing to do everything I can to protect the democracy of my country. That's why I was one of the huge crowds in the rallies held in Seoul. It takes me almost 10 hours to get back and forth for the rallies. It doesn't matter because I LOVE my country, South Korea.

[@chrisp1961]

@@경아김-t1v 멀리 해외에서 감사를 드리고 또 응원합니다. 몸은 멀리 있지만 마음은 항상 조국과 그리고 나라를 사랑하는 분들과 함께합니다.

[@backto-il9ne]

Was wating for this. CNA Insider never fails to deliver incisive thorough and thought-provoking reporting. LET'S GO !!!!

[@xxoo-lp6vc]

his master still want to keep this "American Pie " . 😨 they just need to get 1 judge to have "Accident"

[@satriaamiluhur622]

The whole thing looks like something out of south park episode

[@DavidTizzard]

Thank you for the opportunity to contribute to the discussion and this wonderful documentary. It's been a crazy couple of weeks here in South Korea. And while the politics may be a mess, there is still much hope to be had in the people of the country.

[@Garnishes]

fantastic in-depth report on this. kudos for interviewing current politicians from BOTH sides to give their real, first-hand account and thoughts on what only happened just 2-3 weeks ago.

[@RETHIKASREE-rsp]

I was waiting for this

[@히어넨]

40:23 누구맘대로 일본에 대해 태도가 개선되고 우호적이라함? ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 윗선에서 미디어에 일본 다 떼려넣어서 노출시켜놓고 무슨 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

[@dorei9518]

통계상으론 일본에 훨씬 우호적으로 변했어요. 본인이 편향돼 있다고 그걸 전체 국민에게 일반화하지 맙시다.

[@fromragstoriches4172]

맞는데 나도 일본 좋아함

[@user-rjwag]

@@fromragstoriches4172 역사 공부 안한 빈수레 텅텅소리 안나게 좀 해라

[@가가밍밍]

통계를 부정 할 순 없지

[@sigorgang]

CNA Insider was probably unable to update w/ recent news but this was not a sudden declaration of martial law. It was carefully planned in advance but failed spectacularly due to a number of factors (irrational motive which nobody including the military could get behind, weather, swift response by lawmakers and the public, etc.). The military (particularly the Korea Defense Intelligence Command) received detailed orders by Yoon on who to detain/execute and had set up interrogation and detention centers months in advance. Yoon is well known to be a serious alcoholic who has set himself up in an echo chamber with a wife who believes in shamanism. You've got to be quite something if you can get 90% of the country to turn on you before you finished half your term. How did Korea end up here? (Probably applicable to a lot of Asian countries) Vet your politicians properly and don't vote for party - vote your conscience. Just because a person had a certain position or credential does not mean that person should be a politician or cares for the country. A single person can ruin a nation in less than three years. A single proper vote can stop that.

[@Inktomei]

This could easily happen in the United States with the incoming Trump administration. We Americans have a lesson to learn here from the South Korean people who protected democracy.

[@Flash-lf3sk]

Due to a serious lack of knowledge and updated information about what has been going on before and after insurrection, this report can give a wrong ideas to people living outside Korea. The above reply has pointed out several significant errors in the report.

[@drewsarmiento]

CNA really is the BEST Documentary production network. You guys are soooo good at what you do.

[@anobayantv]

This is a great in-depth analysis and explanation of what and why he declared martial law. Weak leadership leads to destruction of his life and shame to the world. May this be a warning to others, vote Wisely and elect responsible leaders who has guts and respect to you.

[@GnowkEannot]

@32:21 there's a "g" pop up on the right side of the display by editing mistake.

[@KM-z3f]

I think it's important to make a distinction between the government vs. Korean people's attitude towards Japan. I disagree with the notion that the attitude towards Japan has been "improving" among young Koreans. It is rather the current government and its pro-Japan stance, along with its media sponsoring pro-Japanese sentiments and contents to sway their opinions. Any political belief that is counter to Japan is slowly becoming a taboo for this precise reason.

[@MadeleineMedia16]

Maybe so. But when I recently visited Osaka I heard So many Koreans everywhere, so cant be horribly bad or?

[@johnpark4650]

​@@MadeleineMedia16The presence of Koreans in Japan have little to do with the political tensions between the two countries. You can hate the Japanese for denying some WW2 crimes but that won't stop you from enjoying anime and visiting Kyoto.

[@user-jr6ev8vz8c]

40:35 뭔 소리야? 일본 싫어요 일본싫어일본싫어일본싫어일본싫어

[@남자-abc]

싫으면 고립되던가

[@wrldtrvlr4vr]

Thank you for such in depth reporting

[@danicoleb5394]

I'm very confused about the doctor strike. I replayed it twice. They said they make $220k USD annually, the highest in OECD countries. Yet they're protesting that they get paid low wages and work long hours, so much so that the Medical Union guy claims their initial wages (without stating if the initial wages are the $220k the narrator mentioned) are on par or lower than convenience store clerks and part-timers. But since the only number stated was the average salary of $220k, let's do the math: 80 hours a week for 52 weeks with a salary of $220k, in U-S-D mind you, works out to $52.88/hour. Either this was poorly edited, they're wildly ridiculous in their claims, or I need to move to South Korea and live like a queen with a mere part-time job that'll put me in the top 10% in the States alone. Someone please clarify that bit.

[@StinkySundae]

With 220K, doctors would go outrage in America

[@myungkim7241]

The interviewed guy is a resident that usually is paid low. Those ones paid $220k are doctors who completed the residency.

[@EastPlays]

220K are attendings/consultants. The main bulk of any hospital is made up of the resident/'junior' doctors. Quite literally in 2020 the average fresh grad from med school in the UK would be making less than a barista per hour with longer hours and more responsibility. The 80h per week is never inclusive of on-calls. Also 12h shifts per day is what may written into the contract, but usually you'll find on-calls and the day team working shoulder to shoulder with the next shift because of sheer caseload. For reference? Monthly basic pay was ~£1800 per month for doctors out of Med school (with an ongoing and building student loan).

[@qq101359]

They are just wildly ridiculous in their claims. So no one is supporting their cause except the doctors themselves. This isn't the first time they've gone on strike, and they've been extremely hostile to any policy that tries to touch their wallets (division of medicine, increasing the number of doctors, etc.) and have done everything they can to frustrate every reform. The medical reform is probably one of the few good things Yun has done that has gotten public support, although his other mistake was not suppressing it earlier and letting them strike like this.

[@catsNcode]

There's two opposing complaint parties: Jr Doctors and Established Doctors Jr Doctors feel overworked for what they make Established Doctors have seen their salaries grow like 40% over 6-7 years due to increased demand for healthcare but shortage of established doctors. Pure greed. Their actions are selfish in that.. walking out means many patients couldn't be served.. and their resistance against increasing the Jr Doctor quotas means they also prevent/bottleneck any possibility of having more jr doctors to spread their workload across.

[@charliepark1971]

Yoon was a presecutor for ~30 yrs. His political arch-enemy, JM Lee is claimed to be the victom of Prosecutor Office’s power abuse. JM Lee has 4 confirmed criminal records and is currently in many different trials including corruption cases. JM Lee is also a strong leader of the Democratic party which is the majority party among the South Korean national law-makers. Despite being the president for 2.5 yrs, Yoon has been emasculted by JM Lee. Lee has passed numerous bills to impeach 22 of the government officials Yoon appointed. Lee has also passed bills in the Congress to start special prosecution investigation on Yoon’s wife, Gun-hee Kim. Yoon has been using his presidential previlege, a veto, to stop this from happening. Why is Lee so desparate to target Yoon’s wife? And if so innocent, why doesn’t Yoon just cooperate to investigation? It’s because there is a long history of the Democratic party trying to bully and demonize the First Lady Kim. Circa 2022, the First Lady was approached by a Korean man named Jae Young Choi. He approached her by saying he is her late father’s good friend. And then he gave her a $2,200 Dior bag. Despite her strong refusal, Choi forces and manages to leave a shiny Dior pouch in her office. Choi recorded all of this with a spycam on his watch. He even recorded a footage of himself buying this Dior pouch at a store. And one day released to media. South Korean people got enraged. They began to deem Kim as a bribe-taker, a corrupt, crooked person. Combined with this incident and many other attempts by the left-wingers to demonize Kim, for example refering her as “Julie”, an alias she used when she allegedly did prostitution. Obviously this is totally ungrounded fake news. She actually comes from a wealthy family. But these scandals were enough to make her the 2024 Korean Marie Antoinette. Yoon’s approval rate kept dropping as these fake news altogether successfully demonized Yoon and Kim. Yoon’s arch-enemy JM Lee has been using this as the justification of the 4 special prosectuion investigation bills on the First Lady. The interesting part here is that Jae Young Choi, the guy who planted and recorded the Dior bag to the First Lady, is suspected to be a North Korean spy. He’s been a semi public figure in Korean media and best known for his glamorizing of the North Korean dictators the Kim’s. He claims himself to be a pastor that frequently visits Pyeongyang. So long story short, although Yoon threw the biggest curveball to the world, it is also true that South Korea is being screwed over by a North Korean spy. This is why in his recent speech, Yoon used the word “anti-state” forces. Although usually a taget of mockery for being ungrounded conspiracy theory, Yoon has suspicions and animosity towards the General Election office too. On the other hand, JM Lee has strong fandom and he is the biggest prosepct for the next South Korean president if Yoon gets impeached in Q2 2025. Lee, with his stronger than-ever-before Congressional power (his party currently holds 190 out of 300 seats in the Parliament) has completely cut down the 2025 budget for Yoon’s presidential office and the Prosectuion Office a few weeks ago. This is all because the South Korean democracy is still growing and changing. Our constituion was last revised in the late 1980s. In the 60s-80s, the political power was on the executive branch, and we had two dictators. So when the constituion was written in the late 80s, they took away a lot of the power from the president and gave it to the lawmakers. Now Lee is fully exercising that right. Yoon said enough with the bullying from a criminal and declared martial law.

[@chrisp1961]

This view does not portrait the truth behind the Korean politics and the reason behind the Marshall law accurately. Yoon, as the commenter noted, had been a prosecutor for over 30 years and was the chief prosecutor, who President Moon appointed to prosecute then impeached Ex-President Park Geun Hye. The problem with the Korean prosecution service is that it has sole unchecked power to investigate, indict and not to indict any crime, real or fabricated. Too often the prosecutors used this unchecked power to fabricate crimes to extort from businessmen or eliminate political adversaries. It is well known that any recent retiree from high office can amass millions within a year of the retirement simply by making phone calls to his former subordinates on behalf of a criminal. Korea stock index is deeply discounted not because of the Cold War instability but the stock manipulation is rampant for the perpetrators can pocket so much more than they need to pay for these phone calls. During military dictatorship prosecutors collaborated with the military strongmen to crush opposition and protestors. As the nation became more democratic, there remained no system to check the enormous power of the prosecutors, who acted as a single entity and became ultimately corrupt. As Park Geun Hye was disposed of, President Moon, who rose to power inadvertently, appointed Cho Kuk as the Minister of Justice in an effort to curtail the powers given to prosecutors as all presidents before him wished to but failed. Alarmed by this prosecutors targeted Cho Kuk as their uptime enemy, and eventually jailed his wife with allegations of forging volunteer certificate to be used for a college application and him alleging his daughter’s scholarship award as a bribe. Evidences were fabricated, and not even judges could raise a flag afraid of becoming targets themselves. Meanwhile police investigation found Yoon’s wife, Kim Gun Hee, was involved in stock Price manipulations and profited from the proceedings, but the prosecutors drooped all her charges for only prosecutors can initiate indictments. Against all odds Democratic party and it’s leader Lee passed a law for a special prosecutor, but Yoon vetoed the bill; Korean presidents often faced similar prosecution, but no one ever vetoed a bill directly involving investigations on corruptions of immediate family members. Accusations on Yoon and his wife are abound including the latest of which his election as the president was also a result of meddling on public polls. The person who was responsible was recently arrested , surfaced were and among many evidences recordings of Yoon’s own voice directly linking him in election meddling. This fiasco drove Yoon not only in a very low public opinion but also under imminent criminal charges. The declaration of martial law was the last straw he needed to hang on.

[@charliepark1971]

@ While it’s true that historically the prosecutors have abused their unchecked power, a lot has systematically changed since the military dictatorship and such things rarely happen now. Cho Kuk was indeed a target by the prosecutors but I must clarify that the evidence against Cho Kuk and his wife were NOT fabricated. All of their charges were reviewed by different judges of the Court of Appeals and the Supreme Court. Some of the charges ended up getting cleared but a big majority had irrefutable evidences. To say all of these judges knowingly accepted the fabricated evidence in the fear of themselves being targeted by the prosecutors is an insult to them and the Korean judiciary system.

[@thefnsk]

Shi-bal-sae- kki

[@rajfc]

Democracy is extremely fragile and shld never be taken for granted

[@ArtThouNotEntertained]

To ensure police do not enter South Korea’s National Assembly in the future or interfere in legislative matters, there are several mechanisms and practices that can be implemented or reinforced, rooted in constitutional law, institutional norms, and public oversight. Here’s how this can be achieved: 1. Strengthen Constitutional Protections for Legislative Independence - The South Korean Constitution already guarantees the independence of the National Assembly. These protections could be reinforced through: - Explicit Prohibitions: Clear laws preventing police or other state forces from entering the National Assembly except in extraordinary, well-defined emergencies. - Judicial Oversight: Require any decision involving police entry to be reviewed and authorized by a court to ensure compliance with democratic principles. 2. Legislative Rules and Protocols - The National Assembly can adopt or strengthen internal rules to explicitly prohibit unauthorized entry by police or external forces. - Protocols should outline: - Conditions under which police may request access (e.g., imminent threat to public safety). - Procedures for approving such access, involving high-level officials or independent oversight committees. 3. Independent Security Force - The National Assembly could maintain its own independent security force to manage internal matters and handle potential threats without relying on the national police force. - This force would be accountable solely to the Speaker of the National Assembly or a bipartisan oversight body. 4. Civic Oversight and Media Transparency - Encourage transparency and public accountability by: - Broadcasting legislative proceedings and maintaining open communication with the media. - Ensuring public awareness of any attempts to involve police in legislative affairs, deterring undue interference. 5. Penalties for Unauthorized Entry - Establish strict penalties for unauthorized entry by police or government officials, reinforcing the principle that legislative spaces are sacrosanct. • Disciplinary measures could also apply to legislators or officials who request or allow unlawful police presence. 6. Bipartisan Cooperation - Political parties need to work together to protect the integrity of the legislature, setting aside partisan conflicts to prevent misuse of law enforcement for political ends. - Bipartisan agreements can explicitly limit circumstances under which external forces may intervene in legislative processes. 7. Public Demonstrations of Commitment to Democracy - South Korean citizens are highly engaged in their democracy. Public support and mobilization can serve as a deterrent to actions that undermine democratic norms, including police overreach. By combining strong legal frameworks, institutional safeguards, and civic vigilance, South Korea can continue to protect the sanctity of its National Assembly and prevent unauthorized police intervention. This would help maintain trust in democratic institutions and uphold the rule of law.

[@skhyon2866]

This is the kind of comment that looks great on the surface but is load of hot bullshit of you look a little deeper. Also what happens if foreigners with 0 understanding of the cultural, political, and economic fabric of South Korea insert their opinion. In the past 4 years of Biden's presidency, South Korea has quietly been infiltrated by CCP sympathizers with roots in the Korean democracy movements of the 80's and 90's. Sounds too unbelievable. Sounds too illogical. But think about the ideals of those leftist student movements and is it really a surprise Leninist ideals appeals to the DPK? Look deeper. Start with the 2016 impeachment of President Park Geun Hye and the media portrayal of her actions during the Sewol ferry disaster. A dirty president, but the impeachment of a one-term duly elected president the right action? From that point, look at President Moon's record. Foreign policy with North Korea especially. And relations with China/India (more subtle but indicative). Posturing to secure South Korea neutrality in a potential war between nuclear powers, leaving Japan the only reliable East Asian ally capable of defending Taiwan and Southeast Asia from Chinese forces. On January 7, 2021, a resounding majority of Americans would have denounced President Trump's 2024 reelection bid. In three years, the country opened its eyes to the maddening deterioration of individual rights against the increasing power of the state. I do not like Trump. Or Yoon. But interestingly enough, I have never thought it necessary to choose what I liked. Because I can only choose the leader that will protect me and my right to be free from tyranny. Don't forget COVID.

[@make_some_noise]

lmao thanks chatgpt

[@sochaker1]

40:23 Of course I am not representing all younger generations in Korea, but I can tell you guys it's not true Because of the Japan friendly policy from ruling party, a majority of my generations has unpleasant attitudes Especially in 2023 and 2024, low currency of Yen leads to increased number of tourist to the Japan but, it does not mean we are favourable toward the Japan politically

[@Perhapsawiseman]

7:41, what structure is that?

[@Chips98989]

It's called DDP. It was designed by Zaha Hadid and acts as a exhibition space/art gallery/fashion show venue. It initially gained a lot of criticism due to its massive budget and inefficient, unharmonious design, but now it kinda became a nice futuristic architecture.

[@sam_fool]

maps.app.goo.gl/HY5Ms3SiV1zdCwuy9 that is DDP(Dongdaemun Design Plaza)

[@Lukeclout]

South Korea needs to elect a K-drama director as '大统领‘。 'Whirlwind' has a better plot and sophistication than this botched coup. 1. Sending special forces in with 4 eyes nvgs, in camouflage ocps in the middle of Seoul. (Wtf is 40,000 USD NVGS worth in a place where the lights are all on?) 2. Primary step of political coups is that you must, at least partially shut off the internet, electricity and communications to create information black out while you seize critical terrain. Everyone saw Yoons attempt on live TV with forces moving into Parliament. The primary targets should've been TV stations, data centers/telecommunications and power grid. 3. Upon special seizure of terrain, there must a legitimation of your coup by placing, incentivizing or coercing key government personnel, institutions and a portion of the general masses to accept your reign.

[@AkibaWariiMedia-j6o]

He did it all to protect his wife, just like in Kdrama it's toxic romance story with tragic end

[@Sunny-wx5dh]

그는 선거가 부패했다는걸 인지하고, 그 뒤에 있는 거대한 카르텔을 알게되었다. 선거관리위원회는 병들었지만 제대로 수사할 수 없는 상황이었다. 거기에 좌파들의 믿을수없이 강한 압박이 강화되었다.

[@JackieTrainwreck]

And Lee Jae Myung is doing everything he possibly can to avoid a lengthy prison term...

[@Guckkasten85]

Wow, very nice overview of what happened

[@Nick-ue7iw]

"south korea's politics are loud, and better for it". Would LOVE to hear this guy's opinions on any rallies that are not pro left leaning. I can only imagine the results.

[@perlynnn]

Whole episode feels like watching Netflix series 'The Whirlwind' :D

[@iIiiIiiiliiIiiIl]

President Yoon Seok-yeol is a perfect fit for the next Netflix K-drama A president who makes his country his enemy to protect his wife The last romantic of this era

[@user-qb8lh2cc3v]

잘못된 정보입니다 윤석열은 자신과 공범인 아내를 보호하려 한것이지 사랑 때문에 학살을 자행하려 한게 아닙니다 그들이 좋아하는 것은 돈이고 가장 하찮게 생각 한 것은 국민의 목숨과 나라 입니다

[@xxoo-lp6vc]

his master still want to keep this "American Pie " . 😨 they just need to get 1 judge to have "Accident"

[@qq101359]

19:34 They are just wildly ridiculous in their claims. So no one is supporting their cause except the doctors themselves. This isn't the first time they've gone on strike, and they've been extremely hostile to any policy that tries to touch their wallets (medicine/medical division, increasing the number of doctors, etc.) and have done everything they can to frustrate every reform. The medical reform is probably one of the few good things Yun has done that has gotten public support, although his other mistake was not suppressing it earlier and letting them strike like this.

[@yenfreeze]

There is another aspirant sitting in Taipei waiting for his moment of glory

[@vtdxr520]

Yoon wanted to be like Kim jung un in SK!!!

[@jpark601]

The Martial Law was declared without the proper procedure or the reason. So this should be defined as a self-coup. Why did he do it? To turn Korea to an authoritarian country. It's becoming clear how long he and his cronies have been preparing for this. If you looked into Lee Jae Myung's cases you would have found they are exaggerated and baseless. And if you looked into Yoon's past, you would have found he's a dictator in all his positions. Even when he was a chief prosecutor he had no issue bending rules to meet his needs. One other thing you totally missed is Kim Kun Hee. How she is doing the ruling behind all Yoon's decisions. To report on another country's complexity you need more than interviewing people from both sides. You only have part of the full picture.

[@horang99]

Declaration of the state of affairs against Korea martial law as several languages including Hindi Version kzbin.info/www/bejne/onaVlXl5fM6LY7csi=Irbxo6nIZJEf5ey-

[@Juu-Ren]

우리 스스로 위정자들로부터 독립을 쟁취하리라

[@hafizulasyraf5670]

English Caption please

[@roflryan1]

as you can see gun control works very well.

[@01Nomadee]

I don't think this video provides a balanced perspective. The interviewees seem biased, only focusing on one side of the issue. There’s no in-depth reporting on why Yoon Suk Yeol made this decision or what's happening within the Korean government. It doesn’t address what he meant when he mentioned other cabinet members being fired, nor does it explore the concerns about alleged communist sympathizers in the government. I’m not looking for reporting that pushes a particular narrative; I want a more thorough and objective investigation.

[@Nick-ue7iw]

What, you mean the white guys studying Korean politics at a woman's university might be biased? LOL. All media is biased, including the CNA.

[@je2216]

태도 개선이 무슨말이야? 태도개선? 전문가가 단어선택이 일뽕스럽네

[@TurboK24z]

I was there as close as you can be as a foreigner. Well, what do you know No RIOTING of Ma and Pa shops Unlike some PEOPLE. Cough* cough* U.S.

[@LonganLee]

What is a Soldier? A human with a mind of his own or just a blunt tool used under martial law?😅 华人有句话说”好男不当兵“. 试问一下，是为什么？😅

[@LonganLee]

I ask Asian viewers especially Singaporeans, if South Koreans were Singaporeans, when the Martial Law was announced, what would be their response? Could it be : 1. Just like South Koreans : concert style peaceful effective matured protest. But Singaporeans are not used to protests and voicing up against authorities. 2. People saying "Aiya, protest for fk? Got food to eat, job to do, cans alreadys. You think very smart? You go and be the president lah!! Jia Bah Boh Tsai Bhung! Martial law martial law lah! That's life. We must continue to trust. " 🤭🏳️🏳️🏳️🏳️🏳️🏳️🐑

[@Fadem12forReal]

Crazy

[@Swo882]

Korea is literal k drama in real life

[@akopper]

Very random but, imagine how confused the North Koreans must be like. (Those few that monitor SK/have internet)

[@Onil12D]

South Korea was lucky that the Korean President did not study how President Marcos Sr. of the Philippines started his martial law

[@AlphaSorceror]

Wonder if this would happen in 🇸🇬?

[@Dominus_Potatus]

Does SG have any reasons? I mean SG is surrounded by its allies from any directions. Plus... do you want to be a leader of ruined economy country? A lot of nations choose SG as SEA's money hubs, plane hubs, ship hubs because its stability. If somehow SG's leader makes it unstable, it creates precedence and other investors will do "de-risk"ing

[@AlphaSorceror]

@ I said I wonder if it would happen.

[@joj9750]

@@AlphaSorcerorno

[@uludak8468]

??. SG already has become a dictatorship

[@AlphaSorceror]

@@uludak8468dictatorships are fine as long as it has good government.

[@thomasnolte8478]

Hey, trump would not have doubled down

[@josephgen467]

He imposed Martial Law on the innocent people and attempted to start war against North Korea while North Korea had no intention of war at all.

[@Adametevecanal]

Crazy😮😮😮

[@grillaleaf8110]

12:39 No he would not. He would not have imposed Martial law unlawfully.

[@bradytom5468]

Shut up clown

[@mtwhrj]

Childish president

[@junelee5975]

stop exaggerating

[@backto-il9ne]

Great job, Korea. I am inspired by these politicians' dedication to safeguarding their democracy. Meanwhile in America, the politician who violated the constitution and attempted a coup was voted again as president lol "Greatest democracy in the world" indeed 😂

[@Dominus_Potatus]

Tge fact is he is elected democraticly by people. He won on a lot of districts which means he is suppirted by majority of people in those districts. But I always feel stupid that non US Citizens are allowed to vote. You can literally come and give vote without any ID. That... my friend... is surpised me

[@joj9750]

@@Dominus_Potatus??? Only citizens can vote, where are you getting this info from

[@pauldesigncomics2625]

@@Dominus_Potatuswhat are you talking about?

[@skhyon2866]

From a person who has lived in Korea for the past 12 years, I find it highly offensive that a foreigner who only watches mainstream media can automatically assume the protestors in favor of impeachment are in favor of democracy. Lee Jae Myung, if President Yoon's impeachment is confirmed by the courts, will implement policies that put American liberals to shame. To understand how this can be, first know that Koreans do not value individual liberty as much as America. Know that for most Koreans, democracy is prosperity and if the Chinese promise at the expense of freedom, right now a large majority of Koreans are willing to accept that deal. We wait for Trump. Musk. Or anyone who values the real meaning of individual freedom and human rights, not just the words the obfuscators use.

[@Dominus_Potatus]

@@joj9750 It is not a rocket science, you can find the information in the Internet. Voters in 15 states that do not require voters to show any form of ID: California, Haawii, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Vermont, Washington DC. There might be a law that you must be a US Citizen but if you don't need to show any form of ID, practically everyone can vote. Don't trust me, find the information in the internet, my keyword: "States that do not require ID to vote in USA"

[@GohBen-g8n]

Womens

[@ericolsen3302]

Who is this Professor Tizzard that thinks he can trash Trump at 12:40? Did he first consider that Trump wouldn't have made such an unqualified decision for martial law?

[@goldenfreddy256]

Are they for real copying arcane nowww???

[@Outis___]

What happens in Korea is not known exactly overseas, so we inform overseas with the help of a translator. Everyone has seen the Korean National Assembly approve the presidential impeachment bill without proper investigation or processing. Many people may wonder how such a thing is legally possible, which is Korean law. Similarly, according to Korean law, martial law is legal and the authority of the president. The fact that a cabinet meeting was held and the meeting was held regardless of the outcome of the meeting was enough to start martial law, and if the National Assembly decides to lift martial law, the martial law is lifted, which satisfies the legal form and requirements. First of all, you need to know that this was completely legal martial law. After sending a small number of troops to the National Assembly to draw attention, far more, including IT experts, are known to have joined the election commission and copied the data on the servers. It was to catch evidence of fraudulent elections. According to reports, the commission decided to spend $1.5 million (W2 billion) to replace the servers. There would have been no reason to replace them unless they had destroyed evidence of fraudulent elections. We will have to wait and see how the evidence of fraudulent elections brought out by the president is reflected and published in the investigation. The current issue is impeachment, and I'm talking about this. In conclusion, there is no impeachment. Within three or six months, the president is back. The reason relates to the composition of the judges of the Constitutional Court. There should be nine justices, currently six and three are vacant. This is because Lee Jae-myung, the leader of the opposition party, was delaying the appointment of justices in order to delay the Supreme Court's ruling on his own various illegal crimes. The president may have calculated that. He declared that he would plead the constitutional court process himself. And he demanded that the scene be broadcast live. It should not be forgotten that the president of Yoon Suk Yeol was a former prosecutor general. He is more knowledgeable about the law and better at creating an investigative process system than anyone else. If only one of the six current constitutional judges opposes impeachment, impeachment will not be established. It is due to the insufficient number of constitutional judges. And, now that there are more than two conservative constitutional judges, it is hard to establish an impeachment. Constitutional scholars say that impeachment is impossible under the Constitution. Maybe there will be a case where all six justices are against impeachment. Of course, two of them are on Lee's side, so at least two votes could be eliminated. This martial law may not have been done all the way the president planned and wanted, but I think some big structures and things that fit the purpose of martial law worked. It is to find out the structure of not being impeached and fraudulent elections and to see that China is behind it. This fight has just begun. The essence of this fight is the confrontation between liberal and authoritarian forces. This work of cutting China's influence in elections will take the liberal one step closer to victory.

[@jinlee5482]

Don't take this at face value. It's completely false. The president did not hold a Cabinet meeting, and Korea is not currently in a state of war. If he intends to declare martial law, he is obligated to inform the National Assembly, but he has failed to do so. Instead, there is evidence suggesting he mobilized the military to block lawmakers from lifting martial law. The claim of an unfair election is absurd and undermines the very system through which he himself was elected. Moreover, this issue has already been investigated and proven to be untrue.

[@skhyon2866]

Finally, someone who knows what to say to foreigners. This is not a domestic issue. This is a global issue. Open a map. Highlight in one color the countries in the world under the Russia, China, Iran, North Korea banner. Keep India neutral. Highlight democracies aligned with the U.S. Consider Russia-Ukraine, Israel-Iran war in the Middle East (is that war really about Palestine? Yes and no. Just like South Korea's issues are both domestic/global). Consider Shinzo Abe's assassination and the CCP attempt to intefere in Japanese parliamentary elections. Is this about South Korea? Yes, but Korea's issues will always be determined by global forces. Like every other country in today's globalized world. What country remains up for grabs in the global realignment of world powers? South Korea. Long seen as a friend of the West, South Korea, not North Korea, is up for grabs. The CCP organization is smart for using North Korea as a cover, using it to distract democratically elected leaders from its blatant interference in South Korean politics. The true tragedy is the willingness of so many Koreans to the Chinese Communist Party. Fueled by fear and greed, the VENEER of pragmatism, they decided that caving to China was the best way to secure a prosperous future for South Korea. Traitors to democracy. Traitors to freedom. Traitors to good old-fashioned common sense. Mark my words. With or without impeachment, the war between democracy and the "People's Republics" has only just begun.

[@linguini4311]

The sub-10% Yoon supporters are really out in force here spreading propaganda and lies as usual. We literally have live video evidence of soldiers and police illegally blocking lawmakers from entering the assembly building to vote to cancel martial law, and confessions from special forces commanders saying they were ordered to drag the lawmakers out of the building (also illegal and unconstitutional). The only reason the cancellation vote went through was because the commanders disobeyed those orders and refused to interfere with the vote. Your guy tried to pull a coup without securing loyalty from the military first and got himself absolutely screwed.

[@linguini4311]

The sub-10% Yoon supporters are really out in force here spreading propaganda and lies as usual. We literally have live video evidence of soldiers and police illegally blocking lawmakers from entering the assembly building to vote to cancel martial law, and confessions from special forces commanders saying they were ordered to drag the lawmakers out of the building (also illegal and unconstitutional). The only reason the cancellation vote went through was because the commanders disobeyed those orders and refused to interfere with the vote. Your guy tried to pull a coup without securing loyalty from the military first and got himself absolutely screwed.

[@kuoro987]

Fake news from 10% of Yoon Seok-yeol supporters who are trying to manipulate public opinion around the world. They are spreading lies all over the world. No matter how hard you try, President Yoon Seok-yeol will be arrested and go to jail anyway.

[@Outis___]

The truth of martial law is hardly known outside of Korea, so I tell you the real story with the help of a translator. It may sound strange, but this martial law was a legal act guaranteed by the Korean Constitution. According to the Korean Constitution, martial law should be initiated through a Cabinet meeting, and the end of martial law is subject to the decision of the National Assembly. At the Cabinet meeting, most members of the State Council opposed the start of martial law, but martial law began. The reason is that the legitimacy of the initiation of martial law is not the result of the cabinet meeting, but the fact that the cabinet meeting was held. Of course, the law is strange, but the fact that it was followed is important. In addition, within three hours of martial law, the decision to lift martial law was made by the resolution of the National Assembly, and the president accepted the decision. The President has met all the legal forms and requirements related to martial law. This martial law is not illegal, at least under Korean constitution. Isn't that strange, then? Why did the president forcefully start martial law, which would be lifted soon? This may be the weirdest part, but many Koreans have already noticed why. In the Sonja Byeongjeom, the classical military book of the East, the word 'Seongdong Gyeokseo' is said. It is a military code to make the east loud and attack the west. The president tried to use the Sungdong Command. The National Assembly had a minimum number of troops, It didn't stop most lawmakers from entering the main building of the National Assembly. There were some lawmakers who went over some walls, but they just had to enter the main gate. Many lawmakers presented identification cards to soldiers, entered the National Assembly and voted to suspend martial law. When all the opposition parties were concentrating on the National Assembly, the President sent more troops to the Election Commission than the National Assembly. They included a significant number of IT professionals, The soldiers seemed to be trying to extract some evidence from the central server of the Election Commission. And, though not exactly everything is known, the mission seems to have succeeded. Let's conclude. The president aimed to catch evidence of fraudulent elections prevalent in Korea. China is behind the election fraud. Opposition forces with China have brought electronic ticket machines and electronic ticket systems to Korea, It is suspected of being easy to manipulate: at least two parliamentary and one presidential election, In other words, it is believed that there was election fraud in the election of the previous president of Moon Jae In. The Election Commission is a constitutional independent body that rejects audits by the Board of Audit and Inspection, The search and seizure warrant submitted to the court was repeatedly rejected. The only practical way to investigate the Election Commission is martial law. It uses both democratic procedures and methods, The Election Commission investigation has been repeatedly blocked, and numerous accusations of election fraud have all been rejected, There have been cases in which those who have monitored and exposed fraudulent elections have been sentenced to prison when evidence has been fabricated. Rather, DNA extracted from the exposed was placed in a space that didn't even go and was manipulated and imprisoned as if it had penetrated the space. Only that part of the evidence of the fraudulent election was destroyed by fire in a specific investigation room of the prosecution. Powerful and huge forces are involved in rigged elections and have prevented rigged election investigations. It is speculated that these fraudulent elections may have involved Chinese intervention, Many countries in the Belt and Road trade with China have been involved in controversy over fraudulent elections since the late 2010s due to Korean electronic counting machines. In Kyrgyzstan, Romania, El Salvador, and other countries, there were fraudulent elections, and all of them were Korean electronic indicators, It was China intervening behind the scenes. This fight is not just a martial law incident that took place in Korea, a particular country, Two big battles around the world, the conflict between the United States and China, a microcosm of the war in which liberal forces fight against authoritarian forces. So, there may be further background to the question of why Yoon Suk Yeol's president did martial law at this point. The big opposition party, which has 190 seats out of 300 due to rigged elections, has cut the administration's budget in almost every way, They impeached 22 officials of the administration and made them disappear. They were actually plotting a state paralysis. In particular, the special activity expenses in the budget related to the presidential office were made to zero. This background may have encouraged the president's martial law. Also, it means "reflective behavior therapy." That is, if the opposition party uses the right of the law to run a legislative riot, it makes the president realize that the right of the law can do martial law. If you test what's possible by law to the limit, you let the opposition party realize what's happening to each other. If the opposition's indiscriminate impeachment is justified by law, then the president's martial law is justified by law. However, the essential reason is to end rigged elections. If we fail to prevent the election fraud, the opposition party will continue to maintain its power in a negative way, It means that China's influence in Korea will grow. Unlike what is known abroad, support for power in Korea is 50-50. There are over 80 polls saying martial law is wrong, but if you're asking who you're going to support, it's 50-50. The president's martial law does not immediately shift to the support of the opposition. The public is looking at the situation relatively coldly. And, little is known about the inside story of rigged elections yet. Yoon Suk Yeol's martial law would not have happened if Harris or Biden had been elected. Only after President Trump was elected would he have thought he could investigate the election fraud. I'm not saying Harris was rigged, Some of the forces who supported her tend to turn a blind eye to benefiting from the rigged elections, which are set in China, This is because Korea's martial law leads to election fraud investigations, and we are wary of it affecting the Democratic Party of the United States. Please keep an eye on this issue in Korea. This fight is larger than expected, and the question of overcoming rigged elections and winning the free world depends.

[@22cranbrookave]

You wrote whole essay! Sorry couldn't finish reading all

[@prestonlee2842]

@@22cranbrookavealmost none of it is true, a lot of it is copy and pasted

[@유유bkk]

Rigged election is an outrageous and false claim. Period.

[@유유bkk]

Rigged election? It is an outrageous, false and stupid claim. Period.

[@liuli-r4x]

我们国家这么牛逼吗 proud of my country😊

[@lastChang]

Mr. Yoon ❤️ is regarded as *the best South Korean 🇰🇷 leader ever!* Job well done in getting: - the Korea-Japan-US relationship in place, and - an extended deterrent agreement with the US, where South Korea has a direct input in the American nucler deterrent in response to the North Korean and Chinese threats.

[@johnhemryjson8673]

Anyone who like this troll you are really stupid 😂😂😂

[@leexingha]

pathetic low lifer

[@buenobeo860]

Yun is actually regarded as the most terrible president ever in S. Korea, even worse than military dictators decades ago. The Yun approval rate has been mostly around 20%. He was a terrible alcoholic and hardly went to work on time. Often he went to work at 1:00 pm out of a hangover. He has a hot temper and treated his staff very ferociously. He did not have any vision as to how to lead the country. He just shouted at the opposition party, " YOU ARE A COMMUNIST AND ANTI STATE FORCE." He got impeached by the Korean Assembly and the final ruling is being done at the Constitutional Court of Justice.

[@유유bkk]

Yoon will be recorded as the Worst president ever. No doubt about that.

[@ItakenoBS]

윤석렬은 그냥 정신병자

[@stephendueker9006]

The self inflicted damage the democratic party did is incorrect and I do not know what you are taking the words of this Tizzard guy without context. Seoul mayor was falsely accused and if he did not take his life, the police would target his whole family. It was purely heroic to do such an act. He was a good mayor. Cho Kuk, his offense, his daughter embellished her medical school resume????? by saying something to the effect she volunteers for 8 hr when it was 4. Suicide to protect the family for attacks by prosecutors is quite common. The prosecutorial system is what needs to be abolished in SK. The scandals are falsified daily in SK while the people making the charges are doing exactly that.

[@junelee5975]

lee jaemyung is the worst. we koreans don't like him

[@Sean-yv4ek]

This is how they have been able to survive the last 5 thousand years. They are not going to surrender without a fight. Yoon was messing with wrong ppl.

[@gfuah1499]

The lady parliament member is my bias. ❤