Inside the Lab That's Turning Moon Water Into Rocket Fuel

[@Seeker]

Hi Seekers! Thanks for watching, we've seen some concerns raised about the possibility of over-mining the Moon, but the good news is this would be pretty difficult (not to mention take many millions of years). According to NASA's Jet Propulsion Lab, if 1 metric ton was removed from the Moon each day, it would take roughly 220 million years to deplete just 1% of the Moon's mass. To find out more about moon mining (and its possible impacts) check out this JPL infographic: www.jpl.nasa.gov/infographics/infographic.view.php?id=11272

[@74360CUDA]

I love how people don't realize how small we really are..

[@long-timelistenerfirst-t-us2yy]

@Luke Nelson - iq 143??? did they pat you on the head when they told you that? let me guess, you went to public school in the midwest 😁

[@long-timelistenerfirst-t-us2yy]

@warren WTF - it is. much of what we saw here in this video isnt really going to work up there, at least not in the way they are showing it.

[@SpaceCakeism]

​@Luke Nelson Mr. "IQ143," I think you're forgetting the likelihood of a planetary-, and/or moon-swarm, of artificial habitats, enclosed in mined out asteroid negating the loss of mass "problem;" besides, there are a bunch of other propulsion options, that are viable on the moon, as it has next to no atmosphere, and lower gravity, like: Solar/fusion powered mass drivers. I believe the main idea of using the resources on the moon, as rocket fuel, isn't intended to be a sustainable way of doing things, it's just a temporary solution while humanity sets up the infrastructure, to be able to use something like mass drivers. Also, the orbit isn't decaying, it's not as if the moon is going to crash into the earth, the orbit is extending. Regarding the "viability of the planet:" As far as I'm aware, there is no conclusive evidence, or proof, that the changes in tides, would do anything; while it is *EXPECTED* to have major consequences, it's something that at best, we can only simulate, at this stage... We only have one earth, with a biomass, to test it on; besides it's not like we can actually realistically run any scientific experiments, to determine this, with current tech & mass budgets; not to forget, that mass budget could be better spent, on something else, like a Dyson swarm. Talking about planning things, hundreds of millions of years in advance, isn't really a viable way of doing things; humanity's current level of knowledge, is *NOT* the "be-all, and end-all" of knowledge, nor is yours. If humanity decides, on continuing to stay in this solar system for extended periods of time, like several billion years, then we better start mining the sun, through a process known as star lifting, in order to extend it's lifetime; as it's expected, that our star, is going to start expanding & heating up, the next few hundred million years, due to the observed life cycles, of other stars of similar and/or greater mass. If anything, to me, it seems as if it's you, who seems to be the shortsighted/ignorant one here... If you really think that the scientific community is a "huge joke," I believe you should check sources, and avoid double reports. (The type, where people without any in-depth knowledge, just takes a few keywords from the original reports, misinterprets it, then proceeds to publish it, and what follows, is that all hell breaks loose.) Also, the correct terms are: 143 IQ, and/or IQ of 143; besides, IQ has nothing to do, with the amount of accumulated knowledge; stroking your ego like that, just makes it seem like the Dunning-Kruger effect is at play. IQ is simply a measurement, of someones ability to learn, and/or solve complex tasks. Besides there's the problem of accurately measuring IQs above/bellow: 100 ± (standard deviation [15] x2.) -Someone with an intelligence quota, of less than 143.

[@tayzatun6351]

Remember how the wright brothers made a workin plane the SAME year a prediction went out that flying machine would be possibly only millions of years in the future. Yeah. I don't think so. No way, we are just gonna take a metric tonne a day. Moon getting overmined could easily still be an issue.

[@somesasquatchwithasmartpho2153]

Scientists: "You Can Make Rocket Fuel From Moon Dust!" America: *Looks Like Moon Could Use Some Freedom*

[@austinpierceTV]

Some Sasquatch With A Smartphone operation moon oil

[@jessyalexander3985]

Damn right!

[@alcopeland1359]

Tryed it not much of a buzz...plus i sneezed a meteror

[@eugenekrabs4016]

🤣 that moon needs some democracy

[@thanos8107]

At least the next war will be fought on the moon, nuke the moon

[@g-mo7130]

Narrator: "You need a pretty powerful mirror" That's not a mirror

[@airlinena]

It's a whole new Zeitgeist....... 😂😅🤣 Seeker is loosing it!

[@willkessner2674]

Thomas Lucas it doesn’t really tho. Sure it detracts through the atmosphere and shifts the spectrum, but down here it works basically the same, just slowed down the tiniest bit.

[@michaelesposito2629]

Will Kessner tiniest bit? Lol without shielding, you’d almost instantly get sunburned in space. Our atmosphere protects us from the sun, extremely well

[@raesiford6316]

Itll be much faster in space because of the NO atmosphere as you said my dude

[@kineticstar]

Apparently none of them have broached the physical properties of wave guides to focus their light source.

[@ultrafoxyt]

2:47 Science Guy: It's Basically a Reverse Vacuum Me: That's a leaf blower

[@kineticstar]

With no air or atmosphere to blow.

[@kineticstar]

@Timothy Mckee so that makes you a racist mission control then?

[@exorias625]

@Timothy Mckee 🤣🤣🤣

[@kineticstar]

@Timothy Mckee says the racist.

[@kineticstar]

@Timothy Mckee I'm sure you will find a way. I won't spend any more time then this on you.

[@Gamer-gw5lh]

9:51 very big brain

[@aaana2692]

IM BIG BRAIN, YOUR SMALL BRAIN

[@Scarletraven87]

9:51 *

[@HiAdrian]

@@Scarletraven87 Thanks, small brains rarely get the timestamp right.

[@fpshooterful]

LOL... omg i was going to about to mention the SAME thing.... how is this ROCKET science guy NOT know about how MICROWAVE was invented? I mean i am not an engineering student or anything like that. BUT, even i knew microwaves were first discovered during WWII.

[@Gamer-gw5lh]

@@Scarletraven87 I am not big brain

[@patricksanders858]

Ummmm "mirror" is actually a lens. Come on writers!

[@filonin2]

@72 degree pyramid technology Suppressed patents Your reply bot is broken.

[@CollinRaves]

That's what I was thinking 😂

[@filonin2]

@zak ryals Actually your content is awful. I tried.

[@LanDiEvil]

Voice Over: You need a pretty powerful mirror. People On Street: The eBay seller said this was a mirror.

[@thatguitarguy99]

I went to UCF with Hunter! So cool recognizing a fellow engineer in a Seeker video

[@miltonwarrenjr5486]

You should have over 1k likes on this. But the narrator vs scientist memes are what ppl like :/

[@joshmellon390]

@@miltonwarrenjr5486 lmfao no one cares about other people's comments in KZbin videos my dude

[@joshmellon390]

Nobody watches videos for other people's comments lol

[@nicksalvatore5717]

Mellonoma The Great I like to read comments along with many others. I often check the comments first when opening a video

[@joshmellon390]

@@nicksalvatore5717 fair enough, I actually agree. I was referring to presenting it as it's own content, what people "want to see" is the video lol

[@sandeep56sa]

2020 we discovered fuel made by moon rock 2070 there is no moon in the sky

[@woodzwxrks593]

@Alshamari Baha2 when man sees an opportunity to make money anything is possible tbh

[@faisal_noor]

Wow.. it's time to destroy the moon like earth..

[@daudabappa932]

or it will be a sponsored by DHL moon, no telescope required.

[@flycrack7686]

@@woodzwxrks593 thats absolut bullshit, but keep telling that nonsense to you until you really believe it.

[@captain16crush46]

@@flycrack7686 no it's not. Why do you think all these companies started forming over the last 20 years, because they know they could get paid a shit ton of money in the future. The economy is literally moving to outer space now.

[@74360CUDA]

I can take the lens from a '90s TV and melt shit too....

[@thefirstsin]

Me too, I cooked this book in half

[@Mattit123]

"Technology"

[@74360CUDA]

@@jue5335 I agree, but they don't own moondust either it's their own homemade regolith. Of course, I don't own that either. :)

[@iammiahblaze]

@@74360CUDA 😂

[@mal2ksc]

Pronouncing "fresnel" correctly is a geek shibboleth.

[@fundemort]

Hey this is no rocket science! This is moon science!

[@QueenetBowie]

That’s one hell of a title you’ve got there Fundermort

[@fireball75677]

It's Moon Rocket Science duh 😊

[@c187rocks]

While watching this, I can't happen to think that I need to start "YEET Express" a company that tosses your shit from LEO to Lunar and back.

[@defensivekobra3873]

..sooo skyhook?

[@c187rocks]

@@defensivekobra3873 Skyhooks that YEEEEETTTTT!

[@Villlz]

So we’re gonna destroy the moon by stripping it of its resources smh

[@mikeschiavoni5973]

..And the tide swirl.

[@carlsm95]

The moon is already a barren rock with no life. You "strip" it of resources, and it will still be a barren rock with no life. You make me smh.

[@Villlz]

Carl M man shut your Carl wheezer from jimmy neutron head ass up, you don’t know shit

[@UmbraHand]

Villy Sengmany That won’t destroy the moon. The mass taken will be neglible to its gravity effect

[@mikeschiavoni5973]

@@carlsm95 it controls the tide. Mess with the tide, destroy the earth, what part of that are you missing??

[@BoolrVids]

They’re using grant Thompson’s prototype design for the TV lense burner :,)

[@simonkimberly6956]

ACfilms its been around longer.

[@StremmeR]

@@simonkimberly6956 much longer... Archimedes' death ray was based on it.

[@dannyobrian5957]

Grants on the moon now laughing at us

[@MrEh5]

Grants grand parents where not born when the first Fresnel where invented.

[@Knives323]

The engine used to land at a refueling site, would be the engine used to take off from a refueling site. Points to Elon

[@52NDPRESIDENT]

@mrbanik2010 fraud hah he is no fraud just a genius

[@52NDPRESIDENT]

@mrbanik2010 he is one of man kinds greatest men

[@1nvd]

mrbanik2010 why do idiots like you never leave us with a source! Elaborate please so we can have a discussion and not randomly attack each other assuming what each other knows....

[@Anomize23]

mrbanik2010 You cannot even explain why he is a fraud if you tried. Lmao

[@thefirstsin]

Why are people hating someone that's more intelligent than them :V smh

[@JustGuineaPigs01]

I feel like teletubbies had some influence on planetvac

[@sLxicecube]

So we are already plundering the moon resources noice!

[@ThEuNbEaTeN1994]

Q. E. D. Cute animals wouldn’t stop them 😂 are you 5?

[@Grinsekatze113]

moving heavy industry off earth is a good thing

[@goozebump]

@OPEN YOUR MIND B4 UR MOUTH because you are a weaterner who gains progess at the detriment of millions of ther people around the worls

[@mykincadult-store1219]

@@goozebump you're using Western technology now 🙄

[@moncoeur6296]

You guys should google what would happen if we have no moon/only half the mass of the moon. Spoiler: We need the full one.

[@SawBlood45]

I'd be more interested in a cure for the kung flu but ok.

[@PinataOblongata]

Virologists aren't going to be much good at space engineering, and vice versa. Not a zero sum game, though I agree virus defence is ultimately more important.

[@CanineDefenseTechnologies]

3:19 Who else noticed the DHL logo 😂

[@rottenpoet6675]

I wonder if they took some ideas from space engineers or cerbal s.p. or similar games

[@graxx478]

Quantum Droid it’s the other way around.

[@rottenpoet6675]

I ment that by the player created content not the developers

[@zchats]

0:16 “...you need a pretty powerful mirror.” ‘Shows a Fresnel lens’

[@elderlopez4940]

Great team work. Inspiring for our youth. We need role models to follow your lead. Thanks for sharing. And congratulations on your achievements.

[@mattandmegandiercks8809]

Wow you guys got a lot of money for looks... holding lenses by hand and mentioning electrolysis to separate the oxygen from minerals in opposition to extracting hydrogen from water. Talking about how magnetrons melt chocolate... ya no shit. And your doing a great job still thinking inside the box... Boy Scouts at its finest...regurgitation does not imply expansion of current understanding

[@i3_13]

I wanna live 'til 2100.

[@jakobschultz1663]

I wanna live until 2100 only if we massively reduce the carbon emissions if not, I'm fine without famines and wars for resources...

[@zarinkai2927]

What are you a gullible 3 year old? Only the rich & privileged wish for long lives. For the rest of us, the world is only gonna get worse. Better off checking out before the age of 60 💁

[@IamINERT]

I would be 98

[@MrToLIL]

@@jakobschultz1663 Well you're obviously brainwashed. Probably think Greta is great lol. Learn to distinguish the alarmist MSM from the truth.

[@ProgFaiz]

If our governments doesn't destroy us.

[@SpaceCakeism]

Probably the most efficient, and resource saving way, to travel from the moon, instead of going there to refuel, would be: Setting up a mass driver, and having it powered by fusion/solar; this, of course, is going to require some infrastructure, so understandable why it's not the first goal, however, it should be a goal... Also getting shot out of a giant spaceship railgun, just seems like a fun concept.

[@linecraftman3907]

it's only good for cargo, this wouldn't work for people

[@crestfallensunbro6001]

for manned craft this could be used for getting fuel into orbit

[@Shinoo_B]

9:52 BIG BRAIN

[@maruchannuudle657]

H O T P O C K ET S 10:12

[@hahtos]

All very interesting and cool.....I just have a sneaking feeling that SpaceX will land a Starship on the Moon before any of these projects will have made a real difference...

[@sayyamzahid7312]

I live in Karachi Pakistan and I like your comment if you don't mind

[@RelanxStars]

This doesn’t sound sustainable... The moon’s resources are finite and we don’t have any way to replenish them afaik. Sounds like a short term solution to me.

[@petercarioscia9189]

It doesn't have to be long term. The moon is a stepping stone. As soon as we get access to the asteroid belt well have a billions of tons of raw material. Not to mention Mars is the first target, and similar fuel production processes are already in the works for Martian soil We've been extracting fossil fuels from the earths crust for a few centuries now, and we _may_ be getting close to exhausting them, and fossil fuels are terribly inefficient. We'll me mining vastly more efficient rocket fuels (on a much smaller scale) from the moon, and those same processes can be used at our next destination(s)

[@zengara11]

Yeaaah, nothing is really infinite. At some poin the universe will have nothing in it. No sun, no stars no black holes

[@myfavoritemartian1]

He explained that it was a step towards Mars.....

[@RelanxStars]

The Left can't Meme my thoughts exactly. Just unusual for this type of video not to mention all these points at the end.

[@mattandmegandiercks8809]

Does it sound as short of a term as someone stranded in a desert desperately needing water? Lol and hell ya your right shit be finite

[@pyronac1]

whats one of the dangers on the moon? nasa: dust engineer: cool, im going to make something i call a reverse vacuum and blow ore into a collector. sometimes i worry about our education system......

[@wolfdenranjeet]

Ok Tell me where is MH370 ?

[@mato3108]

I like how the least intelligent people complain about other people's ideas

[@pyronac1]

@@mato3108 what? what about this is complaining? or are you too dumb to know a joke when you read it? i love how dumb people are so quick to attack others intelligence. since you are so smart, please tell me how blowing dust around helps with the dust problem?

[@PinataOblongata]

I think you're right and they will quickly find out that it creates too many maintenance issues and will need to keep those sorts of operations in enclosures - even just a light-weight plastic guide/funnel for the regolith.

[@ozzyfromspace]

Did my guy just say they want to bring hydrogen from Earth? The same hydrogen that comes from steam-methane gas reformation 95% of the time? Bro.

[@thefirstsin]

When they land on the moon they be like: uh Houston we have a problem

[@delta-a17]

I don't see the problem. I also know nothing about this stuff lol If any of you have the time, could you outline the issue?

[@ReddwarfIV]

Where are you getting methane from on the Moon?

[@ReddwarfIV]

@@juicy420jam What do you think "steam-methane gas reformation" means? I know you can get hydrogen from water ice, but Float Circuit seems to be saying they can get it from a process that wouldn't be applicable to the Moon.

[@MrJoJI]

They want moon water,or rocks ,melt it and separate hydrogen and oxygen in the water and use it as a fuel

[@Dave-ct1jk]

200 years ago the American frontier was the big expansion, now we're right back where we started, just trying to survive in a new land.

[@ANJIN-p4q]

I'm no conspiracy theorist but the moon is just a giant balloon stuck in space.

[@tylerritchie6579]

Up'D stack

[@Ernescme]

You know it is good because they mentioned "sustainable" multiple times.

[@endutubecensorship]

0:58 "use that with hydrogen brought from earth" Water has 2 hydrogen atoms, the poles on mars have water, why not get the hydrogen from that source? Am I missing something? Just a farmer passing through, looking to understand

[@bluecomet8416]

if they already had enough water, they wouldn't be mining for more

[@endutubecensorship]

Blue Comet: Aren't the poles on mars huge? Wouldn't the ice there be enough to sustain?

[@endutubecensorship]

Luka Papež: So the topic of the video is just a preliminary extraction of needed resources. Wouldn't it require less logistics to just extract what's needed from the poles? If there's frozen water at the poles with the necessary elements that's where I'd go to setup shop. Just a farmer passing through, looking to understand

[@PinataOblongata]

@@endutubecensorship Orbital plane changes to land at the poles are expensive, fuel-wise, and the poles are massively more undulating and lacking in flat landing sites. They briefly mentioned in the video it was "harder to get to the poles" but not why or how much harder. To get the water from specific craters that have constant shadow is no trivial task - much more logistics.

[@endutubecensorship]

Piñata Oblongata: Understood, I figured it was similar difficulty for a spacecraft to land anywhere on a planet's surface

[@jesusa.2927]

Why mine the only moon we have? Concentrate on asteroids

[@artoruvidal2793]

The moon is so big that it will take millions of years to mine it

[@jesusa.2927]

@@artoruvidal2793 have you seen our mines here on earth? Overall it's a better idea to hunt down asteroids and mine them while they're on orbit.

[@username4441]

>moon water yea, just say that like its a thing now, im sure everyone wont just say what the F?

[@MouseGoat]

? but it is a thing. Also as it turns out water is not a rear thing in the universe, there's tons of it everywhere, but in ice form mostly.

[@raulcavalcante9193]

www.nasa.gov/feature/ames/ice-confirmed-at-the-moon-s-poles this is old news

[@username4441]

@@raulcavalcante9193 well i guess im just not up to date. ill grab my fishing pole. see you there.

[@dickhousepros]

No one will question anything that “science” ever backs up. That’s likely because people have more faith in scientist than their own spirit which btw “science” is slowly revealing be reality. As a matter of fact I believe it has been proven by now that humans intact have a spirit but I didn’t need scientific proof to have faith that it was true.

[@MelaninMagdalene]

I think he’s trolling.

[@Retinetin]

This makes me so giddy just thinking about it. I'm an engineer and can't wait to start being a part of programs like these

[@danievdw]

Love this. Simple and effective. Exactly what we need for the space race. No over complicated massively expensive NASA delicate trinkets.

[@karankapoor3430]

This is exciting, but it’s more concerning really. I mean is there really no moral compass driving science and exploration? I get the point of using moon resources to power rockets back to the earth, but just like what mankind did with beautiful fission and fusion science, this could someday be catastrophic and affect us in unprecedented and unforeseen ways so we must question, why are we doing this and what are the moral and ethical ramifications of our actions!! This is legitimately scary.

[@rakeshto6891]

Humans: We are good at Destroyed things On Earth Scientists: Now time for Moon Nature: What did i do!

[@mr.mercury4247]

There is no nature on the moon, it's a cold barren wasteland. We should exploit it.

[@deadknuckles6346]

Nature created life, they will "destroy" nature but not entirely they will destroy it so beautifully. Life, that nature created, will create the most beautiful objects in the universe. Those of which nature would never have dreamed of (too bad it had to create the brain first, homo sapien could have been that cool), currently waiting for the singularity.

[@carsonrush3352]

@@mr.mercury4247, it creates the tides here on Earth. It's extremely important to nature on Earth.

[@mr.mercury4247]

@@carsonrush3352 how exactly does living the moon and mining it affect that functionality? Even if we are removing mass from the moon we'd literally have remove hundreds of millions of tons of material in order to affect the tides on earth.

[@jackhandy4406]

Mirror??? You mean lens??? Come on this is a science channel!!!

[@jensbond93]

I cant wait for Thunderf00t to do a video on this.

[@delta-a17]

Seems pretty legit to me, though he might see cracks I miss.

[@n.g.s1mple29]

Theres literally nothing wrong with this, smh

[@jc8153]

Pros We’re getting closer to a moonbase. Cons We’ll eventually have no moon

[@yeahkeen2905]

You're kidding yourself if you actually believe that. Don't be ridiculous.

[@jc8153]

Yeah KeeN I wish I had a sarcasm font to indicate that I indeed do no believe in this

[@MelaninMagdalene]

What’s the difference between “moon water” and “earth water”?

[@galfisk]

Moon water is in a shallower gravity well.

[@danievdw]

Water is water.

[@MelaninMagdalene]

galfisk What effect if any does that have on the water?

[@MelaninMagdalene]

Danie van der Westhuizen I guess what I’m asking is what makes them think moon water can be converted into rocket fuel.

[@jm8080ful]

@@MelaninMagdalene There isn't, they will just use water on moon because carrying water from Earth to the moon is impractical. The most practical way is to get fuel, water in this case, from the closest possible source which is the moon itself. They will use the moon as a sort of "hub" to launch man further in to space. This information is in the first part of this series, this is part 2.

[@Fnn895]

Lets destroy moon.

[@Pogosoke]

You should take a look at the research group in Germany at kit that turns co2 from the air into co2-neutral fuel. They already startet a startup with their system and are working on a 2nd version

[@entyropy3262]

Ok, woher stammt die Energie, um den Treibstoff herzustellen ? Na ? Klingelts ?

[@marcyates8052]

I just cant believe it has taken this long to go back to the moon 😕

[@thegenerousdegenerate9395]

Ikr?

[@yourdriver4093]

Would taking significant amounts of the moons materials lower it's weight and effect the way it orbits the earth?

[@carso1500]

No

[@yourdriver4093]

@@carso1500 u know how greedy us humans are.. They probably mine it to nothing.

[@carso1500]

@@yourdriver4093 not physically posible, at least not for now, the moon is the size of continental united states, do you think we could mine the entire of the united states in a couple years, god no

[@yourdriver4093]

@@carso1500 hope not.. But I'm sure we'll try..

[@PinataOblongata]

@@carso1500 You haven't seen Australian pit mines. And why are you using the constraint of "a couple of years"? It can still happen over a longer period, but hey, if expansion ends up being exponential using robots that can build other robots, then it could happen quickly. The answer to the question is, "Yes, but it a 'significant amount' of the entire moon is massive, and the moon is already slowly drifting away from Earth." And to be pedantic it's mass, not weight.

[@Wingman4l7]

"Mining for resources on the moon is no longer the subject of science fiction and artistic renditions..." * shows a 3D-rendered video of concept moon mining robots *

[@ebymumbai]

So informative, so exciting, so virtual

[@camilohiche4475]

On the thumbnail I thought it was Michael from Vsauce. I can't be the only one.

[@ShitStainedBallSack]

I can see nothing that can go wrong here

[@mattandmegandiercks8809]

John Bishop glad to know you see the mechanical errors of why don’t trust a Boeing 737 either

[@MouseGoat]

you say that like you do. and its simply not true, alot can go wrong, tho that depens on what is right and how wrong we talking. Hope you don't believe we gonna affect the moon's orbit, like maybe if we started having lage scale construction plants that exported everything to earth, and we did so for like 100 years (well proply more) then just maybe we afect the moon a bit.

[@Scarletraven87]

Well, you can. But will you?

[@amenoxblitz7317]

Pls don't jinx it

[@kineticstar]

Aliens

[@sanjivinsmoke2719]

Wait until a major mining accident happens.. The moon crack into many peices and the impact of the falling chunks destroyed the surface.. The freaking plot of time machine is repeating in real.. Lol

You'd have to have hundreds of nuclear bombs for that to happen, so, not going to happen, lol

[@sanjivinsmoke2719]

@ Well yeah but constant drilling and mining would eventually wear and tear the moon apart.. Especially the cracks which with the constant gravity of earth puling will make it expand more with force..

[@perfectlybalancedasallthin9319]

@@sanjivinsmoke2719 Yeah, that's nonsense. We've been constantly drilling on the Earth for centuries yet nothing bad has happened yet.

[@stupidvids0]

The Earth and the Moon are too totally different for you to make those assumptions

[@UmbraHand]

AnAccountOnKZbin No, its called physics. Snapping the moon in 2 is something a Kardashev III civilization could do, it one who isn’t even at one

[@daveotuwa5596]

So many robotic names are acronyms. A former Cartoon Network original entitled CODENAME: KIDS NEXT DOOR is a series in which all the episode names are acronyms. The animated series is crazy with acronyms in each and every episode.

[@shambi581]

Wait but mass mining on the moon could eventually lead to earth being inhabitable? Since the structure of the moon helps with the way water moves and our day and night system?

By the time enough mass is harvested from the moon to make a difference to the tides on Earth, humanity will be able stop and mine asteroids and other planets. It's literally not even an issue.

[@shambi581]

Christian B. Same was said for oil and coal, it doesn’t seem like that took very long before we started noticing some major impact. Who says the rare materials found from asteroid impacts won’t draw 3rd party’s to start mining enough?

[@carso1500]

@@shambi581 the moon has literaly almost no rare earth materials (most are blown away by solar wind) and no, the amount of resources you need to mine to make a diference on the density of a planetary object is orders of magnitude higher than what we are capable right now, and even with that the imoact would not be as big as you think it would (and at the point that it has an impact we would already be the masters of this planet we could probably do all of that ourselves)

[@Great_America]

So, some major issues with this concept. What happens when we begin to reduce the mass of the moon? It already is moving farther away from the Earth by 2.4 cm each year. Additionally, and possibly more concerning is how will all of these electronics operate in a hostile space environment? The moon has no protective atmosphere to shield against solar or cosmic radiation. Nor is there any protection against meteors (usually only micro meteorites are expected). Remember, when the moon missions were extremely short and there was no design intended for a longer duration visit on single missions. Granted, that was ~50 years ago. Anyways, some food for thought. I do believe we need to conduct space exploration, but we also have to be realistic about risk management and our overall expectations over a long period of time. This won’t happen overnight.

[@genijable]

What I am most concerned about is how the mining on the moon will change the moon. There is no notable atmospehre, so while mining you will create dust. And this dust is has very sharp edges. Also because of the low gravity it takes longer to settle. And I am wondering how much and how fast can you mine, without that becoming an issue. At what point will the dust that is created by mining cause a bigger problem?

[@tmvega8167]

I'm not a physicists so I could be wrong but I believe dust settles slowly on earth because of air friction. Just like the experiment where a rock and a feather take the same time to fall down in a vacuum dust would just fall down like any other rock. Also without air there is no wind to spread it around so transportation and control of said dust would be much easier than on earth

[@genijable]

@@tbird81 I do not understand what you mean. And maybe I am too much influenced by the sci fi I read. But if we look at the scale of mining we already do, why is it not plausible to ask the question when will the dust generation on the moon be an issue? How much do we have to mine for it to affect a certain area of the moon drastically? I believe that is one of the reasons why explosives aren't even a topic, but I do not know enough about mining in lowered gravity or mining in general.

[@Twist_UAP]

Taking hydrogen from earth is to expensive you should just mine it from the moon

[@johnvalerian8440]

Seems like an incredibly slow process.

[@wolfdenranjeet]

Ok great Please let us know where is MH370 on earth ?

[@TheFlatEarthChannelcom]

Love all the cgi. No real pics lmao. All fake ass shit. Come on bro. Stop the cgi

[@hootiegabriel9200]

I feel incredibly dumb now. Why didn’t I think of any of these stellar ideas 🤔😉

[@puffthecatpuff8931]

Couldn't we, in the long run, change the Moon's orbit, by taking mass off of it?

[@tomf3150]

PuffTheCat Puff Long story short : NO. If that was the case docking anything to the space station would change its orbit.

[@climatedeceptionnetwork4122]

Exciting!

[@fpshooterful]

9:44...... SOOO....this what seems to be a highly educated engineering guy said.... "HE THINKS" when the microwave was discovered during WWII? I mean i have no where CLOSE to the education like this guy does, but, even i knew that microwaves was discovered during WWII while they were messing around with radars.

[@polishherowitoldpilecki5521]

fpshooterful I’m positive it was I NBC ended in the 70s.

[@Dog-Girl-Defect]

Hello moonmen.

[@chapo335]

Very good information, just I knew that water bubbling from the battery back in the 90's when I was at school. When we try to make the moon more habitable like the Earth, wouldn't the people who deal with the case take-up little samples of grass with grass seeds with other seeds or pips and burry them allowing them to find the moon supply of water and the oxygen they will breath out will help form an ozone layer around the moon, what shall allow other humans to spend longer times on the moon

[@Clubparty98]

I'm pretty sure having a chocolate bar in your pocket will melt it regardless.

[@thegenerousdegenerate9395]

Pretty sure that dude made up half of that story.

[@carso1500]

@@thegenerousdegenerate9395 no it's 100% real, theres Google for something use it for something else than looking for porn

[@long-timelistenerfirst-t-us2yy]

*cool story bro ... except as it stands right now, what i saw right here is gonna get people killed :-\*

[@gsev38]

Steven Hyde would be talking about this in the circle

[@massimookissed1023]

_"It runs on water, man!"_

[@quad55555]

i'm currently 'in the circle'

[@kineticstar]

Looking at their experiments; I can't say I'm hopeful. The blower has an issue of no atmosphere on the moon so no air to blow and will need a tank of air to operate; so it has limited use. The lens needs a funneling waveguide to focus light properly if you want to work on more than a pea size area at a time. Also the moon has a 14 day (day night cycle) in which you have no sun to produce energy for oxygen seperation via regulith mining or electrolysis. I have more questions about the robotics but I am just astonished at the oversight of how the use of plastic 3D printed items like the wheels can survive on the moon. All that dust and powder is nothing more than shapened glass and rock shards and will cut through the plastics with ease. Meh... I guess it's true "common sense is not a common thing."

[@PinataOblongata]

You're not going to get massively expensive titanium wheels manufactured for your prototype just to see if the SHAPE works at propelling it through the regolith. Prototype first and THEN use the final materials with the right design. Use common sense :P

[@kineticstar]

@@PinataOblongata prototype? For what? How do you propose a production titanium on the moon? You belive it would be a regular shipment from the earth? Also if you think the wheel designs are unique to these projects you are wrong. NASA, Japanese Space Agency and the ESO have been publishing the reinventing of the wheel concepts for years. They did it for mars, a retun missions to the moon, and have even proposed a comet rover. So I will suggest you look into it if you are going to comment. :p

[@heyalexluu]

It’s 6 AM and I’m watching this. Worth it.

[@h7opolo]

8:55 captions have a typo: "then" should be "than."

[@ozzyfromspace]

Sure, let’s mine our only moon at scale because it worked so well on Earth 🤓

[@filonin2]

It did. It gave you everything you used to make that post. Also, the moon is a dead airless world with nothing to ruin.

[@ReddwarfIV]

Do you think that mining the moon is going to make it disappear or something?

[@ozzyfromspace]

@@ReddwarfIV not necessarily. In fact, I do electromagnetics research (propulsion stuff for an unlisted startup) and I'm an avid proponent of mining in space. All the building blocks of our young civilization reside therein. However, beyond serving as a proof of concept, mining our only moon at scale would be fairly shortsighted. My original post is a little snarky, I admit, but we really owe it to be thoughtful about the kind of space presence we develop in space. In the next several decades, space will become an economic Oasis of opportunity, it's no longer about asking whether such and such can be done, but rather whether or not we should. I might not have a vacuum-sealed argument about why not to mine the moon at scale other than the visceral awareness that it constitutes humanity's shared heritage and Earth's unwavering companion. There are so many viable asteroids just beyond Mars. Low hanging fruit can be deceptive. In the grand scheme of things, it's not sustainable. Going as far out as the asteroid belt may technically be harder but it's the kind of "long game" I'd wish for my great grandkids one day. Imperfect argument but what do you agree with? What parts don't make sense?

[@ozzyfromspace]

@@filonin2 you'd be surprised, buddy.

[@ReddwarfIV]

@@ozzyfromspace If it were a choice between the Moon and the Asteroids, I'd agree, we should go for the asteroids. But it isn't. We can do both, and lunar propellant production and spacecraft manufacture would help with mining the asteroids a lot. I can accept that we shouldn't deface it - no one wants to look up into the sky and see the Moon covered in pit mines, but that's only one side of the Moon and in any case, shaft mining exists.

[@winkipinky]

Yeah but how much dust do you need and how long will it take to get just 1 gallon of fuel??

[@incopol57]

Does not sound like a good energy balance otherwise why wouldn't we use such technologies to do this from earth's water to generate energy fuel. Where the energy to extract the fuels would come from except the fresnel mirror ?

[@massimookissed1023]

Down here we have a choice of energy sources, and it seems we like burning stuff. Up on the moon you'll only have solar or nuclear.

[@Vienna3080]

Lmao that controller looks like a Mad Catz Knock off controller you would give your little cousin when he comes over to play

[@xdevinaro62]

can we use electrolysis to make air and rocket fuel for mars ? with solar power for electricity

[@Xeno_Bardock]

Until mainstream scientists figure out how to create artificial gravity and use it for faster than light propulsion, space travel to another planet or solar system is hopeless. Using rocket tech would be crazy for long term space travel. Even using manned rocket tech to go to the moon is crazy enough. We need to let go of rocket tech and move on to figuring out superior ways of space travel if we are to become space faring civilivation.

[@didyasaysomethin2me]

That's exactly what I said, actually suggesting that they should probably just pack up and go home now if they can't think beyond that.

[@titochannel221]

La teoria es exselente costosa y pasada tienen perfecto projecto

[@ABC-xp8bd]

Is the moon moving relatively in a way that's not hard for the focusing of the lens?

[@broytennison8406]

What

[@loraxdavewalters2696]

They should use this for industrial scale desalination on Earth. Also for mineral processing on earth, to reduce cost by reducing fossil fuel requirements. Lasers for industrial temperature control and processing. Lasers can be shot from orbiting solar collection satellites.

[@entyropy3262]

You know they will use it to kill people instead, as always 😑

[@loraxdavewalters2696]

@Alshamari Baha2 there's plenty of options to remove salt from water. Don't stifle innovation! Earth's soil is composed of plenty of things that specific temperatures can extract. Why would you paint a broad brush of denial? Do you sell microporous membrane or something?

[@loraxdavewalters2696]

@@entyropy3262 Usually. That's probably why industrial lasers are not more common. People would do stupid things with them.

[@EN-ZHANRun]

大家冷靜點!!! 所謂的補師 就是給與最後一擊的人… 沒一刀收尾的補師，可不是好補師喔！

[@omsingharjit]

This is also a one of my ideas but for Mars instead moon ( ' we can put little factory on elements rich planets and can use their strong sunlight & deep temperature Difference as power source to do purification and and extraction of ors and minerals to make more products that can help to grow its own factory ) same way we can convert co2 on mars into oxygen and iron rust into iron

[@abrakadabra9033]

Keep taking it that moon ain't gonna light up the dark at night

[@mashiroinoue]

Better mine on asteroids than the moon.

[@myew]

Someone get that tech a better controller than the cheap Logitech F310. :

[@BearHeadedWerewolf]

This makes me so excited for the future!!!

[@InvokerGray]

We need to use melt the moon dust in to a landing pad, make a foundation with less dust for our huts.

[@SocksWithSandals]

Building habitats and fuel supplies robotically on the Moon will be our big ticket back there.

[@AaronSchwarz42]

Cool splitting water into hydrogen & oxygen // electricity used for that can also power fans & pumps & cryocoolers & controllers & electronics / electrolysis dope & at home can make HHO gas for cutting & welding & brazing & even powering ICE motors etc

[@JEFFLWALSH]

I WAS NOT AWARE OF MOON WATER?

[@TheFlatEarthChannelcom]

Jeffrey Walsh it’s all fake cgi shit. Sooo fake

[@PestOnYT]

Like your content. However, most of your latest vids's moderator voices are sounding very dull like you used a bad microphone or put a low-pass filter on it. Some voices are clear, other are not. That is a bit distracting from the content - which is great.

[@wolfdenranjeet]

Why we don't use this technique right now on earth on large scale Moon later please tell me something about MH370 ON EARTH

[@Redrabbit_studios]

Only problem i see with this method is, water on the moon in not a reusable resource. Once its gone.

[@DZARO]

This is a BS concept. Think of the long term material transfer. You keep taking stiff to earth, why? Thumbs down for these guys...

[@jvon3885]

Ok but there's an easier way. I mean seriously there are way better ways to do this. Why do humans have to always try and do things the hardest way? Is it just accolades? Probably and if we look at the two slit theory we see that even things are filmed they act different. Anyone can sound smart when on film.

[@transfertus]

We would destroy more the earth (remove our hydrogen !) to go to that dead place which is the moon? Keep your dreams for you, and let us live quietly ! Thanks :)

[@ladedalounge]

April 2021 here.....China is going to the moon with Russia and some Billionaires....was wondering what they were talking about with moon water.....

[@WTF_BBQ]

uhhh, why not just bring water and vaporize it into steam with a nuclear reactor as a propellant in space ??? WOuldn't be that easier? ........

[@MrHouse-jm1dv]

So anybody else remember the show futurama? At one point in one of the episodes professor mentions how before they used dark matter as fuel, they used moon water to power their ships. Sometimes fictional writers can predict the future in some weird ways like the Simpsons.