Inside The US Factory Making Ukraine’s Most Important Ammo

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Business Insider India

8 ай бұрын

The US has sent Ukraine millions of 155mm rounds since the war started, including cluster bombs. But there’s a global shortage of 155 shells, and some are afraid that the US is depleting its stockpile. We visited the Scranton Ammunition Plant to see how common shells are made.
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@cameronmoylan712
@cameronmoylan712 Ай бұрын
We have allowed the senseless demolition of hundreds of factories in the US that were capable of producing in the same manner of this one. Remaining plants, including those that are sitting idle and neglected, must be preserved at all cost.
@akiterentjeff5958
@akiterentjeff5958 4 ай бұрын
War started 2014, not 2022.
@carlthor91
@carlthor91 4 ай бұрын
Wagner invasion 2014. Shooting war involving artillery 2022.
@LaVictoireEstLaVie
@LaVictoireEstLaVie 4 ай бұрын
@@carlthor91 US coup in 2014 and the Russian response followed.
@fathomwild2224
@fathomwild2224 3 ай бұрын
lol ok tankie@@LaVictoireEstLaVie
@LaVictoireEstLaVie
@LaVictoireEstLaVie 3 ай бұрын
lol ok neocon/neolib regime lover@@fathomwild2224
@andrewadams6905
@andrewadams6905 3 ай бұрын
@@LaVictoireEstLaVie Ivan, turn your Russian Zombie TV off, open dictionary and learn what “coup” means. Coup was in Russia when tanks were shooting at parliament building in 1993. Ukrainian parliament stayed in power including president’s own party, and scheduled new elections after traitor president fled to Russia.
@donaldhollingsworth3875
@donaldhollingsworth3875 4 ай бұрын
When I was in the Marine Corps, we were shooting 155mm & 203mm rounds & powder which was made during the 1960's for the 155mm & 1950's for the M203mm rounds. It was a very sad day when the Pentagon decided to retire the M110 8" self propelled howitzers, which a lot of the Marines, including myself, loved. We could move all over the battlefield & fire from a static site or we could roam all over & fire from slap shot positions. These howitzers were capable of firing a RAP round 30KM inside of a garbage can. That was done by the precision sights. That kind of precision has not been able to be achieved even with the M777 155mm RAP round. Also the 8" howitzers were capable of firing nuclear rounds. I know this to be a fact since I went through a class at Norfolk Naval base on how to arm & disarm a nuclear artillery round.
@anthony9thompson
@anthony9thompson 4 ай бұрын
Hit a garbage can from 30km. What were you smoking
@erikvanshier4138
@erikvanshier4138 4 ай бұрын
M110 8 did not have much protection for the crew !?
@donaldhollingsworth3875
@donaldhollingsworth3875 4 ай бұрын
That is true. The only howitzer which provides some protection for the crew is the M109 if I remember correctly.
@donaldhollingsworth3875
@donaldhollingsworth3875 3 ай бұрын
The sights on the 8" howitzer were made like a Swiss watch. They were extremely accurate. You sound like a Army puke who doesn't know which end of a rifle to point at the enemy. Semper Fi !
@martinwinther6013
@martinwinther6013 3 ай бұрын
@@donaldhollingsworth3875 what? Have you looked at the definition of what a howitzer is?
@CONNELL19511216
@CONNELL19511216 4 ай бұрын
Artillery fires shells - not bullets. Being 'shot at' by artillery is referred to as being shelled.
@thor.halsli
@thor.halsli 4 ай бұрын
He called them rounds, witch they are, and compared them to giant bullets, witch is a fair comparison for civilians. Nowhere does he says they are actually bullets.
@CONNELL19511216
@CONNELL19511216 2 ай бұрын
@@thor.halsli Some 'civilians' like to know and use the appropriate terminology.
@user-dk8vu4pi1c
@user-dk8vu4pi1c 23 күн бұрын
I live in Scranton, it makes me proud!
@user-ph5ff3mg2o
@user-ph5ff3mg2o 21 күн бұрын
Чим? Америка дає дуже мало зброї.
@alphazero6571
@alphazero6571 21 күн бұрын
lets give russia what they want.. alot of lead from the sky.
@johnwilsdon5456
@johnwilsdon5456 21 күн бұрын
It would make you prouder if you could get the government to send them to Ukraine!!
@karlheinzvonkroemann2217
@karlheinzvonkroemann2217 20 күн бұрын
@@johnwilsdon5456 Hardly!
@steelcitytv
@steelcitytv 16 күн бұрын
Hey how's it feel to be in your country living bad when I can come there with 100 USD and pretty much s*** on and get whatever I want over there because it's like worth $10,000 there​@@user-ph5ff3mg2o
@bomaite1
@bomaite1 3 ай бұрын
We spend nearly a trillion dollars a year on our military. Are you telling me that we can't afford this? We have all sorts of super expensive gadgets that may or may not be used. This is something we definitely need right now, and will need in the future as well. Damn the cost. How much does one F35 cost?
@jackdbur
@jackdbur 3 ай бұрын
The US military sold off ammunition production to Corporate Enterprise and therefore the US military has just that 1 antiquated production line! It was capable of producing the few rounds associated with gunnery training and a little more!
@johnwilsdon5456
@johnwilsdon5456 21 күн бұрын
You have to understand that politics is in the military too. A good look at where money is spent would show where a lot of money could be diverted. But it will never happen with the current make up of government and the military.
@jackdbur
@jackdbur 21 күн бұрын
Corporations lobbied that they could be more efficient than government factories & the government sold them the factories without strict contracts that demanded fast ramp up to a conflict levels of production so after decades of letting mothballed facilities decay they deemed them unviable for reuse and demolished them then sold off the land ! The moral is writing solid contacts and never let the land out of DoD control ! If you give a Corporation a single opening they will screw you!
@lincolnkarkari3210
@lincolnkarkari3210 8 ай бұрын
the us is not burning thru their supplies, rather they should ramp up the production lines that means employment for all. do not kid the world with this rhetoric. increase to war footing of 37000 a month
@jpmcft3194
@jpmcft3194 7 ай бұрын
That number is expected to rise to somewhere between 50,000-60,000 next year.
@SubvertTheState
@SubvertTheState 5 ай бұрын
@jpmcft3194 Russia is producing 140,000 155mm Field Artillery Shells per month. That's more Rounds than NATO is expected to produce AFTER their planned production increases in 2025. There's no way that NATO can send all of their 155mm to Ukraine and even come close to Russia's numbers.
@inoculateinoculate9486
@inoculateinoculate9486 5 ай бұрын
Russia *claims* they are producing that many rounds. There is zero chance that an outside investigator or film crew could tour inside their facilities to verify such obvious propaganda. If Russia were infact out producing NATO and the US on artillery shells, the battle lines would not be frozen as they are.
@Walterwaltraud
@Walterwaltraud 5 ай бұрын
@@SubvertTheState 152. I'd be surprised if they did 155...
@john_in_phoenix
@john_in_phoenix 5 ай бұрын
The US signed contracts in November 2022 to expand 155mm ammunition production. Goal was approximately 80,000/month in 2025. Latest published figures indicate 6 months ahead of schedule and 100,000 rounds per month by 2025. Still waiting for the EU to sign contracts for the billion euros already allocated to increase production.
@MAGAman-uy7wh
@MAGAman-uy7wh 4 ай бұрын
34 nations manufacture 155mm rounds. The US manufactures one half of Ukraine's daily usage on a monthly basis. The other 33 nations produce a sufficient number collectively. Apply supply and demand rules and there is a LOT of money to be made. If the US ramps up production and adds another facility or two, we can provide enough to keep our supply at safe levels.
@russellhammond371
@russellhammond371 3 ай бұрын
True and already happening, the Army recently doubled it's production and will add more facilities in 2024.
@azanudniy
@azanudniy 3 ай бұрын
You can't. To paraphrase John McCain, you are a money printer pretending to be a country.
@mandarinandthetenrings2201
@mandarinandthetenrings2201 3 ай бұрын
No this what you don't understand it a "Money losing" proposition. Why? Your not taking into account decades where the factory only made a bare minimum of shells. Why? Because your nation deem it necessary not to lose the knowledge and technology. But your taxpayers had to pay for all the years and years when the didn't use the ammunition.
@karlheinzvonkroemann2217
@karlheinzvonkroemann2217 3 ай бұрын
The USA isn't even close to being able to manufacture a small fraction of what they need. You're numbers are wishful think at best. We only have one factory in Pa that makes 155mm Howitzer shells. The rest of Ukraines needs are comming from countries around the world whose stocks we are promising to eventually replenish. There is a reason why they are constantly calling for ammo. Of course then there's Israel and their Gaza War. They are always priority number ONE for the US government. The same with Patriot missles. Lockheed Martin is the manufacturer and only makes 400/year. They've promised that they will increase production to 650 year in 2026. The usual expenditure is 2 missiles fired at each incoming target. Last year the Russians fired 4000 rockets and missles of every flavor into Ukraine. Do the math! That war is lost.
@russellhammond371
@russellhammond371 3 ай бұрын
@@karlheinzvonkroemann2217 Your "math" doesn't include which rockets are intercepted by patriot missiles and which aren't. You also speak as if the patriot system is the only defense against rockets in general.
@fathomwild2224
@fathomwild2224 3 ай бұрын
Anyone wild enough to worry about US stockpiles of any kind of weaponry, has apparently never paid taxes in the US, or paid attention to the funding of our military industrial complex.
@Gdb987
@Gdb987 3 ай бұрын
Wonder how much of tht is stolen.. that’s why when auditing they can never come up with all that money spent on “military”
@clacicle
@clacicle Ай бұрын
Well, I guess we can count corporate America in that group since most major corporations barely pay any taxes if any.
@iamgogi
@iamgogi 22 күн бұрын
They need to produce 24,000 a day... not monthly
@lytskij
@lytskij 4 ай бұрын
That’s a good opportunity for US steel industry to grow up and new jobs!
@mutexin
@mutexin 4 ай бұрын
Finally US is making North Korea a rich industrial country.
@gregorybond2859
@gregorybond2859 4 ай бұрын
@@mutexin Finally Russia is making North Korea a rich industrial country.
@johnwilsdon5456
@johnwilsdon5456 21 күн бұрын
The number of opportunities of the U.S. steel industry is incredible. It makes one wonder what is going on? Recycling steel in the U.S. can sustain the operation - why are questions not being asked? You will hear all of the stuff like - it takes time to refurbish and old facility, we don't have the chemicals for explosives, we............ If the US were attacked, watch how fast the stuff gets activated and found. Such a sorry story.
@zedeyejoe
@zedeyejoe 4 ай бұрын
Ukraine also needs a lot of 152mm and 122mm rounds (Russian calibre) as that is what the majority of their artillery is. Poland/Bulgaria supplies it.
@fathomwild2224
@fathomwild2224 3 ай бұрын
Poland is pretty amazing as an ally now.
@markbrisec3972
@markbrisec3972 Ай бұрын
Yes, but not a single NATO or allied country produces 152mm rounds... These East European nations scavanged their stockpiles that were left from the old days, but there are no more active 152mm round production lines in Poland/Bulgaria, Slovenia, Slovakia, Croatia, Macedonia, Hungary, Latvia, etc.... Only nations that are producing these caliber shells are Russia, China and North Korea, and I doubt we can buy some for Ukraine from them.
@zedeyejoe
@zedeyejoe Ай бұрын
@@markbrisec3972 Wrong. All the countries mentioned are EU members and are producing Russian calibre ammunition for Ukraine, which of course is the majority of Ukraines artillery. Try looking up Mesko SA for its artillery shell ranges (both 122mm and 152mm are available). Looks like Estonia is also going to set up ammunition production. Of course China, North Korea, Egypt and other countries world-wide manufacture Russian calibre artillery shells. Just a question of who will sell to Ukraine. PS lets not forget India, they also have a big weapons industry. Have been buying and manufacturing T72 tanks, they could help Russia or Ukraine.
@user-gl1tc7wi8g
@user-gl1tc7wi8g Ай бұрын
@@markbrisec3972 The whole East European Nation ? They all support Russia against NAZI Ukraine and NAZI Genocide west !!! Puppet goverment is not what people want.
@pahtar7189
@pahtar7189 10 күн бұрын
Ukraine had a lot of 152mm and 122mm artillery, but after firing a certain number of times the barrel needs to be replaced, and they'll have difficulty finding those. So they just take those out of service and provide the 152/122 shells to the guns with life in their barrels. New guns coming in are 155, so the new shells fit them, and replacement barrels too.
@charlesrichardson8635
@charlesrichardson8635 3 ай бұрын
Romania has a huge capacity for the 122 mm & 152 mm shells and even has been replacing barrels for the Soviet artillery.
@mandarinandthetenrings2201
@mandarinandthetenrings2201 3 ай бұрын
No we don't want Romania to deplete their stock pile. Why? Because the aim of the Russians was not just to take over Ukraine. It was take over both Poland and Romania and take the gap that leads into Russia. Should Ukraine fail you will be fighting for you freedom.
@petermclelland278
@petermclelland278 8 ай бұрын
Better start working overtime!
@Z_1917
@Z_1917 8 ай бұрын
Better start working till these workers drop dead
@edwinconcepcion3129
@edwinconcepcion3129 8 ай бұрын
Better to stop fueling the war
@dfpolitowski2
@dfpolitowski2 3 ай бұрын
We need to build another factory underground In the old coal mines of PA with robots and modern tech.
@montanabigbeer650
@montanabigbeer650 3 ай бұрын
Any one know how many arty factory's Us and europe have up and running and possible for restore and get operational?
@williamwaugh4272
@williamwaugh4272 26 күн бұрын
Boing has a huge empty factory in Long Beach, Ca. Use it to make 155 shells
@johnwilsdon5456
@johnwilsdon5456 21 күн бұрын
Yep. And there are others around the country.
@joedavis7258
@joedavis7258 5 күн бұрын
BOEING
@prototyp3strik3r
@prototyp3strik3r 2 ай бұрын
thanks for that informations!
@mikegilbertblues
@mikegilbertblues 19 күн бұрын
Very informative film. Thank you.
@ronaldmead7643
@ronaldmead7643 3 ай бұрын
keep up the good work
@bomaite1
@bomaite1 3 ай бұрын
What about mortars?
@lewcrowley3710
@lewcrowley3710 Ай бұрын
mortar shells do not have to be as strong since they are shorter ranged. They could be more easily made if a cast method was used instead of forging. 120 mm mortars are deadly.
@user-ij5dt9of7v
@user-ij5dt9of7v 4 ай бұрын
The aid is not pallets of cash. It’s in the form of military equipment, assigned a value, that is donated,”. “That equipment is usually older and would be replaced in the next few years anyway, at a cost. I’m sure she doesn’t understand this.” Still, the largest bucket of overall U.S. aid committed to Ukraine - more than $46 billion, is military support in the form of equipment not cash !! The military equipment has been pulled directly from existing U.S. military SURPLUS inventory and other parts of the funding has also been used to purchase new weapons from US industrial complex industry and american manufacturers; this supports local American communities in states (over 33 states ) that produce weapon's (so the money doesn't go into the pockets of Zelensky and fiends thats a myth pumped out by Russian propaganda and regurgitated by "pathetic tools" of the kremlin like Tucker Carlsen ) Members of Congress have questioned how closely the U.S. is tracking its aid to Ukraine to ensure that it is not subject to fraud or ending up in the wrong hands. The Pentagon’s inspector general told lawmakers at a hearing, that his office has found no evidence of such corruption or wrongdoing, but cautioned that investigations are only in their early stages. Despite claims to the contrary, the United States is not sending bags of unaccounted-for cash to Ukraine. Most US contributions go to military aid, including weapons and equipment made by American defense contractors who employ communities across the country. When the United States spends money to purchase military equipment as part of an international aid package, the materiel may go overseas, but the money and jobs stay in America. Similarly, appropriations for the US Foreign Military Financing program provide incentives for NATO allies and partners to secure US-made capabilities. This translates to more business for US companies and sustained employment for rural communities in which they operate. For instance, Lockheed Martin, maker of the HIMARS-which has been central to Ukraine’s counteroffensive-plans to increase its Camden, Arkansas facility’s workforce by 20%, and recently announced increased profit projections through the end of the year. Similarly, General Dynamics has committed to building new production facilities in Mesquite, Texas, bringing money and jobs to the region. Change like this takes place only when the Pentagon sends strong and stable market signals to the defense industry, giving it the confidence to expand and hire. In short, the numbers suggest that continued support for Ukraine is a win-win for Ukrainians and the American people. The United States can continue to defend stability and democratic governance across the globe, while at the same time boosting American industrial output and advancing US economic interests.
@prodigalpriest
@prodigalpriest 2 ай бұрын
I'm just having trouble understanding why our Government is supporting a far right fascist dictatorship like Zelensky's, who has been compared to Hitler in the past? Didn't we shut down the last Fascist Empires that we had to deal with eighty or so years ago? Now history is repeating itself and this time we AREN'T on the right side!
@karlheinzvonkroemann2217
@karlheinzvonkroemann2217 2 ай бұрын
Do you work for the State Department, the Pentagon or both?
@user-ij5dt9of7v
@user-ij5dt9of7v 2 ай бұрын
@@karlheinzvonkroemann2217 Dose my english seam to be hat good Hhaaha ? I am Norwegian that have lived in Ukriane and studied history of Eastern europe and political science when I was at university ; But thanks for the compliment hahahah
@aldunlop4622
@aldunlop4622 24 күн бұрын
@@user-ij5dt9of7v Everything you said is true, and I think more Americans, especially some of these Republic guys who are blocking aid, need to be a bit more truthful. They KNOW most of the money is being spent IN the us in the form of American JOBS. They are using Ukraine as a political football, which is despicable.
@DjWesRolan
@DjWesRolan 3 ай бұрын
George your grandma saw everything and she is definitely proud of you 👍
@jackdbur
@jackdbur 3 ай бұрын
The USA had several mothballed plants that were larger. When production was sold off to Corporate Enterprise those plants were deemed to be too old and they were scrapped and their land was sold off including the fields of storage bunkers. With only a few thousand rounds required to be produced per month Corporate Masters deemed that building a modern production facility would not be a good financial decision. So America has ONE antiquated production line ! This is the problem of just selling production to Corporate Entities without strong binding contracts that demand that production capacity must be able to be brought up to X in 30, 60, 90 days that there must be 2 separated production facilities. Imagine if someone really wanted to hurt that production.
@mandarinandthetenrings2201
@mandarinandthetenrings2201 3 ай бұрын
Off course Jack, Just remember your tax payer has to pay for years and years when the planet really didn't have to make ammunition for any wars. The United States, and France were one of the few countries that said we will tax our people to maintain this knowledge and technology just in case we need it. The Pentagon anticipated wars like we see in the "Red Sea" so we started building a fleet of "Aircraft Carriers" to deal with "Rogue Nations" like we see in the Houthi in Yemen.
@wnight55
@wnight55 3 ай бұрын
Love You Brother
@paulmanoli5175
@paulmanoli5175 2 ай бұрын
The sixteen inch rifle is the weapon of choice. The projectile weighs 1000 kilograms ,2200 pounds, with a range of twenty six miles propelled by just six bags of powder.
@frankmontez6853
@frankmontez6853 10 күн бұрын
Looks like they keep tip fuses very separate from the shells for safety sakes . The fuses are only added on to the shells when they’re about to fired? I suppose they can still explode in severe situations like intense fire 🔥? But without fuses attached is less likely?
@TheTruthSeeker756
@TheTruthSeeker756 4 ай бұрын
They need to build at least one more of these factories in the US ASAP!
@zedeyejoe
@zedeyejoe 4 ай бұрын
USA is building 4 more ammunition plants. Europe is also building more ammunition plants.
@stockholm3976
@stockholm3976 4 ай бұрын
Production 0:22 Scranton Ammunition Plant: less than 400 shells/day. 2:39 USA totally, before 2022: 400 shells/day. Today 800 /day. 5:50 Feb 2022 - Aug 2023 (540 days) USA have sent 2 million = 3.700/day 6:46 By 2028 USA want to make 2.800/day Europe have 4 factories and produce 1.100/day (Sweden 1 factory, 200/day) At summer 2022 Ruzzia used estimated 50.000 shells/day and Ukraine 5.000. Since Jan 2023 it's about equal 5.000/day. Latest update Feb 2024: Russia 10.000/day, Ukraine 2.000/day.
@joelee5239
@joelee5239 3 ай бұрын
Russian numbers are all different caliber shells, including much smaller ones, so not comparing apples to apple. South Korea can produce 80k of 155mm shells per month and close to 1 million per year already. They supposedly have stockpile of over 14 million shells in reserve to feed their 5,600 artillery guns. Let's ramp up production from all of the allies and US can get more than the 800k that they bought from them so far to send to Ukraine through secret channels.
@jackdbur
@jackdbur 3 ай бұрын
South Korea has a large 155mm production capacity and a vast stockpile.
@dernadaarmando2948
@dernadaarmando2948 2 ай бұрын
Can i ask, how much cost different between 105 vs 155mm shell without fuse
@jackdbur
@jackdbur 2 ай бұрын
@@dernadaarmando2948 105mm is less than 1/2 the range of 155mm and far less effective against any armoured vehicles!
@cpcattin
@cpcattin 21 күн бұрын
The term “aircraft” is at once singular and plural. In the UK they interchangeably use both aircraft or aircrafts. Americans dictionaries only list “aircrafts”with an asterisk.
@shawnryan2197
@shawnryan2197 14 күн бұрын
Rheinmettal also makes 155ml shells. They're opening factories in Germany, Lithuania and Ukraine. It's big business.
@TheMilpitasguy
@TheMilpitasguy 5 күн бұрын
Nammo also produces 155 shells in Sweden, going at full capacity.
@shawnryan2197
@shawnryan2197 3 күн бұрын
@@TheMilpitasguy Rheinmettal might be a good compliment to invest in.
@shawnryan2197
@shawnryan2197 3 күн бұрын
@@TheMilpitasguy Do you live in Sweden?
@user-js8lu6od9t
@user-js8lu6od9t 8 ай бұрын
Sacrée Usine indispensable pour fabriquer des Obus
@MO-to2dc
@MO-to2dc 2 ай бұрын
Great 🙏
@Dualismoassoluto
@Dualismoassoluto 11 күн бұрын
Impressive.
@user-ij5dt9of7v
@user-ij5dt9of7v 4 ай бұрын
We need to understand the truth and facts here and that is ; That the military aid amounts that are cited too Ukraine are not direct cash payments , but the estimated value of unused surplus weapons with expiring shelf lives, along with technical training, education and other services. (so those weapons will have been sent for destruction anyway as the shelf lives of those weapons are going out of date ) “USA is not giving cash to Ukraine; US are adding up the value of the military support that US. are providing to Ukraine,” “This is equipment and technicians, training, whatever it is, USA adds up that value, and that’s the dollar amount that US is quoting . It’s essential services the the US are providing to Ukraine.” Based on the form of aid given to Ukraine, EVERYONE can and should dismissed concerns about corruption sometimes cited by Western critics, and pro Russians bloggers!!!!! As the opportunity for corruption in this type of aid and market is extremely low compared to just giving money. So, there should be a lot more reassurance to the American people.”
@jonatikoisuva2695
@jonatikoisuva2695 3 ай бұрын
We all know that the US isn't giving Ukraine direct cash....no country is that stupid. And for your information most of America's old and unused ammunition were used in past wars especially since they spent trillions of dollars on Iraq and Afghaninstan war. So their ammunition stockpile is depleting every single time they send it to Ukraine. And if the Taiwan war breaks out, the US will have to choose which one to fund especially when they are dealing with the Houthis and Israel at the moment. So pretty much The US is fcked and should have just mind their own business 🫢
@HarrisonHollers
@HarrisonHollers 3 ай бұрын
@@jonatikoisuva2695uh voters from the Right think Biden is writing a check and delivering the rest in cash briefcases. Not the brightest of folks!
@bmay8818
@bmay8818 3 ай бұрын
​@@jonatikoisuva2695 The US is fine. Perhaps you forget that we have a disgustingly enormously far too huge military. One way to help prevent a war over Taiwan is to help Ukraine, because it sends the message that such aggression isn't tolerated.
@jonatikoisuva2695
@jonatikoisuva2695 3 ай бұрын
@@bmay8818 You didnt prevent shxt ? 🤣 Incase you've been living under a rock., the world is at chaos in this very moment 🫣 And for your information, it doesnt matter how big or expensive your military is...all that is useless in Nuclear War 🙄
@jonatikoisuva2695
@jonatikoisuva2695 3 ай бұрын
@@bmay8818 And helping Ukraine will never stop China from Attacking Taiwan. Taiwan is a freaking Island 🤦 you cannot just send Ammunition and Weapons through Train nor plane or even Boat....so resupplying the Island is impossible unless you have a portal or somehow 🫢🫣
@user-ip7gd7vz1q
@user-ip7gd7vz1q 3 ай бұрын
We should still be making these shells even when we're not at war this should be going around the clock no matter what so what we should be worried about is running out of space for these shells not running out of shells/weapons these assembly lines for these shells should never stop and just be like the Energizer bunny and keep going and going and going and going.......................................,....................................................
@paulvarn4712
@paulvarn4712 4 ай бұрын
When "experts" start making proclamations I stop listening.
@plevalnatebya
@plevalnatebya 4 ай бұрын
0:26 11 000 per month. Hehehh, the Russians in the beginning of the offensive used to use 10-12k shells per day. Nowadays they use 7-8k per day.
@zedeyejoe
@zedeyejoe 4 ай бұрын
@@dearmas9068 Well Russia has found a source of supply, North Korea. Only problem, North Korean ammunition is rubbish.
@zedeyejoe
@zedeyejoe 4 ай бұрын
@@dearmas9068 Real life, cannot be argued with. And Russian artillery crews are deeply unhappy with the quality North Korean ammunition.
@karlheinzvonkroemann2217
@karlheinzvonkroemann2217 3 ай бұрын
We want to believe that the Russians are stupid...
@Shadow-1949
@Shadow-1949 2 ай бұрын
The way it was done and in pretty sure it’s same ., Government branch puts out a request for bids ! The docs would say what they want and when they want it . America can make almost anything . What they want and when . The price will reflect what it would take to meet the bid ! There are several ways to really get it going that I’d rather not share but I got many years under my belt dealing with government contracts . When they are expedited you’d be amazed at what they can do ! The bid package is very important so results are what’s needed .
@johnhopkins6260
@johnhopkins6260 Ай бұрын
U.S. 155 artillery "shortages" (a very relative term) can be readily compensated for with the vast array of American "tools of the trade" (aka "Arsenal Of Democracy"). While not discounting the importance of 155-based artillery, the U.S. has not placed all eggs in one basket; Consider the adaptations made in response to the Fulda Gap conundrum... as well as the appearance of P-51s toward the end of Battle of The Bulge. Noteworthy is that the Bradley was the number one destroyer of Russian armor during both G.W. Bush wars (vs. M-1s). A-10, F-15, AC-130, Naval forces kill ratios, etc. etc. the list - and reach - is nearly endless, if not globally all-encompassing. U.S. "running shy" on 155s? C'mon, let's take a look in my toolbox...
@skirmishgaming7424
@skirmishgaming7424 3 ай бұрын
Give Ukraine what they need to win. They are fighting for all Western democracies. God bless them.
@bisleyblackhawk1288
@bisleyblackhawk1288 3 ай бұрын
Screw the War Pig Biden administration!
@user-ph5ff3mg2o
@user-ph5ff3mg2o 21 күн бұрын
Дякую за розуміння!
@Shadow-1949
@Shadow-1949 2 ай бұрын
I have a shell that was sitting in my garage for 20 years. It’s not live nor a 155 They had them on eBay !
@MrMAC8964
@MrMAC8964 13 күн бұрын
There`s nobody like the USA for picking up the pace .....NOBODY !
@tombache3426
@tombache3426 18 күн бұрын
Is there a technical reason they can’t reload the casings like they do with small caliber ammunition?
@holgernarrog962
@holgernarrog962 5 ай бұрын
The numbers shows the detoriation of the US industrial base. The USA makes 24000 155mm shells/month. In ww2 the USA produced > 10 million artillery shells/month. Even if the motivation is not the same the difference is significant.
@inoculateinoculate9486
@inoculateinoculate9486 5 ай бұрын
The US no longer fights trench warfare with artillery. The current capacity matches current US military doctrine and tactics. It would be seen as a waste to have been mass manufacturing and stockpiling millions of artillery shells after the fall of the Soviet Union, especially since explosives do have a shelf life.
@azanudniy
@azanudniy 4 ай бұрын
US never had that shell production capability. It was not even close to Germany/USSR production because it had no need to. US never has army that size
@holgernarrog962
@holgernarrog962 4 ай бұрын
@@azanudniy My data is taken from "Official Munitions Production of the United States, By Month, July1, 1940 - August 31, 1945" WAR PRODUCTION BOARD J. A. Krug,Chairman Program and Statistics Bureau Bertrand Fox, Director The US Army had fielded 91 Divisions in ww2. It adds the Marines Division. This is less than the 326 Divisions the Wehrmacht fielded. (Many were only remainders, training divisions...) But the USA Divisions were x-fold better equipped with ammo. Plenty of US produced ammo was given to its allies by Lend&Lease.
@azanudniy
@azanudniy 4 ай бұрын
@@holgernarrog962 Oh thanks for the link! On page 169 there are statistics on 155mm ammunition. At its maximum in 1945, it was 400 thousand per month. 7 million for the entire war, not 10 million per month.
@holgernarrog962
@holgernarrog962 4 ай бұрын
@@azanudniy In ww2 105mm was the main artillery ammo. I added all artillery ammo. Today 155mm is the standard. That`s why I compared the whole artillery ammo with the 155mm today. In the earlier pages artillery ammo is given by tons at the end by pieces. It includes as well the Canadian production.
@Igor-xl4wz
@Igor-xl4wz 4 ай бұрын
6:56 Interesting point to pause. You see a board above the worker indicating how 'efficient' they are in the artillery shell factory. Target: 218 Actual: 236 Efficiency: 108.1%
@machdaddy6451
@machdaddy6451 3 ай бұрын
IMO The fact that Russia couldn't achieve air dominance is just shows how down right pathetic their airforce is!
@papparocket
@papparocket 3 ай бұрын
The answer to the shortage of shells might not be more shells, but far fewer smart shells. The need for so many shells is in large part because the vast majority being fired are unguided and many of the targets are small like a vehicle hiding in the trees or a specific house being used as a command and control center. Because unguided shells like these M795s can't correct any errors after it is fired, only 50% of them lands inside a circle 280 meters across at maximum range. And if the center of that circle is say 100 meters away from the target nearly all of the shells will land off to one side. And so several rounds have to be fired to check the aim and then after any corrections to the aim are made it still requires potentially dozens additional rounds to be fired before one lands close enough to destroy an armored vehicle, or the house. Guided shells like the M982 Excalibur use GPS to calculate any errors in their flight path _after_ they are fired and adjustment fins to steer it back on course. As a result the very first Excalibur round fired has a 50% chance of landing within 4 meters of an aim point, and that aim point has been shifted to be exactly the coordinates of the target. Thus it often takes only 1 or perhaps 2 of these rounds to destroy the target. But at $100,000 each, this type of round can't be used on every target. But the Excalibur isn't the only choice. There are precision guidance kits (PGKs) like the US M1195 that only costs about $6500 each. These PGKs screws into the nose of an $800 M795 in place of the standard fuse, and turns it into a precision guided munition with very nearly the same accuracy as the Excalibur. Guided by a PGK, the very first M795s fired can be guided to impact within less than 10 meters of the target. Field test have shown an even small circle, with one firing 9 shells and all of them landed within 3 meters of the target. Two of the shells in that test went right through the roof of the junk SUV being used as a target. (BTW, those shells didn't have any explosive in them or that SUV would have been a smoking ruin after the first shell landed just 1 meter away) As a result just one or two PGK tipped shells can accomplish what would require 15 or more unguided shells, then the cost is roughly the same when looking at just the cost of the shells and PGKs. But the total cost includes far more than just the shells. There is the cost of shipping nearly 10 times more shells from the US to Ukraine, the large warehouses to store that many shells (which make really juicy targets), the cost and risk to personnel and materials to move that huge stream of shells up to the frontlines. Plus artillery barrels can only fire 1000 or so rounds before having to be replaced. And if the enemy can get within range of the only road into an area, the number of shells that make it through can be greatly reduced. That small number might not be able to push back the enemy if they were dumb shells and dozens had to be fired at every target. The area might then have to be abandoned or troops are encircled and killed or captured if they can't retreat. But that same small number, if they were smart rounds, might be sufficient to hold the ground. And lastly there is the cost of not being able to destroy a target because they know that they are being targeted with the first couple of ranging rounds and so a vehicle can move (and if artillery has a hard time hitting a small stationary target, it has an almost impossible time hitting a moving one), or the senior officers with very unique skills and capabilities can retreat into an armored bunker to live to effectively command armies another day. I'm not saying we shouldn't be putting a lot of effort into making more 155mm shells. What I am saying is that we should be putting even more effort in making PGKs so that as many of those shells as physically possible can be smart shells rather than dumb ones.
@siilnr1250
@siilnr1250 3 ай бұрын
smart shells do not remove the need of standard and cluster shells, but yes, in some instances smart could be a solution if it wasn't for so greedy US military industry that asks too much money per such shell
@lewcrowley3710
@lewcrowley3710 Ай бұрын
280 meters? LOL, you have a source? Dispersion is usually an oval, not a circle.
@jozsiolah1435
@jozsiolah1435 3 ай бұрын
It’s amazing, how it disappears when it is fired. When fired, the bullet makes a unique sound, as the disappearance happens. The sound of the cannon arrives few sec later. Cannons use suppressor.
@costcontrolteam2618
@costcontrolteam2618 18 күн бұрын
If we want more just have to add a second shift and build a second factory.
@unclebriskets
@unclebriskets 2 ай бұрын
I never thought of Ukraine as an our alli
@aldunlop4622
@aldunlop4622 24 күн бұрын
The enemy of my enemy is my friend...
@coxhoe789
@coxhoe789 21 күн бұрын
god bless america
@travelinman70
@travelinman70 3 ай бұрын
155mm are fired from cannons. cannons are not mortors. cannons are not rockets. cannons are cannons. basically the opposite of the 'facts' presented here. Cannon is like a big gun, with a rear breech that opens to accept the round and explosive charge. mortors are tubes with one end sealed to include an ignition pin inside the tube. the mortor shell includes the round and explosive charge. drop the shell into the tube so it falls down to the inition pin. Some cannons fire shells (round and explosive charge packaged into a shell casing to hold it together). but they are loaded from the breech, not dropped down the barrel.
@Shadow-1949
@Shadow-1949 2 ай бұрын
There’s likely 2000 plus places that could make shells given 3 months or less to make the tooling. . I can think of 3 that I worked with over the years. Right now they said the price has gone from $2000 Too $8000 each Only thing stopping companies is orders ! Can’t make them if you don’t have an order large enough to make it profitable or at least assured no loss , If an order was placed for 10 million or 100 million . There would be shells being made in several different places and just tell me how many you want per month ! It’s one thing to place an order for 100 million and another that says 100 million but want 2 million per month ! Can do it but it will start with whatever production is now and production will go up each month until your making 1 1/2 million per month . Can make all you want plus some !
@charliejohnston1978
@charliejohnston1978 19 күн бұрын
After seeing all the 1000s of holes in every 10 acre field, it looks like some soldier is not aiming very well, just pulling the trigger and reloading. The best weapon is not the $800 dollar 155 mm shell, but the cheaper $300 USD drone. Sometimes it takes 4 or 5 shots of 155 mm shells to take out one T72 tank, but one or two cheaper drones can do it effortlessly. How about ramping up the drone production. It take 10 men to man a 155mm gun, but only one drone operator and one loader for a drone to do the same job.
@allenseeallendo5844
@allenseeallendo5844 2 ай бұрын
Why are you guys heating and pressing one billet at a time? What’s stopping you from making an arm that grabs two at a time and a press to do 2 at a time? This just seems painfully slow.
@aldunlop4622
@aldunlop4622 24 күн бұрын
I'm sure they're not doing it this way just to be annoying.
@victorauka365
@victorauka365 15 күн бұрын
America military industrial complex is unmatched
@anthonydebski5814
@anthonydebski5814 22 күн бұрын
Yup....and the MONEY spent, goes to Workers, materials etc, the PRODUCT sent to Ukraine, preserving their FREEDOM, the money the Workers get is SPENT in America, goes round & round, NO waste...the US Economy enlivened, Ukraine Protected!!
@lewcrowley3710
@lewcrowley3710 21 күн бұрын
And then the sheeple get taxed to pay the interest on the debt. Nothing is free. JoeBama even buys your vote with YOUR money. Suckers!
@brianbassett4379
@brianbassett4379 8 күн бұрын
Every bit of the information in this well-made video is regurgitated year after year. The question should be, why aren't 8 or 10 new, fully updated, fully automated manufacturing facilities being built strategically around the planet right now? Australia, Philippines, Canada, Argentina, Finland, Italy, United Kingdom, India, and Ukraine. Is war or the possibility of war *_ever_* going to stop? Are 155mm rounds going to be replaced by another munition? Ukraine could have already ejected Russia from their borders if they had had literally unlimited 155mmm rounds.
@danielr5637
@danielr5637 3 ай бұрын
Russia only used cluster munitions after the Ukraine army started using the illegal shells against Russian troops. Lets keep the facts straight and honest.
@matthewwalz1
@matthewwalz1 Ай бұрын
There is a line in TN also. Iowa stuffs the tnt in it. Bottle neck atm is the Iowa line they are waiting on the money that congress is holding back to finish the second line…
@jayhope615
@jayhope615 3 ай бұрын
I BET IT COSTS LESS THAN $100 TO MAKE A ROUND..DOESNT SEEM LIKE MUCH MATERIAL GOES INTO THEM.
@southernsmoke8391
@southernsmoke8391 3 ай бұрын
If every NATO country that uses 155s produced 20,000 rounds per nation per month what is lacking in inventory would soon reach a sufficient supply. If all collectively coordinated stock, Ukraine, & sales.
@veraduerga
@veraduerga 24 күн бұрын
the War Game is sickening; so much effort and money and wars continue and lives are affected, people killed , land destroyed. this must stop.
@aldunlop4622
@aldunlop4622 24 күн бұрын
Well, if you can get Putin to take up gardening instead of war, go ahead.
@michaelking6895
@michaelking6895 2 ай бұрын
80,000 for a javelin 😂 US claims 140,000 so who’s pocketing the difference??
@jkhsdjkhfjkhh3
@jkhsdjkhfjkhh3 3 ай бұрын
Yea, but now we'll have a fresh stockpile that will last a very longtime.
@steelcitytv
@steelcitytv 15 күн бұрын
What we need most of all is steel mills built and running in this country thank God Japan is buying us steel so they cant shut that down
@cormacbrogan7353
@cormacbrogan7353 6 күн бұрын
There was a meeting in 1990 that closed all ammunition plans
@user-tf4ho2uo1e
@user-tf4ho2uo1e 3 күн бұрын
I can't believe we're in the year 2024 and war at an industrial scale is suddenly cool again. We learned nothing from the 60s
@pierrehenriot2480
@pierrehenriot2480 23 күн бұрын
let's reframe the figures ... 11.000 shells a month is not a lot. During World War 1, Canada alone produced over 500.000 shells ... A WEEK ! NATO and the US need to take drastic measures to increase production capacities. Highly automated production lines are needed for shell production.
@user-ph5ff3mg2o
@user-ph5ff3mg2o 21 күн бұрын
Це жалюгідно мало, Україні потрібні десятки мільйонів снарядів але Америка боїться росію😂
@aaronwhite3119
@aaronwhite3119 15 күн бұрын
How would expect the US economy to slow down if this is going on?
@charlesrichardson8635
@charlesrichardson8635 3 ай бұрын
Our friends in South Korea make up our difference. Further you know what the lower limit is because it is in law.
@shakkabubba
@shakkabubba 2 ай бұрын
I smell F-15s.
@Shadow-1949
@Shadow-1949 15 күн бұрын
2 yesrs ago weren’t making many Now making all over. The place.
@atakanyuksel1983
@atakanyuksel1983 3 ай бұрын
Why no subtitles
@georgekondrat2062
@georgekondrat2062 22 күн бұрын
Does anyone know where the 1.5 million misiles are?
@user-ph5ff3mg2o
@user-ph5ff3mg2o 21 күн бұрын
В Америки немає ні снарядів, ні ракет. Але є в Росії, Кореї, Китаї
@georgekondrat2062
@georgekondrat2062 21 күн бұрын
@@user-ph5ff3mg2o ЄС зібрав кошти для оплати початкових 800 000, а потім знайшов 1,5 мільйона, але я не бачив, щоб вони надійшли
@squadramunter
@squadramunter 2 ай бұрын
The sad thing is that Europe is not prepared for a big war at all. And Putin know this also. But he also knows we as NATO are not someone to mess with. In Europe we depends to much on America for the Ammunition. While in The Netherlands propably the old car factory VDL is pointed to be used in the future as a ammo factory to demand on our supply's.
@jeffstrong4580
@jeffstrong4580 2 ай бұрын
Russia is important partner for S Korea but it will never allow EU fall under Russia. S Korea has plans to build ammunition factories in Spain and Poland. Russia is making 250,000 artillery rounds a month while S Korea produce 300,000 155mm NATO compatible artillery rounds a month and can produce 500,000 a month during a war using robots in manufacturing.
@richard09able
@richard09able 4 ай бұрын
The USA is ramping up production. Also expending older munitions is wise.
@karlheinzvonkroemann2217
@karlheinzvonkroemann2217 3 ай бұрын
It can't be done fast enough.
@oscarlebron9088
@oscarlebron9088 4 ай бұрын
What the Ukrainians need along with Taiwan are programmable drones similar to the ones used in the film ANGEL HAS FALLEN, drones programmed to hunt enemy armor and artillery capable of carrying up to 5lbs of explosives that can stay in the air for 24 hours and travel 600 miles and back. Each drone would cost no more than $1,000.
@mikethespike7579
@mikethespike7579 4 ай бұрын
That sounds interesting. I didn't know that there was such a thing. The Ukrainians have now developed a drone capable of carrying a 10 kilo shell that can take out a T-72 and costs about $1000. Not bad when you think a T-72 costs about 4 million.
@holgernarrog962
@holgernarrog962 4 ай бұрын
@@mikethespike7579 The basics of these drones is from China.
@mikethespike7579
@mikethespike7579 4 ай бұрын
@@holgernarrog962 Yeah, that's the big laugher.
@holgernarrog962
@holgernarrog962 4 ай бұрын
@@mikethespike7579 South Korea and Japan have as well a huge electronic industry suitable to make such drones.
@davidelliott5843
@davidelliott5843 4 ай бұрын
The costs of a Russian tank is irrelevant. Most were made by the Soviets. Money spent generations ago. Russia is no longer making new tanks and they are struggling to repair/restore anything from stored/scrapyard stock.
@divinejusticefeelsgood
@divinejusticefeelsgood 3 ай бұрын
Victoria Nuland recently asked Turkiye to sell its 155mm to ukraine
@laurelspradlin2154
@laurelspradlin2154 Ай бұрын
Let me ask this question Those shells could travel 20 miles away. Is there anyone on the other end that is actually paying attention to what those shells are hitting? What if there’s no one even on the other hand and they’re just wasting it on dirt
@aldunlop4622
@aldunlop4622 24 күн бұрын
Yeah, they have drones doing the spotting and even send back exact GPS coordinates, relaying back fall of fire etc.
@nirhawk
@nirhawk 6 ай бұрын
0:36 is that guy didn't use Earplugs ?
@sashavasko
@sashavasko 4 ай бұрын
Ukrainians are disposable. Sadly.
@papayspeanut
@papayspeanut 3 ай бұрын
Crazy to know that those employees making the shells will take many lives
@Martin-UKR
@Martin-UKR 22 күн бұрын
China didn't provide bombs to Russia.... but Ukraine using Chinese drones and Chinese FPV in this war..... you can say China support Ukraine in this way
@johnwilliam6638
@johnwilliam6638 8 ай бұрын
Need at least 250,000 per month and that’s just for Ukraine, time to ramp it up even more
@r.j.m4245
@r.j.m4245 5 ай бұрын
Time for peace
@jordiegundersen1465
@jordiegundersen1465 4 ай бұрын
Speculation doesn’t sit with fact..!
@haroldayat2066
@haroldayat2066 3 ай бұрын
US arms manufacturers can produce 100 times that amount monthly, but first, use older inventories.
@taralown7023
@taralown7023 3 ай бұрын
So curious what make this mom looked like when it was only people and no machines. Must have been scary
@claygreen4723
@claygreen4723 4 ай бұрын
They should talk to the Chinese. Bet they would get a better deal.
@axavidesign1670
@axavidesign1670 3 ай бұрын
You forgot to mention Russia has been using cluster weapons since the start of the war and their rate of reliability is incredibly bad in comparison to US made . Ukraine wants and needs cluster shells and missiles.
@driveramd12
@driveramd12 3 ай бұрын
Not only ammunition, is AMERICAN 155! Consider the Howlitzers weakens with excessive use.
@lewcrowley3710
@lewcrowley3710 Ай бұрын
The barrels have life expectancy. perhaps 10,000s of rounds. In WWII Normandy, the US was bogged down in the hedgerows and Arty went on a shooting spree. Predictably, there was a large number of 105mm howitzers that needed barrels at the same time. The US shot many rounds at maximum charge, also wearing out the weapon. There was also a shortage of shells too.
@jkhsdjkhfjkhh3
@jkhsdjkhfjkhh3 3 ай бұрын
I keep hearing "they were small enough to fly up to ... miles". Wouldn't a larger artillery round travel further? Think your logic is backwards on that topic.
@dhenzceenuggets1711
@dhenzceenuggets1711 4 ай бұрын
The US should consider making military factories in the Philippines asap…it could make a diffierence to the supply…
@mandarinandthetenrings2201
@mandarinandthetenrings2201 3 ай бұрын
No the Philippines are not idea and by doing that you would make the Pilipino people a target we don't want that.
@dhenzceenuggets1711
@dhenzceenuggets1711 3 ай бұрын
@@mandarinandthetenrings2201 The Philippines has always been a target...you should watch the news more often...
@AlexA-pc7hy
@AlexA-pc7hy 4 ай бұрын
Thanks the USA from Ukraine for all the help, weapon and ammunition! Thanks to all who remember and continue helping stop russian aggression!
@TonyFarley-gi2cv
@TonyFarley-gi2cv 5 ай бұрын
So we have a vertebell problem as I'm looking at your sales fire out I'm seeing the rotation of it's cooling and heating being absorbed the wrong direction so the distance of your length has a volume spread against you or your size of your ratios of what you consider metric weight and material is being designed in the wrong direction
@philipfrazee5661
@philipfrazee5661 5 ай бұрын
What the hell are you trying to say ?
@coloradomountainman8659
@coloradomountainman8659 4 ай бұрын
That is exactly what I was thinking.
@TonyFarley-gi2cv
@TonyFarley-gi2cv 4 ай бұрын
Ur heat is expanding out of your bullet which means the compression that you use to produce your bullet not a solid as you think
@user-mp3xq9qp7i
@user-mp3xq9qp7i 4 ай бұрын
I tried to apply but they said my resume has no military experience or college.
@Shadow-1949
@Shadow-1949 2 ай бұрын
If you’re real . Apply where for what ?
@frankstella8947
@frankstella8947 8 ай бұрын
Improve production ucraine needs more build another place
@Youtuber-xs9cp
@Youtuber-xs9cp 5 ай бұрын
Then Woke Biden and corrupt dictator Zelinski wont be able to launder money
@robertjramoyen4838
@robertjramoyen4838 3 ай бұрын
Profiteering causes scarcity.
@christiancrawford4830
@christiancrawford4830 4 ай бұрын
Why we not build our stock pile…
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