NICHOLAS HOULT: Prepping for Lex Luthor, Contemplating Quitting & Career Gratitude

[@ryanprice2699]

Michael realizing he was Hoult's first Lex Luthor was pretty damn heartwarming. DC Comics roles and the legacy they hold is always nice to see

[@nilesstark]

Michael was my 3rd live Lex. But still my favorite.

[@sino8r499]

Maybe heartwarming to you but it makes everyone else feel old lol

[@samanthab1923]

I never minded Jessie Eisenberg’s

[@iyerravikumar0]

He had Clancy Brown

[@bobmarshall8527]

That was my favourite moment

[@mohammadbashammakh]

It’s always nice to see two Lexs hanging out together You should be worried, Clark

[@mudiametokunboh2370]

Haha facts can’t wait for Hoult’s Lex loved the podcast as well

[@kfw9257]

Get Jesse Eisenberg on the show too and have all three plan Clark's/Kal's demise.

[@kendallandrews8691]

Hopefully he'll be better than eisenburg

[@bennettemmanuel4373]

I don't think he played Lex, but The Riddler ​@kfw9257

[@kendallandrews8691]

@@bennettemmanuel4373 haha it felt that way

[@brandonmaze6119]

Dude so wanted to pick Michael's brain about playing Lex but realized he was the one being interviewed. Michael should feel like a million bucks. That was awesome.

[@ARBLACKx]

I'm really looking forward to the podcast when the new Superman movie is about to come out and Michael and Nicholas just talk about playing the role of Lex together

[@cesareaugusto9677]

That dawned on me too. Michael looked totally flattered when Nicholas revealed that he was his first Lex Luthor he saw on screen

[@Jason5818UI]

Michael is apart of history in terms of being lex, did a phenomenal job. I felt he set the standard as modern live action lex not to mention he was voicing Wally West around the same time as Smallville. He's a part of some iconic stuff.

[@isuriadireja91]

​@@Jason5818UIhis voice work as Wally needs to be more known and appreciated.

[@phillybul30]

Michael was the best Lex Luther IMO. Easily the best actor on smallville.

[@malikcrim13]

The fact that he knows about All Star Superman makes me happy.

[@MajorClownShoe]

It’s a good story to know.

[@Jjw338]

When did he say that in the interview?

[@jesseowenvillamor6348]

Why does it make you happy?

[@DireAxis]

@@jesseowenvillamor6348 All Star Supes is considered a bit of a watershed moment. One of the very best stories for the character and Comics in general.

[@jesseowenvillamor6348]

@@DireAxis I know, but why does it make @malilkcrim13 happy if Hoult knows that comics?

[@o.r.j3213]

Rosenbaum doing the Lord’s work for DC fans. Thank you sir 😌

[@MajorClownShoe]

Maxwell Lord ?

[@serwinzzalot9989]

Most anticipated movie in the world right now and Rosey gets the new Lex before anyone.

[@nrnehigie7382]

@@serwinzzalot9989 good. He was the only live action lex I really liked

[@o.r.j3213]

@@nrnehigie7382 🤝

[@blaxpoitation8528]

@@MajorClownShoeWithout the bleeding nose. Absolutely

[@seraphillion460]

Yo a podcast episode with David Corenswet and Tom Welling chatting about their experiences being Superman once the movie comes out would be legit as hell

[@alejandroangel998]

Tom would say that "he's not Superman"

[@chrisb5243]

@@alejandroangel998He probably wouldn’t actually. I think he’s mature enough to not disrespect his fellow actors like that.

[@creativename6126]

@@chrisb5243Tom would say he isn’t Superman. He signed on to Smallville to play Clark Kent, he had no interest in actually playing Superman because he found the human side to be more interesting

[@chrisb5243]

@@creativename6126 Oh I misunderstood I thought he was saying that’s what he would say about David lol.

[@jasonibanez9855]

​@chrisb5243 lmfao Tom Welling coming onto the pod like "Yo, you ain't no superman, Corn Sweat, you punk ass. *I'm* Superman"

[@whyuseahandle]

Anyone from the u.k born in the 90s will always remember Nicholas as Tony from skins.

[@FarhanMehmood]

Yes.

[@roadrollerdio565]

First generation Skins has one of the most insane young casts looking back: Nicholas Hoult, Dev Patel and Daniel Kaluuya! Also Joe Dempsie, Hannah Murray (GoT), Aimee-Ffion Edwards and Kaya Scodelario. What a talent pool. It's also such a shock to remember Peter Capaldi was in it.

[@LoremonX]

I have no idea how, but I remember watching Skins in the 90s until they changed the cast, and I lost interest. West Virginia is far from the u.k. 😅

[@prathapkutty7407]

First generation was the best. Second was good but not as interesting as the first. The rest went downhill after that​@@roadrollerdio565

[@WaniZame]

@@LoremonXSkins came out in 2007 so a bit later than the 90s if it was the 90s UK the fashion sense would have burnt out your retinas 😂

[@lindamawdsley6130]

Nicholas is such a warm, genuine young man and this episode was a treat to listen to and I wish him every success with his forthcoming role as Lex Luthor🙂

[@mudiametokunboh2370]

facts amazing actor cant wait for Legacy gonna be something special

[@ytuser_3122]

I was so excited to see this episode after Rosenbaum mentioned he did an episode with him, it also feels so surreal seeing a big actor on this podcast

[@henrywallacesghost5883]

Seen him grow up in the public eye ever since About a Boy and he genuinely seems like a nice chap.

[@adriangriffith42]

The note Michael gave Nicholas about being charismatic with an undertone of rage was fundamental but perfect! Backed up with the description of an emotional event to draw from and the freedom to explore the character, I could see the moment the penny dropped. A great passing of the torch moment!

[@El3ctr0Lun4]

Timestamp?

[@myfathersson3751]

Nicholas is a great actor with great range.

[@andresbarriga5305]

Not that great of a range, bt he's pretty charismatic.

[@SylvainValmyJr]

I think there's no one more qualified than Mickael to give advice to Hoult about Lex ! So glad to know that !

[@JonS-jn5wy]

Gene Hackman?

[@SecretMagician]

Clancy Brown? ​@@JonS-jn5wy

[@caronte008]

I was already a fan of his work, now I'm a fan of him as a person. What a chill, humble guy.

[@theresemarkham9387]

Loving this episode. I like how the best Lex ever is giving advice to the new Lex. Nicholas is going to do a great job. I remember watching him in About a Boy. He is such a talented actor. Also loved his X man role. Best podcast ever!

[@chand911]

He wasn't X-Man.

[@gualacheesesteak]

@@chand911but he was in X-Men & that’s what the person was meaning to say

[@betweentheripples8847]

@@chand911 I can't tell if you're being a pedantic jerk or just showing your ignorance, but Hoult played the young Hank McCoy/Beast in X-Men films.

[@darianrose2195]

Loved Nicholas in Warm Bodies and my goodness he is too delightful in The Great. I honestly didn't watch all of Smallville, but I watched the first two seasons and his Lex Luthor and the dynamic with his father is what comes to my mind. Much more than Tom as Superman(no hate to Tom).

[@Eddie-mo2wu]

Nicholas is a phenomenal actor, he went criminally underused as Beast in the X-Men movies, so it’ll be awesome to see him tackling a role like Lex that REFUSES to be ignored.

[@VeeCyberpunk]

I gave him a free banana in 2018!

[@kaliban81]

The first ten mins hit me in the feels. Lex's first Lex!!! Could tell it meant a lot to both gentleman. For the British contingent, referencing Smallville on Channel 4, during T4, was a nostalgia blast. It was an institution for the young and the hungover.

[@archangelarielle262]

Nicholas Hoult role as Peter III in The Great was amazing. That was a genuinely great show.

[@VeeCyberpunk]

Banana.

[@thisphillipbrian]

Michael, in my opinion, you have been the best Lex to date... and it's not even close. I'm a big Hackman fan, but you gave Lex layers that no one has before or since. Nicholas, break a leg, brother. I am looking forward to your take. I hope you pass the high bar Michael set.

[@felin_de_la_nuit]

Yes

[@andresbarriga5305]

I second and third this.

[@Carla_FT]

22:00 Wow Nicholas Hoult knows his subject (or maybe it's James Gunn who told him about it lol) but anyways All Star Superman is one of the best comics of Superman, it's cool to see an actor who seems to have done his research ! I can't wait to see his version of Lex.

[@FuzzyDlop]

The multiverse is here.

[@Krypton_Ken]

Very cool, the fact that Smallville was Nicholas' first Lex and that it meant so much to Rosey was really heartwarming to see. Gonna fancast for a moment, it would be really cool to have Rosey play Lionel Luthor in the Gunn movies, just sayin'... plus he could keep his hair!

[@MrHunt160]

I can see Gunn giving him a cameo. He gave him a small role in Guardians, so I have 0 doubt he’ll give him a cameo in the new DCU somewhere. Having him play Lionel would be too on the nose though.

[@mysticranger6894]

Now we need Tom Welling and David Corenswet in one room lol. or henry cavill as well.

[@kadosho02]

Anything is possible

[@ricardolucas2943]

Or Tyler

[@mitchellregan21]

Throw Routh in there too

[@Jubtube_]

Would break the Internet 😂😂😂

[@Alvaro-rq8sn]

@@mitchellregan21Kirk All….. George Reev….. I mean, Chritoph….. SHIT

[@chrislewis217]

Handled the sensitive topic of Nicholas not wanting to go into something that was very personal to him. Very well done handling that uncomfortable moment making Nicholas feel at ease while interviewing him.

[@rahuldahoob]

What was it tho?!? Very nosey and curious...

[@HavanaOutpost]

4:05 this is so genuine. Truly a noble and heartwarming moment.

[@Werewolf914]

I love Nicholas Hoult he's incredible from Warm Bodies to X Men to The Menu to Renfield whatever role he's in he knocks it out of the park he's a Legend I'm beyond excited to see how he plays Lex

[@andrewthomas8888]

The 2 Lex Luthors meet!!!! I have enjoyed Nick's work since X-Men First Class Trilogy and Renfield!!!

[@GTMQ8]

I mentioned this before, but this is honestly one of my favorite Podcasts and youtube channels. It almost feels like a crime that you don't have over a million subscribers. The guests are amazing. The interactions and discussions are genuine, interesting, heartfelt and many times, funny. Thank you Michael for making us smile and laugh week after week and giving us a chance to look Inside of You, and in turn, Inside of Us.

[@ARBLACKx]

Completely agree, really get to know these celebrities at a personal level with his long duration interviews. Just shows how fake their 5 minute ones are on the talk shows like Kimmel and Fallon

[@GTMQ8]

@@ARBLACKxThat’s because in those interviews they’re promoting their work and doing stories/anecdotes. While here they can open up about their personal histories and experiences. So far a few of my favorite recent guests are Michael Biehn, James Gunn, Mark Sheppard, Katee Sackhoff and Kumail Nanjiani.

[@ReelPodcasts]

Someone once said on a podcast that Nicolas Holt is like a modern day Rex Harrison and I couldn't agree more. What a great conversation.

[@JarvisSensei]

As a millennial from the South West of the UK, Skins was my absolute favourite thing. I've loved watching Nick, Joe and Dev go on to such incredible carers the past couple of decades.

[@Mashamellou]

Nicolas is so warm and pleasant! Very down to earth and humble. What a wonderful interview, Michael.

[@angelgustavoulloagalvez3366]

Nicholas seems like a genuine, cool and chill guy. Loved this episode!

[@likestoospooge]

I absolutely loved Hoult in The Menu. Stoked to see him as Lex.

[@MISTERORION]

Love how Micheal humanizes and brings out a real positive energy from every guest. Really enjoyed this one. Can’t wait to see the follow up and his performance!

[@chucknew5276]

Lex on Lex. Love to see it

[@rickyhuynh4641]

You mean also white Wally West meets young Hank McCoy/Beast!!

[@SilvLocs]

Hoult on The Great is no exaggeration an all time performance it captures the entire scope of human emotion. Writing and acting in perfect harmony

[@evesapple]

The great is so underrated it's crazy.

[@gloria7190]

So true I can’t believe how underrated he is

[@zacharyjohnson6453]

The best way I can describe this whole segment is it's basically big brother and little brother uniting together and the big brother handing down the torch to his little brother in full confidence that he knows he's going to do a good job and at the same time he's also humbled and honored that his younger brother looked up to his older brother for inspiration

[@piusdoe8984]

Never saw his career coming this far watching Warm bodies. That was a film i watched on a whim and ended up really liking. Glad to see how far his come.

[@leannepritchett6323]

What a Mensch Rosenbaum is. The grace and kindness he showed to Nicholas is unparalleled. Love how the og Lex is passing the torch to the new one. Truly epic ❤️❤️🙏.

[@mb8132]

Been a fan of this dude since Skins. Cool to see him grow into a big hollywood actor

[@Socksydeeryenaboi]

Nicholas Hoult’s voice is so charming to listen to, it just hits a spot in my ears that I’ve never felt before

[@goodvibes5497]

I first saw him in Warm Bodies, and I've loved everything else he's done. What a great guest! Awesome episode!

[@DavidCartmellDJCartmell]

I served Mr Hoult when I used to work for Waitrose and got his autograph. Very nice and down to earth.

[@Comix25253]

Awesome to see Michael's reaction to how he was Nicholas' first Lex. The good advice Michael gives, under James Gunn's direction, we're definitely getting peak Lex Luthor in the DCU! Nicholas will be amazing. Wonderful to see the role whether it's in film or TV impacts someone's life. Now Nicholas will be Lex for kids today and kids being born. I can't wait for Superman!

[@miguelm.5402]

A very lovely moment was when Nicholas wasn't comfortable sharing a dark period in his life, and yet Michael was so respectful of Nicholas' feelings. The way he handled it is an indication of how great and empathetic Michael is. As a neewbie actor myself, seeing Nicholas smiling and feeling heard is the perfect interaction between two people, two actors. I'll also add that's a great way for filmmakers to build trust with their cast. That way the actors will be comfortable enough to be vulnerable when the camera's rolling. Bravo, Michael 👏🏻

[@cje3247]

I thought the same. I was guessing that it was his breakup from Jennifer Lawrence.

[@raana9586]

I loved Nicholas Hoult ever since Skins. If anyone can play Lex even a fraction as good as Michael, it would be him.

[@nakazonegamestreaming896]

It was funny how out of the blue Hoult was interviewing Rosenbaum.

[@seanbowers9304]

Nick is a good dude, he comes from my home town & went to the gym my girlfriend worked at, after a late shift my girlfriend was waiting outside in the dark & Nick waited with her until her mum showed up, nothing weird about it - he just was being kind.

[@jissanhuq3792]

Some people wear that on their face and i always assumed it of him. Very nice seeming n in a way will be great for Lex cuz you’ll like him and be charmed

[@cje3247]

That was really nice he waited with her so she was safe.

[@alejandroangel998]

Love that Nicholas got to prepare for the role chatting with the greatest Lex ever.

[@RadicalValkyrie]

I saw Gunn shared this and flew straight over to youtube. What a lovely interview and you always give so much, Michael. Im sure Nicholas felt some extra peer confidence after this. He is so nice and super talented. Creatives all need that support. 🥰

[@christhompson3172]

It’s awesome to hear Nicholas is a racing fan and is learning the craft! Driving at COTA is insanely cool. Thanks for bringing him on Michael!

[@darriendastar3941]

That was great. Hoult doesn't do many interviews, so it was so interesting t see him let down his guard a little.

[@bloody_bubblegum]

that “so i shouldn’t do that?” just cemented him for me as lex. The quick, poignant riposte. 🔥

[@electricfire621]

I finished watching Warm Bodies with my gf last weekend, and I've seen Nicholas in other films such as The Menu, X-Men First Class, and X-Men Days of Futures Past. He's an absolutely tremendous actor and I can't wait to see his portrayal of Lex.

[@gothicgirly2002]

Even my little dog started to cry when Peter fell under the ice. I got it on video and everything

[@visitorzeta1669]

Wow-wow-wee-waa! I was not expecting to see Nicholas Hoult on here. I loved him in The Great!!!

[@kadosho02]

An awesome chat. Nicholas is a fantastic actor. The range he has covered is amazing. And the new Lex. Definitely will be a wild & fun ride with this new Superman film Cannot wait to see him return, after the film. A Lex & Lex dialogue

[@michaelclausen1135]

Much respect to Nicholas coming to learn from the Master.

[@I-speak-U-shut-it]

😊

[@JieTie]

Nic Hoult is one of my fav actors of recent years.

[@aaroncrilly2005]

The passing of the torch... or in this case the razer for the hair lol

[@rowanlocke5403]

The most natural, genuine conversation. I want to see these guys in a movie or show together.

[@klaatuNaatu]

Fury Road was the first thing I'd seen Nicholas in, and I've loved everything I've seen him in since. And I've gotta say, I never imagined him as Lex Luthor but I have no doubt he'll knock it out of the park.

[@dynaguy3]

This has to be a highlight of the podcast. Seeing Michael give advice and pass on his techniques to the next person to play his most iconic role of Lex Luthor is special.

[@Keenergetic]

Mr. Hoult's english speech is outstanding!

[@sorscha1308]

That was actually a really fantastic low key impression of Anthony Hopkins to be fair. He got his very light Welsh accent and his intonations just right and even stared off into the distance, like Sir Anthony does when he's being himself. That was dead on.

[@SquabbleBoxHQ]

Yes, Michael's the best Lex. Good luck, Nicholas!

[@cravenche9377]

It was nice of him to give you recognition for ur work in Smallville, coz let's be honest one of the best portraits of Lex Luthor you did!

[@nate29]

I hope we get Welling and Corenswet. Loved Houkt as Beast, but my favroite movie of his is probably The Menu.

[@Carla_FT]

1:07:55 ahah well done Michael for inviting yourself to the premiere 😂 Personally I will go at the premiere to Paris to the Grand Rex (because I'm French) but I hope that Michael you will really be there (we will see that the day of its release...), anyways, you really deserve to be invited because you are and will always be the best Lex Luthor (try to bring Tom Welling with you? It would be funny and nice to see you both at the premiere)

[@rosewoodbriar]

This episode was so lovely, probably one of my favorite episodes to date. 🥺 I’m hoping that Nicholas Hoult and James Gunn both agreeing that Michael’s Lex was the best is a good sign for how Lex is going to be presented in the movie. None of the other live action Lexes have really resonated with me, but Nicholas is an exceptional actor and has the right look for him, so I’m very optimistic about the movie!

[@austinramsay4837]

Nicholas Holt asks you a question "What did you take away from the playing the character?" I think it would be interesting to bring Nicholas back after he has played the role, to have a conversation on the contrasts between what he took away from the role being in a condensed film format compared to you with the episodic exploration of the character.

[@lawrenceharrison1190]

After the next film is done I'd love to see a Lex round table with all the other Lex's you've had on the show / the ones you can get together!

[@benhughes6507]

This was great, the Lex chat between them really pulled me in, great character, two great guys! And Nic referencing smallville on channel 4 really took me back to my late teens

[@WarhawkBeyond2040]

I have pretty much grown up watching Nicholas Hoult as we're both around the same age group, he's 4 years younger than me and it has been a real blast to watch him mature into an amazing actor in his own right. I've been a fan of his since his Skins day, he is going to absolutely kill it as Lex Luthor and i can't wait to see him in action.

[@xKingxKrimsonx]

Nicholas you have become my favorite person to see on screen recently, Keep it coming🎉❤

[@ilikeknives1000]

nick fanboying is great and i think it's something good ole lex(michael) needs to hear more often ♥ he was not the first lex i saw but he was the best lex by far

[@ejk217]

Lex interviewing Lex. I love it!!

[@sjogre7789]

Houlton was so engaged. I felt like I was intruding on 2 good friends' conversation.👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@Jstewart2007]

Lex talking to Lex about Lex. Love it! Please interview David Corenswet next. He has a new movie coming out next month so now’s the perfect time. I really want to know more about the new Man of Steel.

[@prathapkutty7407]

What is his latest movie called?

[@Jstewart2007]

@@prathapkutty7407 The Greatest Hits. It comes to Hulu in April.

[@I-speak-U-shut-it]

​@@prathapkutty7407Twisters

[@krank23]

It always kind of makes me smile a little bit whenever two like well-known or semi-well known actors meet and it turns out they're actually fans of eachother. It just creates such an interesting, human atmosphere I think. Also Rosenbaum is really good as an interviewer (when he doesn't talk over his guests). But he really kind of seems to create a really good vibe that makes these people actually like being there, just talking like a regular human person.

[@ZaOnly420]

Nicholas is a fantastic actor, he has so much potential . He's gonna have a great future as lex and other movies . I'm excited

[@CrAZychicke]

Thanks for interviewing him. I loved Nicholas in Skins UK, Catherine the Great and I still have to see him in Tolkien.

[@coltoncampbell1022]

what a freaking cool interview. To see Nicholas really leaning in on the lex talk and try to gather tools. Great work!

[@richrent]

Thank You Michael for your interviews.

[@yusuf_aleem]

Loved this interview; he seems like a genuinely cool, chilled and intelligent guy. Great job! 🎉

[@auntvesuvi3872]

Many thanks to Rosey, Ryan and Nicholas! 🤩 I first saw Mr. Hoult in ABOUT A BOY (2002), then in THE WEATHER MAN (2005). By the time I watched him in two seasons of SKINS (2007) he was solidified as a talent to keep track of and I've happily done so all these years. I'm looking very forward to seeing his take on the 'Lex Luthor' character.

[@gigigmd]

41:02 Knowing when to maintain privacy is also emotional intelligence! And respect for your own history!

[@kpj9535]

for the crazy roll it was his acting in Renfield was great.

[@OMGruesome]

Nicholas is gonna kill it as Lex

[@LGne-kk3bt]

Incredible interview, Nicholas was so open and so great, you can tell he cares about acting and not the rest of the BS. Great questions Michael, you are our Lex always.

[@TVFlix]

Feel like I watched this guy my entire life. Remember seeing about a boy when I was a kid and skins when I was a teenager etc.

[@marknutt4398]

Micheal in 2001 I was 2 😂 my Mother was a huge fan and actually introduced me to the show ❤ god bless her soul and god bless you guys 🎉

[@himynameisnickolas]

It was so awesome to have Nicholas on the podcast. He was so excited to talk Lex with Michael, I think he could have spent the whole hour on that subject. I love Nick and I agree he is excellent in everything that he is in but I’m not gonna lie, I had my reservations about him being Lex but after this podcast learning that he is a big fan of Michael’s Lex and the fact that he casually brought up All Star Superman has me feeling he is on the right path.

[@thewkovacs316]

michael's take on lex was extremely nuanced, which is why his portrayal remains the best live action take clancy brown's take on lex is the best animated i think that nick should reach back to the character he portrayed in skins for use as lex

[@jissanhuq3792]

One of my favorite actors and the reasons are on full display. Very amiable dude, underrated yet not at the same time.

[@creativename6126]

Really hoping for a Rosenbaum Cameo in Superman. Actually it’d be really cool if there were two news anchors reporting about some big Superman save and it was Tom and Michael

[@DarMar106]

Meeting of the Luthors! I was wondering it be cool if you had him on. Which means you've got to get Corenswet and Brosnahan on. Also I love Michael being that supportive older brother here giving him solid advice and how much Nicholas himself wants to hear Michael’s opinion and wisdom

[@LeeHutchingsdrumsUK]

To answer Nick's question, Smallville was shown in the UK on Channel 4 (during the T4 all-weekend show), usually on Sunday afternoons.

[@craighay9086]

Nicholas >James Bond I think he's such a great actor he could pull any role off. I started watching the great by accident, and what an outrageous script, extremely funny performances, and a show that can be heart wrenching and uplifting. Can't say enough about The Great. Michael your still number 1 Lex, however Nicholas will definitely give you a run for you money.

[@JackFlicks]

Amazing interivew. Nicholas seems very humble and relatable. I'm sure he will bring us an amazing Lex. I must say though, I would love if you guys could have Tyler Hoechlin on the podcast. He would gel very well with Michael and the podcast as a whole.

[@iLLiCiT_XL]

I’m so excited to see his Lex. He was so damn good in “Skins” and I really enjoyed him in X-Men. And working with James Gunn? Great combo!

[@FuRpLe74]

I didn’t know Nicholas is English and was surprised by his accent .. I VERY much enjoyed listening to it 😁