Install Nuna Pipa Base with LATCH and load leg

Watch The Car Seat Lady install the Nuna Pipa base with LATCH and the load leg.
If you have a Nuna Pipa Lite, Pipa Lite LX, Stokke Nuna Pipa, or Bugaboo Turtle - you are in luck because they all use the same base as the Nuna Pipa shown in this video!
We do not recommend installing this base with the vehicle's seat belt as it often does not install very securely.
For more info on load legs, see here: thecarseatlady.com/loadleg
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[@mattdicker8858]

After watching another KZbin tutorial, my wife and I were on the verge of a frustration-fueled argument. After watching this video, we had the car seat installed in about 45 seconds. Thank you for taking it step-by-step and not skipping important information. A+ video.

[@thecarseatlady1]

Thanks for such lovely feedback!

[@xzzdm]

Thanks a ton for this awesome tutorial! It's super professional and detailed, packed with useful tips that go beyond the usual stuff. Plus, it's really easy to follow - not a single wasted word in there! Great work!

[@keyamorgan4172]

YOU ARE A LIFE SAVER!!!! THANK YOU my husband and I were dying trying to install these in 105 degree weather and the techniques you gave helped us get them in at the right recline. YOU ARE THE BEST

[@theresadayney1350]

Your install instructions are clearly executed, giving parents reassurance to install their childs seat correctly. I first certified in May, 2005 in Arnold MD, and you were an instructor that week. Your passion and your mother's was contagious and it plays a huge part in why I continue to maintain my certification and teach a child safety passenger class at the local community hospital. Thank you so much!!

[@thecarseatlady1]

This is one of the loveliest notes I've received in a long time - and so appreciate you taking the time to write it. It made my day! I'm thankful that I was able to inspire you - and that you have maintained your certification and helped so many families in the past 14 years!

[@fireside101]

this is by far the best explanation of how to install and remove this car seat that i've found, and i've been watching a lot of them!

[@kristen5933]

Omg, I can’t thank you enough. I’ve been struggling with getting it installed/uninstalled since my baby boy was born and would always have to rely on my bf or family members to help me with it. As a parent it’s mandatory to know these types of things. Thank you so much for this very informative video!!!

[@thecarseatlady1]

You are very welcome!!!

[@janhemmelmann3876]

SUCH a good video! Thank you so much for going into this much detail while not needlessly wasting time talking around unimportant things or repeating information unnecessarily.

[@TheLifeofLeo2001]

Just when I was on the verge of tears due to frustration, I watched your video and bam! Everything clicked. Thank you!

[@thecarseatlady1]

I'm so glad I was able to help!!!

[@zatalay97]

Great video. I watched two others and you were the first to mention the recline foot. I had my seat installed seemingly properly very quickly but it wiggled too much. Putting the recline foot into the right position solved the problem -- thank you!

[@madisensalls6012]

the car seat lady, my hero.

[@uhyeahsure01]

Hands down the best video instructions for this car seat. Thank you so much.

[@thecarseatlady1]

Thanks - this made our day!

[@TylerWashington]

Thank you so much!!!! My husband and I were on pins and needles for a while!

[@AbeOrtiz88]

you're the best I did for my wife and she was happy with me!

[@mandydraper]

Thank you! Install was short and sweet.

[@TSquared604]

This has been SO helpful! We watched another video but this one has much much great information! Thank you!!!

[@thecarseatlady1]

So glad we were able to show you the information you needed to keep your baby safe!

[@gilguajardo7808]

Wanted to thank you for the ultra informative website and videos... Thank you! You rule.

[@thecarseatlady1]

Thanks Gil!

[@milubb4yoo]

best tutorial on the installation process!!!

[@sofiap.8116]

Wow, just wow. Thank you so so much!!!!!

[@danellemarcus1963]

This was great thank you!

[@markgeater5288]

Really useful video, very thorough!

[@anra521]

That was a really great video. It was very informative for this mommy to be!

[@kacimespelt3006]

thank you, this was very helpful

[@solmazdehghan5752]

This video is really helpful! Thanksss....

[@iamdnorth]

This was super helpful, thanks so much!! Now the carseat is in there way better than it was when I was messing with seatbelts.

[@lisasynalovski5003]

Bravo! Think I can do this now!

[@sistematico17]

Very throughout. Thanks!!

[@ememer9820]

Thank you!

[@williamkennard7384]

Excellent

[@jrparikh-islam5665]

Great and simple easy-to-follow video!! Thank you so much!!

[@stephaniehernandez8815]

I loved your video!! Very simple and informative. I have a 2019 Honda Accord sport. Will this fit correct in my car with no issues? I just ordered the car seat. I’m hoping no issues

[@stephshawn03]

Thank you. This was super helpful. Do you have any suggestions for a slight rattle occurring? The car seat seems secure but still has a slight rattle to either side.

[@thecarseatlady1]

The Pipa rattles... it drives some people crazy as a result.

[@tuna030308]

Ure awesome!

[@thecarseatlady1]

Thank you!!!

[@maggielazowski8995]

I have this carseat and it doesnt move side to side, however if I were to pull up on the back (end where the stability leg is) the seat pulls up a few inches. Is that safe??

[@raquelrivera5099]

Hello! Im installing this base and I have this same problem. Were you able to figure it out??

[@bethmcclintock499]

I’m having the same issue- did you find an answer.

[@aarons3332]

Same issue here.

[@sillei3065]

Hello everyone... were you able to find an answer for this?

[@joshuasadownik7319]

Same question here

[@monkmoore]

What if the base is too reclined for the bubble to touch the line with both the recline leg and without it? (2021 Suburban)

[@Ghellz]

Thanks for the great video! I'm trying to install this on a 2006 Honda Civic and no matter what I do, I can't seem to get the bubble on the safe side of the line for an infant. As I look at this video too, it doesn't appear you were able to get it on yours either. Is this a problem? Does it mean that it won't work on this car? Really appreciate anyone's advice!

[@AlisaBaer]

The bubble just needs to touch the line. As long as it touches the line, it is OK.

[@EdnaBlossoms310]

I brought this car seat to use in my Japanese car but I can’t fit the lower anchors in. Help!

[@strollerspaglobal6567]

Hello Friend, Thanks for helping so many! Curious if you have ever run into the issue of installing, using a locked belt, and having the buckle get stuck under the flipped-in ridged latches during an attempted removal. We were able to re-buckle the seat but we're not sure how we will help them get it out. I've contacted the car manufacturer about somehow reversing the ALR and I'm also in touch with Nuna. We've been installing Nunas and Turtles for a while now and have never run into this issue. Thanks for any leads!

[@thecarseatlady1]

I'm not sure I understand exactly what issue you were encountering. Can you email me and include pictures/videos so I can see exactly what went on - and include the year/make/model of the vehicle as well. info AT the carseatlady DOT com is my email

[@cocolianz]

I have noticed that my stability leg would get longer by itself if the carseat base flips up towards the backseat, is that normal should it do that or keep the same length as when it is initially set?

[@joshuasadownik7319]

Same. It seems like the whole base can rotate upward when the latches and seatbelt are in place. @TheCarSeatLady, any tips?

[@aspenmorris7225]

Did you ever get any advice?!

[@tarun79deep]

Thank you for the video. It is really useful. One Quick Question: I don't have a latch in middle seat and have a hump on the floor in the middle seat. So am using seat belt without stability leg because middle seat install is considered safer. I am wondering if this middle seat install is more safe than one on a side seat with latch and stability leg for a new born?

[@thecarseatlady1]

The side with rigid LATCH and the load leg is likely much safer as 1. the Pipa base typically does not install securely with the seat belt - especially in a center seat like yours that is akwardly contoured at best 2. the load leg decreases forces on the baby's head and neck. We suggest that families who purchase the Pipa use the base's features to their fullest and install using LATCH (which in almost every car means on one of the side seats, not the center) and the load leg.

[@tarun79deep]

Thank you For responding. The information is really useful.

[@annalewis853]

Hi there - thanks for the great video! Followed per instructions and pretty straight forward, However with the grey recline bar pulled out, It pushed the whole base off the seat. The only thing touching is the recline bar. Changed the height of the load leg and still just changes the front to touch. 2017 Ki Sorento - have I made an install error?

[@thecarseatlady1]

You have not made an error - but the design of the Pipa is not ideal as you've seen. We'd recommend switching to the Clek Liing which is currently the safest infant seat in the US as it outperforms every other car seat in both the government's and Consumer Reports crash testing (it does much better than the Pipa) and won't have the installation issue you've encountered.

[@annalewis853]

@@thecarseatlady1 thanks for the reply. Is it unsafe to use as is or can I put the recline bar down for more stability? Unfortunately non returnable once opened is my understanding.

[@thecarseatlady1]

We would suggest using the recline foot - as we show in the video. You could consider selling the seat - like on Facebook marketplace or a parent message board in your area (as since the seat hasn't even been used it is fine to sell to someone else).

[@rbmads5619]

I wish the example was a center install since it Is always preferable to be in the center position assuming it is available and the base fits. But this video says you wd not use lower anchors which seems to be a more secure install than using belts

[@thomasmatthew9515]

Dr. Baer, do you have a tutorial on attaching the Nuna Pipa base using only the seatbelt? I am interested in center mounting for added safety, but my car (current gen 3-series) is part of the 95% without center LATCH. Thanks!

[@thecarseatlady1]

We do not have a video for this as the recommended installation for the Pipa is one that uses all the safety features of this seat - which is rigid LATCH + load leg (as we show in this video). The studies that showed the center was slightly safer were done without car seats that featured rigid LATCH + load leg - and these two features significantly enhance the protection for the child. We would recommend installing the seat on one of the sides using rigid LATCH + load leg.

[@TheKeady]

Hi! I’m installing this seat in a 2017 grand Cherokee (behind passenger seat) using load leg and latch. I’m having trouble getting the bubble more towards the back of the car rather than closer to front - even using recline bar. I’m due in 3 weeks so trying to install it for a newborn. Any tips?

[@thecarseatlady1]

In this vehicle it sits a little more upright than in some other cars. So long as the bubble touches the line you are ok.

[@katherinekruger8171]

Does the Nuna Pipa base or the nuna relx base fit in a 2013 Toyota highlander? Does anyone know?

[@shajeeeq]

How do you put the load leg back

[@nchavoshi]

I have a new Audi Q7 which is an SUV that has exposed anchors for car seat installation (they are not tucked hidden in the seat like most other cars where you have to find the anchors with your hands). I purchased the Nuna Pipa infant car seat and when I anchor the car seat in (the safety indicators turn green), I've noticed that the base wiggles side to side - at just about an inch. When I fit this car seat in a car with tucked in anchors, the base does not move at all. I took it to car seat installation experts and they said that they hadn't seen this combination before and to their experience, the car seat base should be super tight. I can't use the seat belt as an option because the stitching is too thick right where it locks in and it won't lock properly. I really don't know what to do. I've tried looking online to see if these exposed anchors results in more car seat wiggle. From a physics stand point, it makes sense because the anchors are not tucked in like other cars, but how much wiggle is too much? Many thanks for your help.

[@thecarseatlady1]

This is very normal in the 2017 & newer Audi Q7 with the Nuna Pipa (it can also be seen with the Clek Liing which also uses rigid LATCH to connect to the lower anchors) - and is totally safe. The lower anchor bars are slightly wider (about an inch) than the lower anchor connectors on your Pipa. There is about an inch of lateral movement because of this - and it is not a concern. Make sure you are using the recline foot and the load leg on your Pipa as well. Your Pipa fits nicely in the center seat of your Q7 or the side seats.

[@gabrielhaller9862]

I have the same issue on my new 2020 Odyssey! I spent 3 hours trying to figure this out. It does not fit with the standard seatbelts installation due to the new stitching and the rigid latch is exposed and larger than my previous vehicle- it mo moves about an inch. This is okay? Its making me so nervous!

[@user-hj2mb6nr5h]

Isn't the stability leg suppose to lock up in place? Mine doesn't. It extends when I lift the carseat/base WITHOUT pressing the leg adjust button. It cannot go down without pressing the button, but it extends.

[@louiejct]

Do you need to use to rigid latch that came with the car seat?

[@thecarseatlady1]

The Pipa base is optimized for an installation with rigid LATCH and load leg - and since the rigid LATCH is a key safety feature that is not found on other seats (the rigid LATCH holds the car seat more tightly to the vehicle than a seat belt or latch belt can - which keeps your baby safer in a crash) we would very strongly recommend using it. In the majority of vehicles the Pipa base will not install securely with the seat belt - so for this reason as well we'd recommend using the rigid LATCH + load leg installation you see in this video whenever you have a Pipa base.

[@ershaffer711]

Is it fine to also use the seat belt along with the LATCH system? What do you do if you do not have the LATCH system in the middle seat? Is it better install the base on either the passenger of driver's side, or to use the seat belt in the middle seat for install?

[@thecarseatlady1]

Best to use this seat with the rigid LATCH + load leg (as shown in the video) - which in most cars requires installation on one of the side seats. You do not need to use the seat belt along with the rigid LATCH - just install as shown in the video.

[@marthafelix4905]

I have a 2013 Nissan rouge sport and I bought the Nuna pipa lite lx. Will this car seat work in my car? Thanks!

[@AlisaBaer]

It will likely take up more room into your front seat than you'll want (as the Pipa takes up a lot of room, and you have a small car). The Clek Liing would be a much better option - it has the same ease of installation features, takes up about 2 inches less room into the front seat than the Pipa, and has straps that don't twist on the baby (Pipa straps twist a fair amount) and will fit a newborn better than a Pipa as the infant insert is better designed.

[@jillvincent92]

Have you successfully installed this car seat in a honda civic? I ordered the seat but am a little worried i wont be able to install properly as far as recline and the load leg, the store said i can not return if the box is opened.

[@thecarseatlady1]

We'd suggest exchanging for the Clek Liing -it will take up less room into the front seat than the Pipa (really important in a small car like the Civic) and will definitely install properly with the rigid LATCH + load leg on either side in your Civic and achieve the proper recline (this is done after installation on the Liing). thecarseatlady.com/latch-for-rear-facing-only-infant-seats/

[@traveleepers2947]

Can I use the rigid latch system and the seatbelt at the same time or I need to just use one? Thank you.

[@thecarseatlady1]

Nuna allows the use of both at the same time on the Pipa base. However, adding the seat belt doesn't enhance the installation with the rigid LATCH... so I'd recommend keeping it simple and just using the rigid LATCH + load leg as shown in the video.

[@traveleepers2947]

The Car Seat Lady thank you for responding

[@brittanyn4235]

1:10 hi Car seat Lady, so when you mention that some cars will strangely be MORE reclined with the recline foot tucked in, any chance if a BMW X3 is included in that? I pulled out the recline leg, plugged in the latches into the anchors and adjusted the load leg, and the bubble is NOT touching the line. One of the latches is now stuck so i cant fix it. Not sure what to do considering i’m due in 12 days 😭

[@thecarseatlady1]

Please book a virtual consultation with us - thecarseatlady.com/services - so we can help you get your baby riding safely in your X3

[@kennyzheng4573]

Hello, my car is a 2018 BMW 4 series and it has very sloped backseat and the latch anchors are also very low in the seat. As a result when latch installed without the recline adjustment foot, the air bubble only barely touching the line meaning it might be too upright for the new born. I've inserted a folded towel under the back of the base close to the seat which only helped a little bit of the recline. While I tried to latch install with the recline foot extended, since the latch anchor is way too low in the backseat, even when I managed to successfully connect the latch, the backseat is practically pushing the recline foot up and as a result instead of making the base more reclined, the base is now actually much more inclined and it just wouldn't work. It's as if the front of the base is being tilted up as a downward pressure is applied to the back of the base. The only way I can get a good recline is to using seatbelt install instead of latch, and with the recline foot extended. But this way it loses the benefit of the rigorous latch. What should I do? Use latch install with towel underneath and live with the bubble only barely touching the line, or using seatbelt install for a perfect recline, at least until the baby is bigger and has more neck support on his own? Thank you!

[@thecarseatlady1]

I know exactly what you are describing. Sometimes the vehicle and car seat are not the right combo. I would recommend exchanging for the Clek Liing car seat - which also has rigid LATCH (this time it is fully rigid - so it won't lift your base up as you are finding with Pipa) and a load leg and fits on almost all the same strollers as Pipa.

[@mmaglaya33]

what is safer install, center position with seatbelt, our side position with latch?

[@thecarseatlady1]

The Pipa base typically does not install securely with the seat belt (which is how it must be installed in the center of most cars). We recommend using the rigid LATCH + load leg to install the PIpa, which usually requires an installation on one of the side seats.

[@aarons3332]

I have a 2019 bmw 5 series. The baby seat is not flush with the back seat. If I pull on the front of the seat, I can move it up and down. Normal?

[@thecarseatlady1]

It is often normal for the Pipa... but is not ideal. I'd recommend exchanging your Pipa for the Clek Liing - which will fit on most of the same strollers and the Liing outperforms every other infant seat in the US in crash testing (it does MUCH better than the Pipa). Check out thecarseatlady.com/recommended-infant-seats/

[@CamiloReinaR]

How would you install it on a 2019 Ford explorer with inflatable seatbelts? I might even really install it without the base.

[@thecarseatlady1]

You must install it with the base using rigid LATCH + load leg in a position with inflatable seat belts.

[@TPIOo27]

I'm having trouble with my 2014 Ford Fusion as well. There isn't enough room to get the base through the leather to the latch.

[@thecarseatlady1]

@@TPIOo27 There is enough room - just hold firmly on the lower anchor connectors (keeping them at the proper angle to meet the vehicle's lower anchors) and shove HARD with your legs

[@TPIOo27]

The Car Seat Lady I just needed to use a bit of force with my legs. Thank you!

[@thecarseatlady1]

@@TPIOo27 Glad you got it in! Safe travels with your new baby!

[@jacquelynpost8162]

Sorry if this was already answered but does the gray bottom recline feature need to be out for newborns/smaller babies?

[@thecarseatlady1]

In my experience, the fit is best in 99% of vehicles when using the recline foot.

[@jacquelynpost8162]

Thank you so much for the response . I have a 2008 328i BMW and I re-installed it with the gray recliner piece out but the bubble moved from the line closer to the front of the car vs the back like suggested in the video for newborns that need more of a recline since they cannot support themselves. Whether the recline is in or out I cannot get the bubble to go closer to the back of the car. Is this just my car from your experience?

[@thecarseatlady1]

@@jacquelynpost8162 We'd love to help you troubleshoot and make sure your baby is safe. Please schedule a consultation with us here - thecarseatlady.com/services (some of the 60 minutes of the phone consultation may be used for a Zoom call to check the installation of the seat).

[@buroakridgehomestead5995]

I’m trying to make this car seat and base work in a 2015 or newer Toyota Sienna. The seat base is very steep and we’re told that it’s due to the fact the seats are anti whiplash. With the base being so steep, I can’t figure out a way to level it better. We have dropped the kickstand down that is towards the seat crack, but it doesn’t seem to help. Any advice? Thanks!

[@thecarseatlady1]

I've successfully installed the Pipa in the Sienna of your model year range (in one of the 2nd row captain's chairs) using the lower anchors + load leg as shown in this video and while I know what you are talking about - i.e. that the Sienna's seats have a very sharp downward slope - the bubble was nonetheless touching the black line on the Pipa base (meaning it was properly reclined).

[@jujukim2424]

@@thecarseatlady1 I have the same problem in our Toyota Sienna 2012! Help! I've tried every way in the second row captain's chair and it's still very steep and the bubble isn't touching the black line. I had no problem in our 2011 Highlander. I really love this car seat and we have to be able to take our baby in both cars. Any suggestions to get it more level? I don't want to have to return it! Thank you!

[@AlisaBaer]

@@jujukim2424 The sienna has a VERY sloped vehicle seat. You should return the Pipa for a Clek Liing -it has the rigid LATCH and load leg AND allows for a proper recline angle in the Sienna (the Liing adjusts the reclin after installation and has 7 recline positions on the base).

[@jujukim2424]

Alisa Baer I really don’t want to return because we have the travel system (stroller and car seat) and love it. It works just fine in my highlander but not my husband’s sienna. And we need both cars to be able to use this car seat. There must be a work around???

[@nikkipool2825]

The base front (where the latches are) is not against the back rest of the car seat. Is this normal? I drive a 2019 Nissan Armada

[@thecarseatlady1]

It is common with the Pipa to find this. However, it is best to have a car seat that is tight against the vehicle's seat back. We'd recommend the Clek Liing instead - thecarseatlady.com/recommended-infant-seats/

[@kaileywaite6560]

Is it ok to install without the rigid latch and just the seat belt and leg support? My car doesn’t have anchor hooks..

[@thecarseatlady1]

What is the year, make, model of the vehicle?

[@andydtran23]

@@thecarseatlady1 I have an Volvo xc-40 and my rigid latch doesn’t fit. Can I just use the seatbelt with the leg option only?

[@TheGoodM0D]

And middle seat?

[@ggsdude1]

My neighbours didnt come with a load leg, we are in canada and the car seat base keeps flopping around no matter how tight we pull the car seatelt...what are we doing wrong?

[@thecarseatlady1]

The canadian Pipa does not have a load leg. I would recommend getting a Clek Liing - which is the safest rear-facing car seat in the US and Canada as it outperforms every other rear-facing seat in the US government's and Consumer Reports' crash testing - and has true rigid LATCH and a load leg. The Liing will not budge once installed. And... Clek is a family-owned company in Toronto - so you are supporting Canada!

[@CamiloReinaR]

I have a 2018 BMW X3 and I can't seem to make it level with the Isofix anchors.

[@thecarseatlady1]

I have installed the Pipa in the 18 X3 exactly as I show in this video and it works nicely. The bubble just has to touch the black level line, it doesn't need to be centered on the line.

[@CamiloReinaR]

@@thecarseatlady1 thanks! It's just on the bubble edge. Im guessing with the baby weight would be a little bit more centered.

[@thecarseatlady1]

@@CamiloReinaR The bubble doesn't need to be centered - in fact, the closer the bubble is to the back of the car, the more reclined the baby is which is ideal for a newborn who can't sit upright unsupported yet.

[@kelsieb9385]

What if my vehicle doesn’t have anchors

[@juanez8]

Does the Load leg lock to where it doesn't keep extending?

[@jessicag1128]

Juan Sanchez Same question

[@thecarseatlady1]

If you lift up on the base, the load leg will keep extending (we wish Nuna had it lock in both directions). If you are looking for a seat with a load leg that locks in both directions, the Clek Liing is a great choice - thecarseatlady.com/loadleg

[@joshuasadownik7319]

@@thecarseatlady1 the base can rotate up even with the Latch and seatbelt in place. Is that safe?

[@aspenmorris7225]

Did you ever get an answer to this question??

[@baileymatlock9346]

Once the seat is in the base, it wobbles side to side a little. Is this normal? Also can you not also use the belt as an added security alone with the patch and load leg?

[@thecarseatlady1]

Yes, this slight wiggle of the carrier in the base is normal. As noted in the Pipa instruction manual, you can thread the vehicle's seat belt through the belt path on the base and lock it into the blue belt guide if you would like (in addition to using the rigid LATCH + load leg) - but this is unnecessary and doesn't add any extra protection or stability as rigid LATCH is a tighter hold than a belt.

[@baileymatlock9346]

@@thecarseatlady1 Thank you!

[@drivel111]

Hi, I installed this on my 2018 toyota camry and the one question i have is it seems like the rigid latch system moves up and down? So it's attached and secure, but i can move the car seat sort of forward and backward because of the way the rigid latch system connecters on the seat swivels up and down. Is that a problem?

[@thecarseatlady1]

This is normal with the Pipa as it is technically semi-rigid LATCH (due to the connectors' ability to rotate up/down). On a seat with truly rigid LATCH (like a Clek Liing) there is not this up/down movement.

[@drivel111]

@@thecarseatlady1 thanks for the swift reply! I will be able to sleep at night now :)

[@lumineerproductions585]

This was truly fantastic. The paper instructions for this product are criminally bad.

[@sarahliztyler115]

Thank you!