Installing AWT Scales on the Manix 2! Disassembly & Scale Swap

[@richardvirchow3390]

Nice looking scales. Nice looking knife. I love videos that include disassembly and reassembly.

[@mikaelforsehag1851]

Remove scale,remove liner and lanyardtube on one side clean and lube . Mount new scale then turn over and repeat after mounting the standoff.10 min and done,unless you change to aftermarket lockcage and ball.

[@christophermurray9216]

I was lost trying to swap out for awt scales. It was the assembly sequence that was hanging me up. But, now I am found thanks to your video!

[@doodysdaggers]

Right on man I’m glad! That tripped me up the first few times too. But once you know you know! 🤠

[@gabesaenz9837]

Thanks for this, I’ve watched a few of these disassembly videos but this is the best. I’ll be ready to change my scales for sure now!

[@ths630]

that mirror edge looks insane

[@nickGEdc]

This is going to be extremely helpful when I put my scales on thanks man!

[@doodysdaggers]

No problem! The main thing is, when reassembling, blade on first, then the ball cage mechanism 😉

[@nickGEdc]

@@doodysdaggers I wrote it down for a memory refresher 😂

[@doodysdaggers]

@@nickGEdc great idea, I should have done that from the beginning. It took me three or four times taking it apart for me to remember 😂

[@just_nate_8694]

Manix 2, the most recommended knife of all time! I will have one someday.

[@doodysdaggers]

Pretty much yeah!! I’d say it may be one of the best knives ever

[@_MiMo_]

Next time you have it apart, check for blade warp with a flat edge. The harder steel runs like Maxamet etc produced factory seconds due to warped blades.

[@doodysdaggers]

Ah okay, so it’s common. Interesting

[@kevindeuschle3413]

@@doodysdaggersever so slight warp in my k390 endura wharnie makes it not centered. could likely be fixed with a carbide tipped hammer and a few gentle taps, but I haven't made one, and don't care that much.

[@agilewolf]

yup got a factory 2nd PM and knew that was the reason it was a 2nd...bcuz otherwise perfect...still works great

[@Jayscott75]

Are you sure the pivot is fully seated on the captive side since you laid that scale on last? I usually start reassembly on that side to make sure. 🤷‍♂️

[@pbrian9527]

Good video and thinking of doing the same. Did you really have to fully disassemble? Could you just remove the scale and liner from one side and then put on the new one? Flip over and do the other?

[@doodysdaggers]

It has to come totally apart I think. But you could try doing one side then the other! I think because it’s a captured pivot it has to come all the way apart

[@BluetoothBlades]

My manix was the same way, what I did to solve the issue was to hold the knife blade up, tip towards me in the closed position, push the blade to the right with the left thumb near the tip holding it through out the whole process, loosen all the screws in a counter clockwise direction starting with the bottom right side screw keeping pressure on the blade...now tighten the screws in the same counter clockwise direction...repeat this again while still maintaining pressure on the blade. What this does is aligns the pivot with the tip of the blade by slightly shifting the scales. If this does not work then the blade is truly bent. Hope this helps Kevin.

[@doodysdaggers]

I’ve tried that. I’ve tried literally everything. Scoured the internet for answers and tried everything I could find. It’s gotta be the blade is slightly warped, that’s the only thing I can thing of at this point. I just let it go. Haha 🤷🏻‍♂️ Thanks buddy!

[@BluetoothBlades]

Ok, got you.

[@petebec]

​@@doodysdaggersMy cruwear blade has never been centered, so I'm not expecting miracles when I get my scales tomorrow! But if your blade was centered with your old scales, then you'd think it would be possible. I guess the liners probably allow for more adjustment.

[@RevolvingBlades69]

Great looking scales. Going to give it a try. Your blade looks bent near end. This will help a ton!

[@troyzuber5739]

In my experience with an off center blade when closed, I've always been able to fix it by opening the knife, and hold it like ur trying to break it in half, then flex it in the direction the blade is closer to the liner. If it doesn't work, try loosening all the screws a tiny bit, flexing it, and tightening the screws while still applying pressure. If u need to loosen the screws, it's easier if u put the blade in a vice so u have a hand to tighten the screws. Hope this helps. (This shoukd work as long as it's not the blade that is warped)

[@agilewolf]

beautiful scales. waiting on a blem set in that color- edc/work (just to save some money knowing it'll just be a color issue). great lightweight setup. I had same offset / off center and just reassembled several times and it was fine....weird.

[@oliverwoehrmann5992]

Those are nice scales, but I'm on the fence if I want aluminum. Love the color. Not sure if this works on Spyderco, but keeping the body screws loose until you tighten the pivot has worked for me on other knives to get a better center.

[@doodysdaggers]

The aluminum feels great to me, but some people prefer micarta or something else. I have tried all kinds of tightening combinations, nothing works. I think it’s the blade itself that’s bent

[@vapingrandpa]

Looks nice man. Sucks about the centering. My Manix and AWT scales should be here tomorrow!

[@michaelsantoro170]

Are those factory liners? I know for a while, manix 2s did not have drilled liners, is this an updated manix 2?

[@doodysdaggers]

They’re the ones that came with it, I dunno 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@petervu9773]

that blue is nice, modding my manix 2 as soon as it comes in.

[@bigjim55able]

These look good. I have the XL that could use a bit of weight reduction. I'll also upgrade the ball cage to titanium

[@doodysdaggers]

It’s a great upgrade and makes the knife feel better too 😉

[@tgonzalez1983]

Been thinking about getting these. How have the scales held up? Any issues? I like these better than original goat versions

[@doodysdaggers]

They’ve held up amazingly!! Highly recommend. I have AWT scales on five of my Spydercos

[@gimparoo1962]

Nice work! Looks great with new scales… probably the blade being your issue. 🤷🏼‍♂️ Thanks for sharing! Have a great day Doody!

[@doodysdaggers]

Thanks! You too Mark, happy Monday!

[@isthebeeflol]

My crucarta pm2 was off center and i just forcefully bent it lol guessing it was liners tho.

[@doodysdaggers]

Haha that’s one way to do it!

[@isthebeeflol]

@@doodysdaggers I thought it was crazy but seriously try it found it in a spyderco forum

[@corporalpunish6089]

Thanks for the video. Quick question... what brand cork work mat? I like it. Also comment... like you ran into here, i have found the hardest part of reassembly is that it always takes me awhile to play around and get all the torqueing correct. Kind of like doing scope rings and how easy it is to throw off a point of aim. When i did this the first couple of times, i would loosen up those pivot screws and then be bummed by the screws being loose. Then it dawned on me, duh, tighten the back spacer screws to put more tension on the front. Same thing with centering. I realized that of it was off to the right, i had to tighten it to the right. Its like a mini lesson in geometry and patience everytime i do this.

[@doodysdaggers]

The mat is from a site called Tinkerforce. Really cheap and quality disassembly mats. Yes there is a lot of tinkering when it comes to getting a knife with good action and no blade play 😁

[@ElCapAddict]

What would you want for the old stock liners and G10 scales (I have the LW version with CQI hardware that’s removable-trying to put together the necessary pieces to upgrade the handle to the stock/regular configuration). Was that a second-maybe why it isn’t straight/centered? Thanks Doody

[@doodysdaggers]

Nope it wasn’t a second. It’s gotta be the blade itself that’s tweaked. Hmm.. I supposed I could sell my liners and g10 scales. I’m trying to think if there’s any reason I would want them someday. I dunno, what’s a fair price?

[@hayden1590]

If you don’t know already, the ball cage housing/blade stop is different in the LW models.

[@ElCapAddict]

@@hayden1590 No, I wasn’t aware of that (I was going to take mine apart tonight and compare it to the internals of the video). I thought the only thing I’d have to get beyond the scales/liners would be an aftermarket set of screws. Thanks for the info. Hopefully AWT will make a set for the Manix 2 LW (they make them for the Para3 LW so hopefully they’ll get around to it)…

[@NiclasGudmundsson]

Nice one !! those scales are looking badass. have you loosened the screws a bit to see if it centers a little better ?

[@doodysdaggers]

Yeah I’ve messed with it, doesn’t do much

[@joemurphy5511]

What’s the name on the colour of those scales.

[@doodysdaggers]

Cobalt Blue I believe

[@joemurphy5511]

@@doodysdaggers ok. Thanks a lot.

[@jesustheyrealltaken]

that went pretty smooth

[@doodysdaggers]

Not too bad!

[@MikeJ602]

Morning Dood! When I hit my washers I did it on a ceramic plate instead of a strop. It seemed to work well but I think I’ve only seen one person do it like that. Is the strop a better idea for washers than ceramic?

[@doodysdaggers]

I’ve never heard of anyone doing it on ceramic. I’d imagine it would work, but I think with a strop you’ll get a better polish

[@Graham_Rob]

I’m thinking of buying a Manix and some standard Ti scales to swap out. Would I be able to do a swap with a light weight? Do the LW versions have liners in them?

[@doodysdaggers]

I don’t believe you can do scale swaps with the lightweight versions

[@Graham_Rob]

Yep I found out they have riveting too haha so not gonna happen

[@devin2355]

@@Graham_Robany lightweight made within the last year or so has screws, no more rivets

[@R.C.Bullar]

Where were you able to pick this set up?

[@doodysdaggers]

From Applied Weapons Tech website. AWT

[@R.C.Bullar]

THanks! @@doodysdaggers

[@DoubleDetent]

When I get my seconds delivered and my manix s110v is good I will be replacing the scales and ball cage. It will be my first time disassembling a manix or dealing with any Spyderco lanyard tube, I'm not really looking forward to it 😅

[@doodysdaggers]

Nice!! You got it man. Just follow the instructions. And remember when you are reassembling, the blade goes in first before the ball cage lock mechanism 😉

[@madserdal336]

If they replace the liners, would they fit the screw construction lw?

[@doodysdaggers]

I’m not sure.. it should say on their website

[@piipii55]

Great scale .. I liked the blue color, is it cerakote or anodized?

[@doodysdaggers]

Cerakote from AWT

[@jimshort9266]

I just looked at the website and Cobalt Blue does look like the color you have but it is a Type II hard anodizing. They say the Type III is the hardest coating they offer but colors may not be consistent. They don’t mention anything about the coloring or hardness of the Type II. They do say that the Cerakoted options have exact color throughout. The Blue Titanium color in Cerakote would have given you the color you probably were expecting. I don’t know how Cerakote compares in toughness to the Type II hard anodizing though.

[@JohnBaker189]

that blade is definatly bent! i can see it on the vid when you were looking down the blade.those scales look awesome though! i have the lightweight (old version) and would love to drill out the rivits and put better scales on.

[@bryand2978]

Is this the xl manix model? Blade looks big

[@doodysdaggers]

No, the regular Manix

[@chasehildebrant9453]

Will these work with the new light weight model? The new light weight got rid of the rivets.

[@doodysdaggers]

I don’t think so, no. But AWT and OG Goat are working on compatible scales. So soon there will be some available

[@ting280]

tried reassembling my FRN a bunch of times. now it clicks and I'm bleeding. videos like this are necessary.

[@dkabbash]

That corkboard is awesome. Can you Amazon that?

[@doodysdaggers]

Tinkerforce.com

[@BluetoothBlades]

Hey bud...I've been racking my brain and the only thing I can think of is that one of the washers could be slightly thinner than the other one...hope this helps.

[@doodysdaggers]

I actually switched the washers with each other, and it was still off center to the same side!

[@81ghale]

I always start with the “D” shaped side of the knife when putting them back together. That way it’s already locked in from the beginning.

[@tungadilla]

which lube do you use here and do you recommend it?

[@doodysdaggers]

I was using TuffGlide in this video but now I use KPL. Both are great, I don’t notice a huge difference between the two

[@tungadilla]

@@doodysdaggers thanks bro how about that cool work mat thing you got under your work station

[@Quagmire925]

I had the same off center issue with a PM2 kev. I gave it a gentle tweek in the vice! 😂

[@doodysdaggers]

Oh shit that’s scary! Haha Did it work?

[@Quagmire925]

Yeah it did work. It was slightly warped near the tip. I just took it very slowly. It was an S30V PM2. I wouldn’t take the same chance with a rare 15v manix though!

[@doodysdaggers]

@@Quagmire925 haha yeah I don’t think I’m gonna try that. I did it with a fixed blade I was making a while back and it snapped

[@danpennella]

Looks excellent! These have been on my radar for a while now for my manix, but mine is centered with the stock scales so I’m hoping when I do the swap it stays that way! This video will definitely help me get the job done so I thank you for that ahead of time!

[@doodysdaggers]

If it’s centered now it should definitely be centered with the new scales. 🤠

[@mrmeek1331]

This helped me. Because whenever scales are replaced there's a chance the blade may need to be recentered. kzbin.info/www/bejne/d6e6opx-mNp-nZosi=lT819hITp983UP0H

[@croatialives]

You have a warped blade if you use the side of your ruler and check both sides if the blade i bet you find a slight warp

[@S7ORM3X]

I would've got the rockscale ones but i never got out the barrel on my manix 😂

[@doodysdaggers]

Haha it’s really tough!

[@murdergorilla4087]

I have 2 pm2s that will not center no mater what scales or liners i use on em a cru-wear and an m4 blade just live with it i guess

[@doodysdaggers]

That sucks, yeah I think it’s the blade itself that’s actually bent slightly

[@bamabladez]

Bro we are brothers from another mother. 😂 I just also got Awt manix2 scales. Got the violet purple to go with my black blade. They are so damn good I want some for my para 3. Blue looks sick but that sucks about the rattle. Mine are rock solid and centered. You might want to send back. I also installed flytanium aluminum ball cage. Hope u get it worked out.

[@doodysdaggers]

Very nice! That’s weird yours doesn’t rattle. You got the stock plastic ball cage in there? But yeah aside from that I love these scales. The action improved drastically!

[@bamabladez]

@@doodysdaggers no I bought a flytanium aluminum cage. I did have a little grittyness and took it back apart and polished the touch points where the cage rides and polished the washers and it is smooth as butter.

[@darynschultz]

Would you be interested in selling the old manix liners and scales ?

[@doodysdaggers]

No, I actually recently changed the scales to ones that required the liners

[@allfather885]

If it’s your first time doing this, I HIGHLY recommend taping your knife blade before starting. This is going to prevent you from mangling your hand up!!

[@MangoIceCream381]

Read my mind; this is exactly my plan for my seconds pickup

[@Kurse19]

The idea of dofferent scales centering a blade is wild.

[@Trolldaddy5]

Swap the washers to the other sides and itl probably center the blade

[@doodysdaggers]

Tried it.. I came to the conclusion that the blade is warped

[@sebastianromero113]

Blade it self, can be off as well.

[@doodysdaggers]

Yeah that’s gotta be it

[@sebastianromero113]

Spyderco can be good, but still its just production knife after all.@@doodysdaggers

[@Dissentient01]

Could you peen the cage, to get rid of the rattle?

[@doodysdaggers]

Hmm, maybe

[@ReapersEDC]

Could be ceramic ball bearing. I went back to original ball bearing and can’t complain

[@jordanwright5289]

Spyderco uses phosphor bronze washers.... No bearings...

[@flipflat4814]

Are you the first person in the world to disassemble a manix in a vehicle 🤔? I'm going to say yes, unless someone else says otherwise 🤷😂.

[@doodysdaggers]

I think I am! Nobody else has had the courage. 😉

[@flipflat4814]

​@@doodysdaggers👍😂

[@iLLBuddy]

Just take some 1000 grit to the one washers. Pretty easy fix Dood.

[@dstone9748]

Great video Dood. The knife looks great. Respect. D p.s. as for that centering issue, you are going to have to take the tang of the blade to a lapping stone. Just a pass or two per side. Btw I fuckin HATE the way that clip sticks up past the butt of the knife.

[@doodysdaggers]

Ah yeah good idea. Sounds like more trouble than it’s worth though, I can live with it being off center. That’s interesting you don’t like the clip that way, for me it’s great. Super deep carry. To each their own! 🤠

[@dstone9748]

@@doodysdaggers yeah the clip sticking out further than the end of the scale makes my OCD very angry

[@Mike-mi3yw]

I have AWT scales for my para3 lightweight. They aren’t my favorite however they are a significant improvement over the lw scales. Pretty happy overall, I just like the feel of the peel ply g10 better

[@andyhayward1261]

My AWT scales improved everything about my Manix 2, so much lighter, better action and lockup. Fantastic scales. That’s super weird that your cage is rattling! I don’t have any hint of rattle, that would bug the shit outta me!

[@doodysdaggers]

Okay that’s so weird! I’ve tried both the stock cage and my titanium scale from flytanium, both rattle

[@Hectorszenshopedc]

❤❤❤❤🎉😮😊

[@andrewfett142]

👍🏼

[@2212mjm]

Loosen the body screws a bit

[@2212mjm]

Maybe I should’ve watched the whole video first lol

[@doodysdaggers]

😉😂

[@vinniescala4870]

Dood, one of the last views in the car when youre looking down on it with the blade open, it looks like the blade is slightly bent.

[@doodysdaggers]

Oh yeah? Hmm. I can’t tell if it’s an optical illusion or something, but yeah it kinda looks tweaked to me too

[@tj-kv6vr]

i will pass on those

[@DB.KOOPER]

How do you have a "knife channel" and not know how to center a folding knife blade??? It's real easy...

[@doodysdaggers]

I’ve tried all the tricks, believe me

[@ryandye6242]

First!!!!

[@doodysdaggers]

Damn! ⭐️

[@jordanwright5289]

Buy a new set of washers

[@doodysdaggers]

Good idea