Installing Laminate/ Luxury Vinyl under door jambs and going into different rooms

[@OBFTILE]

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[@gracesuchan62]

What color is this??

[@nathanrose9609]

I like the little plainer idea.. I use the back edge of my utility knife.. I think I'll upgrade to a little plainer.. Thanks for the trick

[@carolinatowner1298]

How to lay the planks in reverse after you are thru the door

[@atifmehuddin3189]

Maybe you could giveaway the lip that was cut off

[@OBFTILE]

@@atifmehuddin3189 hahaha good idea

[@philiplund5512]

I am going from a small furnace room to a laundry room and this piece under a door jam has held me up. I have tried tapping to no avail looked at multiple videos. I did not want to leave the small gap as it is right in the middle of the space. The flooring is absolutely beautiful and high end.... so angling is the only way to LOCK it in. This was a great idea and the rest of the floor is going in perfectly so it will be locked tight right to left and front to back. LOVE your trick! very small space 180" x 90". THANK YOU

[@ZoeEveArt]

Products like Supercore flooring and Mannington Adura Max have instructions to shave down the profile little by little until you get it to where you can slide the lock together in addition to using "seam sealer" to permanently bond that area together. It works great! Great video.

[@petepistachio8229]

Is this THAT product? Because this isn’t the case with 99% of other laminated flooring. You can’t make a general statement about a specific flooring. Video done in poor taste. Thumbs down.

[@afterstars]

@@petepistachio8229it’s not rocket science

[@lauriescott8364]

MANY THANKS for this wonderful video. We were totally STUCK until we saw it!! You saved our flooring project!! Keep up the great work!

[@jimbob7939]

Man some people just don’t know what there talking about. This is exactly what I do on some products as not all of them are the same. Some have to be planed down just like you showed, others just tap right in. One tip though is you really only need to plane about 10 inches next to the casing because you can still angle the remaining part to lock it in as usual

[@SamiDurm]

I never remove the lip. All you had to do was, tap the board into place with a tapping block.

[@jdaleb]

You cant get under your undercut that way. At least not enough. He was good.

[@jasonzupke1474]

There are ways of getting it in without removing the lip. These gluing techniques are untested over time. Who knows if the pieces might pop up over time.

[@jazzamoartlestrade1458]

@@jdaleb the tapping block works opposite of the pull bar. Therefore the undercut is irrelevant.

[@joelgould7409]

I totally agree, ive been doing this way for 6 years and not one problem lifting one end and tapping it in is simple and easy lock without taking off the lip.

[@jasonzupke1474]

@@joelgould7409 Tapping it does take patience, and being careful of the lips, and not damaging the edges. I try not to go under the door jams too much so I don’t have to tap it in so much.

[@jenniferPruski-bg3un]

Thank you. First time installer. I got stuck at the door jam and couldn't get it connected. You gave me the solution. Again, thank you!

[@MrYoucandoityourself]

Hi, Maybe this idea works for you but I would connect two boards under the door frame. In this case, you don't need to cut off the lock. Anyway, it's good when you share your experience. Thanks.

[@19993gt]

Your giving out gold with that small plainer!

[@koubasaki]

I watched a flooring installer to the same thing but i managed to mate the flooring once under a door jam by just tapping the end in with a block and hammer.

[@simonriddick]

I did my whole house with laminate and removing the locking system is key in some very tight areas. I don't know of any other way in some tight spots. I had a closet to the left of me door in front of me and door to the right of me. It was really complicated to get everything to fit under the jambs and with a lock it would have been impossible.

[@gldnrlygldn1320]

Then you did it wrong

[@bigteddybear012001]

You do not have to remove the lip.

[@ezequielmaciasgonzalez744]

Correct

[@markme4]

How do you get the boards to lock in that situation ?

[@GustavoAndresHerrera]

You persuade it with a hammer using a spare piece in the middle to avoid screwing the lip

[@gldnrlygldn1320]

@@markme4 use a flooring block and a rubber mallet to lock it in.

[@markcleary9169]

@@markme4 You DO have to remove the lip if you're trying to install the same kind of laminate that I'm currently laying. It CAN'T be locked together except by angling it in to the next piece. Both lengthwise and on the ends. It's actually DESIGNED to require a transition at the doorways. It is NOT a user friendly flooring. If it's a high quality floor, you can "persuade" the pieces together without tilting, but if it's a low end laminate, depending on the design, you're stuck cutting off the locking mechanism on the tongue.

[@mikelovelace6219]

If your dead set on removing the lip, why don't you just remove the inch needed at the door jam ? This would leave the bulk of the lip in place and the integrity of the joint requires no glue

[@donnieray459]

exactly 90 percent joint is better than none

[@margaret1759]

Thank you so much for this video!!!! You completely saved our installation with this.

[@MrRazor99]

Sorry but I strongly disagree with removing the lip. I've been an installer for 25 years, and feel that there's better ways than compromising your joint, especially on such a large run.

[@OBFTILE]

MrRazor99 tag me when you make a video of “better ways to compromise your laminate joint under door jambs”

[@leearnold0911]

Seriously... I install thousands of square feet of this stuff per year, and I've never cut the lip off of any flooring. Under jambs, I use a small pry bar inserted under the flooring to get my angle correct for locking the tongue and groove. Only time I'll compromise the locking mechanism is when I'm doing a single board replacement in the middle of the room. Your way "works", but it is definitely not necessary.

[@MrRazor99]

@@OBFTILE and here I was trying to say it in a nice way. I think someone's pride got hurt a bit.

[@MrRazor99]

@@leearnold0911 I totally agree with you. I was trying to say it in a nice way but I guess some people just are too prideful to listen to those who have been around the block a time or two.

[@leearnold0911]

@@MrRazor99 yep. I'm a young guy, but recently worked with a guy who's been in the business over 25 years. At the end of the day he said, "I just want to thank you because I actually learned a few new tricks today". It made me feel good.... I'm not the best, but I try to work smarter, not harder. Every little trick you pick up saves hours Iver the course of the year.

[@lynnezellhoefer5871]

You made that understandable without rambling! Thank you for the info! Quick and to the point but still understandable for anybody at any level.

[@greenreaper1985]

I just don't understand why so many experts are watching this video?

[@OBFTILE]

Paul Davis i would love to see their videos

[@britaniaduran3080]

Because they don't have anything productive to do.

[@williambutler3695]

Because seeing more techniques can make you better yourself. Picking up a small tip or or there. Maybe we’ll learn a new way to approach a problem that we didn’t think of before. It’s continuing education.

[@zowie8888able]

Even experts should always be on the lookout for a better way to do something, though I don't think cutting the groove is necessary for most products

[@petepistachio8229]

Mr B's Life I’m too busy making money and not vain enough to video everything I do. I watched because of the clickbait title. You don’t have a secret tool.

[@matthew_kiely]

We have coretec with cork in the living area, but have had mold issues and since cork absorbs water we are using a different product with a mold-proof underlay.

[@OBFTILE]

interesting, how did you notice the mold problem?

[@Nick-cy2tn]

Removing the lip and gluing is fine it actually makes a stronger join than just the locking system

[@zimrilopez7988]

same method I use n damn good trick, you just need a block, helps tap them in, the tool you use is more for using on perimeter of your floor.

[@nananpapab]

What about the the jamb on the opposite side? Any tricks you have to get the flooring under the jamb and over the installed flooring?

[@patrickmurphy7870]

Wow! I’ve been looking for this answer, you’re the best

[@celestemosteller]

Just what I was looking for! Great job!

[@juancaballero8107]

2 Questions please. Where I can buy that scraper knife And ame of the glue. Please.

[@chizuck3322]

Now that you made it around the corner how do you backwards in that new room?

[@cherylvalenti7572]

Thank you som much you were the only one that showed me what I needed to do

[@samgreenhow3165]

im currently installing a wooden floor with similar locking system and theres no way to angle it in and also get it under the jam, you can't just tap it, to needs to be angled in so this method works in that scenario, unless you want to cut the jam off and glue it back on later

[@williammolchan3883]

80% of the time there is no need to trim the lip of the tongue and groove at all or use any glue . All you need to do is as you're sliding the wood in the door jamb get as close as possible then stick a pry bar underneath the piece of wood and user tapping block to tap it in the pry bar raises one side up just enough to tap the actual piece of wood in and utilize the locking mechanism already in place . I have 25 years experience doing wood floors carpet all kinds of flooring so I know what I'm talking about .

[@cmbespoke3699]

Hi, this is what I'm trying to do this week.....which is the best way to get the angle right to lock it into place? Would the pry bar go underneath the piece I am trying to slide in?

[@williammolchan3883]

Slide a pry bar underneath one end first add some pressure so it's at an angle to lock it in place and work your way down the plank and lock it in without cutting the lip or gluing it . I do it all the time without cutting the locking mechanism or gluing it 99% of the time

[@cmbespoke3699]

@@williammolchan3883 thanks very much for your reply mate.

[@maha77]

this worked for me, I used a scrap piece of the flooring and slid it under the difficult piece and it raised it just enough for me to be able to tap it in. Well, a little more force than a tap

[@junkyarddawgs9956]

When you have a damaged plank in the field and it needs to be replaced what do you do .You cut of the locking mechanism, because there is no way to get it to lock in with the other planks and what do we do next we glue it down and put weights on it until it dries. Glue is perfectly fine as long as it is the right glue. There is always more than one way to skin a pig ,just have to figure out what works best for you!!! Just saying!!!! I use my 20 ton hydraulic jack as a weight and 12 ton. I've got a few of them!!! Nice informative video!!! Keep up the good work and don't let these know it alls get in your head.

[@OBFTILE]

Thanks for the comment bro

[@LubaLuba1]

I like your video but can you tell me the difference between plank with backing and backing without can I use can I use on both or only the one without backing?

[@OBFTILE]

The backing is to eliminate some of the hollow sound when you step on your floor, so if you buy the one without backing you would have to buy padding by the roll or else the sound will get annoying

[@jackjones372]

My question is.. does that null or void a warranty...and.. where do I get one of those lil planer tools at?

[@Cormack88]

I'm just curious, I thought you couldn't work backwards installing this stuff? Is there a video showing how this is done?

[@shawnmoore5621]

With that cortec flooring it can be put together in any direction, forward or backwards

[@petepistachio8229]

You can install backwards with most flooring. Just pitching the tongued piece into the receiving end of the laid piece.

[@bruceerikson647]

I was wondering the same thing. No one ever makes a video about the second room where you have to put laminate down on both sides.

[@davidgagniere2923]

Thank you for this video. You solved a problem I was facing.

[@torinodan1]

show how to install last row when there are two or more doorways

[@anthonyvallario7561]

That can be a trick depending on the product sometimes but not all the time I have to take the lip off of the entire board and put some glue on the tongue and pull it straight together put a bunch of blue tape across the board to hold it tight it'll be the strongest board in the floor

[@ericramos139]

Show a pic and ill tell you how to do it easily imma flooring expert.

[@briangarrett9839]

A lot of people are saying this is wrong but it's not depending on what flooring you have some will not click by tapping it in sometimes you have to lift up a little and lock them in since you can't do that around door jambs the only way is to cut the lip of a little puts some glue and tap it in

[@gldnrlygldn1320]

It is wrong. Slide a flat bar underneath both side of the jamb on the plank. Put a block and rubber mallet to it. The center will pull itself in. If you cut your plank and jamb right and clear debris from under jamb, you will not have any problems with it. Cutting the locking mechanisms on vinyl planks is an error in the installer

[@dmprisk]

What color is this? Looks good

[@vctampa]

omg sooooo simple even i should of thought of it..lol thank you for saving me from pulling the casing off..

[@AlbertMaruggi]

do you really need the planner to do this? Looks like it's the perfect tool but can you do it with a utility knife?

[@OBFTILE]

You can definitely use a knife but the tongue material is so soft you can dig out too much if youre not careful

[@AlbertMaruggi]

@@OBFTILE ok get this, I used a sharp small chisel, gently went across the top of the. I took a little off and tested it. It was an attempt to see how close I could get it before putting the glue down. I used a taping block and to my surprise it locked. I thought Oh no I didn't get the glue down so I tried to get it off and couldn't so figured once I get the other rows in place I'll be fine. . The video was great to help me understand how the locking system works and what's doable. thanks so much, I will go get that planner it's a good tool too.

[@raulzamora4523]

Some times money comes in play and can't afford all toys. Because we remodel to demo. Working on it for more toys.

[@madometal]

You should be able to tap that together with block and hammer...avoid taking that lip off it will weakened the joint ...plus that's heavy traffic area

[@OBFTILE]

madometal thats what the glue is for

[@madometal]

All good brother theres so many ways you can do stuff and you always create tricks to overcome obstacles that's what flooring is all about ...if it works you can't argue ...cheers

[@OBFTILE]

Its worked for me so far, never a problem or a call back

[@petepistachio8229]

Mr B's Life oh god!!!! You do this for other people???? The reason you don’t get called back is because they call me!!!!

[@shawnmoore5621]

That's cortec flooring you should be able to click it together with no problems and not half to compromise the clicking system. Especially that board you just did, it should have been no problem to click it together. Also, why didn't you remove the baseboards before you installed the lvp?

[@Gmenpg]

Why won’t my block cut my lip like that ! I just bought it

[@andrewhutton5179]

Maybe a transition put between the two rooms would have been a good place to start read the manufacture specs

[@gldnrlygldn1320]

If you're any good you dont put transitions in your doorways unless it changes elevation. Cut your door jambs undercut your flooring and run it continually through the whole section.

[@vinylmaverick8044]

Filmed a while ago I know but thank you for the using a wood plane tip.

[@edutopia778]

If you read the instructions of the material. You will see it somewhere there (Don’t glue the boards together). Most of the clicks nowadays are easy to click by tapping the boards gently from the side. Just try to raise the board from the other side as high as you can and tap it multiple gentle taps. Gluing the boards together might work fine. But you’re avoiding the product warranty by doing that.

[@TheHonourableChristian]

Where did you get that planner from?

[@OBFTILE]

I bought it at Home Depot

[@steverone7623]

Found it! I have one of those tiny planers

[@chizuck3322]

So what is it like doing the planks on the other side of the door backwards?

[@OBFTILE]

Yes

[@heknows5418]

The whole floor is not glued, just one piece, the manufacture says this is acceptable . I have installed laminate for years never had a problem.

[@petepistachio8229]

You don’t know what you are talking about. Gluing one piece doesn’t allow it to shift during expansion and contraction. Voiding any warranty. You are a shit installer.

[@dennismorin7506]

Not true there is no way around it. If you have a better idea let me know. Cheers Dennis

[@heknows5418]

Pete Pistachio maybe you misunderstood I'm not gluing to the floor glue to the piece that you cut the lip off that way it doesn't separate when it expands. Never glue to the floor your just making it one piece so it holds .

[@raulzamora4523]

Sorry misspelled. Ment layed floors. Laminate, hardwood,tile and such. Cool video.

[@tyler4164]

Why do people feel the need to remove the lip off the board. There is no need to do that even in areas around door jambs. You just have to know what you are doing. Ive layed many floors & never had to remove part of the locking system. Before anyone asks why im watching this vid it came up in my suggestions.

[@OBFTILE]

David Tyler kudos to you sir, you are winning in life

[@tyler4164]

@@OBFTILE if you dont like criticism dont post videos online. Instead of insulting people who have a different opinion to yourself why not educate yourself & learn other ways to do the job. There are many videos showing the correct way you just have to look for them. If many people feel your way is incorrect then you should open your eyes to other ways.

[@OBFTILE]

I love criticism, not once did i insult you but you can take my words how it pleases you. I invite you to go watch said videos and stop making yourself look good commenting on my videos, good day sir

[@tyler4164]

@@OBFTILE wow just wow. You have a lot to learn if you wanna make it on youtube. Good day sir

[@yamaha1675]

Everyone is critical about the way this guy does!if it's not the correct way why doesnt say what the correct way is?how will the board lock in place if u cant tilt the board?the board will have to tilt with the lip

[@floorsonabudgetllc3729]

I use to do that and it works but now that I'm a master flooring installer I don't do it that way anymore. But it does work.

[@petepistachio8229]

For how long??? Till the check clears???

[@erichsh58]

So then how do you do it?? I don't have much use for professionals who don't have the time to make their own videos, but somehow find the time to criticize others who do.

[@mb4lunch]

I have a lot of these transitions coming up soon in jy house. Thanks so much!

[@douglasflexinha1924]

I could lock a plank in place like that one by banging with the rubber mallet. I love coretec

[@markziegler580]

exactly - I had great success with a tapping block and a soft faced hammer...

[@ameensh2439]

Hey, how can I install laminate flooring around steal door frames if there's no gap to slide the plank under it? Normally with wooden door frames I just trim them.

[@rudolphblair8577]

You need a template to that shapes the frame of the door then use a jig saw to cut it out. There are lots of templates on Amazon

[@JustinBuzek1995]

I never thought about removing the lip although I rather keep it there for extra security

[@mikekeating]

Guy needs to get himself a wonder bar .. .. lol

[@raulzamora4523]

Smart. Just learned something today. Have later from laminate to engineer hardwood. Would off been easier with these info. Thanks.

[@1painter4hire]

Nice Job Man, Dont worry about all the Keyboard Warriors Running Their mouth, Looks Great, And Im sure its still just fine. What kind of cutter do You use ? Thanks

[@michaelfritz6775]

Gorilla glue does expand...says to clamp...I know u can’t on these boards...can’t trim off lip...have two rooms done and a few gaps showed up..with a nasty lip to catch a foot o...now how do I fix it...help...please....have glue..afraid to have it come up to surface.....arghhhh...thankssss....

[@OBFTILE]

This was gorilla brand superglue which does not expand. I wouldn’t be able to sleep if I used regular gorilla glue. Good catch

[@jasonzupke1474]

Is that vinyl? There is a glue called “C glue” that might work. If it is Laminant (wood based) then they use wood glue generally.

[@alrightythen1533]

Do you mean CA glue (cyanoacrylate)?

[@jasonzupke1474]

@@alrightythen1533 Yes

[@phudao7067]

Thank you for teaching 😊

[@jimmybailey2575]

Whats that tool @ the very end of the video on the left next 2 the door that kinda looks like a paper cutter?

[@mikez4132]

That is a shear for the flooring. Square cuts wo needing power or making noise and dust.

[@LubaLuba1]

With hydrogel by Bruce you need to have plank in an angle to click end in then long side in. So this video would work for me.

[@jeebolard]

@Mr B’s Life what do you do when you get to the other side of the jamb (since there will be flooring in the way once you lay boards across the doorway opening)?

[@OBFTILE]

Dustin Juliano i dont get your question man

[@smokingcheeba420]

You did the easy side of the door. What about the other side of the door?

[@OBFTILE]

Its the same thing you cut around under the jam and leave yourself about 1/8” clearance then you hammer it back together

[@gldnrlygldn1320]

Cut your jamb. Slide it under. Use a block and mallet to lock it in.

[@choncord]

That's just dumb, cutting off your joint mechanism and compromise your joint. For fitting under door jambs like yours all you need is to tap it in with a tapping block and a 12oz rubber mallet. Tapping it would gently force the joint to click together.

[@Lolcatastrophic]

Thank you soooo much I was cursing this flooring

[@Gearheaddeluxe]

Thanks. Was wondering about this.

[@michaelfoley8289]

Why no underlay.

[@OBFTILE]

michael foley this specific plank came with cork underlayment attached to the back of each plank

[@michaelfoley8289]

@@OBFTILE thanks for your reply

[@barrick4807]

The laminate cutter do you prefer it over a saw?

[@OBFTILE]

Barrick Golf absolutely, its a huge time saver

[@big2927]

Those cutters are expensive but so awesome!

[@johnchapmanjr7145]

Why would you cut the groove off of the plank? Just tap them together... better to leave them then not have them at all.

[@lvtflooringstore7687]

nice job, hate when someone does t-molds at doors.

[@GMak03]

Those pulling things are called flat crowbars lmao

[@adrianhill9208]

Secret tool trick? Where??

[@OBFTILE]

adrian hill the small planer lol had to click bate yall somehow sorry

[@paintmaster8843]

thats freaking awsome!!

[@jethrohaha]

no underlay?

[@OBFTILE]

Boxuan Yan it came pre attached to the boards

[@jethrohaha]

@@OBFTILE it sounds very convenient

[@jacobmeyers2251]

I've installed hundreds of floors. Not one have I had to take off the lip. Glueing is for REPAIRS only!

[@cherylvalenti7572]

Two thumbs up 👍

[@g-ray7019]

I can install this the correct way under a door as anywhere else in the house. I’ve never done it this way. Doorways just take a little longer.

[@petepistachio8229]

Then you too are an idiot.

[@jeffstrong4580]

Why didn't you removed side molding before installing flooring because if you don't do that you will see spacing between flooring and molding later. Only way to do it properly would be remove side molding first and install flooring as tight as can then install molding back on top of it to hide the spacing. It looks ugly with space showing.

[@casanovarjs2323]

Do not let this guy anywhere near your floor hell don't even let him walk on it.

[@OBFTILE]

😂

[@billwilson6096]

Richard what sense does your dumbass comment make?

[@fillupread]

Got to 1:30 and stopped because you already told everyone you have no idea what you are doing. Do not remove the lip, use a tap block or scrap piece to force the joint into battery. It actually tells you this in the instructions. The floor is a live 'floating' floor and any movement or temperature contraction will open that joint up, right in the middle of your room.

[@RobertBranch-FL]

Great video! Thank you!!

[@kevincarpenter7704]

What is the chalk line for? Since the vinyl planks lock together which makes them straight with each other, why do you need a chalk line?

[@OBFTILE]

They actually can get out of wack when going into a room so i just pop the line to make sure its all good

[@abberrellii]

Hey guys not trying to step on toes but as soon as you take that tongue off you have just voided the manufacturers warranty. Not saying the install won't be successful but no manufacturer will warranty that product anymore. So DIY guys if you follow this technique I'm sure you'll have a great looking floor but if anything ever goes wrong with it you're screwed because you voided the warranty. It's right in the instructions they provide you. Again, this guys heart is in the right place and even this technique will probably work but that 20, 25 , etc warranty on the box just went bye bye. Follow manufacturers instructions to keep yourself protected

[@jackjones372]

And you could also install that board first... then work your way to each wall . .

[@ebersilv6496]

Do this and have the board moving up and down, till loose from each other.

[@duartepaintinghandymanservices]

that joint will fail over time, due to the floors natural habbit of expansion and contraction, I wouldn't advice anyone to follow this step in cutting out the lip, thats what keeps the floor in the living position not gorilla glue 🤦‍♀️ which as I said before will fail

[@eddiebaby22]

Thanks for the tip, I came across this problem today with some very thick boards. Will sort it now. Thanks

[@OBFTILE]

Eddie no problem man, glad you found it

[@noquestions7443]

You don’t need tht little tool to cut the lip You can use knife at 45 angle to brush off that lip

[@douglasnorthpole8542]

I wouldn't do this. There is no reason to remove the lip. I am more worried about the huge gap between your floor and the baseboards.....

[@Wdiedericks]

Hi there, where can I find one of those small hand planers? Thanks

[@OBFTILE]

i found it at my local HD but im pretty sure you could find it online

[@drewchainzs8587]

Never cut the locking system that whole seam is trash now, they expand and contract so glue is not an option plus you just voided the manufacturer warranty. Use a pull bar or tapping block. Split the door case with the short seam when available.

[@AlameenConstructionltd]

Great thanks

[@markweber2958]

it will tap together with a scrap pc. Just fine...don't remove the lip

[@tylercrumley2788]

How many times do you say “uumm” when you talk?

[@OBFTILE]

Tyler Crumley not sure 🤔 but you could tell us since youre so interested lol This guy

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[@johnkind5981]

Avoid a company 中 泰 地 板Kee Flooring in Melbourne at all cost if u don't believe u can try it

[@ericfoster1671]

I have been doing flooring for 15 years and never done that . You are miss informing people and ruining the floor in the process.

[@gueorguimurdock2428]

That’s not the way to do it And if you must use glue that’s not the glue to use