InstantCineWisdom - Gyro Stabilisers

Gyro Stabilisers are a lesser common way to stabilise Camera movement.
German DoP Jost Vacano perfected the technique in 1981s DAS BOOT, and the tracking shots through the submarine are nothing short of breathtaking, earning him an Academy Award nomination.
Gyro Stabilisers maintain a handheld look that adds a sense urgency and a more involvement feel for the audience.
A gyro Stabiliser rotates weights with extremely high RPM adding inertia to a system …and produce a siren song to deal with.
Just like Gimbal systems, Gyroscopes stabilise the orientation of a system, not their position… this is why we combine it with a Tilta Float adding stabilisation to the position and supporting the weight.
We are working on an episode about the subject… let us know if you have questions.
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[@labileslama9848]

man gotta rewatch das boot, it's such a masterpiece

[@MediaDivision]

Totally… one of the best

[@Bosnitch1]

I have been considering a gyro unit from Kenyon Labs and would be very grateful to see a full test review of the very same two-axis unit you displayed in your short above... this is exactly the kind of subject that makes Media Division the only place to go to find serious answers to questions that only professionals ever ask.

[@MediaDivision]

We consider doing an episode, but don't expect one soon... we got the episode planned for the month ahead and no open space

[@Bosnitch1]

Thank you@@MediaDivision, I am patient... your amazing work is worth the wait!

[@sergiosanchez2012]

I remember the Pille gyrostabilizer used for Slumdog Millionaire hand held shots on the SI2K. Been trying to find something like that since then without luck. Looking forward for the episode.

[@MediaDivision]

Kenyo is basically the only option out there.... like the 4x4 you see here. You can buy one new and now and then one pops up on ebay

[@kavavnaughmp]

I used one of those for a photo shoot once. We wanted a slow shutter speed shot of a MV-22 in flight (think 1/20s). We got the shots, but also wrecked the gyro stabilizer in the process... Oops... Remember kids, ALWAYS get the rental insurance. Things happen

[@MediaDivision]

They are super easy to drop and wreck… this one is ours and we dripped it already (as you see on one of the sides)

[@toneohm]

So happy to see new content from you guys : )

[@MediaDivision]

We are never gone. just takes time to create contend like ours.

[@JordanElliottMcClure]

Awesome!

[@MediaDivision]

Cheers

[@PALALALALALALA]

OHHHHH You've got a Gravity one !! It's my fav way of using my easyrig stabil ! Interesting to see you using it this way... The big con of the gyro is well... the huge amount of noise.

[@MediaDivision]

True… and there are many other good reasons to use a gimbal, but… if it’s good, it’s good

[@PALALALALALALA]

@@MediaDivision true. Last time I had one, well wasn't mine, but a steadicam OP on a MV. Rooftop with lot of wind in Marseille. It helped a lot.

[@MediaDivision]

Marseille is sure one windy city… spent a lot of time there@@PALALALALALALA

[@MrNoipe]

quite a confusing name, now that gyro stabilizers usually refer to using mems gyroscopic data to stabilize in post :)

[@MediaDivision]

That’s the way they are called… generally we differentiate between electronical and mechanical systems… this beeing mechanical

[@andrewpoison]

Hearing a german screaming 'alaaarm' made me think about something else and giggle ^^

[@madmonkey-studio]

What Rig is this you're using with the tilta float???

[@MediaDivision]

flowcine gravity one.... upside down

[@NoahBuehler]

Never heard of this before, how does it compare to a gimbal, or just adding more weight to the camera? Can the strenght of the effect be edjusted by decreasing the speed of the flywheels?

[@MediaDivision]

That is a long story… to long for a comment. We will make an episode about it. But of course, the slower the rotation the less stabilizing effect.

[@U404-2]

does it feel like using a gimbal?

[@MediaDivision]

you can do different things with it for different results… with an Alexa it is to heavy to be just handhold

[@CinemaEngineer]

I have been interested in trying one of these stabilizers. thought about making one out of some old hdd's. just haven't gotten around to it

[@MediaDivision]

If you try to stabilize anything bigger than a phone, you will need something a bit beefier

[@CinemaEngineer]

@@MediaDivision well I was more planning to use the hdd disks because they are already balanced. Then put probably 15 on a faster and stronger motor. do that for all three axis.

[@MediaDivision]

@@CinemaEngineer I am not sure what you mean with "already balanced". You can only spin fast enough with Helium fill... at least without burning up the platters.

[@CinemaEngineer]

@@MediaDivision the disks are balanced, so you can spin them up to 7k rpm without the system shaking and making the camera less stable than it was without the gyro. I would remove the disks from the hdd and remount them on a totally new motor, and i would mount 15 disks instead of the 3-4 a common hdd has. more mass spinning and more speed means more resistance to change.

[@felrickson]

looking forward to the results@@CinemaEngineer

[@vinc74600]

what's the rotule at the end? the zeegee style one

[@MediaDivision]

flowcine gravity one... upside down. It's discontinued

[@UraFlight]

Where I could see the results ? How smooth it is ?

[@MediaDivision]

not as smooth as a gimbal... different. We are going to do something down the road but here is a litte test: kzbin.infoC9Jk6-Aeqho

[@UraFlight]

@@MediaDivision Thank you so much for your fast reply 👍😊

[@MediaDivision]

always!@@UraFlight

[@UraFlight]

@@MediaDivisionHow I can contact you personally ? I do film fast moving jets and I would like to ask you for an advice

[@MediaDivision]

You can message me/us on instagram media.division@@UraFlight

[@dieserjakub]

What Arri Camera Model is this

[@MediaDivision]

XT-M

[@elissitdesign]

What arm was that holding the gyro rig?

[@MediaDivision]

Like we say… tilta float

[@N4lax]

Is this an upcoming video?

[@MediaDivision]

I think so… yes

[@loudmotion5639]

@@MediaDivision please do a whole episodes about camera stabilisation tech please :)... as young adults in this industry we barely know anything outside of gimbals lol.

[@8lec_R]

Super interested. But I have no clue about this, so I'll keep the questions for thr main video (⁠＾⁠∇⁠＾⁠)⁠ﾉ⁠♪

[@MediaDivision]

Thanks … stay tuned