All automotive intake manifolds fall into one of two basic families, Single or Dual plane. Here's a quick overview of each design's characteristics and the basic science behind them.
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@UncleTonysGarage4 жыл бұрын
I see confusion in the comments already! Ok, both Tunnel Ram and Cross Ram manifolds are Single Plane design. With an "Air Gap" style manifold...they can be either single or dual plane. The gap is about insulating the bottom of the intake against internal heat from an engine. All Big Block Chrysler intake's, as well as some Pontiac and Buick engines are air gap style from the factory. Offy Dual Ports are dual plane manifolds with the runners split in half their entire length.
@AtZero1384 жыл бұрын
Keep at it Boss.. Oi oi oi.. Look folks use your Google and look at image's.. stop bitching.
@richardcranium58394 жыл бұрын
and it makes little sense when they put an exhaust crossover in the air insulated ones. but hey the carbs dont freeze up on cold starts
@brianglade8484 жыл бұрын
Do any pass the "mustache test"....it states "the whiskers should fit neatly and squarely in each intake port"
@lambrokedrc59984 жыл бұрын
@@johnpossum556 LMAO, I needed a flashback and a laugh today!^___^ THNX!
@vincerencher91284 жыл бұрын
I was kinda think'n about the old cross ram's on the 413. I assume they make tons of low end.
@kurtzimmerman16374 жыл бұрын
bodywork is fun as long as someone else does it!
@lichking37114 жыл бұрын
or if you are a masochist
@dubiousf00d2 жыл бұрын
My son is this way. Lol
@janitziobanuelos35674 жыл бұрын
I love how you clean your table
@Torquemonster4404 жыл бұрын
I've done hours and hours worth of reading about intake manifold theory lately, this is by far the best explanation I've heard in regards to the effects of runner length. Well done Uncle T !! And yes, body work is a tedious fuckin nightmare for me too.
@MattySlimz4 жыл бұрын
The “Arm broom” best used on work benches to clear crap outta the way 😂🤣
@mr.motormaster98814 жыл бұрын
ALPHA MAN 😎👋
@mcqueenfanman4 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of First Blood, Rambo putting down rifles on a table to load. Here, Tony is putting down intakes. Well, only one.
@OverlandOne4 жыл бұрын
That method was outlawed by OSHA back in the mid 1980's.
@royderouin75104 жыл бұрын
I put everthing away carfully so I remember what I did with things for next time ...than i forget where I put the shit and walk around in circles
@famine5004 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a mechanical engineering degree, I wish uncle Tony was my fluid dynamics professor, instead of deriving equations we could have been learning how things actually work.
@skiz88484 жыл бұрын
that's an unhealthy mindset. learn both because you can get value from both sides. i have a physics degree but love working on practical problems with my hands.
@timebert61413 жыл бұрын
I would like to give a round of applause to Uncle Cathy! That is a woman with a sense of humor... She supports her husband's desire to be in the shop, is an active participant, handles paperwork and does video. Beside every great man stands an excellent woman. I tip my hat to you for being a great lady!
@janjosjan4 жыл бұрын
I've just put on a single-plane (instead of a dual-plane) on my daily fully (IMPCO) propane fuelled ('69) 383CI (custom built) Dodge A108! It works WAY better on all rpm ranges now, because propane doesn't need atomization like gasoline does. It's instant vapourized with O² into da plenum! Just a small tip, from a wicked Dutch MoPar dude!
@cdoublejj4 жыл бұрын
... go on....
@royderouin75104 жыл бұрын
Propane tank only weighs 494 lbs.
@donellmuniz5904 жыл бұрын
Interestingly, bone stock 2 bl 318s in 71-2 had a low rise, single plane intake that worked very well. An anomaly for production V8s. But Mopars seem to respond well to small single planes, like the old Holley Street Dominator, and the Torker 383. And you can find em cheap at swap meets, $100 or less. Ya wont get a Performer RPM for that! Or an M-1.
@UnityMotorSportsGarage4 жыл бұрын
This is dead on INFORMATION... Love it... And after all of my messing with Tunnel Rams seem to fall in between the two.. it's just a single plane with more plenum volume and longer runners compared to a reg singleplane Intake... They make more torque in the mid range and carry it out further.... Good Stuff Andy
@johnwilburn4 жыл бұрын
Yes! That exactly how to describe a tunnel ram. It’s only because of their intended application that they all tend to have big runner cross sections and work at high rpm. If there was a tunnel ram design with skinnier runners and a short plenum people would marvel at the low RPM performance..... but why do that and have hood clearance problems when other designs would accomplish the same thing.....,
@UnityMotorSportsGarage4 жыл бұрын
@@johnwilburn Tunnel Rams are the predecessor to the production intakes of today... Tony was dead on.. about the 5.0 Intakes that came out in '86 it made the 302 have the down low torque of a Carbed 351! Which is why they ran so good for what they were.... Andy
@johnwilburn4 жыл бұрын
@@UnityMotorSportsGarage Absolutely. Just look at the intake on my Honda CR-V. Enormous plenum and long runners. It’s repacked to fit under the hood and has a variable plenum volume thanks to this vacuum thing inside it, but yeah, it’s relation to a tunnel ram style is undeniable.
@needmetal32214 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you hit the sweet spot with bore/stroke, valve size, cam, runner length etc. Being able to position an injector closer to the valve frees up some runner possibilities though.
@needmetal32214 жыл бұрын
@@johnwilburn with injection they can flow air rather than mixture which allows them to use longer runners. One of Tony's points. Makes a big difference in smaller displacement engines
@MrTheHillfolk4 жыл бұрын
This is getting good. almost every day when I get home from work ,UTG posted a vid like an hour before for my viewing pleasure.
@dfields804 жыл бұрын
A shame you didn’t have a cross ram intake available to explain the “pulse” better. The 413 sonoramic commando was a hell of a motor
@donellmuniz5904 жыл бұрын
A 413 Max Wedge was a better one!
@deborahchesser73754 жыл бұрын
Donell Muniz is the the one with the giant intake runners ? Four barrel on each fender well, crazy.
@jamesglenn64614 жыл бұрын
Proof you need to be brutally honest with the real use of a proposed engine, or modification.
@jfv654 жыл бұрын
Back in the 1980's when Opel was still owned by GM they made dualram intake manifolds. Best of both worlds. The switchover from long to short runnerlenght was done automatically (by manifold vaccume? Electric? I forgot) It worked!
@johnelliott73757 ай бұрын
100% 💯% correct Tony and the statement of the prep is 99% of a show car paint job and it is so true and as solid of a fact as your going to get ever!
@OverlandOne4 жыл бұрын
I put a Weiand mid-rise aluminum intake on my 1970 440 topped with a Holley 650 double pumper and that motor screamed but, it did move the power curve up in the rpm range a little bit. I mainly used it because it cleared the closed hood on my totally rebuilt and hot rodded ex-State Police Furry III. (Not by much) It was a good choice because using the Chrysler Purple Shaft cam, which also moved the power curve into higher rpm, still was able to work well with the Police Package highway rear gears. A higher stall torque converter would have been better but, this was a road vehicle and not a drag car. I pegged the 140 MPH certified speedo more than once back in my college days. It still was able to demolish the left side (driver's) motor mounts which I had to replace many, many times before I added a chain to the frame back-up to save my fan shrouds which were always destroyed when the mount let go.
@Taino2116 күн бұрын
Sir I absolutely love your videos for your explanations. Super super informative and interesting
@lambrokedrc59984 жыл бұрын
I thought it was explained very well myself! The plenum in my cerebellum with a parabellum- my head exploded^___^ Keep at that bodywork UT I'm goin' on 7yrs with mine(it wasn't even wrecked) plus bumper fillers(ready)^___^ THNX!
@thecnote12874 жыл бұрын
This makes complete sense. Thanks for another great explanation!
@mschiffel14 жыл бұрын
A gallon of Rust-O-Leum in your favorite flavor, and a roller is good enough for that beater.
@disfunctionalmorons13244 жыл бұрын
Why a roller? It sprays beautifully out of a gun mixed 50/50 with acetone. Not to mention the obvious but you get twice the product to paint another car
@richiet34904 жыл бұрын
The roller for texture 🤣
@donellmuniz5904 жыл бұрын
I've actually done that. A nice black and white 2 tone on my 70 F-100. With foam brushes. Straight outa the can, no thinner. No runs, no drips, no errors, and only one coat needed.
@donellmuniz5904 жыл бұрын
@@disfunctionalmorons1324 With a thinner, ya get runs. And ya might need 2 coats. I used it straight from the can, with foam brushes. Smoothed out pretty good!
Standing waves and their reflections: They naturally supercharge your intake at the speed of sound (and correct RPM) in engines, and tune impedance match at the speed of light in electronic transmission lines. A few months ago when you discussed the IIRC cross-ram intake in the circa 1960 Mopars you did a better job explaining this phenomenon.
@donellmuniz5904 жыл бұрын
Ok, science guy.
@donellmuniz5904 жыл бұрын
@@judythomas2939 Damn, you folks are in graduate school, while I'm stuck in 10th grade! And I'm 55! Some of that physics shit is just over my head!
@michaelpeterson43483 жыл бұрын
That’s the best explanation of a dual plane versus single plane intake manifold I’ve ever seen very good
@easygoing24794 жыл бұрын
Uncle Tony! I LOVE this intake stuff! It's a great subject for an engine power bed-time story! I'm sure if you had more time you'd tell the part about a how a dual-plane intake separates those bad sequential intake pulses on adjacent cylinder firings, like the mean old 5-7 firing order you talked about near the end! That's neat how the bad, bad #5 cylinder scavenges from one plane of the intake, but then the evil #7 has to take its breathe from the other plane! Those two cylinders get mad because they're prevented from robbing the intake column from the same area of the plenum in a dual plane! That's GREAT!
@starcloakstarside97193 жыл бұрын
Grateful. Thank you! I do both mechanic work and body work on a daily basis! I salute you as well, Uncle Tony.
@EamonnSeoigh4 жыл бұрын
And while you confused yourself, I finally had my “bingo” moment on spacers. Always wondered what spacers were all about..... Now, I need to figure out how to know when I need one. Thx, UT.
@MrThewillows3 жыл бұрын
I'm educated in your subject matter and I must say I enjoy listening to your videos. keep up the good work mate!
@-l_T- Жыл бұрын
The science of yesterdays cars, it blows my mind. Took some very smart, very imaginative people. To create a engine
@moparmatt58964 жыл бұрын
Totally have to respect the body shop guys they have to work their asses off to make things happen.
@ArthurSperotto4 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation!! The last part about plenum volume was key. I'm awaiting a Victor 340 for my 360 (running a 1" spacer), and this video reassured I made the right choice for my application. Thanks Uncle!
@ianhale44662 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tony, I used to work at a bodyshop, very underrated, its a job that you'll put 220 percent in, and the customer will still complain 9/10
@terrycullender1234 жыл бұрын
Listen to your Uncle Tony! I've learned to watch the comments too. You usually answer the questions before I ask. Or you make another video! Much love from Merida!
@djweszone2 жыл бұрын
THAT WAS THE BEST WAY i HAVE EVER HEARD ANYONE EXPLAIN THIS THANK YOU.
@brucechamberlain98904 жыл бұрын
Tony’s humor and tech never disappoint.
@johntempest2674 жыл бұрын
One "formula" I've learned regarding intakes, the more displacement an engine, the less advantage a dual plane offers. A 455 Pontiac makes equal low end power with a single plane Torker II.
@frankrizzo39222 жыл бұрын
Good to know!
@kevincarey55664 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. The best explanation I have seen yet! I answered so of my questions why a Predator carb likes open plenumam a body man by trade. Started at 16, am 58 now. Patience is a virtue, doing bodywork in a restoration test that virtue. Hang in there.
@johnk33862 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I need you to come clean my work bench off!
@kennethporst43594 жыл бұрын
Brother you got this don't quit while your ahead keep sanding and working it
@victormiranda91634 жыл бұрын
intake tuning for a single cylinder is straightforward. Getting that idea onto an 8 and under a hood is a struggle. usually one cylinder or another suffers to match power. your explanation is good.
@pierrecarlsson9024 жыл бұрын
This is a theory I hope you comment in your knowledge and experience. As I've learned it, you can compare the runners both in and out with organpipes in a church. They are tuned in length to a specific frequenze (tone) and will actually give tree tones; the full sinus tone as the length of the pipe, the one you will hear. Then there is a halfsinus tone one octave up (twice the frequenze) and then one down (half the frequenze) that you can't hear more than as a wider sound. So, a ramchargeintake or headers will work the same way. Tuned to the specific frequenze as for example 4k rpm they have full sinus length. This is very effective in a narrow range around that frequenze. Halfsinus don't give as much boost, but will operate in a wider range. To make an efficient engine you prefer half or quarterwavelength that will give less boost but operates in the most of the rpm's that normally used. The exhaust operates in a similar way, but with longer runners due to the gastemperature.
@debothatho54352 жыл бұрын
awesome info man! I feel I know a lot of the info, but you helped put all the missing parts together that I could not quite figure out. Thank you for this detailed video!!
@papageorgeo74974 жыл бұрын
I would have loved to have you as my auto/diesel school instructor when I was in auto school. You keep us engaged and paying attention.
@davidcraft4909 Жыл бұрын
Awesome explanation, I never realized that a dual plane intake has longer runners. Wow, I mean I knew that single plane intakes are for higher rpm, but I never new why.
@edbowden60004 жыл бұрын
2 part comment. I did bodywork on cars for 20 years, at this point......its easy. Started working on yachts 3 years ago and 40yr veterans are amazed at how good my work is. Second part. Im building a 455 for my trans am and got an Edlebrock performer intake for it. People say it flows the same as a stock intake and its no good. Then other people say a stock Pontiac intake is just as good as aftermarket. Im not looking for alot of power, just a good street car with a "little" oomf.
@flinch6222 жыл бұрын
I don't know why I arrived late to this vid, but thank you for the laugh: clearing that table was a therapeutic moment, There are times in a job where pulling off to do something else for a bit really is the right thing to do: it just works. It's been some time since I crunched numbers, but I sat down one day to figure out the overlap time for a cam I installed at 6k rpm - I came up with 6.1 milliseconds [I think]. That isn't much time for scavenging window. So these valve events happen quick, and so it is with the pulse chaos in the manifold. The constant jitter underneath a 4 bbl in a single plane can be enough to allow fuel puddling which is why some single planes deserve a turtle. My hat's off to the wizards that figure out what combo's of runner length vs plenum volume works for various engine combo's - there's a good list of variables to sort out before committing to a casting. It all looks dead simple - until a combo leaves a bunch of power somewhere with no forwarding address...
@witnesszer04 жыл бұрын
the body man says the same thing when you work on an engine he don't know how you do it lol
@rtkl134 жыл бұрын
Yup..thats a body man talking right there
@Richard-gy1fo4 жыл бұрын
Sooo true. I can do both but hate body work myself. Dents add character
@bigbear55104 жыл бұрын
NOW, That's how ya clean a work table/bench!!! Great video & content! Am I getting this right?🤣🤣🤣
@montananative24144 жыл бұрын
You forgot about the Offenhauser manifolds.....maybe save that for another intake video. ;) Thanks for teaching us.
@jamest.50014 жыл бұрын
I totally understand your explanation , but I have been into engines for a lifetime, and can't stop myself from learning how things work! I have a 385 stroker I built with a single plane, but been thinking about either dividing it, or swapping to a large dual plane, to gain a bit of low end TQ. Something like a Dart dual plane, something that will fit the larger 220cc runners, good day uncle 'T' !!!..😷
@montanagetaway61754 жыл бұрын
Table clean off js getting you back close to throwing stuff again! Great tutorial unc.
@KGisthename2 жыл бұрын
That's what I do. The feeling is mutual though Tony. You sir are a hell of a mechanic. I work at a body shop as a collision tech, but also restore and sell muscle cars.
@SanjoLocs3 жыл бұрын
I gave 👍up as soon as you cleared your table 😂👏👏
@guywerry66144 жыл бұрын
That was actually pretty well explained. Thanks.
@lskiller19034 жыл бұрын
Yeah if you already know what he's trying to say, but a newbie will be lost forever with that explanation!
@saxmusicmail4 жыл бұрын
One of the old Direct Connection small block books had specific directions on how to trim down (1/2"?) the divider in the LD-4B and LD-340 manifold, including a notch, and asymmetrical jetting in order to even out the mixture to all 8 cylinders. That was just a little too much voodoo for me, never did it. I can't find those books now, they were paperback, about the thickness of a comic book. But I can't imagine myself tossing them in the trash. I wonder if those are still available, even online in pdf format?
@AtZero1384 жыл бұрын
I'm close to installing my Holley Street Dominator Manifold Single plane.. cause it was given to me and ... why the hell not.. Oi oi oi
@AtZero1384 жыл бұрын
@Detective Cazanachas Hahaha.. not what you mean.. but hey, not all things need to be understood.. Oi Punk is life, working class Punk, Street Punk.. Peace Brother
@mickymopar4 жыл бұрын
Street dominator and a 2 or 3 inch carb spacer works great on a healthy 340
@AtZero1384 жыл бұрын
@@mickymopar thanks for the advice.. no problem with hood clearance ? The manifold is short.. just asking..
@AtZero1384 жыл бұрын
@Hey Yo Man I like you a Bunch Now.. Oi to you and Yours.. I'll put together a Oi play list soon, got my Ska, RockSteady and early Reggae one up now.. Boots Stomping since the early 90s.. Peace Brother
@mickymopar4 жыл бұрын
I didnt have no problems 70 challenger with a t/a hood
@oscarsmith65196 ай бұрын
Great explanation. Thanks.
@kcav53744 жыл бұрын
Good video Tony. I liked it and it brought me back to a street car I had many moons ago. a 1964 Ford Fairlane, (a Gorgeous looking blue 2 door) originally a stick six that I changed to q 302 V , C4 auto from a 68 Fairlane. Like you spoke about your Mustang, "The torque that thing made was great!" I curved my distributor, ran one range hotter spark plugs & premimum gas. (Good or bad I don't know but it ran Strong!) my car a non posi 8" rear end w/ a 3.50 gear and I surprised (and got past) a lot f cars I shouldn't have! Keep up with the videos, I always look for them!
@whatchacookin10964 жыл бұрын
When I'm in the market for a new car, I'm getting a car like Tony's.
@loganshotrod4x4644 жыл бұрын
That Torker II you got; I ran one of those on my Dad’s 413 & it was a WONDERFUL intake even for daily driving; everyone told me to run a dual plane & I did... but I put that Torker II back on it the same day because it ran so much better... no joke.
@donellmuniz5904 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised by that, my Fury III felt stronger with the dual plane, especially down low.
@loganshotrod4x4644 жыл бұрын
Donell Muniz: mines a solid .505 mopar performance purple shaft cam with about 10 to 1 compression & a 650 Edelbrock & 516 heads... change up the combo & who knows what we’ll get 😎
@donellmuniz5904 жыл бұрын
@@loganshotrod4x464 That makes sense, mine has the 274 hydraulic purple cam, 9.5 to 1 speed pros, with a 2000 stall and 3.55s.
@loganshotrod4x4644 жыл бұрын
Donell Muniz: starting to add up now... I’m running a 4 speed & 4.10’s
@Lagrange11864 жыл бұрын
hey tony, have you covered when to go dual 4 barrel over single 4 barrel? should you ever go dual over single or is it just a cosmetic "looks cool" thing? thanks for all the great free content i have learned tons!
@yurimodin73333 жыл бұрын
it really has more to do with getting even A/F distribution than MOAR FLOW.......think carburated version of port injection.
@unclesquirrel69514 жыл бұрын
Personally I blame squirrels
@bigbear55104 жыл бұрын
Them bushy tailed rats!
@77yogurt4 жыл бұрын
@Hey Yo you talking about Squirrel, the guy who almost took out Dominator from Street Outlaws when he bounced off both walls?
@unclesquirrel69514 жыл бұрын
yogurt77 👉🏻🐿
@77yogurt4 жыл бұрын
@@unclesquirrel6951 I'm sorry, idk what that means. I'm a little old and a little stupid.
@unclesquirrel69514 жыл бұрын
yogurt77 👉🏻🐿= ..... ( 👉🏻🐿) 😎
@albertferguson64036 ай бұрын
You just helped me so much. thanks for the info. You rock man :)
@hotrodray68024 жыл бұрын
👍🔔 I tend to find that people picture the intake charge in each runner like a ball rolling down a pipe. Actually the pressure wave is like a slinky toy (spring thing) pulsing back and forth inside the pipe. Timing the bounce and rebound to the rpm to the valve opening is the magic. Some dual planes like the 289 GT350 and Edelbrock F4B had the corner cylinders long, and the middle 4 cylinders real short...maybe 2.5 inches. Making half high rpm and half lower rpm for a flatter though lower torque curve. Thanks. 👍👍😎
@LonnieKruger Жыл бұрын
Thanks, here here in Australia i only have had 351 Clevelands for last 35 years have stuffed around with spacers and drilling out 4 hole manifolds to 2 i always thought it was just about how much flow and heat retention the fuel was getting never even heard about pulse rpm and runner length,,excellent imfo only have f100s so low rpm high torque is all i,m after, thanks
@Sjmartin6664 жыл бұрын
Back in the late 90's I had tested about every intake short of a tunnel ram on a hot 350 with a 4 speed, always went back to an early 70's Eddy tm-1..And still on it to this day
@donellmuniz5904 жыл бұрын
TM-6 (precursor to the Torker 383) is still a great 383/400 intake; TM-7 or "Tarantula" is still great on a 413-426W-440. Old stuff doesn't always suck.
@bansheemania16924 жыл бұрын
Yes.. I Was the Bondo, Fender primer boy WAY Way back when.... Man I Don't Miss the Days of Comming home And Blowing Bondo snot All Night
@01trsmar4 жыл бұрын
When I was 16 I swapped intakes on the cars I owned to see what was quicker,single,duel and stock! But these were stock,once I started having cams/heads done,I left what the builder said was the best aka my buddy,his Dad was a drag racer and engine builder and it took years but passed his knowledge to his son(my buddy) damn it took awhile though! Doesnt take long to swap intakes,a few of them after 1 pass I swapped the intakes back.
@mcqueenfanman4 жыл бұрын
I used to have a chevy 2.8 tbi motor, they had the worst factory intake ever made. I adapted an Edelbrock carb intake to the tbi unit. It was a dual plane intake and it with my homemade tbi adapter, it was 100% separated from bank to bank. It had great throttle response for an engine of that size but hit a brick wall at 3500. I ended up cutting the center out of the adapter and it would march up to 5000 with no problems. Those 2.8s had a 123456 firing order from bank to bank.
@djsnowman064 жыл бұрын
Just finished rockers and cab corners on my ram1500. Love spraying paint but hate the prep.
@jeffjankiewicz51004 жыл бұрын
Well said Uncle Tony.
@pedrovillarreal17153 жыл бұрын
Great job explaining, THANKS !!!
@abeldoesit65594 жыл бұрын
Uncle Tony can say 5 words and a couple of hand signals and I completely understand.
@BlackLS1Pontiac4 жыл бұрын
Great explanation, thanks uncle Tony!!
@DasLuftVolks4 жыл бұрын
On the body work, buy a $99 HF stud gun and the easy sand filler to make your life a LOT easier. What is great about the stud gun is you can use it to heat up an area so you can quench it to shrink the metal back. No need to waste gas, propane, MAP, acetylene, etc just pull the trigger with no stud and pin point heat the panel if needed for targeted reshape. The lightweight or EZ sand fillers dont make you work so hard getting it off. At the end of the day it doesnt feel like you have been doing pushups for 8 hours.
@SOU69004 жыл бұрын
I've seen a guy in a Facebook group complaining because his small block Chevy in his square body pickup had no guts hardly with a RV cam in it. Everyone was telling him it was because of the huge ass single plain intake on his truck that works best at 6-8000 revs.
@donellmuniz5904 жыл бұрын
Yeah, an "RV" cam and a big single plane are like a fat chick in a thong. Not made for each other.
@SOU69004 жыл бұрын
@@donellmuniz590 lmao. Getting off topic here but I've seen that ungodly sight once.
@davidroyle55526 ай бұрын
I have been doing body and paint professionally for over 30 years. I get it. This is why my body is shot and when I stop it will get way worse.
@rubyfast4527 Жыл бұрын
Thanks again Tony
@robertwyman14974 жыл бұрын
Tony, you would love , "The Scientific Design of Exhaust and Intake Systems" by Philip H. Smith. It's way over the heads of most your followers but it would help you relay the pulsating waves of pressure occuring w different designs of manifolds.
@craigpennington12514 жыл бұрын
I think body work makes Uncle Tony a bit edgy. I used to use the Offenhauser dual port 360 with a mild cam and headers and a 4 speed trans. It worked very well. This is very good stuff here.
@Imnotyourdoormat4 жыл бұрын
im sure you scored some serious points with all bodymen and painters with that salute Tony... are the words you're looking for "volumetric-efficiency?"..intake manifold WTF?.. back here in the hills the best oldtimers still call them "centerheads."....haha but nolol.
@doctim1113 жыл бұрын
Bless you, I don't have the patience for body work.
@mikemcintosh50554 жыл бұрын
Also on dual plane manifolds the floor of the manifold below the carb. is at different height to each other left side to right side with a divider between. That way the 4 runners for each side can run under or over the other runners providing longer runners for better low rpm performance or street running.
@edfrawley43564 жыл бұрын
I was positive Tony was going to break out the Early Hemi Cross Ram manifold for instructional purposes. Why else would you need a completely clean work table?
@cdoublejj4 жыл бұрын
for the #5 #6 sequential firing engines there is a cam shaft that swaps the firing order to spread out the pulses for a more even burn
@95Sn953 жыл бұрын
I've been running an original torker with a 2" tall spread bore adapter on a mild 355 for years in cars and trucks an it's works rock solid good low rpm Tq especially for an open pleanum. I ran a modded 800 Qjet it made good HP but the idle circuit never liked the intake/cam combo it always ran super rich down low. A buddy gave me a old cheap 1406 600 Eddy and no it doesn't have the top end pull but drivability and mpg sky rocketed.
@Richardzmaxdragway4 жыл бұрын
Hey Uncle Tony you should talk about motorcycles and their intake length. Most motorcycles operate at doubled RPMs of a car. Somewhere between 4000 and 10000. You see how small the intake runners are on a motorcycle. It explains your principal. Also how V8s that ran at Grand Prix have individual carburetors or injectors at each cylinder. Those engines were designed for high RPM. Whereas your average streetcar benefits from a dual-plane because of the length of runner versus RPM that benefits the wave you were talking about
@donellmuniz5904 жыл бұрын
Mopar dont make motorcycles, except for that Viper motored freak show 20 years ago.
@lloydgreen40914 жыл бұрын
UTG--I like the vids. Been watching since the start up. The carb tech info was GREAT. It seems to me the only ones that thought this explanation was good, were the ones that Already Knew. I think I would have gotten more from this vid if Uncle Kathy was explaining this subject. I take it that a Dual Plane would be better for my 351W '84 Fox?
@DoktorJeep4 жыл бұрын
Finally after all these years...
@campbellpaul4 жыл бұрын
This is great information.. Thanks Tony
@ericheine24144 жыл бұрын
The trick to body work is professional tools. Pneumatic tools. Let the tools do the work. Basically you just guide them and hold them there. Your DA should spin fast enough for the sandpaper to cut and clear. You can hear it. Fast enough but not too fast. Block sanding by hand with spatter is good for large flat surfaces. Work the diagonals. Compound curves take more time. I know a 75 year old man who is really good at it. A lot of it's like frosting a cake. It's easier to straighten out something that's more or less straight to begin with. If it's got more than three non factory angles on it, or it's been tacoed- shitcan it.
@bradyhicks13814 жыл бұрын
Keep feathering it brotherman 🐔
@95Sn954 жыл бұрын
I have a sbc built up smoggers and decent Howard cam and I had an old Eddy original Torker intake and a 2" spacer dread bore adapter and surprising to me it jams it has great torque right off the bottom in a 92 c1500 with 3:08 gears...! I didn expect it., Mash the throttle off idle and it will light the tires. Even with the stock converter I had to put back in temporary my built trans with 2500 stall failed after 8 years
@joracer14 жыл бұрын
Exactly, I would add sp intakes have a large shared Pentium, while the dual planes have a smaller partially shared Plentum now in recent years they found cutting a small notch between the 2 plentums increases the top end power of a dp without hurting the bottom, older dp intakes the division goes all the way to the carb..but you can also help them with carb spacers, a dual plane intake will walk all over single planes up until about 5000 then hold their own until about 6200 then start to fall off....at least on a sbc 350. The only time a sp intake is at an advantage is if your rpm never falls below 5000 like on a large oval track. People are killing the performance of their street engines just to get the cool look of a sp intake. The dyno shows this.
@dannylinc62473 жыл бұрын
Conditions light, time, waiting, chemical reactions, buying more and more materials that dry up or evaporate. Crouching, bending, sanding, having an air fed hood. The smell, the outside temp. Direct sun. Rain shower. Body work is a PITA unless you dedicate a service area to it and keep all reactionary materials out, and out of the air. You cannot have dirty clothes or hands you have from mechanic work. The metal work and dent work is an art. Some chemicals were dangerous but they worked well. They don't actually make the dangerous ones like they used to. So, now, you have to refinish more often or sell it soon. Yes, body work takes constant thought for all these factors if you're mechanically minded instead of body being your one and only. But they are such a pay-off when it comes out right. I've seen guys pay thousands to a skilled painter to get a deep shine and perfect results. They were without the vehicle for a long time. Some guys have had to go take their car back and box everything up. They are still trying to solve issues with parts being missing or not really knowing where things went and how they were. Having your partner make a video with you as you go? It could be priceless if you don't organize well and you're not an experienced pro.
@wesalker34792 жыл бұрын
Same thing with long and short tube headers for the exact same reasons. Sonic resonance acts like a turbo for a specific RPM.
@chadreynolds68044 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate your sharing of knowledge. I love old school rodding. You clearly know your shit. ;) thanks so much.
@robt33053 жыл бұрын
Actually the 426 wedge cross ram proved it can be done with carbs, just a lot more sensitive to details like engine temp along with other factors.
@conchrisafis26174 жыл бұрын
Brilliant keep the vids rolling man very simple 👌
@StarlightWorkshop0z4 жыл бұрын
I don't mean to sound rude but,, I got worried when I heard the Vibrating noises in the background. As long as uncle Kath is happy 😎
@StarlightWorkshop0z4 жыл бұрын
@@oldpolak5203 my bad. I'm a bit out there
@guyderagisch49644 жыл бұрын
Runner length, head flow, and cam selection all go hand in hand.
@watzonda2b4 жыл бұрын
Tony, Looks like progress on the Dart....it's gonna look great. Weeee waaant Rain.....no I mean Slant 6, weee waaant slant 6.
@remington3514 жыл бұрын
I don't know anything about intake manifolds, but I do know that NYC mandated 10 digit phone numbers in 2003. I'm curious how many boxes of Del's Auto Repair shirts UT has in his basement cause the printing on that shirt looks pretty new for a 17 year old shirt!