Intel Arc B570 'Battlemage' GPU Review & Benchmarks, Low-End CPU Tests, & Efficiency

[@GamersNexus]

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[@PleyVi]

Can I ask why the comparison between the older cpus vs newer, instead of rebar on and off? I was thinking its already "discovered" and tested, that the problem is rebar, not the cpu itself being old, so I was expecting expanding on that specific topic, or maybe even ask a question if that is something somebody should be worried about, and how old platform need to be not not even have rebar.

[@Gray_Falcon]

I'm curious about performance with raytracing. I would like to see testing done on Indiana jones. If games are going to start requiring raytracing I want to know how the intel cards perform in an environment where its the only option.

[@someawesome7984]

Review for low-end GPU almost irrelevant on your chanell. People that buy in this budget don't care about 4k and even 1440p resolutions, same for ultra-settings in AAA-games or RT perfomance. They didn't play games at 28-32 fps. And they don't care how perfomance of 3060 stack up to 4090. They care about getting 60 fps in 1080p to play with vsinc enabled, without drops and spiky frametime, with good input lag. Or play a bunch of competitive games (CS, Fortnite, Pubg, DOTA, WoT etc.) with low settings at higher fps possible. So you get all wrong about how benchmarking this products. In single-player games - 60 fps is a ground, the question is - with what settings you can get it? In competititve games - what input lag and consistency you get at the same low "competitive" settings?

[@wnxdafriz]

??? are the brackets in the benchmarks (12/24) or (1/25) dates they were tested or mean something else?? because its 1/16, just wondering if its a typo and supposed to be (1/15) as the day tested with drivers as I'm confused what those numbers mean..... unless this video came from the future then I apologize for the stupid question

[@AwesomeBlackDude]

No, just no. You can’t keep dropping new shiny reviews every other day-that’s straight-up against KZbin’s Terms of Service Policies. WTF, bro? Seriously? 😳😭

[@nisselassen]

As a owner of the 1080Ti... its getting so much harder to choose whether to stay or upgrade, whilst thinking the whole GPU economy is so incredibly overpriced.

[@GamersNexus]

The 1080 Ti truly is the GOAT!

[@LifeCompanionDogs8083]

9070xt is going to be phenomenal.

[@rkwjunior2298]

Lol. You must not be picky about frame rate. ..lol

[@TheJamesKF]

One of the if not the greatest! I ask every 1080ti owner this.. Did you buy it new at launch for 6-700 USD and if so why not buy another 6-700 USD card that is a significant upgrade to the 1080ti now all these years later? Adjusted for inflation that 6-700 is even more. Of course if you got one used for 200 USD or less yes it is going to be tough to beat for similar cost today.

[@Eepy-Rose]

I'm willing to bet the 5070 Ti or 5080 should be a pretty decent upgrade if you're looking for something in a similar price range to the 1080 Ti when it launched. If you're looking at budget stuff then ehh you might wanna wait another GPU generation unless there's a game you want to play that you can't run. But the B580 or B570 looks to be a decent option.

[@audiogarden21]

I think it's pretty impressive for Intel in merely two generations of GPU to largely have caught up to the two giants in this space given their performance tiers and pricing.

[@gorky_vk]

Caught up? Only if you ignore how big die and power needs of this card is. It's a flop, good for US consumers as this fake MSRP is there somewhat available but Intel obviously used that only to get good reviews and expect for rest of the world to pay for difference between what they need to make this profitable (or at least to be at 0).

[@zingwilder9989]

@@gorky_vk Flop is right! It was ludicrous launch!

[@djhokage1]

Only halfway true tho, they have been in the GPU space 27 for years now.

[@PixelatedWolf2077]

Wrong. Their old iGPU before Iris-Xe can't be apart of this "GPU" thing as it technically was meant as a display output and nothing more. Technically, Intel started up properly on the GPU business when they came out with Iris-Xe, before going into Xe Max and that was their .5 of a Generation. Intel Arc Alchemist came out and that was their first proper start

[@moira4707]

They haven't *really* caught up - they're using much bigger dies than AMD and Nvidia for those cards, despite using similar lithography nodes. Most likely that's the reason they can't scale to high-performance cards yet - they'd be way too big and power-hungry to make sense

[@TC2290-wh5cb]

Just hope Intel pushes on and doesn't shut Arc down, we need competition.

[@CXIN2B]

The ball is in their court. And bank. How far can they fund coming up short? Cause idk a single person who uses an Intel card due to these videos. The community that frequents the store all say that they don't wanna invest in bs problems they'll have to troubleshoot and with Intel being so new, they won't commit to getting any products that aren't cpu's

[@CXIN2B]

Edit: Intel GPU being so new, i meant, obviously

[@ajkulac9895]

buying > hoping

[@SansAppellation]

I'm not holding out much hope. Their own road map promised "enthusiast" tier cards for Battlemage launching in 2023-2024. Yet, all we got was one entry level card in December of the second year. Doesn't instill confidence

[@Megaman231122]

​@@SansAppellation one incredibly well received, well selling mid range card undercutting the current market which is inflating in price. Intel is seeing success. The GPU branch if anything will branch off

[@SippyCup_Official]

Jensen saw this $220 card with 10GB of vram and wiped a single tear away with a $100 bill.

[@xKB616]

Why would he use his toilet paper on his face? He’d be using a leather handkerchief, like a real gentleman! /s

[@auturgicflosculator2183]

@@xKB616 The finest monogrammed lambskin chamois, of course.

[@fafdus]

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[@terryjohnson3100]

Thank you for all of this work. The sheer amount of configurations that could affect a product are insane. AMD vs Intel, x3d vs not, more graphics cards, resolution, etc. Completely mind blowing...

[@GamersNexus]

There can be literally millions of combinations of hardware! Pretty wild.

[@Krushx0]

@@GamersNexus you need THE MEGACHART with DROPDOWN MENUS :D, mabye a tech reviewer scene team effort. Especially now that AMD tries to switch to sku overlord confusion tactic with different categories accel in different thing. If others try to push this we and especially you the tech reviewer scene will have a problem. We already have the problem to figure out and pick the right hardware synergy without having big gap in bottleneck and not pay unnecessary when we have literal see of hardware choices and combinations, somehow this needs to be alleviated somehow.

[@hefty8876]

This is exactly why optimizing a PC game can be so difficult for devs.

[@mikenelson263]

@@GamersNexus I really really appreciate your methodology, and your considerations at the first part of the video. Thank you. This is at the heart of why some of us have criticized your (and other reviewers') methodology. Checking with a few tests to at least confirm that your usual assumptions about performance scaling behaviour still hold before going on to do standard tests gives a huge boost to the confidence we can have in your results in the end. We understand the combinations are mind blowing, we do, but this level of cross-checking is extremely valuable to us. Again, thank you.

[@Zorbino88]

@@GamersNexus this is one of the reasons why I've shied away from building my own PC lately. The higher the combinations of hardware, the higher the chance something really niche and random could go wrong. If I get a prebuilt and something goes wrong, I make them figure it out. It's so hard to keep up these days (my first built PC was around 2005 as a Junior in HS, times were much simpler back then...)

[@ManIkWeet]

I can't believe Steve didn't point out that FPS/W is the same as Frame per Joule!

[@SvenHeidemann-uo2yl]

Yeah, feels like a first.

[@GamersNexus]

Hahaha

[@deepspacewanderer9897]

yay, he/they understood that clear communication is more important that cancelling out as many units as possible.

[@mightychev]

@@deepspacewanderer9897 i thought we were going to get it as frames/pizza from now on. So disappointed.

[@eggdish]

I would prefer fps minutes per kilowatt-hour

[@NCCountryLiving]

We need a B770!!

[@connivingkhajiit]

I hope we get one

[@Demios101]

Christ tell me about it!

[@Metraunakow]

Yeah fr

[@Fortzon]

The longer Intel is waiting and not announcing whether or not B770 is even a thing, the more I'm inclined to just buy AMD's RX 7900 GRE or RX 9070.

[@enriquedossantos3283]

with 40cus, and 32 gigs of ram for 700 dollars

[@ShaunaJagan]

The Power Consumption charts (Idle & Efficiency) are so good! Keep it going, please ✌

[@GamersNexus]

Thank you!

[@fabrb26]

​@@GamersNexus Any chance you add lock to 60fps efficiency in the futur ?

[@VatiWah]

i concur. idle wattage for CPU and GPU is probably just as important since half the time, our computers are idle or doing low task like watching youtube or typing up papers.

[@Monsicek]

I dont think they have ASPM L0/L1 enabled in BIOS and power plan set to maximum power saving for PCIE as they should. B580 idles around 13W what I saw in different review.

[@jackboudreaux5883]

Totally agree, the idle power in my use case would steer me to the 4060.

[@jd5441]

No one will ever know I'm shtting at work rn. Even Steve won't find out. Edit: shit...... this comment blew up. no pun intended.

[@visionop8]

🤣

[@CMasta121]

How many Courics?

[@crazypimpschool]

same

[@TheGuykilla]

Same

[@worldwar208]

Same I get paid to watch Steve with my pants down.😂

[@592Johno]

9:50 i just wanna take a moment to give a big shout out to the editor for guiding the viewer to the benchmark Steve is talking about. As a viewer it can get hard to follow along especially when looking at data and trying to interpret them on the fly. So major props to you.

[@nimbydimby]

Those GN charts are not suited for these types of comparison (additional variables on top of GPU). HW Unboxed does a much much better job since their tools give them much more flexibility.

[@fafdus]

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[@itsuadman]

I have to say thank you so much for the bars on the sides to indicate how long sections are. Also i cant wait to get this years disappointment build shirt ill have '21 '22 '23 and '24!

[@GamersNexus]

I'll let Andrew know! He introduced those bars probably almost 10 years ago now! They've been awesome.

[@keashaneverts4452]

dude you are collecting the Infinity stones of Dissapointments haha in shirt from, personally i think 24" takes it tho as the Reality stone, ya know, since ppl out here making it whtevr they want

[@antonkirilenko3116]

@@GamersNexusThanks, Steve.

[@quantum5661]

@@GamersNexus you GN folks are great

[@jgchicken2133]

As a A770 user I think Intel really outdone themselves. B580 firmly beating the A770 as a mid-range card, with the $220 B570 getting really close. B570 might very much be the best value card this generation. I might not upgrade anytime soon but it's nice to see this much improvement and keeping up with the competition!!

[@FastTcX]

Some say they are much more silent and cooler. But as aA750 user I will not upgrade yet

[@EndgameThor16]

​@@FastTcXas a fellow a750 user, I'm not gonna upgrade till am6 releases 😭💀🙏

[@KadiusFTW]

I may just buy one for the wifeys system, as the a770 16gb bifrost is more than enough for me

[@NMModder]

I might even consider for a cheap build for my nephew

[@redslate]

Eagerly awaiting a B770 release. 😊

[@davidlonglivelle]

Funny how this GPU released about a week ago here in indonesia without review and/or a usable driver lol

[@GamersNexus]

ha! Saw that online!

[@PunzL]

How's the stock availability? (asking from a close neighbor nation)

[@Ph0sph0]

Berapa harga indonya bro?

[@fazasusilo6805]

and the price , B570 at $280 and B580 at $340 is insane

[@davidlonglivelle]

@PunzL For B580 it's pretty good, I think I saw one store always ran out of stock at the end of the week and have them restock by the next monday. But since the review about the overhead problem seems like they sold it less and less. For the B570, the stock is also good, but I think it's because people don't want to buy it yet, since there was no review available

[@hquest]

Steve: we will test it with an older 12400 CPU. Me: looks in awe to my 10700k, just hanging the 6900XT in there…

[@GamersNexus]

The 10 series was great! So is the 6900 XT!

[@MrEminem]

still rocking my 10700k too :))

[@TheSastoke]

The 6900xt is still very good man

[@AnthonyFuller]

I'm still daily driving a 6900XT from 2021! It's a great GPU, and I upgraded to 1440p/165 mid last year (1080p/60 before, I needed the horsepower for non-gaming tasks). It's a bit of a stretch asking it to do that, but in a lot of games it can reach it perfectly with great quality!

[@NCshooter1213]

Me over here with my i5-8400 and rx580 4gb..lol. I'm gonna upgrade soon just don't know what to do first. Prolly gonna buy a 6700xt to get me buy till I get a whole new mobo

[@neongrey333]

I really appreciate how, when you open a video with a question, ie, "Does a poorer CPU make this video card worse?" you don't leave anyone hanging and just immediately go "No, not by much". I do want the details, but if I didn't, you wouldn't be wasting my time at all! Thank you!

[@fafdus]

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[@dj4aces]

"Don't get scalped" is great advice. I just wish we could avoid being scalped by Nvidia and AMD themselves.

[@fafdus]

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[@Punisher9419]

It is nice to see older cards on the charts like the 1070. Still a lot of people using those cards.

[@imjust_a]

As someone who's still on a 1070, it's much appreciated! I'm eyeing the Battlemage cards, but I've had some hesitations... Scalping being one of them, haha.

[@Mr_Nowh3re]

Yeah only get it at MSRP ​@@imjust_a

[@FilthEffect]

​@@imjust_apre-order one.

[@Punisher9419]

@@imjust_a Also still on my 1070. Still a good GPU though, I manage to play Cyberpunk at 4k at around 30-45 fps so I can't complain too much. Just have to turn the screen space reflects off and use dynamic resolution scalling in XeSS. Looks fairly good. A card around £350-£400 would be nice but these days I know that won't get you much. Would love a 9070XT to be around 7900XTX performance for that money but I know that is unlikely.

[@ijosef]

Absolutely. A friend of my just retired his old 1070 last month, upgrading to a 2080TI. While it was a huge boost, he's still technically a few generations behind. I stuck with my GTX 970 until just two years ago, and I'm only on an RTX 3060 12GB now.

[@pawegaluch9442]

I am installing drivers for it right now ! super excited !

[@pawegaluch9442]

@@MaximéGodMode 6 people

[@ShroudedWolf51]

....why not watch the review and THEN order once you know it's actually worthwhile?

[@pawegaluch9442]

@@ShroudedWolf51 I didn't want to wait

[@PixelatedWolf2077]

​@@ShroudedWolf51Because some people are willing to deal with the issues it has. Your friend with their A750s have had issues but me with my MSI Claw never had any issues besides stuttering, which is a trait of Alchemist

[@3masouri]

@@ShroudedWolf51this isn’t the 1st review of the B570/80

[@AndersaurusR3X]

Thanks for doing these videos GN.

[@GamersNexus]

Thank you for watching!

[@DomWood]

@@GamersNexus you guys are crushing it and the standard has only gone UP since I subbed many moons ago. I'm so glad to see GN rocketing into the position of broad respect and reference that you have worked so hard to build towards.

[@nimbydimby]

I for one am not happy with a suite of just 6 games and a myriad of unnecessary sub-test of the same games. Give me a well curated set of games that will cover at least 90 % of performance scenarios and bottlenecks I can encounter in the game sphere and I will be a happier man. I have been following GN since 2015 but this review specifically has left me disappointed - yes, "from our testing" CPU issues do not show. I guess GN has gone LTT here and it's for the worse. They should learn from this, not pretend this is business as usual. Their suite and set of tests clearly show limitations no matter what they say about CPU scaling (that's not the point, the point is RTX and AMD perform proportionately better (the performance hit isn't that big as with Intel) with lower end CPUs and that is an important takeaway if you are reviewing a value low-end GPU). Yes, not all games are affected, but if you're playing Fortnite on lowest details trying to get max frame rate and taxing the CPU to the max, you will get worse results on that Intel GPU.

[@fafdus]

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[@Dank_Lulu]

A decend, brand-new GPU that doesn't cost more than twice the rest of the PC... didn't really thing we'd get those. My mind cannot process how Intel wound-up being to GPUs what AMD was to CPUs a long time ago in a galaxy far away...

[@daviddebroux4708]

I wouldn't be surprised if Intel then took the route that AMD and NVIDIA did during the pandemic once their GPUs take hold in the market. 😓

[@fafdus]

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[@Mr_Nowh3re]

I bought the B580 to get a piece of tech history ❤

[@D3M3NT3Dstrang3r]

Same, and I am happy with the purchase. It out performs my 3070 in most games that don't favor dlss, or other rtx specific features, and it does so on an 3700x where the 3070 is on a 5700x. I don't regret this purchase as the other options in this price range are used or just plain suck.

[@Mr_Nowh3re]

@@D3M3NT3Dstrang3r it's amazing to me that Intel was able to match anything of this generation and the last generation in just ONE generation! It's an amazing feat of modern engineering!

[@fafdus]

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[@D3M3NT3Dstrang3r]

@@Mr_Nowh3re Hopefully they can continue to improve and innovate in this sector. It's funny that intel is positioning theirselves to do to the gpu market what amd did to the cpu market and breath some fresh air into the stagnation that has formed here.

[@kimutone2970]

@@D3M3NT3Dstrang3r I'd say you're better off playing at 1440p, at that res it shines and the CPU overhead problems diminish by quite a lot, although you shouldn't have them to begin with on a 5700x. It's people still runing Ryzen 2000 and 3000 that should worry

[@MoonBunnyLovers]

When Intel said they weren't aiming for high end, I hope they didn't mean the B770 isn't going to come out ever...

[@nickd7935]

I’d assume that a B770 would just be way too power hungry and too big/costly of a die to be economical based on the B580’s die size

[@fafdus]

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[@NotBedWays]

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[@bobobaggins95]

There was a perfect "thanks Steve" opportunity after talking about 3x the work, could have been poetic in an intel review

[@fafdus]

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[@eddiehimself]

Back in my day, $220 was a lot of money to spend on a GPU. Now it's the "low end." Insanity.

[@Retro-Iron11]

That $220 now is the same buying power of $75 back in the day.

[@mightychev]

@@Retro-Iron11 exactly, i bought an x1950 pro for £95 back in 2006, I'd expect to spend at least 3x that now for GPU before we even get into how much better entry level gaming is now. You can run pretty much anything if you are prepared to turn some settings down. Back then, entry level couldn't. (see Crysis lol)

[@4GoodFever]

groceries today are almost twice as expensive as it was 7 years ago.

[@supersardonic1179]

Look up the word "Inflation" Thank me later.

[@Klovaneer]

idk what your back in the day is but 1660ti launched at 280 in Q1 2019 (that's 6 years ago)

[@dlararomero]

Thanks steve, for testing with the Intel CPU.

[@fafdus]

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[@jackofspaidz_]

more competition = more options for consumers, hope AMD and Intel both start competing in other areas than the low end of consumer GPUs

[@foldionepapyrus3441]

I really don't think they need to compete at the current high end, as to me Nvidia has lost the plot in how far they have pushed the high end. Almost nobody really should be wanting to put a 600 ish Watt GPU of that price in their system! It is just too hot, too expensive to run, and the performance uptick it brings really isn't worth it for most folks when compared to the lower-mid range Nvidia or the Intel/AMD competitors that are targeting that part of Nvidia's range... The 4090 and now 5090 are insanely impressive in some ways, but so expensive, so power hungry they just don't make much sense for the general public level of gamer.

[@reheyesd8666]

We need serious competition in the higher end too. Intel or AMD won't bother tbh, DLSS is too good.

[@john_in_phoenix]

Once you get the lower end right, the high end will follow (I hope).

[@Aereto]

​@@john_in_phoenix Knowing Nvidia, I doubt it. Ray tracing and Frame Generation has its own downsides, and developers not having option to turn it off unnecessarily raises the hardware requirements

[@john_in_phoenix]

@@Aereto I was speaking of Intel, just FYI.

[@legojack-c3l]

finally a worthy card to replace my 1050ti lol

[@jeffreygrindle6396]

1050ti tired boss 1050ti needs a break

[@boryshernandez2476]

@@MaximéGodMode cry harder

[@MutheiM_Marz]

@@MaximéGodMode​​⁠​​⁠I have 2 Toyota trucks, Komatsu backhoe, a ranch and house and I use 1050ti. Some people not poor, they just have a life outside playing games. Or they are poor, but smart enough to not spend on something unnecessary. Do you buy a pc with your own money or asking mommy or daddy for your 4090 ?? Mister rich polish man here poor shaming people on the internet like some kind of a big shot….

[@InvadeNormandy]

@@MaximéGodMode Your dad must hate you.

[@StarsAtNight1]

I just hope your cpu isnt from the same year

[@RinoaL]

If intel makes a super tiny Battlemage card, such as single slot, I'd love to buy it to put in a tiny slim PC case I'm designing to look like a 1990s Thinkpad tablet. I'd use it for FFXIV.

[@eyersadul]

Wait b380, b310 realese

[@RinoaL]

@@eyersadul I'm not sure if those will release this cycle, from what I understand the A310 was a way to reuse binned chips.

[@cecilb7927]

IIRC it was possible to swap a A310 single slot cooler onto a A380, maybe that will happen again, I would really like to see a low profile B380, as would millions of SFF office PC owners, especially as the 8th and 9th gen PCs are hitting the bargain bin, and 10th Gen systems are popping up on the surplus market for under $100

[@markminch1906]

It would be great for people that want the ultra low power home lab, since Intel arc cards were really good in encoding and decoding. A next gen one with maybe even lower power draw would be awesome

[@MichaelOfRohan]

​@RinoaL say what you will about the gt1030, its better thank any integrated graphics out there.

[@TiagoMorbusSa]

This is a very useful video to show how so many people fundamentally misunderstand the words "bottleneck" and "limited". They are not the same thing. Thank you GN!

[@fafdus]

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[@WayStedYou]

Liquid metal scrying sounds dangerous

[@GamersNexus]

Only for those untrained.

[@mexicanopdb]

@@GamersNexus But can I learn this art from the Jedi?

[@deepspacewanderer9897]

depends on the metal. Gallium melts at 30°C

[@fafdus]

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[@youtubevanced4900]

I had a look this morning in Australia. The B580 is back in stock in shops with the release of the B570. However the price has gone up $40 and the B570 has launched at the price the B580 launched at. Glad I got one from the launch batch.

[@nogravitas7585]

I had a look and there is still one store in Victoria selling for the original price but yeah disgusting that every other store would take the chance to pricejack the 580 before even listing the 570 it would make fairly comparing the two on value impossible to the average consumer who doesn't know historical pricing charts exist. You want to support local business but then they do this cartel tier price fixing collusion garbage so ordering dodgy stuff off china direct looks more and more attractive despite the risks, story of Australia I guess.

[@TeamMuggi]

I swear I've seen this exact pair of comments at least twice before, but with RTX 3000 and RTX 2000 instead of ARC B cards.

[@youtubevanced4900]

@ are you saying that history is repeating itself?

[@fafdus]

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[@nogravitas7585]

@TeamMuggi People say the national passtime is sport and/or betting on sport but it is actually bragging about how much you marked up a thing that sold or complaining about how much a thing for sale has been marked up compared to overseas.

[@natjimoEU]

I think Battlemage is the best thing that's happened to the GPU market in a while. Can't wait to buy the B570!

[@ployth9000]

you can pre order it now and its actually in stock

[@natjimoEU]

@@ployth9000 where?

[@SL4PSH0CK]

after almost a decade since 10-series thsi actually got me use a PSU calculator and check benchmarks

[@natjimoEU]

Update: I just bought it lol.

[@SL4PSH0CK]

@ im waiting for local retailers to restock here. id be the same next month.

[@DaveeeDavee]

Nvidia: Budget gamers don't deserve to game. Intel: i got you budget gamers. Clearly intel still have lots of work to do if they really wants to compete in the GPU market but B570/B580 is a good start. Hope they continue to get better in the future.

[@mightychev]

also Intel - we've finally caught up to where the budget range was 4 years ago, just as the new generation of Nvidia/AMD cards are set to make us look really bad

[@neuronic85]

@@mightychev They'll catch up if the continue to be less greedy than the competition.

[@fafdus]

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[@fbelard]

Are there many other youtubers who avoid teleprompters? It's been years since I've heard "pun unintentional" from a host, and that's because it's a really unlikely thing to say when reading off a prompter. Anyway I love it, it's really enjoyable to get carried away in Steve's flow and follow his train of thought. And being only loosely scripted obviously brings the review itself up a notch. I hope you guys are around for a long, long time.

[@fafdus]

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[@fbelard]

@@fafdus **panics** 🤔 .. THANKS, STEVE

[@nexusxe]

Loving this dedication amongst everything else going on in the industry and world as a whole

[@GamersNexus]

Thank you! It's crazy right now.

[@fafdus]

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[@Cwrigh25]

Ah nothing like benchmarks for breakfast.

[@Cobinja]

That's probably what the GN team will be saying for the next couple weeks with all the GPU reviews to do.

[@ikategame]

That’s what you’re going with? Really? You might as well be saying “I love air” or “coffee is hot” because that’s how uninspired and laughably basic your input is. Who hurt you, man? Is this your best shot at sounding like you’re in the tech game? Because all it’s doing is proving you’re desperately grasping at the bottom of the barrel for something that could pass as insightful. If benchmarks are what you eat for breakfast, then I guess your brain must be running on dial-up speed because that was the least engaging, most recycled thought I’ve heard all day. What’s next, are you going to tell us "the CPU is the brain of the PC" or "RTX is better than GTX"? Wow, stop the presses, we’ve got a real tech visionary in the building.

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[@SuperStareGry]

The suggested prices are a joke. In germany b580 costs close 350eur while rtx 4060 costs less than 300eur not even mentioning rx6800 used that can be had for 250eur. So this cut down version will be close to 300eur.

[@mightychev]

people still want £400-£600 for a 6800 2nd hand in the UK. I don't know what they're smoking :)

[@SuperStareGry]

@mightychev bought reference 6800 which is still very nice in Germany for 260eur shipped. I guess that's very low but you can get one easy for 280 which I still think is a good price for such a nice gpu that will be still usable for few years.

[@mightychev]

@ yeah still a great card, you got a good deal

[@SuperStareGry]

@mightychev 500eur that's 7800xt territory so what I paid I feel is actual market value. And that is OK of course.

[@dvornikovalexei]

Germans are smarter than Americans to not buy this waste of sand anyways lmao

[@JamesAlternam]

I can't imagine the extra hours it took to retest the GPU with last-gen (or earlier) CPU's, but it's appreciated, especially by someone still on AM4 and not planning on upgrading any time soon.

[@djbiscuit1818]

To be fair, a 5700/5800X3D we'll probably have plenty of performance to prevent CPU bottlenecking in games.

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[@deejayf69]

I'm rooting for Intel to continue to deliver some affordable GPU options and become a worthy competitor to shake up the market. The competition is desperately necessary.

[@JustWingingIt-s5f]

As someone that is still running an i5-10400 and an RX 570 8GB, thank you for including those older cards so I have a frame of reference for what an upgrade would look like for me. Keep up the awesome work!

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[@silkmonkey]

Man, I miss when this was midrange GPU pricing. My first one I remember buying myself was around this price (8800 GT?GTS?). Keep up the good work Steve n crew!

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[@haka8702]

It's a very challenging industry to get into, due to software/driver support and complexity. I think it is impressive that Intel is able to get into this successfully. One can only hope they improve and start becoming a competitor to Nvidia and AMD, we need the variety

[@OscarFowler]

Intel has been in the graphics industry and supporting graphics drivers for well over 20 years.

[@chronyk743]

did you game on chipset graphics before on Intel like 15 years ago?

[@or1on89]

@@chronyk743 I did, on laptops XD

[@-in-the-meantime...]

$250 for a 2k/1440p card... pretty darn competitive. Possibly you mean high end segment competitive.

[@chronyk743]

@ I had Asus P5G41T-M-LX 775 board with dual-core Celeron and gaming on the chipset graphics Intel ICH7. This guy doesn't know that Intel has been doing this for over 20+ years on graphics.

[@alex75hgft]

Thanks for testing lower end CPUs, that is real world scenario for a low end graphics card. Also comparing them to old gpus to show the real world gains is great.

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[@tuckerhiggins4336]

Whoever bought a 6700xt at the right time really did themselves a favor

[@Wingnut4161]

I sit at home and binge tech reviews. These are the most easy to discern, user friendly graphs Ive ever seen. The hourglass effect blue graphics on the sides to guide the viewer with the commentary is brilliant.

[@RYzE_B3Y0ND]

Man this thing is priced so well. I wouldn’t hesitate building someone a budget box with this and say an i5 or Ryzen 5.

[@llothar68]

$350 is not cheap and the scalpers already 100% control the 580 market 😢

[@kaydog890]

@llothar68 less comment section, more job.

[@avananana]

@@llothar68 Mate, $350 is incredibly cheap for a GPU nowadays. Sure, $350 is a pretty hefty chunk of money and if the card is worth it is a whole other story, but it's still cheap. 'Cheap' and 'expensive' are both relative terms in relation to the alternatives. Obviously scalpers upping the price by two-fold isn't helping anyone, either.

[@Dhruv-qw7jf]

You can get a 4060 for that price, so no it's not cheap. Or if you say it like this, it's not as cheap as it should be compared to the competition. ​@@avananana

[@Giliver]

Intel GPUs should NOT be going into some noobs build, it'll only end badly. There are way to many issues for someone new to the scene to troubleshoot constantly.

[@bob23301]

I will just stick with my rtx4060 because it just works even though my cpu is a ancient I7 4770, it all just works 1080p 60 fps for say BL3 or FH5 and FM8, and 1440p for rts games......job done.

[@Aktuvor]

That's an ancient piece of hardware. Good to hear it's still running strong

[@fafdus]

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[@Dan-Simms]

3x the work but only 2x the charts? That's efficiency!

[@fafdus]

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[@saikiranj807]

Thank you for the work you folks do, we greatly appreciate it❤

[@ikategame]

What a saintly gesture-like you’re some kind of charitable patron of the arts with a heart of gold. Too bad it’s coming from someone who’s probably incapable of lifting a finger to contribute anything of value. Your "appreciation" is as hollow as your brain when it comes to critical thinking. You think saying something nice makes you special? News flash: this ain't a feel-good movie, and nobody’s lining up for a standing ovation because you managed to scrape together a half-hearted compliment. Next time, spare us the fake gratitude and maybe try doing something useful yourself. You’d be a lot less irritating that way.

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[@Derek-mg2le]

Appreciate the extra work put into this!

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[@juhanimertanen3452]

I was able to get B580 Asrock Steel Legend for 340€ (this includes crazy taxes in my country) and I am really happy with it. It's price is currently 380€, so still cheaper than 4060 Ti

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[@reheyesd8666]

5600 cpu is insane value for money tbh.

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[@Wild_Cat]

Intel arc ftw 🗣️

[@ItsDaddyDevito]

Thank you thank you for putting out a lwoer cpu benchmark!!! im on ryzen 5 3600 and not planning on uprgrading

[@fafdus]

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[@deeecks8103]

Should use Arma 3 to test CPU overhead, its renderer is very CPU-heavy so if an overhead issue exists, you'll certainly find it with that game

[@ikategame]

Yeah, let's test CPU overhead with a game that’s been known for its terrible optimization and broken performance for years. Wow, groundbreaking. Next, you’ll tell me to test "Overwatch" for GPU performance or "Minecraft" for RAM stress. Truly revolutionary. You’re acting like Arma 3 is some untapped treasure of CPU stress testing when it’s honestly just a buggy, resource-hogging mess that’s known for completely wasting any hardware you throw at it. Do you seriously think suggesting a notoriously unoptimized game is going to prove anything about a CPU’s performance? Spoiler alert: it won’t. All it’ll prove is that you have no clue how proper benchmarking works. Here’s a thought-before you start pulling random game titles out of your ass as “perfect test subjects,” maybe you should do a little research and stop embarrassing yourself by recommending a game that hasn’t seen proper optimization since it launched. Stick to the basics, buddy.

[@nimbydimby]

@@ikategame The Intel GPUs do have issues with CPU overhead. He's just pointing out the obvious: GN doesn't have any game that is impacted by this in their suite of games (which is very limited at the count of 6 - and that is not representative of all engines and optimization levels we see across all games) and what they are not seeing here would be made obvious testing ARMA or War Thunder (take a look at HW Unboxed review: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKathIGYi76rjKMsi=UR7msB_HZf8GUeaH&t=543). The bottom line is: with mid to lower end CPUs, Nvidia and AMD perform better in CPU intensive games.

[@ikategame]

@nimbydimby Let’s break this down because you’re clearly trying to sound smarter than you actually are. First off, the “Intel GPUs have issues with CPU overhead” is such a hot take, it’s practically on fire with the obvious. Thanks for pointing out the blindingly obvious thing that everybody already knows, Sherlock. But then, you continue on to act like your “knowledge” is some deep dive into GPU performance. If you really think pointing out that Intel has CPU overhead issues somehow makes you a tech guru, you're sadly mistaken. You bring up GN and claim their game suite is "limited"-six games? Is that the best you can do to discredit them? You know there are hundreds of game benchmarks out there, right? Just because you don’t agree with their testing methods doesn’t mean they’re useless. You sound like a keyboard warrior trying to invalidate someone else’s work because it doesn't fit into your little box. And here’s where you start digging deeper into stupidity: “Take a look at HW Unboxed”? Oh wow, you just linked a video like it’s some magical piece of proof that can override any counterargument. Nice try, but no one’s impressed by you playing the “here’s a KZbinr’s opinion” card. Your whole argument boils down to two games, ARMA and War Thunder, like those are somehow the pinnacle of “CPU intensive” benchmarking? What do you expect them to do-run every game under the sun just to please your whining? You’re acting like there’s some grand conspiracy because you didn’t get the results you wanted from a handful of titles. And the cherry on top is this masterstroke: "With mid to lower end CPUs, Nvidia and AMD perform better in CPU intensive games." You don’t say? I had no idea, thanks for the earth-shattering revelation. It’s almost like different hardware performs differently based on the type of workload. If this was groundbreaking news, I'd be giving you a standing ovation. Instead, you just proved that not only do you lack a full understanding of benchmarks, but you're also out here recycling basic observations like they’re Pulitzer-worthy. Next time you try to sound intelligent, at least throw out something new or helpful instead of playing the “here’s a random KZbin video that supports my point” game. Keep it up, though. You're really making a strong case for why we shouldn't listen to you at all.

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[@johnanon6938]

Around 5:00 regarding testing is "remember kids, the only difference between screwing around and science, is writing it down"

[@fafdus]

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[@atzerk3854]

While hats off to Intel for these GPUs, especially considering the price point, 1% lows and 0.1% lows are painful. I have a setup with a 7900XTX and an i5 11600K....yeah, I know, I'm waiting for 9800X3D stock atm...My fps would be awesome most of the time, but 120 fps averages are quite hampered by 70 fps 1% lows and such in my case, for example. This means that I'm CPU bottlenecked half the time, while the other half my 1% lows are abysmal, and knowing this, similar average performance of the B570 does not hold a candle to stable 1% lows of other cards in my book. Don't get me wrong, I am all for Intel shaking up the market with ARC, and if they can fix these stability issues, they can prove to be a worthy competitor. These are still very much interesting products, regarding generational improvements over Alchemist, Battlemage is nuts, so looking forward to the future!

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[@Fin1nishingMove]

I applaud the choice of using CPUs that are more likely to be paired with these cards in the real world. It's been some time since I saw a pragmatic approach on this channel. Steve's been getting caught up in details or meta discussions and neglecting the things that a normal person would naturally think about.

[@AD34534]

That 10GB will age pretty well for such a budget card. Thank you Intel.

[@Dhruv-qw7jf]

7:59 there's a big difference in 1% lows and 0.1% lows with the lower-end CPUs with a B580, which is where such driver overhead issues are most likely to manifest anyway. But you don't even mention that, and just say that there's no substantial difference.

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[@RosePhoto1]

Wow, those LTT hate videos really make you a lot of money. Those videos are always good for a revenue boost when things are slow.

[@jackharmer5602]

one of the best gpu lunch in the last couple of years for sure

[@EndgameThor16]

"Gpu lunch" 😋

[@seeibe]

I feel like in the Twilight Zone. Everyone keeps saying the B580 is such a good deal, meanwhile after a month the card still can't be had at MSRP in any market, while AMD's direct competitor cards are actually available at cheaper prices for the same performance.

[@jackharmer5602]

@ good for you at our place some amd gpu are way more fking expensive then even the nvdia alternative

[@jackharmer5602]

@ 6900xt cost $1500-1800 at our place just an example💀

[@jordanplays-transitandgame1690]

​@@seeibesame thing happened with the 3000 series lol Intel should boost production or raise their prices

[@JIMMY-THE-JEW-FROM-PHILLY]

Yo Steve, I'm a new subscriber in the last week and I'm hooked on your channel already. You're a good guy fighting the good fight and not a sell out aka poser. Being called a poser in the 80s was like the worst insult you could call a metal head in 1986! LOL! You should really have way more subscribers than you do currently because of your level of integrity is so high. Young people need to learn integrity is one of the most important things in life instead of being first and inaccurate. Keep up the great work. I recently rescued an orange tabby named Buddy boy who was shot with a BB GUN and broken foot. Animal abusers will burn in hell. He's the most well behaved cat too and I had to spend months getting him to fully trust me due to the past abuse he suffered. As of this week, he's finally playing like a normal cat after I let him in my bed and realized he's not going to be abandoned again.

[@fafdus]

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[@JIMMY-THE-JEW-FROM-PHILLY]

@fafdus I think you're jealous of what type of guy he is, and you're a miserable little troll

[@nomorebathrobes]

Thanks Steve

[@dustojnikhummer]

Back to you Steve

[@fafdus]

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[@acoupleofschoes]

I can see two classes of benchmarking: one where everything not tested is as good/high powered as possible to best eliminate bottlenecks and show the tested part in the best case scenario, and two, where test bench parts are chosen "budget category" specific. If you're buying a $150 GPU, you're likely not buying a $700 CPU or a $400 motherboard. It would take a lot of editorial choice in part selection at different budgets, but I expect that is what people want out of a review: "How good is this part?" and "How good is this part actually going to be with what I already have, or can afford to build up/replace?".

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[@john_in_phoenix]

I'm just waiting to buy a B580 for under $300 rather than a 4060. Intel is doing a good job with these cards. I am currently running a 3060 that I seriously overpaid for during covid. Just upgraded my 5600 (no x or x3d) to a 5700x3d and 32 gig memory (newegg bundle). Since the monitor connected is only 1080p, I can wait until the price gets closer to MSRP.

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[@hadaar_]

Thank you for this. I think it's really helpful to have different CPU testing with GPUs since it gives consumers a better idea of what they might actually benefit from in their situation. It is a lot more work, though, so I understand why it's not something that you can do all the time.

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[@PsychoStreak]

Gotta say I'm loving the additional CPU's in this review. The combination of the no CPU bottleneck high end CPU and the very relevant "this is what people buying this GPU will likely be paring it with" data for budget to midrange CPUs.

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[@wahidtrynaheghugh260]

Only reason I haven’t considered buying an Intel gpu is they don’t have something that would be a significant upgrade or even compete with my 6800XT. The pricing of their current gpus seem very competitive and the improvements over alchemist are large. I think they’ve proven their competence and willingness to fix issues, they just need to compete in the big boy league with the same competitive pricing and I’m pretty much sold

[@LukeHimself]

14:35 *that A770 difference is WILD!!* 😳 It wasn't mentioned on that slide for some reason

[@_etwas]

Also noticed that It might actually be driver overhead or just missing optimization, if I had to guess

[@LukeHimself]

@@_etwas The A770 is in the middle of the list with the top tier CPU, and at the bottom of the list with the 5600X (which is no slouch, tbh). That difference was drastic.

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[@someawesome7984]

So, good old RX6600XT in all real scenario (1080p, budget cpu, more real game settings to get 60 fps vsinc) better than brand new b570? At the same price?! What a achievement! And a lot of games (old or even most modern) still did'nt run at all, or run awfully. And on older platforms, which people looking to upgrade for this money (like r5 2600X-3600 or core i 9400-10400) cpu overhead would be even worst? So where does all this admiration in the video come from?

[@pianissimo7121]

Wanted to get b580, it's simply better value. But it's not even being released in India. Finally decided to increase my budget and went for 7700xt. Really satisfied with the performance needless to say.

[@flyingwombat2236]

Thanks for including idle power consumption. Please include idle power in your CPU reviews too. For those of us who have our PC on most the day (or 24/7) it can make a big difference.

[@losergamer04]

I'd like to see a mid-range CPU test, since that's what will likely be paired with this GPU.

[@ikategame]

What do you think this is, amateur hour? You think tech reviewers are sitting there waiting for your profound wisdom to steer them in the right direction? No one’s holding their breath for your elementary-level ideas, Einstein. If you had even half a clue, you’d know that mid-range CPU and GPU pairings have been tested to death, but no-why bother using that thing between your ears when you can just barf out the most obvious statement imaginable?

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[@kalibanable]

Even gaming became so damn complicated. Never had a high end gaming rig. I started putting together all parts for my first one when RTX 50 was presented at CES. I'm pretty much resigning right now as everything is so frustrating (here in Europe). CPUs are scarce and over MSRP, Nvidia doing a paper launches becuase of lacking competition for last three generations. Intel now is releasing GPUs that have same performance as my current 3060TI while putting out sh*tty CPUs for gaming . AI is doing its part to gaming aswell of cause. Studios just put out games that are badly optimized or depend highly on features only a 2500€ GPU can handle with DLSS / DLAA Framegeneration Pathtracing. I mean wtf is going on?

[@Mis73rRand0m]

I just got a $250 3060 12 gig and feel fine with my purchase, right in the middle of the two ARC cards and I was able to test in my PC, with my intended games before handing over cash. Also met some other automotive enthusiasts in the process, funny how the used market can be great some times.

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[@WUWASOLO]

If you started up your own GPU company. Everything would be flawless for this industry ;)

[@GamersNexus]

No thanks! When everyone is mining gold, sell leather jackets.

[@MrRafting]

​@@GamersNexus would you be open to wearing a leather jacket for the 5090 review

[@itsuadman]

no shit id love to see that

[@Middleseed]

@@MrRaftingGOAT idea.

[@RavenZahadoom]

@@MrRafting No please no! Last thing we need is for that to become a thing, and if you really HAVE to GN use fake leather at least.

[@jotinhafilho5920]

Nah, b570 and Switch 2 on the same day is wild

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[@strada624]

Omg the fact that it's been 4 days since the lastest upload must mean that Steve and the GN team are cooking up one hell of a LTT response 🔥 I'll have the popcorn ready once that next video is released 🍿

[@abdullah-_-.]

what response might that be? They have nothing to say, itll be an apology not a response, they misrepresented the billet labs situation, they misquoted linus, they didnt ask for linus' side of the story, etc,etc, etc. It is just a drama channel masquaraded as a "tech journalist/reviewer" channel.

[@resee9856]

​@abdullah-_-.Get Linus' balls out of your mouth while you're speaking, we can't hear you lil bro

[@Pippan]

The sheer amount of data points in this video is ludicrous. Thanks Steve.

[@asineth832]

Seeing idle power in the review is super helpful, love to see it.

[@minimax1392]

Anyone coming from LTT didn’t even listen to what Linus said at the end of his msg at the start of WanShow. He doesn’t want you all talking crap, if you’re going to hold someone accountable wait until they respond at least.

[@JackHugeman]

Linus absolutely wants them talking crap. "Don't go brigade spam the comments *wink* *wink*" is influencer code for doing exactly this.

[@tohtorrent]

I am not his employee to follow his instructions for what to do on youtube, lol.

[@minimax1392]

@@tohtorrent yeah, but you can also have the decency to at least respect his wishes.

[@cyberletho]

Go intel. We need the competition. Now get that B780 worhing.

[@kravenfoxbodies2479]

You will get competition on all of the new AMD/ Nividia cards once they make it over to Ebay for repricing.

[@lActivel]

8:06 "There's no substantial change to the B580's performance across these three CPU's with this test configuration" So.. we're just going to ignore the 1% lows?

[@Kiwirnango]

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

[@KPalmTheWise]

Man didn't wait until 8:40 It was worded oddly, for sure, but it was not ignored

[@lActivel]

@@KPalmTheWise Maybe he should've led with that instead of saying "nothing to see here"

[@oeljay]

Maybe you should wait for the whole explanation for each game to be finished instead of jumping on the apparent mistake. :P

[@fafdus]

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[@ohayMark]

As always good job GN , These tests are getting complicated. I'm still fine with my 5600 6650xt, maybe when I get a 1440p monitor I'll consider upgrading. Thanks Steve.

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[@bugfeatures]

Again, thousand thanks for the idle consumption info. I also do text based work and life off-grid. In this case a low idle draw is damn important

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[@iftifn]

I have overwhelming feeling that it's not how good B580/B570 are. But how extremely bad AMD 7000 and NGreedia 4000 are.

[@MichaelOfRohan]

They both make really good cards. Saying the company sucks doesnt mean their products suck. Amazon is one of the worst companies to work for in the us and you keep buying everything from them.

[@Takyodor2]

"Good" and "bad" are a function of both performance and price (perhaps energy consumption/heat depending on preferences), if performance is comparable and the price is lower, it's a good product.

[@-in-the-meantime...]

​​@@MichaelOfRohanjust because there isn't enough competition to solidify nvidia/amd price to performace ratio sucks, doesn't mean it doesn't suck.

[@EndgameThor16]

Nvidia and amd cards are good gpus but with an awful price/performance ratio (mostly nvidia)

[@lucror314]

Definitely should offer Linus an apology, your usually very level headed but it’s clear you’ve got a vendetta here, and the internet will get pissed at you for this one

[@oeljay]

Where's the vendetta in this video? He's reviewing a card 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@christophermullins7163]

This is mostly selling me on the lows you get from 9800x3d. Even on slower hardware.. sheesh what a beast.

[@fafdus]

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[@neuronic85]

I wish people would just ignore the scalpers. This problem is squarely on them and the retailers. If you want it, buy it when you can buy direct. The drivers will be more solid, and you won't be part of the problem.

[@lexzbuddy]

Great review. Total pro, well done.

[@fafdus]

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[@Muellenbach67]

What Linus actually said was can we still be friends

[@peterwalkerden6778]

GN and LTT, the community needs you both, please sort it out.

[@jaybee-f9x]

Tbh though you could get the same information GN produces from many other less problematic creators lol

[@DeadOnToilet]

@@jaybee-f9x Tbh though you could get the same information LTT produces from many other less problematic creators lol

[@kristianstaalby8499]

Rememeber guys, its not enough for Intel to make these cards. We, the consumer, have to buy them if we want Intel to keep this going.

[@masterluckyluke]

The B580 is a pretty impressive card for its price. A shame scalpers already try to scam people. Please don't buy cards from scalpers! Every buyer is part of the problem.

[@EmanuelHoogeveen]

For this particular discussion (driver overhead) it might make sense to deliberately run games at lower settings that get an acceptable frame rate (e.g. 60fps+). The lower the frame rate, the less the CPU has to do - but people aren't going to play at frame rates that are too low. Obviously setting performance targets like that doesn't make sense for a normal review, but in terms of buying advice for people with older/cheaper CPUs it might be helpful.

[@fafdus]

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[@ClassicRoc87]

as a long-time subscriber and fan of gamers Nexus, I really hope this rage bait stops even I'm getting sick of it. you need to get a hold of journalistic integrity against Steve. Linus is not always perfect. sometimes his content kind of sucks but you know what sucks lately on your side? The stupid rage bait please stop.

[@shiro3146]

wich timestamp is rage bait part? im too lazy to watch the whole information but wondering all this about

[@dvlmc]

@@shiro3146 nothing in this video is ragebait, he's coming from a livestream talking about youtuber drama. The video is fine

[@hipperooni383]

This has nothing to do with this video

[@JackHugeman]

​@shiro3146 Linus Tech Tips is mad that Steve called him out so he sent his reviews to brigade the comments sections of unrelated videos. This videos doesn't mention LTT at all, it's just a gpu review but they're not smart enough to know that

[@dycedargselderbrother5353]

It's kind ironic that a bunch of people are coming to an irrelevant video posting drama claiming they don't want drama coming from a drama podcast.

[@Scarlet_Soul]

Ah! A marginally impressed Steve face!

[@fafdus]

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[@dzalejandro]

Linus is no angel and so are u, why we cant watch whoever we want and be happy?