INTENSE LOADED LUX VS RUM NITTY DEBATE WITH MYSONNE, CHARLIE CLIPS, DNA, UNCLE MARVIN AND BEASLEY

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@TheyCallMe_TC
@TheyCallMe_TC Ай бұрын
YOU MY SON (MYSONNE) I DON'T WANNA HEAR NONE OF THAT EXTRA LIP- B MAGIC
@gregd550
@gregd550 Ай бұрын
Nahh when magic said that 😂😂😂😂🔥🔥🔥🔥
@lomar0058
@lomar0058 Ай бұрын
Magic really was different in his prime man
@TheyCallMe_TC
@TheyCallMe_TC Ай бұрын
@@lomar0058 he still in my top 5
@DTCAllOver
@DTCAllOver Ай бұрын
@@gregd550when he battled Chilla
@gregd550
@gregd550 Ай бұрын
@@DTCAllOver ok I gotta go back and watch that
@mrjsweet85
@mrjsweet85 Ай бұрын
Dna you got COOKED in front of Lux ...... he's NOT battling you 😂😂😂
@MDAce150
@MDAce150 Ай бұрын
Lux told DNA “You better worry about what’s in front of you” as DNA was getting 30’ed live… Lux already won 😂
@blingcl
@blingcl Ай бұрын
Lux got cook how many times lux is ass be y’all make excuses for him
@MDAce150
@MDAce150 Ай бұрын
@@blingcl Hey tuck that in, your hate is showing…
@NoName-cz3wn
@NoName-cz3wn 26 күн бұрын
Nitty has 1 great attribute that crowds love. Just like every other Lux battle, here's how its gonna go: Live and the next day: NITTY 30 BODIED LUX! IT WAS CRAZY! 1 year later: damn, I can't believe I thought Nitty won that
@victoralexander5152
@victoralexander5152 Ай бұрын
DNA begging for the Lux battle was nasty.
@JamaalMills
@JamaalMills Ай бұрын
You do realize dna had the sponsor that bought lux back so no dna no lux come back at sm2 the most important moment of lux career
@ghostsballz
@ghostsballz Ай бұрын
​@@JamaalMillsyou do realize DNA doing that and STILL not getting a lux battle is even nastier
@JamaalMills
@JamaalMills Ай бұрын
@@ghostsballz yeah on lux DNA has done wayyy more for the culture than lux
@ghostsballz
@ghostsballz Ай бұрын
@@JamaalMills he should stop asking for the lux battle then who gives AF, if everyone stopped chasing a lux battle like he's the final boss he wouldn't be considered that anymore
@JamaalMills
@JamaalMills Ай бұрын
@@ghostsballz dna is retired no one cares if lux ever battles again
@vicreese2531
@vicreese2531 Ай бұрын
Clips sayin that after standing in front of Nitty and getting smoked is crazy
@tayburke9804
@tayburke9804 Ай бұрын
Yea only dummies think clips lost to nitty
@geedorah7860
@geedorah7860 Ай бұрын
@@tayburke9804did clips even come w 3 rounds that battle lol clips fans are hilarious
@tayburke9804
@tayburke9804 Ай бұрын
@@geedorah7860 which makes it worst he beating mfs with freestyles
@ducekong7878
@ducekong7878 Ай бұрын
Rum 30ed Charlie dna roc chef tsu
@geedorah7860
@geedorah7860 Ай бұрын
@@tayburke9804 clips fans treat clips battles like stand up comedy shows as long as clips comes up there and freestyles about some random shit and makes them laugh then they got their moneys worth LOL
@myquietreviewsfeaturingc.t9354
@myquietreviewsfeaturingc.t9354 Ай бұрын
Don't give Clips any excuses for not living up to his potential 🤦🏿🤷🏿
@darealdamienprince7990
@darealdamienprince7990 Ай бұрын
He loved it 😂😂😂 how long you want MFS to be GREAT…. Even Lux ain’t been living up to his potential, they’re old bruh it’s time for the new era
@myquietreviewsfeaturingc.t9354
@myquietreviewsfeaturingc.t9354 Ай бұрын
@darealdamienprince7990 You don't have to be great just write some bar's & remember them is all I'm asking or at least make a effort & try
@tayburke9804
@tayburke9804 Ай бұрын
Clips passed his potential you're just a hater
@myquietreviewsfeaturingc.t9354
@myquietreviewsfeaturingc.t9354 Ай бұрын
@@tayburke9804 A hater??? 😂😂😂
@jbofficial5190
@jbofficial5190 Ай бұрын
Lux 2-1.. but I won’t sleep on Rum , you never really know they both God tier in my opinion 💯
@JustPierreMusic
@JustPierreMusic Ай бұрын
👽
@quincyjackson1950
@quincyjackson1950 4 күн бұрын
Rum is top tier he not reach God tier yet
@dustindoty9337
@dustindoty9337 Ай бұрын
Fucking Beasley couldnt just eat his food "had to be in the picture like Mona Lisa" -Lux
@ColeOnTheStix
@ColeOnTheStix Ай бұрын
Loaded Lux Rum vs Nitty?? Gotta proof read them titles bruh😂😂
@Cash2620
@Cash2620 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@ightbroyougotit
@ightbroyougotit Ай бұрын
just noticed that lmao
@ightbroyougotit
@ightbroyougotit Ай бұрын
gotta love this shit
@ColeOnTheStix
@ColeOnTheStix Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@Norma1250
@Norma1250 20 күн бұрын
They saw this and changed it 😂😂😂
@ghostsballz
@ghostsballz Ай бұрын
Clips put more effort into this conversation than his last 27 battles
@mynobnez
@mynobnez Ай бұрын
combined
@tayburke9804
@tayburke9804 Ай бұрын
So what?
@bt2084
@bt2084 Ай бұрын
@TheBrownlion92
@TheBrownlion92 Ай бұрын
Cause those conversations matter more than those last few battles
@tocagamer4775
@tocagamer4775 Ай бұрын
😂
@Magnif1
@Magnif1 Ай бұрын
June 8th Lux Vs Rum...that's all I heard😂😂😂
@plusnew8306
@plusnew8306 Ай бұрын
Official?
@Magnif1
@Magnif1 Ай бұрын
​@@plusnew8306Beasley said June 8th was in the URLtv app like twice when they mentioning the battle
@yesimhere8410
@yesimhere8410 Ай бұрын
@@plusnew8306Beas said it. 6:42
@Nestle245
@Nestle245 Ай бұрын
About dam time.
@NOCALGooN916
@NOCALGooN916 Ай бұрын
All you needed to hear 😂
@beenizz5102
@beenizz5102 Ай бұрын
Nitty “Ill in the lobby I grab the nose running I’m coming down with something” Grey hoodie lux couple decades ago “we got ish to clear the mall in yo lobby letting that thing sing I be Aaron halls. 1000 punches way I be coming up with ish youd swear I’m coming down with somethin” Let’s see what the lux inspired nitty will do with his inspiration on June 8th
@steveg9166
@steveg9166 16 күн бұрын
lux killed everybody that was infront of him. penmanship wise he's an unbeatable boss
@Just_JayR
@Just_JayR Ай бұрын
DNA still fishing lol when is he gonna realize NOBODY wants to see Lux battle him!
@JamaalMills
@JamaalMills Ай бұрын
Be clear if it wasn’t for dna lux wouldn’t have been on sm2 he bought the sponsor also lux knows 1 rebuttal destroys months of his writing he can’t beat DNA
@darealdamienprince7990
@darealdamienprince7990 Ай бұрын
@@JamaalMillsI was with you but CANT beat DNA is crazy, he can definitely beat DNA lol you not beating Lux with just one rebuttal…. Even if DNA got him on SM2 it was still up to Lux to get the job done… we not doing that…. But I would definitely watch the battle
@yannikid
@yannikid Ай бұрын
​@@JamaalMillsare u off crack yo lux in his vintage mode would 3-0 dna dna got 30 to Jerry west and west is 🗑️ I can never take Dna seriously after that battle i don't even care to see dna battle anymore J's it's my perspective besides my opinion Dna is legend in Battle rap but he can't keep up with loaded Lux respectfully
@JamaalMills
@JamaalMills Ай бұрын
@@yannikid gotti 30ed em easily nobody want to hear lux spit that fake lyricism nitty will have the best bars schemes and metaphors
@x100LB
@x100LB Ай бұрын
@@yannikidwhen is the last time he’s been in vintage lux mode?
@evktxbi
@evktxbi Ай бұрын
"that lost to both of them" lmaoo
@user-tw5uc1dg6g
@user-tw5uc1dg6g Ай бұрын
Rum vs Lux will be a classic
@tristanmanuel7787
@tristanmanuel7787 4 күн бұрын
A ward and loso is better loso smoked geechi gotti 💪🏿
@Dub4Lyfe
@Dub4Lyfe Ай бұрын
Now that was a good debate💯
@Jr-42011
@Jr-42011 Ай бұрын
As dna said this can be one of the best battles of all time. It has that potential. Nitty dont be having this time to write. I got nitty but i want a classic for the culture and some of the best material from both
@Jr-42011
@Jr-42011 Ай бұрын
Nitty 2-1 I won't bet against nitty in a meaningful battle too he can lose but with prep time and a meaningful battle I won't bet against nitty.
@JustPierreMusic
@JustPierreMusic Ай бұрын
👽
@winningishalfthebattle154
@winningishalfthebattle154 Ай бұрын
Dna that is a beautiful shirt. Salute Sir
@Jr-42011
@Jr-42011 Ай бұрын
Saturday June 8th yep we waiting.
@youngjayo6881
@youngjayo6881 Ай бұрын
I'm a huge Lux fan but he hasn't done anything in years to show that he's gonna beat the most battle tested person in a decade. Rum Nitty has comfortably sat in the Top 3 spot for a long time now...
@plusnew8306
@plusnew8306 Ай бұрын
You def not a huge Lux fan after sayinh that
@macmilly6043
@macmilly6043 Ай бұрын
MF the big 3 lol
@youngjayo6881
@youngjayo6881 Ай бұрын
@@plusnew8306 shutup
@asumahyeboah5389
@asumahyeboah5389 Ай бұрын
U wanted a bias take😂😂
@youngjayo6881
@youngjayo6881 Ай бұрын
@@asumahyeboah5389 What are you talking about?
@michael43567
@michael43567 4 күн бұрын
Lux got 30'd by Geechi & Arsonal lol. Idk why they talking like he's on a different level
@mariobelk9406
@mariobelk9406 Ай бұрын
Why was Clips including himself in that? Like he aint been BS.... Take the AUX from him please lol
@ONLYFEZ
@ONLYFEZ Күн бұрын
Good battle already
@ZeekeFraley-zu8dm
@ZeekeFraley-zu8dm Ай бұрын
They having the time of they life 😂
@sweetbuttergeminine4756
@sweetbuttergeminine4756 Ай бұрын
as they should 💯
@irwinbilly6936
@irwinbilly6936 Ай бұрын
Clips lost to Nitty and ducked the rematch. Lux lost alot o battles. Choked in a few, DNA been rooting for Nitty to lose since he got cooked. Rum killed DNA.
@yannikid
@yannikid Ай бұрын
All rum has is punchlines lux is more all around and has better wordplay then rum nitty if lux is in his vintage mode he will 30 rum nitty
@delejayn
@delejayn Ай бұрын
@@yannikidLux lost to geechi lol😂
@tayburke9804
@tayburke9804 Ай бұрын
Clips beat nitty don't get up here talking dumb shit
@yannikid
@yannikid Ай бұрын
@@delejayn that dont mean he cant beat rum nitty tho
@ducekong7878
@ducekong7878 Ай бұрын
Rum 30ed dna Charlie roc
@dms718
@dms718 Ай бұрын
I got Rum and Lux is on my "Mount Rushmore" of battle rap.
@marcamalia4136
@marcamalia4136 Ай бұрын
Nitty More of a direct puncher. Lux walks you down the scheme and paints a picture. Some are more for direct punches other wonna hear the Breakdown 🤷🏻‍♂️ I’m here for the breakdown.
@amoremusic14
@amoremusic14 Ай бұрын
Lux going have to get this schemes and punches faster against nitty
@yannikid
@yannikid Ай бұрын
Marca you are talking facts still
@ReggieTuilagi
@ReggieTuilagi Ай бұрын
​@@amoremusic14Stop creating narratives.Y'all did the same thing when Mook battled Tay Roc smh
@amoremusic14
@amoremusic14 Ай бұрын
@@ReggieTuilagi that’s not creating narrative I’m making a point that lux take long to get to his punches
@ShinobiDRC
@ShinobiDRC Ай бұрын
@@amoremusic14 no tf he dont Lux loses the battle the moment he has to compromise his style for his opponent which is why this battle needs the small room cuz Both can execute their styles to its full extent without dumbing it down or doing the most to change their styles
@user-wv2mp4nz8i
@user-wv2mp4nz8i Ай бұрын
Lux is Nitty's personal end game, the man said he structured his style from Lux. Nitty about to go super crazy off respect alone. Both of them about to god mode
@rippleman3819
@rippleman3819 Ай бұрын
Clips talks so much he don't allow other people to talk long enough 😭🤣💯
@ronaldharris7678
@ronaldharris7678 Ай бұрын
Enjoying life 😎🔥
@mopholosinu_scare4539
@mopholosinu_scare4539 Ай бұрын
Happy to see DNA happy
@YakThaWiseman72
@YakThaWiseman72 3 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂"Somebody who lost to both of them" 😂😂😂
@MA-vc5ls
@MA-vc5ls Ай бұрын
Agree 💯💯
@angstone170
@angstone170 Ай бұрын
He look like he rocking a mouth guard 😂😂😂😂
@aggin10
@aggin10 Ай бұрын
5 black dudes...one white girl...I seen this movie before 💀
@darkinvadeher
@darkinvadeher Ай бұрын
That’s DNA wife
@Findgawd
@Findgawd 10 күн бұрын
Turned the camera on DNA 😂😂
@leetheboss8538
@leetheboss8538 Ай бұрын
RUM nitty 30 👿😈👿
@ReggieTuilagi
@ReggieTuilagi Ай бұрын
Plz stop smoking crack Uce😂
@MRKJ408
@MRKJ408 Ай бұрын
1,000,000 times is a shit load of times to watch someone 😂
@thagamersdivision72
@thagamersdivision72 13 күн бұрын
whos that with hooters is what i wanna know
@TheRealCStarzENGoudaman
@TheRealCStarzENGoudaman Ай бұрын
I think nitty may win in the building. Lux might win on playback . And I’m Team Lux
@cperkins5050
@cperkins5050 Ай бұрын
Most likely, Nitty wins in the building. The building is more receptive to easy to understand punchlines.
@travisj8110
@travisj8110 Ай бұрын
@@cperkins5050but Nitty’s punches get better on camera as well that’s what really makes him hard to beat his material is crazy in the building and gets even better on the replay because you can say how layered it is
@ProjectChrisStaten
@ProjectChrisStaten Ай бұрын
Agreed
@georgedylan7901
@georgedylan7901 19 күн бұрын
Those gun bars get boring AF
@Blazinangel416
@Blazinangel416 Ай бұрын
Lux has to come in like he wants to kill nitty. Lately lux will try to get you outta here in the first 2 rounds and take his foot off the gas in the 3rd and give you a chance to win that one.
@steven_green
@steven_green Ай бұрын
Gon be a debatable
@civoreb
@civoreb 18 күн бұрын
Anyone thinking Nitty will lose is delusional or on crack 😂
@JamaalMills
@JamaalMills Ай бұрын
Nitty gonna 30 that man bad
@AkronKid330
@AkronKid330 Ай бұрын
Yup
@IN91CoWETRUST
@IN91CoWETRUST Ай бұрын
Real bad unless Lux come with antics
@elijahexpecttheunexpected2600
@elijahexpecttheunexpected2600 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂‼️
@cperkins5050
@cperkins5050 Ай бұрын
Nitty can’t rap with Lux. However, Nitty can win in a basic URL format.
@spencewhite9215
@spencewhite9215 Ай бұрын
i pray he dont switch his style up and just bar him to death
@jeditayy6365
@jeditayy6365 Ай бұрын
Humans telling an alien what it should do🤦‍♀🤦‍♀🤦‍♀
@RodZilla11
@RodZilla11 28 күн бұрын
I SMELL CAP, MYSONNE!! LOLOLOLOLOLOL LUX IS WASHED!! GEECHI 30'D LUX!! Whatchu think NITTY bout to do to LUX? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
@brandonfalls2338
@brandonfalls2338 Ай бұрын
Remember hollow looks up to lux, but hollow said nitty got the best pen in battle rap
@VonifiedGames
@VonifiedGames Ай бұрын
Nitty the 👽
@craig_amun_ra
@craig_amun_ra Ай бұрын
Clips fake laugh be hilarious
@Javarrol
@Javarrol Ай бұрын
Damn why he bring up CLIPS like that 😂
@bigshotspurlock1
@bigshotspurlock1 Ай бұрын
It's going down
@itztheheart83
@itztheheart83 Ай бұрын
punchlines vs metaphors metaphors usually win- its gonna come down to the presentation tho! 100
@yungdre90
@yungdre90 3 күн бұрын
Rum 2-1 Rum have proven himself time and time again, most consistent with material that still makes you think how he came up with that. Most Respected among his pairs most Ducked battle rapper.
@darshawn1
@darshawn1 Ай бұрын
I thought dude in the blue shirt and blue hat was Rum Nitty from the Future
@h-dawg6462
@h-dawg6462 2 күн бұрын
😆
@Findgawd
@Findgawd 10 күн бұрын
Mysonne “yeah clips sucks” Clips “yeah I do suck”
@NahlegeStreet
@NahlegeStreet Ай бұрын
Is that Marvin??
@calebbaldwin4374
@calebbaldwin4374 Ай бұрын
Dna ain’t nobody worried bout u nobody cares to see u gang respectfully 😂😂😂
@SeanBTHEBEST
@SeanBTHEBEST Ай бұрын
What’s Marvin doing there lol
@dustinposey8476
@dustinposey8476 Ай бұрын
Sleep on the Alien if yall want too and get beamed up like Scotty...
@sonrayne8335
@sonrayne8335 Ай бұрын
So I guess PUNCH was already taken?
@Debonair.Fella85
@Debonair.Fella85 Ай бұрын
DNA got the Stevie Wonder mustache...
@Mindag13
@Mindag13 Ай бұрын
Geechi smoked Lux. Rum will too. And what a dumb ass example by Clips. Because he saw Lux kill with no cameras and didn’t see Nitty do it, that’s why he trusts him?
@thagamersdivision72
@thagamersdivision72 13 күн бұрын
why these damn battle rappers always have a damn basketball reference
@tristanmanuel7787
@tristanmanuel7787 4 күн бұрын
It depends what type of crowd it is if it's young rum nitty wins if it's old lux wins
@user-wy3kt1ye1p
@user-wy3kt1ye1p Ай бұрын
Can someone tell me when was the last time Lux won a battle?
@trilloclock3449
@trilloclock3449 Ай бұрын
Nitty washing Lux easily. And it ain’t even gonna be close. Y’all just say anything. 🇬🇭
@brem3985
@brem3985 Ай бұрын
It takes Lux 40 seconds to get a punchline… vs Rum who’s gonna punch back to back. Rum 3-0
@lostsoulztv6896
@lostsoulztv6896 4 күн бұрын
💯🐐🐐🐐
@johnisrael5022
@johnisrael5022 Ай бұрын
Bease was about to say Rum 😂
@ContactBrand
@ContactBrand Ай бұрын
Thats DNA girl?
@moneyryzo7489
@moneyryzo7489 Ай бұрын
YOU BETTER MEAN NOT BE GOOD WHEN YOU SAID YOU KNOW WHAT CLIPS GONE DO
@airmaxwell
@airmaxwell Ай бұрын
RUM NITTY 2-1
@kennedyliberty1304
@kennedyliberty1304 Ай бұрын
In the building probably. Never in cam, never.
@lesedisibeko7265
@lesedisibeko7265 Ай бұрын
@@kennedyliberty1304 Because biased kids like yourself will pretend whatever Lux said was better even though it wont be. To everybody else, Nitty on cam too
@kennedyliberty1304
@kennedyliberty1304 Ай бұрын
@@lesedisibeko7265 Been grown for a while young man. What's your fav Rum Nitty bar? I'll wait
@lesedisibeko7265
@lesedisibeko7265 Ай бұрын
@@kennedyliberty1304 too many to mention, let's start with "Fucking with the kid Is suicide/ever seen a tech 9 before cort?" To Cortez. Or "Beat me to death/died first" or "lead to the scent'a/center drugz, like the K9 unit" to drugz. layered and intelligent, unlike the overrated drawn out babbling from loaded
@onpointsg35
@onpointsg35 Ай бұрын
​@@kennedyliberty1304mine is I heard ill in the lobby I'm grabbing the nose running im coming down with something
@curtisharris8648
@curtisharris8648 Ай бұрын
Do He Got top Teeth Or not??
@malojones78
@malojones78 18 күн бұрын
I got Rum with the 3pc Special. This is a bias group of guys
@DanMontanaEnt
@DanMontanaEnt 14 күн бұрын
Nitty vs lux , easy vs clips, roc vs ward … finally battle rap is coming back
@aboriginaldayz5564
@aboriginaldayz5564 Ай бұрын
Nitty 2-1
@JustinCredible2452
@JustinCredible2452 Ай бұрын
Rum killed Clips
@welive7989
@welive7989 6 күн бұрын
Lux 21 rum bars be FIRE AF but lux bars Be connected and layerd no cap.
@MasterChefToastTV
@MasterChefToastTV Ай бұрын
🔥🔥🔥🤓🤓🤓
@tonytone7487
@tonytone7487 Ай бұрын
Damn rum gon be trippin 🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️
@meechloc6484
@meechloc6484 Ай бұрын
Rum vs Nitty go crazy Unc 😂😂😂😂😂
@menphmann6621
@menphmann6621 Ай бұрын
I thought Marvin was loaded lux for a sec😂😂😂
@raymondbennettjr.8845
@raymondbennettjr.8845 4 күн бұрын
Beasley should’ve left his and rum convo out of the interview my opinion peace and blessings king
@justinmartin3208
@justinmartin3208 Ай бұрын
Bearded Rum finna 30 Lux🤣
@victorycomeswithpatience8975
@victorycomeswithpatience8975 Ай бұрын
🗣️🎤🔥👽🔥👽🔥👽🔥 Gentleman's
@jblack1172
@jblack1172 18 күн бұрын
When has lux hit 20 shots in the row clips gtfoh probably once vs calicoe since then he been ass rum 2-1
@risej4164
@risej4164 20 сағат бұрын
The hype is crazy for rum right now! Even though he got killed by JC. And they haven't gave JC his shot...smh! Rum is fire but if many didn't think JC was ready for LUX then how is RUM gonna compare? Gentlemen 30 LUX
@bar4bar23
@bar4bar23 Ай бұрын
You can’t master the game with out leaving levels 🤔
@BadMoney29
@BadMoney29 Ай бұрын
DNA was lit 😂😂
@mariobelk9406
@mariobelk9406 Ай бұрын
Nobody gone tell DNA to wipe his chin? Lol
@Thoumiggedy56
@Thoumiggedy56 Ай бұрын
I thought dna had a fake eye 😂
@travistucker6101
@travistucker6101 Ай бұрын
What happen wit lux and geechi
@cperkins5050
@cperkins5050 Ай бұрын
They could have that same battle tomorrow in Iowa with the same exact material, and Lux wins convincingly.
@ZiiDKiiDzTM
@ZiiDKiiDzTM Ай бұрын
Lux got smoked geechi made him look bad that's one lost that y'all lux fans gotta hold 😂 ​@@cperkins5050
@ContactBrand
@ContactBrand Ай бұрын
Oh shit anybody else recognize Hip Hop gamer next to DNA or just me?
@darkinvadeher
@darkinvadeher Ай бұрын
Yeah I see him
@kyleaustin7766
@kyleaustin7766 Ай бұрын
Rum might catch a body
@halfmanamazing549
@halfmanamazing549 Ай бұрын
Rum nitty all day
@moeskrilla4207
@moeskrilla4207 Ай бұрын
Marvin down with the culture is too Dope
@stereo-type1510
@stereo-type1510 Ай бұрын
So basically their arguement is because they knew Lux longer and seen him battle in the park when they were younger Lux is gonna win....Ok 🤷
@mondekomsana7170
@mondekomsana7170 17 күн бұрын
Charlie Clips done lost too many battles for me to believe anything he says. With that said. Lux a G.O.A.T. His bars age better than anybody's
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