Inter City Firm Get 'VIOLENT' Welcome From Stoke Lads

[@enquirer2.0]

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[@alanbstard3642]

Bootham crescent was York city , Stoke had a boothen end.

[@ChestRockwell-q1t]

Jasper wasn't just a top lad at football he was a proper Fagan father type figure to the lads of all ages. Common knowledge up stoke that when jasper moved to the coast anyone with hard time issues addiction on the run or just needed a fresh start they were sent up to stay with him no questions asked

[@antonyclement8871]

Proper dude salute Jasper

[@mjh5437]

Sounds like he`s a secret groomer.

[@Therealstokie]

Legend mate jasper proper man who gives much back

[@Spiderdan-60]

Being Millwall fan from South London, mate im a lot older now but seeing this really brought back them yester year memories💯 quality video man 👊💥

[@enquirer2.0]

Thankyou my friend

[@derekrushton1705]

West Ham always came into The Boothen but only in small numbers. One game they moved down towards the Boothen Paddock (where Stokes main firm were). The old bill made the mistake of taking them into the paddock instead of walking them round the pitch. They got absolutely battered. I know, I was there. They got trapped inside & it took old bill a while to rescue them then escort them to the Stoke End. After the game Stoke lads went up Butler Street to Lonsdale Street then hid behind graves in St Peters Churchyard. As the ICF passed they got done again. Mind you a few years later Stoke got a kicking on Kingsway car-park on the way to Stoke Railway Station. Stoke followed West Ham then ambushed them on the car-park but another larger group of Hammers ambushed Stoke. Stokies refused to run, so I've been told 😉 and got a good pasting. The Good Old Days eh? I remember hiding in a bus depot at Upton Park too just behind the away section. Like a scene from 'On the buses'...Orr rite Blakey 😂

[@SE16Proud]

100% Fake m8 grow up n stop reading books..stick to comics...😡

[@petermcdonugh8426]

Always a good day in the seventies..Burnley v Stoke. Blackpool v Stoke same era . Carnage.

[@seanmick6134]

It’s why no one can ever claim to be the best fighters because everyone gets done at some point. You’ll always have your more serious hooligans but everyone wins & loses in that game.

[@andrewdinatale8207]

I ate you butler!

[@paulkillick527]

@@seanmick6134 everyone bleeds mate 👍

[@TherealsweetTee72]

Football violence and hooliganism is part of the grass roots in the landscape the new age crime gardners cultivated...its not gangsta storys of the usual kind that only a few % strolled but football was a working man's crack at violence AND crime (of sorts) for the many who in the most were buckling down making a honest living of 9-5 but wanted to keep that side of there character and passion of good honest gentleman violence of which is a thing of the past and will never be got back due to times and technology. The camaraderie and love of your enemy was the best drug ever! Good drop Loved it Ben! Not what some people would call crime but is what a lot of people got there weekly sin from! Cheers from a fellow enthusiastic and it was a good little piece! It's normally about celebrity fans,some people did get into real crime off the back of it,drug dealing,robbing,organised theft,not gangsta stuff but I've never met a gangsta in my life!

[@pauljamison4450]

love it ' as a palace fan remember the grave yard fight with stoke fans in early 80's ' great day out did get a bit mental ' buts thats what it was all about ' good mem's from this video.

[@kevengriffin1429]

Palarse 😂 won't come to cafc

[@oldnook]

@@pauljamison4450 hi mate it was great wasn't it remember palace being up here and brawling with them. One palace lad came into the boothen and stood right next to me and my mates. We used to always stand under where the players family this guy came in brazenly with his jacket open his palace on show and a mate said to him what you doing in here and he said I've been thrown out so I just come back in here,Well I don't think he expected stoke to have lads all over the place and where we stood there was always big mob who gathered just thugs watching the game but were always there in the event of anyone coming and trying to storm the boothen, and this guy thinking probably all stokes lads were at the back or middle right and he was safe to just walk in or stand there, as soon as he said I've been thrown out for coming here I made up mine just chinned him just one punch his eyes glazed over and he dropped to the floor he never got laid in to,It was just sharp shock punch the lad who did it did have a cracking punch, not long aftervthe final whistle went and we just walked out I didn't know what happened to him but he wouldn't have got smashed up, the majority of Stoke main lads had that rule of conduct and stuck to it, not like some teams who would gather round you and kick the crap out of you. Your place is a nightmare to get to It took us ages however we got there and didn't expect to see as many lads as we did, you had a great welcoming party,It was fun but those were the days long live like golden memories

[@Therealstokie]

Good days mate we always hid behind the graves mental times

[@oldnook]

@@Therealstokie glad you enjoyed it mate I did 👍, happy days they were. Good we can look back and have the tales "true" to tell. You had to be there to believe it. I got make mates with one of Man City's top lads of the time and we were having a good laugh about times we've had at the Vic Maine Road and he told me he got ambushed twice 😂, first time was unexpected but the second time he said they were walking back to the station and he said to a mate we wont go that way we got ambushed last season his mate said won't happen again o.b. would have sussed it, so they made their way and he said to his mate look ive just seen heads popping up and down his mate said no your imagining it... Well they got done again.. he told me he had to have counselling for ages after for PTSD. 😂 True story Dean. Take care pal

[@Therealstokie]

@@oldnook very true mate, the old days were best fighting in the alleys and on the terraces. No weapons just real men, I’ve met many lads who became friends even though we would do battle twice a season. Take care buddy all the best

[@enquirer2.0]

Just a correction from Cass Pennants book its victoria ground not Bootham Cresent 😅

[@herbert9241]

Bootham was Hull's ground, wasn't it - the old one?

[@herbert9241]

Boothferry was Hull. Bootham was York. Same county. It's all 'booth' this / 'booth' that up there.

[@chrisloweth3395]

@@herbert9241 boothen end was stoke mate

[@herbert9241]

@@chrisloweth3395 - Aha! There's the source of Cass' confusion. Thanks mate.

[@davidmay2073]

Cass Pennant talked alot of 💩

[@bulldog-lincspirits.4648]

Another great listen, love your channel, Ben. All the best.👊🥊👍

[@Jammo1978]

A Good book to read about football hooligans and Crime both in equal measure is Grafters by Colin Blaney (RIP) he was part of the ICJ the Notorious Man Utd Firm who followed Utd all over Europe in the 70s 80s and 90s Robbin high end jewellery shops in Switzerland and Dipping people, Colin also was on the real football factories Britain's toughest pubs, secrets of the shoplifters and pickpockets, he was a friend and 1 of the most intelligent and interesting people I've met and had a few more books too his name before he passed away aswell

[@pablojablo6371]

A few years behind Liverpool though.

[@Jammo1978]

@pablojablo6371 he admits in the book that it was the mickey mousers who 1st put him onto the graft abroad, no secret that the scousers were way ahead of the game when it comes to graftin, my Dad was a scouser but a straight member armed forces and all that but his younger brothers used to follow Liverpool away all over in the 70s and 80s and theyd come back with kashmir and mohair jumpers in some crazy colours 🤣🤣🤣😁

[@essexnto]

​@Jammo1978 I know this will come across as disrespectful but I've got to ask, isn't it true that Blaney didn't even have the money for his own funeral and that a whip was needed to raise the dough for it?

[@Jammo1978]

@essexnto you know what mate I couldn't answer that question but what I can say is that he was working as an expert advisor on location for a few Hooligan films and I'd seen him working for Salford radio and he'd got a few plan's in the pipeline but you know how the lifestyle is 1min your flush and the next you ain't but another thing I can say is that there wouldn't be short of a few people willing to front the readys for him aswell RIP to the legend 🙏🙏🙏

[@essexnto]

@@Jammo1978 can't say I agree with you about holding bundles one day and being skint the next. From a personal angle I've never been anyone, although I done a bit of this 'n' that back in the day I supposre, yet when I was on the deck I still always had a few grand stashed away in the bank. When I say that I'm talking about when I was even in my 20's, never mind now that I'm in my 50's and relatively comfortable. I didn't know the geezer and as far as I'm aware he never followed England so I wouldn't have even ever come across him without realising back in the 80's, so I'm in no position to cast judgement. My only thoughts are there are those who was proper faces in the 80's and 90's becoming 'celebrity hooligans' that turned a quid and are still holding big money now. But then there's others who ended up dying young without two bob to rub together, Nottingham Forest, Chelsea and Carlisle spring to mind instantly. I'm sounding right moody and disrespectful when I don't mean to be, just proper curious because of stuff I've heard that might or might not be true.

[@Therealstokie]

West Ham are the best firm I have seen at Stoke. Always a good turn out, Stoke have a lot of respect for the icf

[@jamiewilliams685]

I'd say Cardiff, Everton, Birmingham and Boro are best I've seen at Stoke

[@Alybert-e3w]

Best firms I've seen at west ham are Leeds. Everton. Bristol city. Cardiff and brum

[@upsidedownnoise]

Six Towns has a lot to answer for: Kilminster, Discharge, Broken Bones, Clay Records, Stanley Matthews, N40 and oatcakes. Respect.

[@itzowenzxzx3945]

My old man always tells me about how they’d hide behind the gravestones when we drive past

[@gregorydalton-v2k]

West Ham always turned up at Stoke in the 70's , remember one of them ragging the shirt of me back by the brigde near the railway station Also remember a few of them in the boothen in late 71 in the league cup semi final first. leg.

[@oldnook]

Alright peck? How are you keeping not seeing you in a while I share the same stories mate they were good times. btw it's Jon from Longton we used to meet up I'll be with glen Phil mart h, and a lot of the other Longton lads, you always be with dozz another great lad. Last time I saw you we were standing outside the doctors when gail c walked past chicks lady and you said you was related

[@gregorydalton-v2k]

@@oldnook Hi Jon, not to bad thanks mate. Hoping that thing aren't to bad with yourself mate. Yep we had some mad & glad times Jon. Take care & stay safe young Sir . Respectfully Peck.

[@bubz3t136]

Hey, could you give me a top 5 list of hooligan books? I read a few, between '97 and '04, but I've no idea about any newer ones. The first one i ever read was the Man City 'Guvnors' book. Then it was the Cardiff 'Soul Crew' book, the Chelsea 'Hoolifan' book, the Birmingham Zulus book, the Everton 'Scally' book, and a handful of others. I was wondering, has any Millwall fan ever written about what went on at their match against Ferencvaros, about 20 years ago? I heard it was pretty crazy, but there's no footage of the fighting on KZbin. Also, has anyone written about the fighting with the Russians, at the 2016 Euros?

[@alexgrayafc49]

This channel is gold keep it up mate great content 👍

[@enquirer2.0]

Thankyou mate very kind

[@thecodfather4425]

Bill was Mile end not ICF.

[@henryclarke5363]

went 77, we had a great day out, we were aware and ready for graveyard.

[@paulatkins5847]

Living in East London in the late 80s, I saw this musclebound guy swaggering towards me with a logo of ICF written on his white T-shirt and a dangerous glare on his face. I was just a kid so he took little notice of me and I didn't know too much about hooliganism, but I knew there was something wrong with the logo. I turned my head to take another look after he'd passed by, and on the back it read, 'Ice Cream Factors, Chelsea'! 😂

[@enquirer2.0]

😂😂

[@cm-oo1td]

Ice cream firm actually

[@marcellos9208]

Nice story 😴😴😴🤡

[@gc9017]

Story from a true “mivvi”

[@paulatkins5847]

@@gc9017 What's a mivvi mate?

[@NeilTweats-o5v]

Churchyard agro Ello, remember the police been pulled off their horses, Chelsea midweek cup game

[@Yorkshire.outlaw]

Best channel out there by far

[@enquirer2.0]

Thankyou my friend

[@nylesglynn8727]

Bootham Crescent was/is the home of York City. Stoke City's Victoria Ground was on Boothen Road.

[@davidbarclay2335]

Read it great book. Naughty was to boring for me tbh. Tranmere Rovers old boy not as they call themselves now the Stanley Boy's we never had a name. But awaydays is about the older boys never used weapons.

[@TrPortg]

Cardiff right off with Stoke mayhem loads nicked

[@markquickfall8098]

My experiences of Stoke are a proper firm always have been

[@nearlysteviedan1275]

Stoke v West Ham always made a great game of football - especially early to mid 70s. Banks, Hudson, Greenhoff etc v Moore, Hurst, Bonds etc. Proper football. As for the aggro, grown men who still wanted to be in a gang

[@SteveWalton-k4p]

I from Stoke icf good firm stoke always had there boys who where up for a ruck naughty forty one of best firms

[@tony7054]

Knew bill , worked with him and next door neighbour, generous, funny and family man

[@oldnook]

Great story Glad It is told true to life No rubbish just how it was Top marks. I went through the 70s 80s being the stoke lad, we loved West ham coming, we knew they would be fair and be game, we were never let down. As with a few other clubs. I went through the good years and I love reliving the memories because I know I was there and today's youth have got nothing compared to what we had. I have met a lot of Good lads from all over the country I went down to London on a pre-arranged social meet I set it up 40 lads All from different clubs we all met we had a fantastic day turned out one of the herd arsenal I was talking to was describing how he came into the boothen and straight away was met with a punch straight in the face I smiled he said was it you I laughed and said yes we had a great time talking about as did all the other football ones Not one word was said in anger all throughout the day and night. I've been on a few of those and those are just as good, but with me arranging it and it was a major success It made it just a little bit special

[@enquirer2.0]

Great Post thankyou

[@oldnook]

@@enquirer2.0 Thank you my friend only saying if how it was, great channel great work thank you for your entertainment brings back many memories

[@saraprva4172]

Naughty 40 too fast too innocuous Remember that flag in Split 😂?

[@stewartashling]

400 icf at hampden late 80s..scars and big cants.i was 16 and a sweaty

[@martinpye549]

Bill Gardner is and always will be a legend. Jasper , well, he is one as well and one fine lad. He has helped plenty of Lads in Stoke over the years. I was born in Stoke, grew up in Oz, and was back as a young man through 88-92. I was naive to much of it, but remember Birmingham and Grimsby away especially. Got nicked a few times following Stoke about . Got myself into strife a few times too, and was pulled out of mither by Cossack, Jed and a few of the others. I was a hothead, and at 57 now, many say I still am. But I've mellowed. The N40 lads were sound as, still are. Ask Cardiff, Wolves, Man City to name a few. They were good times.

[@enquirer2.0]

Top man Martin

[@Sausage1958]

Kind words about my lot (Stoke) Seems like a different life back then. I'm 65 now, and yes. The graveyard, and the back streets of Stoke were where I did my hunting. As you say. No weapons just hand to hand. The Sea Lion in Stoke was where all the tough older guys hung out (ex boxers, doormen etc) It was run by a tough bugger but he'd let the odd few away boys in. You knew if one had got lippy or lairy as he'd be stretched out unconscious while people drank their beer. The fighting was like a drug back then. I've got arthritis in my effing knuckles and wrists now thanks to that.

[@jules1817]

Larry parks( sea lion)

[@Sausage1958]

That's the guy, and Terry Allen was my uncle.

[@mjh5437]

Silly sausage

[@arbarclayab]

I have the book a while ago brings back memories

[@MrRolandgent]

Bootham crescent wasn’t stokes ground it was Victoria Ground

[@enquirer2.0]

It was a mistake in the book. I'm from Stoke I know what it's called I was reading from the icf boom and put a correction up on the video

[@davesoutdoorpage4721]

Since when did Stoke play at Bootham anything?

[@highlanepaul]

My first encounter with West Ham was about 1970/71 when I accompanied an older relative to the Vic because he liked WH and I needed to stay away from meither. We were minding our own business going over the canal bridge to the station( before the D road was there!!). Behind us were at least 500 of us but in front about 100 WH stopped and formed a line across the road massive blokes half white lads half Black. Was well impressed (I was 15) they organised themselves into a couple of lines, threatening anyone who would run away. Our mob came up got about 15 yards away, took a look at what was in front of them and stopped. We were big in numbers and had plenty of lads who could look after themselves but their organisation spooked us and got them onto their trains. It was only in your era J when we finally got proper organised became a force👍😎⚽️

[@eddiejamison]

Bootham Crescent was Hulls old ground?

[@MickMcgowan-x4u]

Hull was boothferry park

[@eddiejamison]

@@MickMcgowan-x4u Thsts right. Went a few times. Right horrible place that. Always had to be on your toes.

[@MrTerryb1956]

Hi mate have you read The BBC " Blades Business Crew " Its a dam good read aswell

[@danielgoodwin543]

My grandad was a stoke fan so was my dad they always said the only thing worse than losing a fight is running away from one . I guess been game was more important to some people. Especially when ya got nothing but your pride. My grandad got trampled on by the police horse's back in the day guess he had a lot of pride not to budge😂

[@Alybert-e3w]

Mr gardner was never in the ICF mate. Mile end mob then the teddy bunter firm .... the absolute top west ham firm were the canning town snipers ( many who are now ultra wealthy and big players in the london underworld ) the saying used to be fight 1 sniper ypu fight them all

[@user-zi3ee8oj1i]

Stokies aren't Northerners 😂

[@enquirer2.0]

Anyone North of Watford Gap are northern according to the London lads

[@anthonymitchell8893]

not moryhners just Midland hillybillys 😎

[@mickymac6571]

Stoke never played at bootham crescent .⚽😎

[@charleshannam]

York City

[@enquirer2.0]

Yes mate they got that wrong in book Victoria Ground

[@burnleytilidie1882]

He does say in the book only stoke and Burnley used to be only the places they’d get trouble in the 70s.

[@mrdog2019]

Barnsley was another@@burnleytilidie1882

[@simonwolfendale1988]

What, they never played York away ?

[@Chrisbroadhurst-xy9jh]

All over a bag of wind sad when England play you’re all mates flags side by side

[@jamesbong4928]

And you still haven't grown up? This is why everyone should say 'no' to inbreeding.

[@paulkillick527]

Never forget when I lived in the Bermondsey area think it was around the middle to late 90s and Millwall were playing stoke on a Sunday I kid you not they were in a pub in Bermondsey double early 300 handed and though I never saw nothing but did hear that they caught Millwall out can anyone confirm? I’m West Ham by the way and that graveyard 🪦 and walking towards the ground with the terraced houses I think the road split and it always went off up there especially in those streets good firm stoke 👍

[@drover110]

aye it was tropics- they set it alight and gave Millwall a real shock by all accounts. NUFC

[@Spiderdan-60]

Millllll

[@Inmyopinion10101]

That wasn’t the only time. We done millwall on London Bridge. 70 stoke lads. It was mental. I’m 57 now. About 15 years ago I met a lady sunbathing on the beach in Mexico. We got chatting and she was a retired underground police officer. The conversation got round to that London Bridge battle. I recall about 89. She said it was the worse violence she ever witnessed. Nasty in her words and she said stoke were impressive. I asked who are the worst team to come to London. Leeds she replied. But that was the worst she had seen. Fair play to the millwall. Top firm.

[@Spiderdan-60]

@@Inmyopinion10101 I was away in Northern Ireland in 89, id heard about it, can't see that happening, and we had Hull come down they were a good firm hull

[@phillipkells]

Yes ur right Stoke run Millwall that day outclassed Millwall

[@drover110]

Stoke a top mob for a number of years- we've had some run in with them over the years home and away. NUFC

[@marcellos9208]

Newcastle never had a top firm

[@martinpye549]

Newcastle ...4KNL ... brought 9,000 one year ....only 5,000 official tickets. They did do some damage.

[@drover110]

Stoke murdered us tbh but we got revenge back in 08!!@@martinpye549

[@marcellos9208]

@@martinpye549 bullshit

[@ozymandias9234]

You can tell this is a load of old codswallop when the narrator, a supposed Stoke fan, says Bootham Crescent ground, the stadium of York City.

[@markjenkins3609]

The former ground of York

[@stephenrice1592]

West ham never got done looooooool

[@phillipkells]

Got run by Luton Migs fact

[@garyedwards9759]

​@@phillipkellsreally?? never see that in the 80s fact.

[@stephenrice1592]

@@phillipkells I was just being funny mate

[@pablojablo6371]

They came unstuck at Anfield in the 70's.

[@rogermoore-gd9do]

He dont sound like he from London does he.

[@SmokeNUFC]

Ah I love hearing about the football firms and the fights back in the day

[@tommydoyle9385]

Great Video.👏

[@enquirer2.0]

Cheers my brother hope Yr well

[@nicholasbarnes8853]

Bookham crescent was York City. Not legitimate.

[@natureandoutdoors]

1998 at stoke was mayhem. mcfc.

[@user-me-user-you]

The year they went down

[@orbytl2799]

yeah man, i remember that year i was in burslem later in the evening and it went off with vale too after you lot had gone home 😆

[@martinpye549]

my cousins were there. I was in Oz.

[@northstand100]

Big Bill, after we woke up, a man at the end of his days remember him melting and denying who he was or what team he followed.

[@p90497]

Happy days.

[@samb3168]

V good vid 💯👍

[@enquirer2.0]

Thanks mate

[@davidanderson30]

West ham are massive everywhere they go

[@RichardEllis-p7l]

Get battered everywhere they go. Southern ponces

[@justinnewton9509]

I watched the film cass based on a true story about a west ham hooligan from icf. Good film

[@enquirer2.0]

Stoke lads were in that as extras

[@justinnewton9509]

@@enquirer2.0 oh really didn't know that. Fight scenes were very good that'll be why there weren't acting it was there bread n butter and had plenty of experience in fighting. Great channel keep up the good work.

[@enquirer2.0]

​@justinnewton9509 Thanks mate. True story the blonde guy in the film can't remember his name got hit properly and had go hospital which caused him issues for another film he was supposed to be in after. I can't remember the actors name

[@justinnewton9509]

@@enquirer2.0 I think I know the 1 you mean I did recognize him from rise of the foot solider or something like that. Occupational hazard I suppose.

[@phillipkells]

Film pure fantasy Cass is a well known grass

[@herbert9241]

Stoke City have gone up and down all four divisions over the years: Stoke lads are no secret to anyone who follows football - through first hand experience or reliable testimony. I'll never get dewey-eyed about 'the casual era' (I thought it was utter bollocks but I warmed to some of the lads as I got to know them) and I've never read a hooli book. Funny thing is, talking to 'younger' (under 40) lads these days, topic turns to footy and you impart a couple of anecdotes ... I'm often met with the assumption that I got it off some KZbin upload - like they do. They think they can cite the same reference. Absolutely not. If I was talking about someone else's experiences as seen on a KZbin upload - I would say exactly that. I don't understand the need to pretend you're someone else.

[@enquirer2.0]

Completely agree . I was involved but went on to other things but still mates with the lads although it's all finished now imo. A lot of the city revolved round the football lads in Stoke from security to owning pub n clubs etc

[@martinintrospective3491]

@@enquirer2.0I had a club called INTROSPECTIVE with my mate Tess. You might of heard of it ? It was the first one in Longton . It was at The Leisurebowl. The Stoke lads did the Door.-1989-1991?. The we had The Freetown & The Groove Bar. Same script, The Stoke lads did the door there too BITD Good Bunch of lads. I The Digbeth Institute in Birmingham . The Football lads from Birmingham did the door there as well.

[@dwayneforbeschalmers]

1st firm was Aberdeen in scotland by REMY

[@neilweir7149]

TRUE ! 👍

[@pablojablo6371]

Liverpool showed you how to dress in 1980.

[@jonathanphillips9366]

You're a Stokie?

[@enquirer2.0]

Yes

[@jonathanphillips9366]

@@enquirer2.0 And support West Ham?

[@mariobennison2706]

From Stoke but support West ham Why

[@nameisdohfor]

I thought this said Ice T meets stoke . So I’m not watching

[@aliverbirduponmychest3055]

ICF, I remember them going home from Anfield minus their trainers and coats back in the day

[@IrishSpursFan]

walleys the lot of them :(

[@mm2280]

The only thing Stoke fans ever did was sling bricks at the away trains from a graveyard

[@davidhanson3661]

Talk 💩💩 , if you could throw a brick from the stoke graveyard, you should be in the Olympics!!

[@martinpye549]

Crystal Palace out of the station .... they were FULL bricks. Graveyard ? Half bricks ?? ... we valued half bricks in Stoke. Helps to make new bottle kilns for the pottery industry. You must have been special if we gave you half a brick. Be a good throw from the graveyard to the station. They'd be on a Major League Baseball Contract and £30 million quid.

[@leekirkham1985]

So they slung bricks almost two miles? That's got be a world record surely? Impressive if true.

[@MrTerryb1956]

@@davidhanson3661 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@marksandbach8228]

@@davidhanson3661 Must have been Rory Delap :-D

[@josephsmith9670]

Stoke's Bootham crescent ground ?

[@lynnjones4291]

Hello 😊

[@enquirer2.0]

Hi 👋

[@waz1092]

Love the football stories can we av some men in black or Red army mufc

[@Bri-254]

Stoke or West Ham never showed at Old Trafford during 70s and early 80s that's a fact i can tell you mate.

[@KevinCally]

​@@Bri-254 Evil place Utd Not for the faint hearted Shady especially for us Scousers

[@enquirer2.0]

There's the Ferry one I can do

[@Bri-254]

​​@@KevinCally At least the scousers came back then mate and I can only remember Rangers being the other.

[@IssacLHunt]

Football Hooligan are worst than Gloryhunters not welcome at Football ground.Real football supporters shake hands after the game all the best for rest of the season.

[@tonemc6047]

What world do you live in ?

[@IssacLHunt]

@@tonemc6047 Earth any more stupid question?

[@davidbarclay2335]

Younger fan not from the 70's 80's

[@leekirkham1985]

Yeah, and then we ride home on our unicorns.

[@ullscarf]

Stoke didn't play at Bootham Crescent, that was York City.

[@williamwootton9458]

Birmingham bashed stoke all time home and away

[@Spiderdan-60]

Zulu 👊💥💯

[@malthusXIII-fo3ep]

RUBBISH! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@williamwootton9458]

Does truth hurt muppets stoke​@@malthusXIII-fo3ep

[@williamwootton9458]

@@malthusXIII-fo3ep uno it's truth truth hurts

[@davemorris1710]

Not true

[@seanbongs]

Naughty 40

[@simonphipps1758]

🥱

[@nobdayid]

Nothing big bashing the Ice Cream Firm.. COYS..

[@whufc6764]

prick🌩

[@kflem80]

Grow up

[@fredericklee6899]

Don’t remember them coming to Upton Park

[@Lionboy2930]

Correct...

[@TheWESTSIDE1967]

Not many came to upton park, it was horrible for away fans oh bill run ragged 🇬🇧⚒

[@mjh5437]

@@TheWESTSIDE1967 Upton Park was a dump for home fans too tbh lolol

[@TheWESTSIDE1967]

@@mjh5437 it was an old skool stadium better than the shit we have today, not just WEST HAM but all the modern stadiums are souless

[@paularger2841]

Can someone explain the appeal of football violence? It seems so bloody pointless to me.

[@JohnLloyd-u5c]

West brom Lloydy knocked one ov the top n40 lads sparkout right outside the brummie rd in the 80s, he got nict for it, was payback for wat happend in the glebe pub..

[@Tom-g3n]

Handsworth boys were WBA main firm, rob Wilson and Dave, RIP Dave wilson

[@JohnLloyd-u5c]

@@Tom-g3n iv never heard ov them geezers pal..im 62..i was there all the time..the star & garter pub in town was our place..muttley, pona..lloydy..proper geezers..we dun stoke few times

[@JohnLloyd-u5c]

@@Tom-g3n yeh.my mate just said he new wilson..in 1979 in west brom town..no body cud take us

[@JohnLloyd-u5c]

@@Tom-g3n think yr getting mixed up with the smethwick lads..bowie..ect...

[@noncookiecutter6753]

West Brom couldn’t run a bath

[@jamesfaircloth5469]

I’ve got that book in the photo with the congratulations your met the icf it’s a real good read and I’ve got a book on the stoke naughty 40 was it I’ve forgot without looking

[@enquirer2.0]

Yes mate 'Naughty'

[@jamesfaircloth5469]

@@enquirer2.0 I thought so have a good weekend mate 👍

[@ChestRockwell-q1t]

Jasper wasn't just a top lad at football he was a proper Fagan father type figure to the lads of all ages. Common knowledge up stoke that when jasper moved to the coast anyone with hard time issues addiction on the run or just needed a fresh start they were sent up to stay with him no questions asked

[@mjh5437]

Sounds like a kiddie-fiddler.

[@upsidedownnoise]

Is that you projecting mush?