Interesting properties of circular magnet arrays with the same poles on each side

[@OmegaZZ111]

The compass I used in this video has it’s magnetic south pole where north is marked, unlike most compasses that are made to be viewed from the top. This compass is supposed to be viewed from the side, that’s why the arrow points away from north. Sadly I have to make this pinned comment because there are people leaving comments questioning my sanity in impolite ways regarding my ability to determine a magnets polarity correctly.

[@PastoralTeacher]

What would happen it a electrical wire passed thru the middle of theses arrangements? Affect the current any?

[@zueistpriest]

I am curious if it would be possible to create an opposite to what you’ve done in this video; instead of a location with diminished eddy current, an area with “infinite” eddy current. Are there any ways you can think of to manipulate the strength or location of that point without using electricity?

[@PerceiveBelieve]

Drop one of those arrays through a copper pipe, or thick roll of aluminum foil:)

[@PerceiveBelieve]

Also "K Energy" YT channel makes and sells motors/battery chargers with similar setups.

[@samwillard5688]

What would they SOUND like? Make them squat and use them for pickups. Or speakers.

[@denyraw]

This person has learned a model of magnetism that is clearly different from the mainstream one, but that is NO REASON AT ALL to be so toxic. It's also NOT an irrepairably wrong idea to view magnetic fields as rotations instead of vectors. It's in fact more intuitive since magnetic fields are classically created by rotating currents and cause moving charges to rotate in the same plane as the current. The magnetic field vectors are a way to mathematically describe the field caused by said rotation of current. They are defined as perpendicular to the plane of rotation and with a magnitude dependent on the strength of rotation. The right hand rule is used to decide their orientation, but it is in fact arbitrary. The maths would work the same way if a left hand rule was used everywhere. The maths would NOT work if you'd mix up using both left and right hand rules. The right (or left) hand rule only works in 3 dimensions. This hints that rotation may actually be a more fundamental description of the magnetic field and that the vectors are just a tool, since rotation works in any amount of dimensions and needs no arbitrary handed rules. In fact, in special relativity, in which spacetime is 4 dimensional, bivectors are used to describe the magnetic field. Bivectors are also used to describe the electric field. The electromagnetic field is the sum of those two bivector fields. Similarly to how vectors can be viewed as oriented line segments, bivectors can be viewed as oriented plane segments. The map between bivectors and rotation is very inherent. A rotation that is of the same plane as a bivector, has the same orientation as a bivector and has the same strength as the size of a bivector is mapped to that bivector. If you want to know more about bivectors you can learn about geometric algebra and spacetime algebra. The KZbin channel sudgylacmoe can serve as an introduction to that.

[@denyraw]

I did not watch this channel's other videos before writing this. I do not agree with every single video so don't strawman me for that

[@OmegaZZ111]

@@denyraw Thanks for your wise words. I want to add that even the mainstream models of magnetism acknowledge the rotation of the magnetic field, if you look for larmor frequency or magnetic moment. To simplify it even more, if you place a magnet towards a CRT monitor you can clearly see the two vortices on each pole that warp the image clockwise and counterclockwise. This would be impossible if the magnetic field wouldn’t be rotating or in other words have vortices on each poles.

[@nonlinearplasma]

If we wanted to define the difference between the North and South Poles of a magnet then the only way to do it is to use Clockwise and counterclockwise Gryokinetic motion of each atom in the atomic structure. This means that the correct term is that parallel motion of poles attract as opposed to opposite poles attract since opposite poles rotate in the same direction to each others perspectives.

[@FractalOmniverse]

B e autiful

[@grazianoturbogas]

​@@OmegaZZ111actually I would like to perform a very peculiar experiment with electromagnets to try to see if there is an actual spiral structure into magnetic field. Comment if you are interested

[@TalkingMonkey1]

Excellent examples. Thank you.

[@Pierre-Marie-9-6-5]

Hello dear OmegaZz. Once again you propose a very nice work and a beautiful experiment. It is true that you are disturbing your knowledge on the subject and it's why you are so important. Thanks again for sharing the numerous hours of your work with us. It's because people like you exist that the vision of reality can be changed.

[@OmegaZZ111]

That’s very kind of you, thank you.

[@machinemaker2248]

Now do something with them that will blow our minds. 👍

[@exponentialnegative1]

Permanent magnet motors often have these arrangements. The Bedini motors were often like this

[@smichels5117]

Concise and correct. Thank you.

[@adams74]

Very interesting video. Good work.

[@emmaarcher]

this is very in depth (fascinating stuff)

[@gayshawndayleequeef1946]

Try running water through it, lol or slide em down a coper pipe. Inside one and outside. Would be interesting I think

[@haroldvanveldhuizen9525]

This array might serve as a magnetic lens of some sorts perhapsz we could use them to contain the plasma, achieve cold fusion anyway and would be interesting to further discover the effect of the vortex flipping

[@TheTrumanZoo]

i wonder what happens to electricity if you pull a cable through the magnets, if it has also perhaps interesting new properties.

[@Leandro_]

Now that you maybe understood the cilynder magnet, make a sphere magnet with the south poles pointed inward, to see whats happen.

[@sbandc]

@@Leandro_ According to this guy, spheres don't have poles. He must not be from Earth.

[@dailylifeofanimals7158]

Can the rotation be quantified

[@littlefish9305]

if you build it the other way so that the repulsive force is towards the centre of the ring you could get the needle to float in the middle?

[@falls2shine712]

It seems like its possible to create magnetic shapes using opposite pole placement for pressure. Also, what do you think about putting a smaller apposing array into a larger arrays center and spinning it, or both? Would that cause a lot of electrostatic shear? Maybe even cause some fractal toroidal moments that persist.

[@elvistesla3179]

What you should really do are two things. 1) show your arrays under a Ferrocell....even if you make your own. 2) what happens when you rotate them....does the field expand....do you get induction manifestations of any types?

[@OmegaZZ111]

I have to rebuild my ferrocell as it’s image quality isn’t that great, but I will probably make a video at some point showing my most interesting arrays under a good ferrocell. I think you would have to rotate them faster than what the arrays could handle to see a meaningful expansion of the field. Induction on a coil would surely occur if you spin them.

[@samwillard5688]

​@@OmegaZZ111how does one construct such a thing?

[@ruebenmikoch]

How did you make the copper holders?

[@OmegaZZ111]

They are 3D printed, it is just copper colored plastic.

[@juanolivares-ruiz8028]

OmegaZZ, you are performing very interesting configurations with the magnets. Can you state what material you used for the containers that hold the magnets in their respective orientations? The containers look to be made of copper.

[@OmegaZZ111]

It’s not real copper, the magnet holders are 3D printed with copper colored plastic.

[@IvanP-gv1wi]

Interesting video sir, but how can you be sure that they are clockwise and counterclockwise like that?

[@ninukanjan9400]

hi, great, could you link the STL files for all your magnet arrays ? ty

[@TalkingMonkey1]

I might say 'torsion' instead of 'rotation' to indicate twisting force/vectors without physical motion. There may be magnetic circulation, but the trick is to harness/prove it. It's hard enough to establish torsion for people taught something else. As another visual example, you might use nuts with internal threads. The internal threads can represent the torsional field.

[@NathanNavarrete-r5m]

What’s it used for?

[@moomoocowplus]

Have you tried putting a magnet wire down through thst null zone and see what kind of oscilloscope reading you get? might have to move it around a bit bit but tesla and vortex coils work on that principle and its possible to collect energy from the center.

[@1kreature]

Your magnetic model seem to be confusing the charged particle path helical motion that with a changing magnetic field would create vortexes for actual continuous vortexes? Lorentz forces cause this. I can't reconcile the concept of using rotation/vortexes to describe this as in my mind something has to be contributing energy to a continously rotating entity. Funny shaped arrays are always fun though! What would happen if you used an Halbach arrangement of the magnets? Can the field be only UP and around the circle of the array?

[@calcoin4199]

When the needle falls through with no apparent force are Eddy currents still being generated in the needle if it was dropped through a longer pipe i wonder would the needle come out hot there is a net zero feild but i believe there is still a feild the pin is diving through but maybe not magnetic anymore. Cool videos brother

[@skilton675]

can you say sir🙏 how to make dual sided magnet and iron push without attract magnet and iron.

[@kreynolds1123]

Axial south poles and radial north poles. 😊

[@daltdaherm]

Would a copper ball wound with wire, one lead comes out the top, one lead comes out the bottom, would it be possible to oscillate the ball through the middle of the magnetic zero point and create energy?

[@sbandc]

This may be off topic, but I was curious whether you knew why we don't consider charges to be magnetic monopoles...

[@OmegaZZ111]

Monopoles can’t exist, try to imagine a stick with just one end (or one pole) it’s not possible.

[@sbandc]

@OmegaZZ111 Why do they exist theoretically in our current models about the world? We have electromagnetic forces because every phenomenon we observe that has to do with electric current or electrons has a corresponding principle in magnetism. We know that electricity and magnetism is intrinsically correspondent. If we can induce an electric current, for instance, with a magnet, then an electric current produces a magnetic field. All of these phenomena with electricity have a corresponding principle in magnetism except one. Electrons and their electric field. Electrons function exactly the same way a magnetic monopole would. They are literally your stick with one end. Negative charges only pull, and positive charges push. Why don't electric charges have opposing ends?

[@OmegaZZ111]

@ Theoretical models can accurately describe an observed phenomenon but they are not necessarily the correct explanation. Again, just try to imagine a monopole, it is not possible.

[@sbandc]

@OmegaZZ111 Right, but you do realize that you're using the same models to explain the phenomenon in your videos as the ones you're disagreeing with by saying monopoles can't exist. Which is not only a bold claim for an absolute, but you haven't explained why they can't exist other than 'imagine a stick". I could just as easily tell you to imagine a ball to prove they do exist. Do you know why they can't exist, why you haven't brought this to the attention of physicists- as it would change our current models, do you have a model to replace them with, and if monopoles can't exist then how can electrons exist with charge? That's the main one... If monopoles can't exist, why can electrons?

[@OmegaZZ111]

@@sbandc A sphere has no poles, a stick must necessarily always have two ends (poles), there is no such thing as a monopole in our observable universe, it is a theoretical model. Also there is no experimental evidence that an electron particle actually exists, it is a theoretical model too. It doesn’t make much sense to back up one theoretical model with another theoretical model.

[@thomasgerster8405]

I've heared of an experiment where two pairs of magnet were dropped from a high building multiple times. One pair had the north poles facing against each other (they were clamped against each other with screws) and the other pair had it in series (north facing south, also with screws to keep it the same weight), the pair that had the same poles against each other took always longer to reach the ground! When I was thinking about an explanation, I came up with the idea that the aether must flow verry fast at the contact point of the pair with the same poles facing each other because it has to move the same amount of aether but trough a small gap. so there must be verry high flux between these magnets. According to some UFO stories, they create an verry strong magnetic field around the craft, this way it isolates itself from the gravitational field. Would be interesting to see if your magnet arrays also have this effect because the magnetic fields are kinda squeezed 🤔😅.

[@CG-rr6yx]

I don't get the point of the construction / demonstration. The magnetic field is the sum of the individual fields of the component magnetic bars, every single one having 2 geometrically opposite poles. Insofar, nothing new or surprising. Also, hard to imagine a practical application .

[@icebluscorpion]

That Tipical parrot out of the engineering school brain thinking there. Parrot don't think out of the box. They lack on Fantasy or logic thinking outside of that what they have learned. they just regularly regurgitate out of their Bible but are blind for curiosity. 🤣

[@troywhite6039]

There is no motion in a magnetic field until you put it in motion. The field lines are stationary forces. There is no rotation direction in stationary.

[@OmegaZZ111]

That is absolutely not true at all. There is no such thing as a stationary field, all fields are rotating.

[@machinemaker2248]

View a magnet's fields in 3d with a ferrocell to get what he's talking about.

[@Mistater-fl9ur]

We are prehistoric men in relation to what magnetism and light are brought to the coming generations....If they are not slaughtered before.!

[@RexAnothership]

Vortexes form in gases and liquids. So what is a magnetic vortex forming in? A vortex of what?

[@wongowonga]

In the ether, the medium that radio waves also travel in.... that science tries to deny

[@orionx79]

No space is a medium, it travel through space. Space can be manipulated​. Bent shrunk extended. You're a fish and space is the water. Not really but yea space is the canvas all matter is painted on. @@wongowonga

[@RexAnothership]

@@wongowonga This has to be but there has been no confirmation in physics that an ether exists.

[@ShifuCareaga]

@@RexAnothership This is not correct. If you want to know more, ask me. I won't bother explaining if you don't want to know.

[@wongowonga]

@@RexAnothership how do radio waves propagate if there is no ether?

[@smichels5117]

👍😊

[@stevenlaube7535]

you do know opposite pole attract

[@brianmurphy8790]

Apparently he doesn't..

[@OmegaZZ111]

Yes I am aware that opposite poles attract, but apparently you guys don’t know that there is more than one type of compass.

[@brianmurphy8790]

@@OmegaZZ111 More than one type of compass. Yeah, one that works and one that doesn't.

[@OmegaZZ111]

@@brianmurphy8790No there are compasses that are supposed to be viewed from the side and not from the top, that’s why the magnet inside the compass is inverse to a compass that is supposed to be viewed from the top. If you had taken a close look at the arrow pointing away from north you would have noticed that. Now be ashamed for leaving all that vile comments under my video that spring from your lack of understanding.

[@brianmurphy8790]

@@OmegaZZ111 Right, so you have a 'special' compass that points 180 degrees in the wrong direction. Cool story bro...

[@wongsiewkok7914]

Redial magnets. Nothing new. Used for frictionless magnets bearing.

[@bmobert]

Serious/honest question: What experiment can be done to show the rotation direction of the magnetic vortex?

[@OmegaZZ111]

Very simple: Put a magnet against a CRT monitor, you will see that the image gets distorted clockwise on one pole and counterclockwise on the other pole. This will also damage the CRT monitor, so do this only with a monitor you don’t need anymore.

[@bmobert]

@OmegaZZ111 Doesn't that have more to do with the EMF of the electrons than the twist of a.magnetic vortex?

[@nln1515]

@@OmegaZZ111 You don't damage the CRT, the modern ones have a degauss coil around the viewside that is fired at power up and for the olds, you just let them unplugged of the wall for hours and the residual magnetism disappear. Thanks, it was very interesting, i always wondered if there would be a zero point in the middle, there is !

[@action4free369]

Schau dir das mal an. Im thumbnail siehst schon die Wirbel. Das bild ist glaube vob Walther Russel. Ich hab in alten Büchern zumindest gefunden das da erheblich Zensiert wurde. Is schon ein Jahr her. Meine erkenntnise daraus, versteht irg3ndwie niemand. Vieleicht sollten wir mal reden. Sehr schön gezeigt. Lg kzbin.info/www/bejne/nKfcpIOmaL5rZqcsi=7Ow-bxY1XsdPxL51

[@jensbuchholz5766]

❤

[@friedrichfreigeist3292]

You lost me at 4min. What vorteces are you talking about? Could you please use the Maxwell-Equations to elaborate further on this concept?

[@machinemaker2248]

View the fields in 3d with a ferrocell. You'll see them. Then come back and tell us how to apply Maxwell's equations to elaborate on what you saw.

[@friedrichfreigeist3292]

@@machinemaker2248 I am asking the content creator to elaborate on his findings further.

[@paulmurphy3838]

Very novel and very ingenious but of course you don't explain your intentions about what you expect to achieve or what application you envision for these "armatures". Most importantly how did you build them. You certainly did not pour molten copper over the magnets or you would have demagnitised them.

[@OmegaZZ111]

It is not real copper, it is 3D printed plastic that is copper colored.

[@paulmurphy3838]

@@OmegaZZ111 ---Hi my friend, I have been fooling around with over-unity motors for decades but no luck. That still has not stopped me, What are you trying to achieve ?

[@solarroller09]

Wowwww❤😊😍👍🏻 You just confirmed the 12 axis Dielectric gyroscopic universe 🤗😃 Awesome enlightening video👍🏻🤗😃👌🏻

[@diefans]

...I did a magnetic rotor research, basically with the same alignment (same pole outwards), that might be of interest: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5qcYaanZshqZrc ...thanks for your work!

[@NathanNavarrete-r5m]

Tesla (the unit): The Tesla (symbol: T) is a unit of measurement for magnetic flux density (magnetic field strength) in the International System of Units (SI). It is named after the inventor Nikola Tesla. One Tesla is defined as one weber per square meter. In this context, “militesla” would be a subunit, specifically one-thousandth of a Tesla (0.001 T), often used in scientific contexts where weaker magnetic fields are being measured.

[@Bialy_1]

"Milli (symbol m) is a unit prefix in the metric system denoting a factor of one thousandth (10^(−3)). Proposed in 1793, and adopted in 1795, the prefix comes from the Latin mille, meaning one thousand (the Latin plural is milia). Since 1960, the prefix is part of the International System of Units (SI)." So no, "militesla" is not a subunit of a Tesla as it is literally a fraction of a Tesla => it is Tesla... Your whole issue here is that you are clearly from a country that is using this medieval systems aka is not metric

[@r5a773]

Чё вообще наговорил... Учи русский, говори на нём!!

[@brianmurphy8790]

I can't take a video seriously when the most basic fundamental is completely wrong.

[@OmegaZZ111]

So what is wrong in your opinion?

[@newmonengineering]

Go look up EtherealMachanics on KZbin. His channel is has extensive research on magnets and simulation of it. Even he speaks of SPIN in relation to magnetic fields. He has some very deep dives and has created simulation software that is more accurate than the existing software. Once you review his content please explain what is wrong here.

[@ShifuCareaga]

​@@OmegaZZ111 I don't think they know about edge currents

[@cphVlwYa]

I think he means that since the Earth's magnetic "north" pole is actually magnetically the south pole that the use of a compass means everything you say is south is actually north and vice versa. The reason for this is that "North" on the compass itself is magnetically north on the compass needle which means it'll align towards south poles. Edit: I see that you addressed this in your pinned comment. But that would still be my guess for what he meant

[@samwillard5688]

​@ShifuCareaga opposed to eddy currents? I seem to observe that the strongest magnetic "Pull", comes from the edges of the magnet. I do not believe that this is what is taught, however. Which is correct?