Just wanted to say that this is IMO problem I've ever solved :D I'm very happy, but since I don't really have anyone to share it with, I will share it with you guys!
@leofilmont26314 жыл бұрын
Amazing video !! This is definitely one of the hardest problems I came across on this channel. I ended up finding a much longer solution than this one (after struggling for hours and hours 😳), but not uninteresting for all that. I started by solving the case where x is divisible by p right the same way as in the video, wich allows then to assume that x is coprime with p, and that way to have m×x + n×p = 1 for some whole numbers m and n (Bezout). Then the fact that x^(p-1) divides (p-1)^x + 1 implies x| (p-1)^x +1 which implies x | (n^x) ×((p-1)^x +1) x| (np-n)^x + n^x x| (1 - mx -n)^x + n^x x| (1-n)^x + n^x and given that x is odd, x | n^x - (n-1)^x So I proved that this is impossible except if x=1, which is also a pretty interesting result : the difference of two consecutive numbers raised to the power x is not divisible by x unless x is equal to one. So yeah if anyone is interested in this problem...😁😁 it's worth a try. Great video anyway, great problems, great channel...hope it'll continue like that.
@rgqwerty634 жыл бұрын
Small correction at 12:05, (q-1,x) = 1 because q is the smallest prime divisor of x, not because q is any old divisor of x. eg x=20 q=5
@rahafa33824 жыл бұрын
also q-1 is even , x is odd and q-1 is less than x
@kt3pkmn274 жыл бұрын
A (probably) easier way to finish is to square both sides by the time we get to: (p-1)^x = -1(mod q) (p-1)^(2x) = 1(mod q) By Fermat's Little, (q-1) must divide 2x (do you see why?). Since q is the smallest odd prime divisor of x, (q-1) will not divide x (on other problems, be careful when q can be 2); Therefore, (q-1) must divide 2. It follows q=3. Once we get q | p, we're done.
@otakurocklee4 жыл бұрын
I like your idea, but I think you're slightly off. We don't know that (q-1) must divide 2x from Fermat's little theorem. We know that a common factor d of (q-1) and 2x has (p-1)^d = 1 (mod q). The only common factors of (q-1) and 2x are 1 and 2. We know that since (p-1)^x = -1(mod q), we know d is not 1. Hence d is 2 and (p-1)^2 = 1 (mod q). That gives us (p-1) = -1 (mod q). So we get p=q. But we still need the additional part in the video to get p=3.
@kt3pkmn274 жыл бұрын
@@otakurocklee You're right. I was trying to use the concept of orders, but I think I wasn't too careful about it. Here's a more correct line of reasoning to get q=3: x = 0 (mod q) (x-1) = -1 (mod q) (x-1)^2 = 1 (mod q) We deduce 2 is the order of (x-1) mod q; hence, 2 | q-1 q=3.
@otakurocklee4 жыл бұрын
@@kt3pkmn27 But how do you get from 2|q-1 to q=3. 2|q-1 can also mean q=7 or q=11.
@Miguel-xd7xp4 жыл бұрын
@@otakurocklee q is the smallest prime that q|x I think that is for that
@digxx2 жыл бұрын
@@Miguel-xd7xp I don't see it. q=7 could be the smallest prime...
@antoniopalacios81604 жыл бұрын
It is really elegant how you resolve the ambiguity (p-1) congruent with +- 1 (mod q), obtaining p-1 congruent with -1 (mod q) by having to be a=odd.
@limerent4 жыл бұрын
Amazing solution! It was an unexpected use of Bezouts gcd trick, good job.
@leif10754 жыл бұрын
Is that the only solution?
@leif10754 жыл бұрын
Isnt there a way to solve it without Bezoutz trick?
@supercube35234 жыл бұрын
The combination of Bezout's with Fermat is so beautiful!! By the way, it seems we can also get to x=p without using Bezout's theorem. starting from (p-1)^x + 1 = 0 (mod x) we have (p-1)^x = -1 (mod x) and then x will not divide p-1 Fermat's little therom: (p-1)^(x-1) = 1 (mod x) (p-1)^x = p-1 (mod x) and (p-1)^x = p-1 = -1 (mod x) p=0 (mod x) x will divide p (odd prime) and x>=3 means x = p
@tonyha88884 жыл бұрын
You assume x is a prime, which is not true.
@appleyuan87104 ай бұрын
@@tonyha8888 x is actually a prime when p >= 3, x > 1. Obviously, x is odd, since (p - 1)^x + 1 is odd. A more reasonable way using Fermat's little theorem might be: Let x = m*n where m is an odd prime factor and n is an odd factor. (p-1)^x + 1 can be divided by x means it can be divided by m. We have (p-1)^x + 1 = (p-1)^(m*n) + 1 = ((p-1)^m)^n + 1 = 0 (mod m). According to Fermat's little theorem: (p-1)^m = (p-1) (mod m) and we have (p-1)^n = -1 (mod m). Since n is odd, p - 1 = -1 (mod m) and p = 0 (mod m), which means p can be divided by m (>=3). So m = p and x = np. Note that x
@josephgrossenbacher76424 жыл бұрын
Michael , yours are some of the best maths-vids here on "youtube" , so thanks : i always enjoy them if i can spare some time ... !!!
@sirgog4 жыл бұрын
A problem from my second IMO! Got 5/7 for it, which usually means I solved most of the problem but missed a non-trivial but not too complex case. Can't remember the solution I had in the exam. Questions 1 and 3 were so much more memorable from this IMO.
@adrianamor84724 жыл бұрын
11:54 let x = 54, q = 3, then we have x = 18 q, so q | x. Also q - 1 = 2 and q-1 shares a common divisor with x, which is 2. I think he should be more clear when these facts are stated as to what conditions exactly x and q must meet (independently of previous facts assumed in a different context).
@최용휘-n8k4 жыл бұрын
재밌어요! 24분동안 지루하지 않게 이해가 잘 되면서 들었습니다. 감사해요
@hoangkhongngo4 жыл бұрын
In fact, Order of an integer and Lifting the exponent Lemma can be used to shorten the solution. Besides, using the above tools helps us ignore the hypothesis that x
@3manthing4 жыл бұрын
Very nice. Love the approach and your explanation. :)
@sumukhhegde66774 жыл бұрын
Great!! Please make videos more of this kind
@sumukhhegde66774 жыл бұрын
@Bigblrman75 Surya 😁😁😁
@rd-bz8dg4 жыл бұрын
Good work man! Luv ur vids 😊😀😄
@jakobus50984 жыл бұрын
LTE destroy the problem : suppose p > 3 and so x odd and > 1. Since x^(p-1) divides (p-1)^x + 1, we have v_p(x^(p-1)) = (p-1)v_p(x) = 1, this is trivially false, so v_p(x) must be equal to 0. So p doesnt divide x and x^(p-1), but divides (p-1)^x + 1 (since v_p((p-1)^x +1)>0), impossible bc x > 1. So p
@goodplacetostop29734 жыл бұрын
24:09
@aleksapupovac4 жыл бұрын
Nice
@stefanstojkovic87124 жыл бұрын
Nice
@cletushumphrey91634 жыл бұрын
Nice
@dheerdaksh4 жыл бұрын
Nice
@helo38273 жыл бұрын
Nice
@ArunIyerS4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting use of Bezout's with Fermat!
@POOJASingh-mq6kx4 жыл бұрын
Seeing your videos makes me feel that even imo problems are very easy😂
@drpkmath123454 жыл бұрын
Love number theory for sure!
@lucassandleris44864 жыл бұрын
Maybe an easier way to finish it off could've been to use Lifting the expoment Lemma, by arguing that vp(1^p+(p-1)^p)=vp(p)+vp(p-1+1)=2 therefore p-1≤2 thus p≤3. Checking the case p=3 finishes it.
@shokan71784 жыл бұрын
Small nitpick: Whenever you say "Give this problem ago with the hints", you have stood in front of the problem for about a minute by now and I can't remember the problem! :)
@yashvardhan20934 жыл бұрын
Sir I did that part you told if x=2 then the divisor is even but that implies that the rhs is also even now -2(p-1) is even and for the entire term to be even p^2 is even but that clearly implies p =2 and x=2 is only such solution
@irbesbayan-aula73744 жыл бұрын
Brilliant Solution. Thank You.
@vtvtify4 жыл бұрын
12:51 but what about the case where the x coefficient is negative and the q-1 coefficient is positive?
@yassinezaoui45554 жыл бұрын
Excellent 👏👏👏
@JoGurk4 жыл бұрын
how the hell are you supposed to solve this right away, even if you are IMO partitipant?!
@justforfun22384 жыл бұрын
Why would u expect an IMO participant to solve it right away?
@nurtasshyntas77454 жыл бұрын
@@justforfun2238 because it's problem #4. I would say that it's just experience - one familiar with orders modulo primes will in no time recognize the solution.
@roboto123454 жыл бұрын
Literally you just play with LTE lemma if you have no idea of how to proceed and as @Nurtas Shyntas said it is just order of an element
@leif10754 жыл бұрын
@@nurtasshyntas7745 but if you have NEVER heard of Fermat or Bezout isnt this impossible tonsolve and so not a fair test of intelligence or problem solving ability?
@justforfun22384 жыл бұрын
@@leif1075 mathematical knowledge is definitely needed in IMO
@ThePharphis4 жыл бұрын
This one seems difficult. Thanks for sharing
@petros_adamopoulos4 жыл бұрын
Could we call it a "Chalk drop"?
@VishnuSrivatsava4 жыл бұрын
what an amazing approach
@rogueartist94194 жыл бұрын
isnt bezouts Identity ax+by=1 ... why he wrote ax-by=1?
@aweebthatlovesmath42202 жыл бұрын
bezouts identity is ax+by=gcd(x,y) He decided to take b a negative number that's allowed if we don't have b.
@djvalentedochp4 жыл бұрын
I am jubilant right now
@leif10754 жыл бұрын
Why?
@djvalentedochp4 жыл бұрын
@@leif1075 because of the stunning solution Michael Penn had to this problem
@leif10754 жыл бұрын
@@djvalentedochp oh ok
@rksemwal81164 жыл бұрын
yo man no views?
@donaldbiden79274 жыл бұрын
how r u 1 week earlier ? u a patreonn ?
@djvalentedochp4 жыл бұрын
Wait.... how is that possible? 😂😂
@xriccardo18314 жыл бұрын
He leaves them unlisted and then makes them public