Intersex Lawsuit Settlement!

[@ssk6010]

If people ask: "Why do I have to fight for someone else's rights?" Tell them that fighting for your own rights is the meaning of power but fighting for someone else's rights is the meaning of humanity. This world is getting better. I always thought, 1 in 3 women get breast cancer, does this mean that they will take off her breast at birth? No. Therefore let someone's healthy body live the way it was beautifully made.

[@pidgepagonis]

SS K beautifully stated!

[@andiehernandez1995]

Beautiful video. I'm so happy for the Intersex community. Your laughter is so lovely Pidgeon

[@pidgepagonis]

thanks Andie ... I'm happy too!

[@IshaBoom]

Hey there. I'm an Australian cis white woman and watching your videos I am absolutely horrified at what has happened to you and people like you. What can I do as an average citizen who is not in the public eye, to aid the intersex case and act as an ally?

[@pidgepagonis]

Krystle Clark Hey Krystle, head on over to the Human Rights Watch link in the description and download her new report "Like Nature Made Me". At the end, there are recommendations. You can use those recommendations as you see fit. You can also check out Oii.org.au and reach out to them :) they are an amazing intersex organization in Australia. And if you're ever in New Zealand, be sure to connect with www.ianz.org.nz/about-itanz

[@oniciamuller]

Wonderful update. Keep moving forward. Love to M.C.

[@pidgepagonis]

[@BarbaraPrimousJackson]

Congratulations!!!! To Sean Saifa Wall, some of us do care about the trauma that you confront in those quiet moments. Some of us are outraged that you are personally forced to deal with the fallout of people "playing GOD" while they are sitting around patting themselves on their backs because of the unneeded interventions to your bodies. I'm outraged that this continues to happen in modern medicine when we used to have space for intersex people before the advent of white male led medicine. Thank you to you and Pidgeon for sharing your stories. Thank you for continuing to get up everyday, especially on those days that you don't want to. (Hugs) to you both and the others within your community.

[@apocalypse_frau]

Important news. Thanks for sharing, lovely Pidgeon!💜🌟💜🌟💜

[@esiris9651]

One of the first real conversations about having kids me and my fiance had was what to do if we some day get an intersex child. It was one where I thought I would have to 'fight' to get him to after with me to let that child grow up, just as they were born, and finding their own identity. But I was so wrong!! He was sitting there across from me preparering for the same fight as me. From the big medical dictonary, under the section intersex treatment we find this horrible thing: "In Norwegian hospitals, intersex conditions are treated medically, by the child being investigated and awarded a "education". The doctor is consulting the parents about this, but the decision is usually taken on the basis of internal and external genital organs and what is possible to achieve in surgery. After this, parents should not doubt whether the child is to be raised as a girl or boy. Then the child is operated before it is 1 ½ years for the sex organs to agree with the gender. " why must we raise out children as boys or girls? Why not just raise them to be good people?

[@MaikaClarke]

It is so important that this changes for the better. This is such an important story. We need to band together and work together to fix this and make life better for all of us.

[@leyclinch7992]

Before saying anything else I would just like to say that I have learnt an incredible amount from your videos and thank you for this oppertunity to learn and grow, and to become more aware of the world around me and the difficulties people could be silently struggling with. Like some other commenters I noticed your lack of mentioning white intersex individuals in your call for solidarity against this issue , a theme in your videos. My instant reaction was to be on the back foot, question why we (I am white) are not included. My second reaction was quite different. I was taught that your first knee jerk reaction to something is often what you've been taught. It's been portrayed through media and society to "protect" my race and find issue if I'm not included. But the thing Is, with the privilege that comes with being white is the assumption that I am included and welcomed in any group. Your second thought is what defines you, your conscious thought, what you have taught yourself and often what you, seperate from state and society, actually think. My second thought was that people of colour, are under represented, ignored and unacknowledged in pretty much everything. The issues that the majority of intersex people face are vast, horrific, and heart wrenching and the people behind the atrocities deserve a harsh light to be shone on them. But even in this group the privileges that come with being white remain. You don't have to mention white people as we get mentioned often enough. The world is run on the mentioning and speaking of white people. People of colour born Intersex are dealt a harsh hand in life,a hand very few people take the time to acknowledge or understand, to see the beauty or uniqueness of the individual in question beyond the physical labels we desire to stick on them and that is a shame. I respect the fact your pointedly mentioning people of colour and movements such as Black Lives Matter. I think to an extent, demanding "I" am mentioned is tone deaf, asking to be included a ridiculous notion. White people don't need to be mentioned. Chances are 99% have already assumed they're welcome. There are people out there who being so directly spoken about, addressed, invited, acknowledged, is needed so much more than I could ever dream of empathising with. I am thrilled to hear of the fact that MC won, as they shouldve. And I hope it is only the beginning in changing the way the world is currently running. These speculations are what was running through my mind while watching your videos and reading the comments. It's currently 4am, I'm on a night shift at work, so I apologise of this comment makes little to no sense or rambles on a bit. But your videos speaking out so bravely made me feel compelled to write out what I was thinking. So here we are. Remember, intersex stories not surgeries 💖💖💖

[@clairehiggins7120]

Yes!

[@Natanji]

What I don't understand is: the media talk about a "settlement". That means the judge never made a decision about it. So while I'm really happy about the outcome, doesn't this mean that in the end this case doesn't carry the weight anymore that people in the community would have hoped? It did not set legal precedent like this, did it? (I'm not a law expert, obviously)

[@pidgepagonis]

I'm not sure actually, but I think it still puts fear in surgeons hearts...

[@taylorbrewing]

Pidgeon it also proves to other who have undergone IGM that it's not pointless to fight for your human rights, and I think it'll inspire a wave of new cases brought against state and the federal government!

[@Jasmine171819]

It was a settlement. The hospital is saying they feel they have done no wrong (and I agree with them - these are very difficult cases for anybody as is), but to avoid expensive and time consuming litigation, they settled.

[@yourmajesty3569]

This is the first step towards change. Often a settlement is reached if they don't want to take it all the way through the courts. And they definitely didn't because they knew how huge this would get and how it would expose these human rights violations. It will happen in our lifetime. It will blow up. It's a journey.

[@khm2128]

They probably used "mediation" which uses a "judge" to mediate between the two parties. In the mediation, an agreement is reached. It would be rare for the accused party to admit anything concrete at all. Typically, there would be a confidentiality agreement. Be forewarned tho that the confidentiality IS NEGOTIABLE. If I could RE-DO my mediation, I would fight the confidentiality agreement part because I did nothing wrong (I was awarded a settlement - be advised that you can also stop the negotiation and take the number back up intead of further down. Be prepared to argue for yourself - lawyers are not always on the side they want to appear to be on .... liars..... I got a second opinion after my settlement.... it was a nightmare.)

[@lucyrickard9182]

This IS monumental!! He is very blessed to have parents who fought so hard for him. I pray he has a wonderful, fulfilling and happy life. But I do have a question for you. I'm sorry if I missed this in your videos. Why do you seem to care only for black / brown intersex people? There are many white intersex children who were genitally mutated as well. Do you think they don't go through the same hardships? Wouldn't including them be beneficial, increase your numbers to get the word out, to educate and get more done?? I have learned so much watching these KZbin videos. I think it's so important for all pregnant mothers to know about intersex so they can make the right choice and let their child make the choice when they are ready instead of being coerced by greedy doctors. "Education is the most powerful weapon which you can use to change the world." Nelson Mandela

[@spiralpython1989]

Connie Romero It's the "double disadvantage" issue. It's bad enough to have a single disadvantage, but when there are layers of disadvantage (oppression), it is so much harder to get justice, to reach the so called level playing field. Those layers include but are not limited to gender, sexuality, colour, indigenousness, disability, education and class. Yes there are white people dealing with these issues, but the issues and redress become more complex to negotiate when further levels of disadvantage also need to be negotiated: in the case of MC, removal from birth family is much more likely to occur from families of colour than white families. Children of colour or from indigenous backgrounds, and especially those with disabilities, are much more likely to be victims of abuse (of all typologies) in state care than white children, even though the white victims are more likely to be heard. Further, traditionally, people of colour have had less access to the legal system, and thus have had significantly reduced redress. Thus, when a person who is subject to multiple layers of disadvantage has a significant outcome, such as the case of MC, the outcome actually impacts the most marginalised people, and becomes a rallying call.

[@pidgepagonis]

Spiral Python you, my friend, are great🙌🏽

[@lucyrickard9182]

I totally understand that what you are saying is what makes this win so monumental. My only thought is why not use every resource available in the continuing fight. If being white is an advantage, why not include white intersex people to STOP genital mutilation of ALL babies and children. And why stop at white intersex people. Why not enlist the help of any and all people willing to fight for this cause. It is unbelievable that genital mutilation exists in this day and age. The more people the better to get the word out and educate all future parents and stop this atrocity!!

[@geekemedia]

The orvill made an episode about this

[@GabrielTheMagolorMain]

👏👏👏👏👏😊💜💜💜💜💜

[@dimatadore]

I’m starting to think testosterone is the aging hormone because none of you look a day over 18! The white hair on Sean tripped me up. Anyway congrats on your win guys! The medical industry is always learning and growing from its very patients and I think they were approaching intersex the wrong way 100%.

[@--5783]

There is no aging hormones. GT can be older to ever 👨 !

[@khm2128]

*Saint Pidgeon*

[@karinabambina10]

I know that trans is different from intersex but is leaving out the trans community intentional?