Interstate 75 South

[@marrisahoffman-ulmer5806]

I love seeing the 1100 miles to Tampa sign just outside of toledo. My friends and I drove that in May it was crazy to think about that sign when we were in florida

[@dhinton1]

the roadside signs with ATLANTA and TAMPA are awesome 😎😂

[@davidneman6527]

My favorite sign of that type: "Sacramento, Ca 3071" following the US 50 bridge west out of Ocean City, MD.

[@DTD110865]

Consequently, I'd love to see some long distance mileage signs on I-75 in Florida to places like Atlanta, Cincinatti, and Detroit.

[@Emjay1306]

Honestly, this was one of the big roads I was waiting for since you covered I-20. If I-75 was this big, I'm gonna be very excited for what I-95 has in store.

[@ControlCityFreak]

Will be cool!

[@adammoldover8769]

As am I! 95, 66 and 70 are probably the 2di I drive most often

[@alexthemtaandr211weatherfa2]

@@ControlCityFreak it’s longest interstate highway

[@DC.402]

@@alexthemtaandr211weatherfa2 I-90 is the longest interstate highway

[@neoskyline2879]

95 is very interesting northbound as you’ll get all of the Big 3 Miami metro cities while southbound is just straight up Miami from Daytona. I think Todd will like it though

[@tylerjung5824]

Watched this just to see if he got the wild signed cities around Bowling Green OH, didn't disappoint!

[@bodl3]

10:58 right after this sign is another with control cities for 285. 285 west includes tampa as one of its control cities on that sign.

[@Jolei33]

It feels like he recorded himself saying Valdosta and then used that voice recording for every time he says Valdosta

[@andrewdiamond2697]

Well, because he had Val-DOOS-ta in the last video.

[@adawg2015]

VAL-DAWSTA

[@icewingthefox9423]

Fuck Valdosta. Go Wolves!

[@geraldnagytenneson]

The way I think it should be Saginaw Flint Detroit Toledo Dayton Cincinnati Lexington Knoxville Chattanooga Atlanta Macon Gainesville Tampa Fort Myers Alligator Alley / Miami Miami Downtown

[@NickCan]

Appreciate the fix on Valdosta! 😅 That whole area South of Macon to Tampa is a pretty boring stretch though! Enjoyed the video!

[@ControlCityFreak]

Thanks!

[@scpatl4now]

@@ControlCityFreak Could be worse...they could be signing Tifton (and they used to do that).

[@j.f.e.productions4098]

Yeah. My mom heard him say Valdosta wrong. I had to tell her that he corrected it

[@thebandit979]

Nah I love the section between Valdosta to Macon I love seeing all the farmland and some of the swamps

[@thesharinganknight]

I'm a native to the A and I hate that they sign Valdosta, like bro just make it to Macon/Tampa 👎🏾

[@ianb9851]

I'm willing to bet Michigan is so reluctant to sign Detroit for most of it's run because it knows almost no one wants to go there! Also glad to see you mentioned those big mileage signs in Ohio! I've driven past those several times and I knew you'd get a kick out of them!

[@DjDillPickle565]

As a Michigander I can attest to that. The roads in Detroit alone are a reason not to stop. Side note, I went to Detroit back in October for a lions game, and yes, it was almost like no one was there.

[@dvferyance]

Flint is worse.

[@mxderate]

Yeah Detroit and Flint suck. It's actually considered the worst region in the US.

[@davidneman6527]

Most of the long-distance traffic heading south from the Mackinac Bridge would not be headed to or through Detroit. Most traffic that does not split off on US 127 towards Lansing would be taking US 23 and rejoining I-75 below Toledo.

[@davidneman6527]

@@mxderate Saginaw is no great shakes anymore, either.

[@theawesomer8587]

Florida's system for numbering state highways is very simple. For 2 digits, north/south are odd numbers, east/west are even numbers and the number increase the further south you go. The major roads that go coast to coast ends in 0. The first number in the 3 digit highways increase the further south you go.

[@ControlCityFreak]

Ah, gorcha

[@haydenmarshall6194]

Tampa is also signed on I-285 at the junction between I-75 South and I-285 northwest of Atlanta, southeast of Marietta.

[@narlex634]

Thanks for fixing the pronunciation of Valdosta, as a Georgian it was driving me crazy last episode

[@SlowedByCinnamxn]

Atlanta and Tampa from a Ohio Mileage Sign? That’s very Cool. You can really see how Far those cities are from Rural OH.

[@ControlCityFreak]

Yeah I like those.

[@M4nw1thnoname9]

I remember when they put those signs up after widening 75 a few years ago through northwest Ohio. All I could think about is if that was my commute, and having the thought of Tampa poking me on my commute home during the cold winter months, it would drive me to move to Florida!

[@jeffreykregel3821]

What was said at 16:42 is pretty neat..... But wait, there is more! At the I-75/US 27 interchange Miami is signed from Northbound US 27, Southbound US 27, Eastbound I-75 AND Westbound I-75. Although for Westbound I-75 it changes to Hialeah at the actual split, but the very first junction sign says "Miami"

[@ControlCityFreak]

Wow that's wild!

[@InkaBall]

I-75 South *Valdosta*

[@arnathan1792]

Georgia is also pretty provincial when they sign Lake Park which is the last city in Georgia after Valdosta

[@kevinjeffrey8449]

The history of the Zilwaukee Bridge in Saginaw is a great note about 1-75

[@ControlCityFreak]

Sounds interesting!

[@tylermarchand2996]

Now for the more dominant fragment of I 75 that I drove on during my 2024 summer road trip. I’m specifically going to give observations for the southbound stretch from I 10 in Lake City to I 4 near Tampa. Right away, there is a lack of symmetry between the northbound (as we’ve seen in more recent videos along or near this route) and southbound directions; all the way up in Lake City, the overhead and mileage control is Tampa, skipping over both Gainesville and Ocala. I’d prefer to see the two intermediate urban areas get some more time in the spotlight, as there’s definitely the real estate to do so, given Florida mileage signs typically only feature a secondary in the form of the State Highway or County Road that the next exit serves. However, there are also some other separate mileage signs that frequently appear on this stretch that I do appreciate, and I suspect you would too. Specifically, they highlight ‘FLTP to Orlando’ and ‘I 275 to St. Petersburg’. I could get on board with this elsewhere across the country. As for once in the immediate Tampa area, the controls are still Naples. I don’t have a problem with Naples in principle (400k metro, last services before a VERY desolate stretch of highway), but not this far north when other urban areas are still to come (950k for North Port/Sarasota, 200k for Punta Gorda, and 840k for Cape Coral/Fort Myers). In short, Naples is signed too early.

[@ControlCityFreak]

Yeah I’d sign Fort Myers in Tampa. Sarasota is too close. That’s also one of my least favorite stretches to drive. Tons of traffic and zero scenery. I’d take 70 in Western Kansas over 75 in Florida any day.

[@ARUSApacecarHAMPTON]

Drove around Atlanta last week on 20 under the runway. I flown thru ATL and never knew about the runway or taxiway over the interstate.

[@ControlCityFreak]

Yeah that’s pretty cool! There’s one at Ohare too

[@BabyBang17datruth]

Yeah they opened it up back in 2006. But it goes over 285. I love Atlanta’s airport!

[@ARUSApacecarHAMPTON]

@@BabyBang17datruth thanks for the correction I was heading to I-20. Atlanta can be confusing.

[@uunderskore]

honestly it makes sense why KYTC would sign Frankfort, Winchester, Richmond, and Georgetown as they all have some significant thing that would draw people to it, Frankfort is the capital, as you mentioned, but Winchester is where the Mountain Parkway begins and is the highway that connects much of far eastern Kentucky to the interstate system, Richmond has Eastern Kentucky University, and Georgetown has a Toyota plant

[@thebandit979]

My favorite part of 75 that I have been on is i75 South down in South Georgia I love seeing all the farmland and swamps

[@GordoFabulous]

My favorite part of I-75 south isn't there anymore. Just beyond Lexington, there used to be an overhead sign saying 'Left Lanes Ends 10 miles". (I might have the distance wrong, but it was a ridiculous length.)

[@grayfan1814]

I 85 going southbound it has a amazing control city it starts of with Atlanta

[@calebharper1590]

In case anyone is wondering for Lake City, Lake City is where I-75 intersects with US 90.

[@norfolksouthernrailfan2006]

It also intersects with I 10.

[@calebharper1590]

@@norfolksouthernrailfan2006 I-75 intercsects I-10 8 miles north of Lake City. Where all the eateries, lodging, etc along with getting to the center of Lake City is where I-75 intersects US 90. I-10 doesn't have much with its Lake City interchanges of US 41 and US 441.

[@norfolksouthernrailfan2006]

@@calebharper1590 That's true, the I 10 exits only have a couple of gas stations and a Burger King, Huddle House and a Days Inn.

[@benjaminchandler7919]

3:07 This highway and I-496 west of it should be part of I-69, rather than 73. 69 east of it should be an even number. I’m not sure which one but I have ideas below

[@benjaminchandler7919]

Possible numbers for 69 east of Lansing: 98, which I would want I-196 to be part of. 96, with 96 east of it being part of 696, except in Detroit, which should be I-875 I-194 I-396

[@VidClips858]

A couple of those Tampa signs in Atlanta used to just say Florida.

[@ControlCityFreak]

Oh cool!

[@andrewdiamond2697]

I'm pretty sure they said Tampa, even in the 1970s, mostly. I do remember one that said Florida near the Atlanta airport though.

[@dhinton1]

considering how long ago 75 was shifted from going through downtown Knoxville ... I'm surprised that the 75 ramps at the 640/275 interchange haven't been rebuilt to accommodate that.

[@samm4980]

Richmond does have a D1 college campus. Maybe that is why it is signed south of Lexington.

[@johncompton88]

What do you think of The Wapakoneta OH exit on I75 at exit 111?

[@Wiscotac]

Valdosta! Pretty much the last chance before having to dodge Florida man.

[@ControlCityFreak]

Lol

[@thomasrinschler6783]

Kentucky has been working to get I-75 up to at least three lanes each way through the entire state for years, and they're just about finished (only a couple of areas near the southern end remain to be done). The difference when you are in TN and most of it being just two lanes, even when you're pretty close to Knoxville, is pretty striking, especially when you're going up Jellico Mountain and the slow trucks are taking up one of the two available lanes (or both, if one decides to pass).

[@ControlCityFreak]

Wouldn’t be too surprised to see 75 3+ lanes in each direction from Saginaw to Naples eventually

[@rogerbear60]

You mention the 3-digit highway numbers in FL. Take a look at a map of KY sometime; they have more 4-digit highway numbers than anywhere I've ever seen. And there doesn't seem to be any kind of order to the system.

[@ControlCityFreak]

I hadn’t really noticed. Probably because I’ve driven I. Florida way way more than I have in Kentucky

[@dvferyance]

Virgina has 4 digit ones too.

[@aaronholcomb237]

Same with Texas FM and RM roads.

[@maroon9273]

I wish I-75 can get extended all the way to Florida City via Florida turnpike.

[@elliswoodall407]

VALDOSTA. LOL. I've rode the whole I-75 through FL to Miami

[@luckyotter623]

I'm enjoying all these videos. I'm wondering when you are going to do US 19 ? (PA to FL)

[@ControlCityFreak]

It’s on the list for sure

[@landonbellamy1287]

Timestamps: Michigan: 0:52 Ohio: 5:37 Kentucky: 8:04 Tennessee: 9:17 Georgia: 10:48 Florida: 13:56

[@ControlCityFreak]

Thanks!

[@mxderate]

For a big road, I'm surprised it only goes through 6 states.

[@DC.402]

@@mxderate yea 6 large states. I live in George and from Atlanta it's 2 hrs to Chattanooga and 4 hrs to lake city

[@scpatl4now]

@@DC.402 I drive to Chattanooga (where I am from) from ATL all the time, and it rarely takes me more than an hour and a half. It is 100 miles from my house in ATL to my parents house in CHA

[@mxderate]

@@DC.402 Yeah and 95 goes through 15 states plus DC.

[@Demondude321]

4:27 Not to be a nerd but you do go into a bit of Flint's city limits by the Bristol Rd interchange to the Bishop Ariport.

[@ControlCityFreak]

Oh missed that when I looked at the map

[@Demondude321]

@@ControlCityFreak Lol yea idk why but I felt like commenting that, and now that I've watched alot of your videos I've gotten obsessed with control cities now even tho I can't drive just yet, and I also think for NB I-75 I think North of Saginaw the control city should be Bay City and then after that Gaylord because Bay City is the last city with 10,000 people until Sault Ste Marie and I think Gaylord should be on there because it has alot of fast food restaurants and alot of people stop there to get food. That's just my opinion tho, I am from MI so maybe I'm a bit biased on that.

[@marcushoustonsr]

75 is our main hwy in Cincinnati always construction lol we got 71 aka the Cincinnati 500 by the way drivers speed on it lol

[@Birdman5504]

Florida's route numbers are usually 2 digits if they go through multiple counties (FL 20, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80 for main east-west roads, and it starts at 20 from the north and goes down further south. Some of the less significant branches particularly in the rural areas (FL 46, 62, 64, 66, 72, 78 for example) go alongside the main FL 20, 40, 50 etc. roads. You'll mostly find the north-south odd-number ones along the panhandle and the east-west even-number ones along the peninsula. Now for more populated areas like near most of the coastlines, you have much more roads and they are numbered 3 digits that correspond to the nearby 2-digit main roads. Example: FL 70 starts at Fort Pierce, so north of there, most of the county and state roads are numbered in the 600s, and 700s south of there until FL 80 in West Palm Beach, where the roads are designated in the 800s. There is no FL 90, so basically the county line into Miami-Dade County is where the 900s start. Of course, throughout the state, there is some overlaps, which is why there are some 800s in Miami, a lone 700 in Fort Lauderdale (Davie Blvd is FL 736), and plenty more. With that said, I have really good memory with numbers so it's easy for me to navigate throughout FL, but for others, they have to rely on the highway names and memory. Some highway names in the video: FL 826 is Palmetto Expressway (though that's not seen from I-75), FL 836 is Dolphin Expressway, FL 924 is Gratigny Parkway, and so on.

[@ControlCityFreak]

Thanks, great info!

[@jimgorycki4013]

Then there is that oddball FL 112 that goes to Miami International airport. The 100s should be in North Florida. US 41 AKA Tamiami Trail is hidden FL 90. Many of the US and Interstates in FL have hidden state road numbers. That's what the State Troopers will annotate if you ever get a ticket or get a breakdown on one of the interstate eg disable vehicle on SR 9 (which is I-95) just south of SR 810.

[@Birdman5504]

@@jimgorycki4013 thats true, FL 112 definitely comes to mind with the oddball/outlier route numbers. Plus the hidden ones like US 1 is FL 5, main Turnpike is FL 91, Turnpike Homestead extension is FL 821, etc.

[@jeremyanderson1139]

Florida typically puts its three digit State Highways into zones, with the lower digits in the Panhandle and in the Jacksonville area, and the higher digit numbers further South, with the highest digits in the Miami area. Most toll roads in Florida are three digit state highways as well

[@ControlCityFreak]

Yeah it’s probably the toll roads that throw me off. They just keep adding new ones

[@nathananderson3922]

Yes, FL-826 was derived from it's starting point being between State Route 80 and hidden State Route 90 (US 41, Tamiami Trail) on the grid. The final digit determines N-S and E-W like usual. 826 was probably considered an E-W road originally, stretching from US 441 to US 27 before being extended south along the Palmetto.

[@dvferyance]

I am hoping that little stub that will lead to the 401 becomes an extension of I-96. Then it would be duplexed with 75 and you could have Toledo and Toronto on the same sign pretty cool.

[@ControlCityFreak]

That would be cool!

[@26sniff]

How can you do a travel log of I75 and not reference Big Beaver Road in Troy MI. Exit 69. Edit time

[@ControlCityFreak]

I hang my head in shame

[@logandetwiler4483]

When you do I-76. There are two of them. The one on the eastern end has it end at Lodi near the pilot and TA Truckstops

[@seancallahan5612]

I’m excited for Todd’s freakout about limon either next week or in 2 weeks

[@shsav2012]

Wonder what 76 will come first next week. The more well-known part in the eastern US which includes the Pennsylvania Turnpike or the lesser known part that goes from western Nebraska to Denver.

[@ControlCityFreak]

Equally well known to me!

[@davidneman6527]

For a real challenge, try navigating 76 westbound through the construction in Akron.

[@brianu451]

Awesome content man. I’m in high school and I can’t wait to get my own car so I can road trip around the U.S. Love watching your videos to see the wide variety of scenery and routes in our vast interstate system.

[@ControlCityFreak]

Thanks!

[@j.f.e.productions4098]

Cool video! 75 is a great road. Can't wait for I 85, my home interstate in South Carolina.

[@ControlCityFreak]

85 will be cool!

[@TimEssDub]

Your series gives a case for double signing control cities. Now I look forward to 80 and 95.

[@ControlCityFreak]

I do too!

[@tysonstransitcam2190]

80 in Pennsylvania though…

[@ControlCityFreak]

@@tysonstransitcam2190 It’s brutal

[@neoskyline2879]

I’ve been waiting for this video! A lot of the Miami toll roads are operated by a private company MDX and not FDOT and they really don’t sign any control cities. Just “to X Highway” or the airport.

[@EdwardRingwald]

MDX actually is the Miami-Dade Expressway Authority which is a state government independent agency. The Florida DOT operates its own toll roads as Florida’s Turnpike Enterprise.

[@ControlCityFreak]

Great info!

[@neoskyline2879]

@@EdwardRingwald Didn't know MDX was part of the state government. Thought it was just part of the county government. Good to know though.

[@SlowedByCinnamxn]

I have no Problem of MDOT Signing the Mackinac Bridge as a Control city for either both Nᴏʀᴛʜ and Sᴏᴜᴛʜ bound.

[@derekcabanaw1789]

To be honest, there really isn't much of a choice going from Sault Ste. Marie until you get to the Saginaw/Bay City/Midland area. Actually surprised that St. Ignace was signed as a control city.

[@ControlCityFreak]

I was too

[@garybrewer1810]

Well, St. Ignace is a big tourist destination, as well as the eastern terminus of U.S.Highway 2. So it makes sense as a southbound control point on I-75.

[@ControlCityFreak]

@@garybrewer1810 Yeah but 2 is a diagonal at that point going the wrong way, nobody is going to drive down to St. Ignace to get it.

[@garybrewer1810]

@@ControlCityFreak but the most direct access to US-2 from I-75 is at St. Ignace (unless you want to drive along several back roads that may or not be paved).

[@landonbellamy1287]

Plus, one more thing to add: I think there should be two control cities between Valdosta and the Florida Turnpike: They should be Tampa and Orlando. I think this is because Orlando gets a lot of traffic going South on I-75 mainly because it's a popular tourist destination and is as big as Tampa. The Turnpike does connect I-75 to Orlando, so it would make sense for Orlando to be another control city in that segment.

[@ControlCityFreak]

Good point.

[@scpatl4now]

As I recall, there used to be mileage signs on 75 as you got close to the turnpike that signed Orlando. That might or might not still be the case.

[@DMAN_2314]

I agree in fact I would sign Orlando/Tampa on 75 as early as Macon if not maybe even Atlanta which it can be done unlike 95 because there's Savannah and Jacksonville before you get to I-4 and those 2 are bigger cities and there's a number of different ways you could go about it with 95 I'll talk about once we get to the 95 video.

[@Garrettb214]

@@scpatl4now I was just on it a few days ago heading South and Orlando is mentioned via the Turnpike near Gainesville but that is about it. FDOT has an obsession with signing I-275 for St. Pete on the mileage signs near the GA line. I'm not sure why that is so important to them over Orlando.

[@Garrettb214]

Yes, I'd argue even from Atlanta that Orlando/Tampa be signed. I'd let Macon slide but definitely Orlando/Tampa after Macon. There is arguably more traffic headed for Orlando than Tampa and like you said, they are a similar size.

[@CycloneSakura]

I think Lexington/Louisville is a good pick for the 71/75 concurrency in Northern Kentucky headed southbound since 71 goes straight for Louisville (Plus thats the southern terminus of I-71)

[@ControlCityFreak]

I agree

[@RealHeyMark]

Atlanta at rush hour isn't as bad as just after rush hour when the traffic is going 80 mph and no one will let you change lanes.

[@the937chef]

I think a top 10 worst pull through/control cities of all time would be fun. Some of my dishonorable mentions.. Lake City, Florida on I 75 Limon, Colorado on I 70 Joliet Illinois on I 80 Santa Rosa, New Mexico on I 40 Breezewood,, Pennsylvania on I 70

[@ControlCityFreak]

That would be fun! Not sure if Joliet would qualify, I don’t think it’s on any mainline pull throughs, just interchanges

[@mxderate]

Lyman, Wyoming on I-80

[@jakem6720]

I have to deal with the Valdosta shit every time I drive down to Florida 😂😂

[@DOMICH59]

It's the Valdosta and Ocala fixes for me 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ControlCityFreak]

Lol

[@calebharper1590]

I'm a Georgian. I think why Valdosta is assigned on I-75 mainly because it's a huge stopping ground, Valdosta State University, but also just south of Valdosta is the Wild Adventures theme park. I know a lot of people including myself from Georgia and Florida or regular I-75 travelers from the north visit that theme park a lot. I think Lake City is just there for I-10 being the big junction of people going south from I-10. I prefer I-75 and I-10 to Jacksonville so I think that's why Lake City is there.

[@mattl6948]

What? Nothing to say about our weird double-shielded I-275 sign south of Cincinnati?

[@ControlCityFreak]

Can’t get em all but I can try!

[@MrShortWhiteGuy]

Florida has an interesting state highway system. It's similar to the U.S. Highway system. 1 is the same as A1A (renamed not to get confused with U.S.1), 3 is a N-S route in Cape Canaveral. 5 is U.S. 1, 7 is U.S. 441 between WPB and Miami. 9 is I-95 and they progress west. 2 runs E-W near the Georgia border, 8 is I-10, 10 is U.S. 90 (why they didn't make 10 to be I-10 is beyond me) and they progress south. 90 is U.S. 41 from Miami to Naples. 95 is U.S. 29 from Pensacola to Alabama line. Many are unsigned when conjoined with U.S. or Interstate Highways. Most 3 digit highways are short local highways with exceptions.

[@ControlCityFreak]

Seems like a lot of the freeways are 3 digit. I know a lot of states have secret routes on other highways, but it’s a shame Florida burns so many of the best numbers on hidden concurrencies

[@aaronholcomb237]

Florida 30 is concurrent with US 98 in most of the Panhandle and you do occasionally see a sign for what they call SR 30 in that area. I know that Front Beach Road in Panama City Beach was signed as a state highway but it used to be US 98A.

[@winter2024-k9w]

Control City Freak? Can you do the Interstate 77 North On July 21?

[@mxderate]

There are 2 parts on 76.

[@adammoldover8769]

@@mxderate while western 76 is short and boring, I'm guessing that's still its own video. Eastern 76 is much more interesting control city wise

[@ControlCityFreak]

Yep

[@mxderate]

@@adammoldover8769 It should be interesting control city wise tho.

[@winter2024-k9w]

Do Interstate 76 on July 14

[@markwilson4078]

This used to be my home interstate until I moved out of Florida in 09, so going southbound on 75 until you get just a few miles south of Tampa always felt like coming home even to this day, and going northbound always felt like the beginning of an adventure. So yeah, I wouldn’t agree with I-75 being boring in Florida, but that’s just me. Still, it was to see this road again. Now I await eastern I-84 with great interest as since I have moved out of Florida, 84 is now my home interstate.

[@ControlCityFreak]

Will be cool!

[@danielmerklin5082]

What is up with valdosta ocala being fixed? Dude you made a meme. Lol

[@ControlCityFreak]

Lol

[@chrisgeorge74]

We finally get to my state next week, New Jersey, and then a few more weeks after that too. I76, 78, 80, 95

[@shsav2012]

I always forget about the part of 76 that goes into New Jersey.

[@futurepilotsebyt1635]

Indeed, it will be so good to see New Jersey, I wish NJ was on I-87 but it barely misses it by less than a mile

[@futurepilotsebyt1635]

We have 287 but not as good as 87 lol

[@chrisgeorge74]

@@shsav2012 tbh, I didn't even know it went into jersey, I live in north jersey and never go down that way, just noticed after looking at maps

[@chrisgeorge74]

@@futurepilotsebyt1635 84 also misses NJ by like a few feet up near port jervis

[@mikeshumaker]

I can see your argument not having Saginaw and Flint, Michigan, as control cities on signs, since both cities are shells of what they once were; both cities have less than half their population today as they did in 1960. So I can see putting Detroit as a primary city on mileage signs, and, maybe someday, at entrance ramps from the Mackinac Bridge southbound instead of those two.

[@truckercowboyed2638]

I feel like us23 should be changed to an interstate,maybe a spur since It splits from i75 then leads directly into a major city like Ann Arbor, maybe it could be i375 or something.....

[@TeamRAR]

Maybe instead of Saginaw they could sign the tri city area. The Saginaw, Midland, Bay City CSA has a population of nearly 400k, making it the 5th largest CSA in Michigan behind Detroit, Grand Rapids, Lansing (not technically a CSA), and Kalamazoo. Flint is included in Detroit's CSA but Flint is also the 4th largest MSA in the state with a population also around 400k, so I think it's fine as a control city.

[@ControlCityFreak]

I’m fine with Saginaw. I’ve never heard of tri-cities personally (at least not the ones in Michigan) so that’s probably a more regional designation. Feel like Saginaw has way more name recognition, maybe from the Simon and Garfunkel song.

[@DMAN_2314]

I'd be good with it going north. It does make for a good secondary going south although going south it should absolutely be Detroit.

[@apluto12-z3e]

If you take I-75 till the end , the sign is telling you to take 826 south to Miami, as North to Turnpike or I-95 is out of the way at this point. So I don't understand your comment at this point video saying, " it's not telling us which way to get to Miami.."

[@ControlCityFreak]

There's signs to Miami International Airport, but I scoured it pretty carefully and didn't see any overhead signs pointing to Miami proper. It's possible I missed one.

[@marcusamspaugh1504]

SR 795 is going to Perrysburg, not the turnpike

[@pichugaming317]

“75 meets 23” also 23: on the highway before the exit

[@lovearw]

Florida toll road 417 is the Orlando bypass

[@tomsmith5584]

How Florida numbers its highway numbers. The one and two digit numbers follow the same pattern as US highways (in fact, all US and Interstate highways in Florida have a state highway number in this pattern, but it's only used on state documents such as work orders and construction contracts). As for three digit state highway numbers, the first digit increases from north to south with the second and third digits grouped together. The exceptions are for three digit highway numbers ending in "00", which are diagonals, and Highway A1A, which was given that number so as not to confuse it with US 1. Florida also used to color their US highway number signs so that you would follow the same color signs as you went through the state (e.g. the shields on US 1 and US 29 signs were colored red while US 98 shields were colored black, IIRC). No two routes with the same color ever intersected. USDOT wasn't thrilled with this, so they threatened to pull all highway funds from the state if FDOT didn't change to the same colors as outlined in the MUTCD. FDOT cried uncle and removed the colored shields by 2000 or so.

[@ControlCityFreak]

Great info, thanks!

[@aaronholcomb237]

I know that Florida discontinued this as of 1999 when I went there with my brother, but a part of me misses the colorful US highway signs.

[@judit4770]

I think Macon should be a control city because it has 160K+ people

[@Gatorsfan601]

Macon is only that large because of a consolidation with Bibb County. Before consolidation, it was less than 100k. I think it’s fine to sign it from Atlanta, but maybe as a secondary control city northbound.

[@mikeshumaker]

8:36 I don't know as much about Kentucky and W. Virginia as some people, but even I know they should sign I-64 east for Charleston, West Virginia, since it is not only WV's state capital, but it's largest city. Not Ashland. Maybe put Huntington along with Charleston if they must, since they are neck and neck in population for largest city in WV, but at least have it be Charleston.

[@wvusmc]

Ashland is in Kentucky, not West Virginia and it's the closest city from the exit.

[@ControlCityFreak]

If agree with Huntington there

[@scottcampbell2707]

On those signs near the start, perhaps instead of "St. Ignace", they could have put "Everywhere". Or maybe "Everywhere Important".

[@ControlCityFreak]

lol

[@catholicactionbibleonlyist1813]

if you going to do three-digit interstates please do the Long Island expressway (i-495)

[@ControlCityFreak]

Probably will do that one

[@mxderate]

Yeah I think he will do both the beltway 495 and the LIE 495.

[@liberal424242]

Did someone comment on the Valdosta pronunciation on the NB video? I'm assuming so... Made me laugh every time throughout this video. I think it's uh-latch-ew-a, at least as far as I know, but I'm not from that part of FL. Tis a super small place and the name of the county Gainesville is in. Looking forward to 95

[@ControlCityFreak]

Yeah lots of people lol

[@Tested333]

I'm ready for I-95 soon!

[@kewejuankenobie]

It will definitely be a long video due to 15 states to travel through and a bunch of cities.

[@ControlCityFreak]

Will be awesome! But not exactly soon

[@newflyer2198]

I-95 def going to be the unprecedented 45 minute vid just on the NB side alone

[@ControlCityFreak]

@@newflyer2198 Probably gonna be at least 3 parts. I don't think my computer can handle 45 minutes lol

[@newflyer2198]

@@ControlCityFreak totally agree but you got to admit, I-95 is HUGE.

[@donkensler]

Re the U.S.-Canadian border, weed is legal in Michigan, but the border is under federal control, and of course weed is prohibited under federal law, so no bringee weedee from Canada. The weird thing is it's also illegal to bring weed into Canada, despite it being completely legal at the federal and provincial levels there.

[@lovearw]

You should do a series on floridas toll road aka the intrastates of florida

[@ControlCityFreak]

Maybe an episode looking at them

[@kneemeister]

Just a slight issue, in Michigan state highways are referred as M-10, M-99 etc. never Michigan 10 or State Route 10 or Highway 10. Heck the sign has an M just like a US highway has US. Take it from the people that make all businesses possessive, as in Kroger's not Kroger to also say our highways designation with the number. 😉 I happen to live exactly half way between US-127 and M-99 both of which from Lansing, end up in Bryan Ohio; where I work, via State Route 15 (M-99 becomes SR15 and US-127 run concurrent with it on Main Street)

[@ControlCityFreak]

Thanks!

[@SickQueen]

475 west is lead to sylvania and also connect to 23 witch go's north Another thing is the I 75 exit 195 A and B. Exit 195 A is lead to Ohio 795. Exit 195 B lead to the Ohio Turnpike

[@CSXEK]

I’m following I-90 rn and It does have a huge control city problem

[@ControlCityFreak]

It does, I've been on the whole western half.

[@spellcast1391]

Illinois side is great of I-90. No bad control cities

[@spellcast1391]

I was on the Wisconsin part and it’s solid.

[@mxderate]

@@spellcast1391 Well, except the interchanges.

[@mxderate]

It's good in Washington, Montana, South Dakota, Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, surprisingly PA, New York, and MA. Although it sucks in the rest.

[@marcusamspaugh1504]

The 1st city they should sign southbound is ... St Ignace, then Saginaw, then Flint

[@jtn2002]

Gator graduate here, a Gainesville sign would be nice along with the proper WILDWOOD for the FL Turnpike. You TOTALLY missed out on the I-75 EAST signs in Alligator Alley; though if you hit those in the North video I'll let it pass. :)

[@ControlCityFreak]

Oh I did miss those!

[@BishopsKnight_FL]

Being a Michigander, MDOT signs St Ignace, because the Yoopers are particular about anything south of the bridge, so far as calling anyone from the mitten a troll

[@Theworstnoobever]

I just had a question Todd. Do you plan to make an I-85 or I-95 video? Those are major interstates and they go through multiple major cities.

[@ControlCityFreak]

I do

[@miked31784]

South of Macon, it should be signed for Tampa/Tallahassee/Jacksonville.

[@ControlCityFreak]

I could see Tampa/Jax. Tallahassee is way smaller and an indirect route, going all the way to Lake City is way out of the way.

[@gonytroncoso1482]

They should have added Miami at the start of I-75

[@J53119]

I hope I-99 is not your last one. Your channel deserves better. lol

[@ControlCityFreak]

I’ll do some 3 digit roads, international roads, and US highways

[@mxderate]

@@ControlCityFreak Hawaii's Interstates?

[@ControlCityFreak]

@@mxderate yep

[@ChasetheG]

FDOT should put either Fort Myers or Cape Coral on the sign.

[@ControlCityFreak]

Agreed

[@EdwardRingwald]

Fort Myers and Cape Coral can be on the second line of a three destination sign. Both cities do not qualify as control cities as they do not meet the AASHTO criteria.

[@mxderate]

@@EdwardRingwald AASHTO sucks at control cities.

[@8.4V10]

Alachua is also the County that Gainesville is in

[@Wish667]

This road in Ohio and Kentucky is my favorite. Can’t wait for I-76! Also which 76 is 1st?

[@alexthemtaandr211weatherfa2]

I’m thinking about the west one from just west of Oglala Nebraska to southwest of Denver

[@Wish667]

@@alexthemtaandr211weatherfa2 That’s the one I would say but I have a feeling the one in the mid-Atlantic would be 1st

[@mikeshumaker]

I hope it's the one from Denver to I-80 at Exit 102 in Nebraska.

[@admirals818]

I just have the urge to go to Valdosta, for some reason.

[@ControlCityFreak]

lol

[@jordanjones5751]

I agree with your list Todd but coming out of Valdosta on southbound I’d sign Jacksonville/Tampa until you get to the I-10 junction, then from the I-10 junction I’d sign Tampa/Orlando until you get to where Florida’s Turnpike splits off, then I’d just sign it just like you do for everything else on I-75 southbound

[@ControlCityFreak]

Good idea

[@jordanjones5751]

@@ControlCityFreak because Tampa is so far away from the Georgia border

[@brucebaron1212]

Random question having nothing to do with I-75: when are you going to do the Hawaiian routes?

[@ControlCityFreak]

After 99

[@wilijamesme]

I can’t wait unit he do I-85, I-80, I-90 & I-95. I got a feeling Todd is gonna dogged out I-77 & I-81 through the mountain part though. 😂😂

[@ControlCityFreak]

The mountain parts look pretty awesome

[@matthewboes5132]

The I 64 sign is for Ashland Kentucky.

[@ControlCityFreak]

I know

[@mxderate]

Should be Huntington.

[@truckercowboyed2638]

Always fascinated me how i75 south actually ends up going east to Miami just because it's concurrent with us93 east......I feel like this should be like interstate 2 or something since it's below interstate 4

[@ControlCityFreak]

True but I think sending 75 east makes more sense than ending it in Naples at an eastern I-2

[@atworkstation]

Solution for 75 coming out of Canada. Sign both Saginaw and Detroit from the start instead of St. Ignance. Problem solved.

[@EdwardRingwald]

Great video by the way! Here is how the control cities on southbound Interstate 75 should be arranged from Michigan to Florida using the AASHTO guidelines for control cities: Flint (Interstate 69) Detroit (Interstates 94 and 96) Toledo (Interstates 80/90) Dayton (Interstate 70) Cincinnati (Interstates 71 and 74) Lexington (Interstate 64) Knoxville (Interstate 40) Chattanooga (Interstate 24) Atlanta (Interstates 20 and 85; also the Georgia state capital) Macon (Interstate 16) Lake City (Interstate 10) Tampa (Interstate 4) Miami (southern terminus) Regarding the mileages to Atlanta and Tampa from south of Toledo, I think the Ohio DOT erected this supplemental guide signage as a benefit for those coming from Canada for the winter. It is an assurance that one is on the right highway for Tampa and for Florida. Likewise, in Florida there is mileage for Interstate 275 south (Exit 274), the throughpass route through Tampa and St. Petersburg, listed on supplemental guide signage on the second line of a three line guide sign. As for places such as Valdosta and Naples, these cities were listed as at one point these cities served as temporary ends of Interstate 75 during construction. Now that Interstate 75 is a continuous highway between Miami and Sault Ste. Marie (FL 826 and Easterday Avenue West to be exact) these non-conforming control cities should be revised. Regarding Florida’s three digit state routes especially in South Florida, there is no parent route these state routes connect to. Instead, the first digit corresponds with a state route band; for example, FL 826 being an east-west route even though it goes north-south as part of the Palmetto Expressway belongs in an east-west band south of FL 80. Same thing with FL 687, which is 4th Street North in St. Petersburg: It is in an east-west band south of FL 60 even though FL 687 is a north-south highway. I look forward to seeing your Interstate 275 control city video for the Tampa/St. Petersburg area as soon as it comes out. If you would like to know more about Interstate 275 in the Tampa Bay region check out my site of all things Interstate 275 in the Tampa Bay region at Interstate275Florida.com!

[@ControlCityFreak]

Thanks, great info! Will check it out when I do 275

[@mxderate]

NO LAKE CITYYYY

[@truckercowboyed2638]

You forgot Key cities like Ocala, Florida and I'd even put Gainesville/Tampa..... Gainesville is a major College town

[@truckercowboyed2638]

Also Fort Myers/Miami

[@mxderate]

@Trucker Cowboy Ed Gainesville is fine alone going NB, but SB I do agree with signing it with Tampa because Tampa is a huge metro area.

[@Joeljdwatts]

Thank you for promoting Fort Myers. Naples has always bugged me too. As for the stretch between Atlanta and Tampa…it’s long and boring. You need every control city you can get to at least feel like you’re making progress to get to the beach! I’d do Atlanta, Macon, Valdosta, Lake City, Gainesville, Ocala, Tampa, Sarasota, Fort Myers, Naples, Miami. Florida is massive and flat. It deserves the control cities. 🤣

[@ControlCityFreak]

I feel like Florida never gets enough credit for being as boring to drive through as it is. I’d take western Kansas over 75 or 10 in Florida any day.

[@kosjeyr]

Macon is a control city because it's a college town like Lafayette, Indiana along I65,

[@dvferyance]

Lafayette is never used as a control city for I-65.

[@ControlCityFreak]

There are tons of major college cities that never make it to the pull through signs or the bottom line. My hometown (Lawrence, KS) is one, and I’m fine with it - signing KC and Topeka makes more sense.

[@spellcast1391]

@@dvferyance I know. I’m suprised it’s not even a secondary

[@mxderate]

@@spellcast1391 It is after Brownsburg.

[@dvferyance]

@@mxderate Brownsburg is on I-74.