Interstate 82

Interstate 82 is often north-south and is out of grid, but it's an important part on many paths to Seattle. It's passes through some gorgeous scenery too! Control City Freak is updated weekly and covers every two digit Interstate Highway in America. I'll be showing control city signs on each 1 and 2 digit (2di) Interstate Highway in the continental United States and will strive to make as complete a record as possible. I'll also be getting into the roadgeek weeds here and there, showing downtown skylines and state border crossings, and making corny jokes. I welcome all to join my geeky tour of every primary Interstate in the country!
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[@docthediesel7781]

OK, so until I found this channel, I thought I was one of a very small amount of folks who looked for the change in control cities everywhere I visit … and silently protested when I thought a different city would be better. When we moved to Birmingham when I was a teen, I always wondered why I-59 was signed for Gadsden rather than Chattanooga.

[@ControlCityFreak]

Welcome aboard!

[@thesharinganknight9859]

I said that same when in Atlanta it’s Macon Tampa on 285 and past Macon it’s Valdosta. Even though Tampa is 450+ miles away they should still sign 75 south Macon Tampa the whole way

[@mattluse5037]

I'm pretty sure Gadsen was originally chosen because it was a center for industry and shipping and they expected it to get bigger. Clearly that didn't happen and I completely agree chattanooga should be the control city today

[@ryanh603]

We used to have Seattle on our mileage signs through Yakima. It used to read Seattle 142 before it was replaced with Wenatchee 105. I strongly agree with you that Seattle and Boise should be getting all the attention.

[@aaronporter0776]

Maybe also on the part where 97 is also signed with 82 & 90 West, throw in the city of Wenatchee as well, since that's one of the major towns that US 97 goes through.

[@mxderate]

Wow it’s been a long time since we were in this region. We haven’t been in WA nor Oregon since I-5!

[@MrTwarner]

Whelp, I actually had no idea that this road existed. This is the first time this has happened (and probably the only time it will). I guess that's what I get for spending my whole life living east of the Mississippi river lol

[@ControlCityFreak]

Yeah it's tucked in that corner pretty well

[@SlowedByMaple]

Wow! It’s been a year since we’ve been on Oregon and Washington!! We’ll be going through Oregon more in a couple of Interstates later.

[@mxderate]

And then that will be the last time.

[@winterbonnie_8]

So I'm from the Tri-Cities area, and found your channel recently and have to agree with the way it should be for the control cities along the I-82/182 corridor. Honestly didn't even know what a control city was until I found your channel, but it's now opened my eyes to how weird some of the control cities on Interstate signs are, particularly Limon in Colorado. Keep up the good work, Todd, hope all goes well for you :)

[@ControlCityFreak]

Thanks!

[@CrystalClearWith8BE]

It looks like we're back in the Pacific Northwest with a different interstate since I-5 (OR and WA) and I-15 (ID) However, we're back in Oregon and Washington State this time. We'll be back in the PNW as we talk about I-84 Western and I-90 later on.

[@highway2heaven91]

I-84 will be an interesting video for sure

[@appalachianenthusiast9499]

"Starts with B, ends with E, and in the middle is ois." Couldn't have said it better myself!

[@ControlCityFreak]

lol

[@mxderate]

I think he means Limon

[@appalachianenthusiast9499]

@@mxderate 🤣

[@Nemofishman]

@@appalachianenthusiast9499 We don't talk about Limon on this channel.

[@appalachianenthusiast9499]

@@Nemofishman But it has the Hipstir Wagon Food Truck...

[@DjDillPickle565]

I don’t know why, but the landscape of this interstate surprised me. When I think of Washington and Oregon, this… isn’t it for some reason. Great video Todd! Keep them coming!

[@ControlCityFreak]

Thanks!

[@highway2heaven91]

Central portions of Washington and Oregon are basically a semi-arid valley while the Eastern portion of Washington and the western portions of Oregon are made up of the Stereotypical PNW forests.

[@S_Over_Street]

Oregon does their control cities a little weird, sorta similar to Colorado. If I-11 did ever expand north past Reno NV & upward along US-395 though eastern OR, I could see it take over I-82. But that’s a pipe dream.

[@bootmii98]

It'd also take over 580 which is a plus because isn't Reno a little too close to California and doesn't the freeway section of 395 extend all the way past the state line

[@mxderate]

Oregon is much like Maryland. They do stuff pretty well when they don’t have any in-state cities left to sign.

[@TheSharkKing45]

I think 82 , if expanded, could work as a NW- SE route as a quick way to get to Seattle from Omaha (as absurd as it sounds, but, it would cut the time off of 29N and 90W from Sioux Falls. )

[@alexthemtaandr211weatherfa2]

Omaha Nebraska does not need a new interstate and the existing infrastructure can be improved

[@alexjones3511]

The bad news is that we gotta go back to Pennsylvania AGAIN for I-83 and I-84 Eastern! Though the good news is that once you do I-84’s two segments we’ll not only get to see Idaho and Portland again, but on I-84 Eastern we’ll be going into New England for the first time ever! I can’t wait for 84 Eastern as we’ll be going to Massachusetts to meet the Mass Pike which is the road I used to take with my family to Boston to see friends.

[@ControlCityFreak]

Excited for both!

[@dvferyance]

And the more bad news is we end doing the interstates with Pennsylvania.

[@mxderate]

@@dvferyance Actually we end in Hawaii

[@eljefecom]

I also think Todd should cover the Hawaii interstates after I-99

[@mxderate]

@@eljefecom he will

[@truckercowboyed2638]

I think it'd be cool the first i90 sign on I82 said west to Seattle and East to Boston since Boston is the terminal control city of i90 east...

[@ControlCityFreak]

Maybe at I-5

[@brucetelfeyan]

I really like that you included views of I-182.

[@ControlCityFreak]

Yeah it seemed like the thing to do, not gonna be in Tri-Cities again and it’s too short to be its own vid.

[@brucetelfeyan]

@@ControlCityFreak I should have added that Oregon (much less Washington save for the Seattle area) is one of four states I've not been to, so this video was most informative for me.

[@ControlCityFreak]

@@brucetelfeyan I lived in Tacoma for a year in the mid 90s so was on all the regional roads some then, but haven’t made it back to the PNW since 2002.

[@seannewberry7941]

82 is a good connector road. Especially if you want to avoid Portland (which I do much as I can). It has a few gnarly hills between 84&90. I’ve seen a few trucks burn the brakes up coming into Selah off the hills. US 730 is a good road if you have to go west on 84 though. You should’ve mentioned the Army Depot at Umatilla. Seattle and (cough) Boise should be control cities.

[@dhinton1]

I do agree that Seattle should be the primary control city for 82W (and should be signed on 84W at that interchange) .... and Boise should be the primary control city for 82E (and should be signed on 90E at that interchange).

[@cds1848]

Added bonus...I-82 is really fun to drive. Rarely congested! Zoom! Zoom!

[@mxderate]

@@dhinton1 EB I think it is okay to sign Yakima and Kennewick but WB it should be Seattle all the way.

[@TomMaster]

How did I just find out that I-82 is off the Interstate grid.

[@ivanoffw]

I am guessing that the reason 82 is signed for Richland is because that is where 182 splits off for Pasco and parts east. 82 does not actually go through Kennewick but on the edge as the city just annexed the land even though there is almost nothing against 82. The "high desert" you refer to are the scablands created by the numerous floods from glacial lake Missoula and the basalt floods from the Yellowstone hotspot. I am looking forward to you skewering ODOT when you talk about 84, they love to sign for in State locations just like the worst DOT's.

[@benjaminchandler7919]

I don’t disagree with signing Seattle the whole way westbound but it also needs Kennewick and Yakima as secondaries. Kennewick is especially necessary from eastbound 84

[@Linpaul173]

I-82 should probably be just a 3 digit route of I-84 or I-90. And then they can renumber the I-84 in the east coast as I-82(Connecticut, PA, NY, Massachusetts)

[@armandoperez7967]

Interstate 82 is diagonal and could have been Interstate 9. Then eastern Interstate 84 could be signed as Interstate 82.

[@TimEssDub]

I-84 used to be I-80N. People do not want to give up their old route numbers. :(

[@highlandplayz1267]

it has an interstate minor tho

[@crazy_lol3111]

@@armandoperez7967 I think I-82 should become I-11 and then they connect the portions and make I-11 a big interstate

[@Linpaul173]

@@crazy_lol3111 I agree I think they are going to eventually plan I-11 to reach all the way to Canada

[@pharmesq]

So much excitement for Pennsylvania! You know what the Keystone State really needs? A city named after a famous city in Ukraine which they just took back from Russia, and made me think of you. Lyman, of course! Or Limon. Whichever :D

[@ControlCityFreak]

Lol

[@yellowcar423]

Nice work at this nice road!

[@ControlCityFreak]

Thanks!

[@jordanjones5751]

Here’s Speedboy14’s the way it should be for I-82 East bound: Yakima, Kennewick, Boise/Portland West bound: Seattle

[@truckercowboyed2638]

Can't wait till you cover the dual i84s , one in Oregon and one through pa, NY, CT, and Mass

[@ControlCityFreak]

Gonna be cool!

[@alexthemtaandr211weatherfa2]

@@ControlCityFreak there’s two i88

[@tylermarchand2996]

Oh, and I can name quite a few metros smaller than Yakima (250k) that have Costcos. Off the top of my head, there’s Medford (230k); Bend (205k); Coeur d’Alene (180k); Twin Falls (115k); Roseburg (110k); Kalispell (110k); and even Carson City (55k). Even places further east with similar metro populations like Fargo and Kalamazoo have their own Costco warehouses…

[@elli6220]

Also makes sense that Washington would have more Costcos in small markers compared to other states

[@cparkes92]

Traverse City, MI (metro population sub-100k) has a Costco. In fact, Traverse City might be the smallest market to have both Costco and Sam's Club

[@ryanh603]

East Wenatchee has a Costco serving Chelan, Douglas, and Grant Counties.

[@tylermarchand2996]

cparkes92 Traverse City includes Benzie, Kalkaska and Leelanau Counties on top of Grand Traverse (which is what you’re referring to), so it’s closer to 150k. But it’s still smaller, plus it is actually a micro area…

[@tylermarchand2996]

ryanh603 Wenatchee (Chelan and Douglas) is half the size of Yakima, so that’s a good one.

[@iboKirby]

Despite this being a fairly short road and having driven on both ends, I have never driven the whole thing. Just between the Tri-Cities and I-84 and Yakima and I-90. 1:56 My parents live in Bend, Oregon again (I lived there as a child) and after moving to places right on the interstate, I have always wondered why Bend does not have an interstate close by. Probably cause it has only really grown fairly recently. I could see someday Highway 97 getting upgraded to an Interstate.

[@briancatanzaro6053]

I thought that I-82 might be boring, but you made it quite interesting. (e.g., Blockbuster comment). This area feels like a place where a "Cowboy Western" movie could be filmed.

[@ControlCityFreak]

Thanks!

[@cds1848]

The Palm Springs of Washington...LOL...never understood that one! :)

[@highway2heaven91]

I think because it’s supposed to be a large desert oasis like Palm Springs is.

[@mxderate]

I mean it does kind of remind me of Palm Springs, CA.

[@cds1848]

If you've been to both Yakima and the "real" Palm Springs...you'd really struggle to find any similarities. 😄

[@mxderate]

@@cds1848 True.

[@miked31784]

I agree with you for westbound to have Seattle.

[@ReallyBadDriving]

I've never been on I-82 but I do have some I-82 knowledge. There was supposed to be an I-82 in New England connecting Hartford to Providence. And then they changed their minds and planned to reroute I-84 east to Providence while the part of the current I-84 east of Hartford was called I-86 for awhile (this was before the current I-86 was being built in NY). They never completed this highway because of money and enviromental reasons. They eventually dropped the I-86 and re-routed I-84 back to its original route. The only sections of I-84 ever built built between Hartford and Providence is a small section of US 6 around Willimantic and I-384 in Manchester. Funny enough, the control city for I-384 coming off of I-84 is Providence but it not the best or fastest way to get from Hartford to Providence.

[@ControlCityFreak]

Great info, thanks!

[@danielyoung3426]

There are a couple reasons Seattle probably isn't on a lot of signs on I-82. The first reason is Seattle is on the other side of the mountains. Politics (Republican vs Democrat) and climate (dry vs wet) change dramatically at the summit of the Cascade Mountains. Then there's the belief of a lot of people in Eastern Washington that Seattle is on the coast of the Pacific Ocean even though it's over 100 miles away.

[@CSXEK]

When I was following 82 when I seen Pendleton for 84 I was like ew and idhao is horrible but that misery ends in Utah

[@mxderate]

Idaho does okay. They at least sign SLC.

[@user-gc2op6mc7y]

My interstate hero 🦸 I - 82 East: Yakima Any TRI- CITY ( Richland, Pasco, or Kennewick) Boise/ Portland ( or angle wise Boise ) West: …….. SEATTLE!!!!!!

[@knowbody6327]

I think I-82 should be I-7 or I-9 because it's more of a north/south route more than a east/west route

[@jimcoddington4100]

Hi Todd! Amazing video as always! Thanks for the awesome videos!

[@ControlCityFreak]

Hey, thanks!

[@jimcoddington4100]

@@ControlCityFreak Because your my favorite KZbinr ever Todd! I will never forget you!

[@GSU_Panther_Nation]

I-83 in PA, again there's that feeling of really bad control cities

[@paulbrower4265]

Weird route -- really should be signed "Southeast" and "Northwest", like US 250 in Ohio. When I-80 N was renumbered, I-82 should have been used for Portland and I-84 to Yakima and Seattle to keep the grid pattern valid. Not much of I-82 was yet built then. Like I-82, I-83 is short for an Interstate. It's really a spur of I-81.

[@ControlCityFreak]

Agree, but I’m sure ODOT would have fought that for the same of having the same number across the state

[@dvferyance]

Just remember though Costco hq is in Washington state so it is not that surprising to have stores in smaller markets in their home state. It's like Menards in Wisconsin they have one in Antigo a town of only 8,000 people. Highly unlikely they would be there if it was not in their home state.

[@ControlCityFreak]

True

[@tylermarchand2996]

drf81 Even if Costco weren’t based in Kirkland, Yakima is still 250k metro. On a road trip I took this summer, I saw Costco warehouses in Fargo and Kalamazoo further east, and they have roughly similar metro populations…

[@timothycook2917]

I-82 was improperly numbered. It lies between I-84 and I-90, so it should have been 86 or 88. Not logically numbered based on a layered numbering system

[@ControlCityFreak]

I think it was numbered when 84 was still 80N, so it kind of makes sense. Once 80N had to become 84, it makes sense that Oregon wouldn’t want the main east west highway in the state to switch numbers mid-flow

[@autotechxbox163]

I mean no offense to anyone living in Walla Walla, Washington but every time he said the name of that town, I couldn't stop laughing.

[@ControlCityFreak]

Freshman year of college there were 3 people named Chris in my circle of friends. They were known as Girl Chris (short for Christine in her case), LA Chris, and Walla Walla Chris. Never stopped being funny.

[@tylermarchand2996]

My mom grew up there, and that’s where her family currently lives. Nice, quiet little city only 45 minutes away from the Tri Cities.

[@TimEssDub]

4:05 US 730 is the current highest numbered US route.

[@ControlCityFreak]

Oh wow didn't know that

[@trentcrudup691]

Also the shortest length US route :p

[@danadnauseam]

Traffic from the Tri-Cities to Portland usually takes the US 730 cutoff at Umatilla.

[@truckercowboyed2638]

It's funny it's i82 east/west yet most of it goes in a north /south direction

[@tylermarchand2996]

Lots of Interstates do this. 26 and 85 come to mind.

[@mxderate]

@@tylermarchand2996 11 too (for now)

[@Vitemer448]

For westbound, why not go with the dual city approach? Kennewick/Seattle, Yakima/Seattle, Seattle.

[@ControlCityFreak]

I’d be fine with that

[@mxderate]

Probably do an AZ move and put the secondaries in a smaller font size.

[@georgemoore2952]

I almost always drive through the canyon between Selah and Ellensburg rather than I-82 because it's a nicer drive and to avoid all the trucks and weaving around said trucks that is required due to steep hills on that section of the interstate. Also the right lanes on that section of I-82 have these really annoying regularly spaced divots in the road that are horrible on the ride quality (I-90 between Cle Elum and Thorp has these too, such a PITA, literally).

[@ControlCityFreak]

I really want to try it, looks like a great drive!

[@ChasetheG]

7:00 A road well known for it’s hatred of 23 year olds.

[@ControlCityFreak]

lol

[@tylermarchand2996]

This should be pretty straightforward; I wouldn’t really add much here except that U.S. 730 W is a more direct shortcut towards Portland (same driving time, shorter distance) and Boise for I 84 E. As for the lack of Kennewick signs for eastbound, I 82 actually skirts the southern edge of the city; I 182 only directly serves Richland (home of the Hanford Nuclear Power Plant) and Pasco (where the airport is). And I think Prosser is listed “Illinois style” because it is the seat of Benton County.

[@georgemoore2952]

There's also a big rest area and several big truck/service stops in Prosser

[@ArcadeDoggo]

Costco actually started in Seattle,Washington. That’s why Yakima has one.

[@tylermarchand2996]

Even then, Yakima has a metro population if 250k. What puzzles me is that Carson City (55k metro) has it’s own Costco (Reno, where I live, is only 30 minutes to the north, and has two to offer). Meanwhile, where my mom’s family lives (Walla Walla, 60k metro), doesn’t have one, and it’s 45 minutes east of the Tri Cities.

[@Nemofishman]

@@tylermarchand2996 I live about 20 minutes frm Eureka (metro 40k) and it also has one. Always busy, and it opened WAY back in 1994!

[@tylermarchand2996]

Kuku h Okay, that may be a good example. Humboldt County has 135k, but Eureka is actually a micro area, so it fits in with Kalispell and Roseburg.

[@Nemofishman]

@@tylermarchand2996 Warrenton OR is even tinier only 6300 and has one (Astoria area, 40k)

[@tylermarchand2996]

Kuku h Okay, Astoria is now the smallest one I’ve heard of. Makes it more absurd that Walla Walla (60k metro) doesn’t have one…

[@mxderate]

Mod’s the way it should be: (EAST): Yakima, Kennewick, Boise, Boise/Portland (WEST): Seattle

[@ControlCityFreak]

Solid

[@tylermarchand2996]

Moderate Productions Spokane should also be signed up to the U.S. 395 split in Kennewick. You would think intuitively that traffic from Boise would follow U.S. 95 and U.S. 195 as it's more direct, but U.S. 95 is very treacherous between I 84 and Lewiston (not to mention climbing out of Lewiston towards Moscow or Pullman). According to Google Maps, taking I 84 through Oregon to I 82, and U.S. 395 through Washington is 5-20 minutes faster than going through Idaho.

[@mxderate]

@@tylermarchand2996 I’m not against that, but I’d still prefer just Seattle. It’s a much bigger traffic driver and much bigger.

[@seancallahan5612]

I was thinking about the worst control signed interstate that you have covered so far, my pick is I-25, but that’s just me.

[@ControlCityFreak]

It well could be

[@seancallahan5612]

@@ControlCityFreak Out of the three Denver two-digit interstates, I-25 is the best complaining about limon 😂

[@mxderate]

@@seancallahan5612 76 comes close

[@mxderate]

Agreed. Best is 65 and/or 30

[@EpicThe112]

For I-84 Western States the sign at 4:35-4:40 could have been I-84 East Pendleton Boise ID I-84 West the Dalles Portland. On I-83 In the Harrisburg area some signs are York Baltimore for South Bound

[@tylermarchand2996]

EpicThe112 I like that. There is no reason why York should be glossed over. 45k city, 110k urban core, and 450k metro (outside of Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, huge by Pennsylvania standards); plus it provides direct access to another metro about the same size as (if not bigger than) Harrisburg-Carlisle: Lancaster.

[@EpicThe112]

@@tylermarchand2996 I agree and I-76 exit 242 uses I-83 York Baltimore Harrisburg

[@mikeshumaker]

If you thought the end of I-82 at I-84 wasn't the best, wait until you do I-84 in a couple weeks. Just looking through Idaho's control cities on that highway and they are not very good. Look at on-ramps. Like between Twin Falls and Boise, for example, at on-ramps. And in Boise, even at the end of I-184. Probably worse than Oregon. But Utah signs them much better.

[@deutschekanadische]

I wish there was a channel like this but for Canada, talking about like highways in the provinces and territories

[@ControlCityFreak]

I’ll get to some of Canada eventually

[@deutschekanadische]

@@ControlCityFreak That's good! :) Please do Highway 2 in Alberta, it's really cool and it's densely populated so there's lots to talk about

[@mxderate]

@@ControlCityFreak TC-1 is one you definitely should do. 4,000 miles

[@scottbrockman5883]

This always will always remain a mystery to me. The current I- 82 should be renumbered I- 86 & I- 84 should run between Portland and Pocatello & that the current I- 84 that runs southeast between Burley & Salt Lake should be renumbered I- 82. Which makes more sense when reading Road Atlas, State Map, or Google Maps, and also the Interstate numbers would go up from 80 to 82, then 84 to 86 & cut back on the distance and on costs and on gas and oil instead of confusing people who travel those Interstates from 80, 84, 86 and 82. But, what do I know, I'm just one person. But I know how to read a map and never failed at math or geography. That's just my opinion, though.

[@ControlCityFreak]

Sensible

[@jasonfullerton7763]

I've never been to Bend, Ore. but I hear they have a lot of wood.

[@Ndalum07]

Think I’d sign Spokane along with Seattle for I-82 on eastbound I-84. Maybe on westbound I-84 as well since it’s pretty barren in eastern Oregon and southeast Washington in terms of getting to Spokane in a more straight-line route. And yes, totally ridiculous to not sign I-84 East for Boise.

[@mxderate]

I thought he meant Limon

[@geoffreyreuther5260]

3:10 because I-182 does not directly serve Kennewick, nor does it pass through. In fact, it starts north of Kennewick, and keeps wandering even farther north until you cross the river and into Pasco. You'd have to either drive through Richland's surface streets, or transfer to another highway (SR240 in Richland or US 395 S in Pasco) to get to Kennewick going via I-182. 3:33 No, actually, you wouldn't have gone out of your way to go to Kennewick via US395 N. As mentioned above, at no point does I-182 touch or go through Kennewick. Meanwhile, I-82 is either touching or very close to Kennewick from Badger Road to this exit. This is the exit I take to visit my father, who lives in Kennewick, and has lived in all 3 of the Tri Cities over the past 20+ years. If you need to go to the very northwestern edge of Kennewick, to Columbia Center or the immediate vicinity, you *might* consider I-182 to SR240. I personally wouldn't because 182 through Richland can be an absolute cluster, whereas I-82 is generally wide open. For the bulk of Kennewick, staying on I-82 and exiting either at Badger or US395N is way better, and probably actually a shorter distance.

[@ControlCityFreak]

Makes sense. Great info, thanks! You’ve convinced me.

[@kristygunterman]

Love your videos

[@ControlCityFreak]

Thanks!

[@geraldnagytenneson]

The way I think it should be EAST: Boise WEST: Seattle

[@JustinCasavant]

8:23 nice

[@mlck3851]

Tumblr's the way it should be for I82 East: Yakima Tri Cities (don't just sign 1 city just represent the whole region by signing Tri Cities) Boise West: Tri Cities Yakima Seattle Yakima and the Tri Cities aren't TOO close to Seattle, so I decided to sign both

[@mxderate]

Seattle is where the traffic is going though. That's why this route exists.

[@jordanjones5751]

I’m excited about I-83 next week

[@ControlCityFreak]

Will be cool!

[@jordanjones5751]

@@ControlCityFreak I know that Washington state does a great job with control cities did you know that?

[@ControlCityFreak]

@@jordanjones5751 I feel like it's fair to middling on 82. Maybe 90 will be better.

[@jordanjones5751]

@@ControlCityFreak New York does a really good job signing big cities

[@mxderate]

@@ControlCityFreak I-90 is actually pretty solid. I-5 is too. I think WA does a good job besides a part of I-82.

[@samsticka]

I-82 is a weird route. Parts of it go the opposite direction as signed. For example, after the Tri-cities, I-82 goes south and west instead of east like its labeled.

[@ControlCityFreak]

Yeah definitely more of a diagonal route, probably closer to n-s than e-w

[@highway2heaven91]

My way it should be: I-82 Eastbound: Yakima Kennewick Boise (with mileage signs for Portland as well) Boise/Portland (In Oregon) I-84 Westbound: Kennewick (secondary) Yakima Seattle Most long-distance drivers are probably using this road to reach Seattle or Portland (or maybe Yakima or the Tri-Cities) so places like Prosser or Pendleton are horrible choices. It would also be nice to include the distances to Seattle or Boise on the first mileage signs seen on the interstate in either direction. Can’t wait for the interesting take that you’ll have on the I-84 West video coming up soon.

[@ControlCityFreak]

Been looking forward to that one, I've driven it a couple times

[@mxderate]

Would not sign Yakima or Tri-Cities going WB, at least not as primaries.

[@j.s.7335]

I disagree with your choice for westbound. In the same fashion as Boise/Portland going east, it should be Seattle/Spokane till the split with 395, and then just Seattle. I would be interested to know why you wouldn't sign Spokane.

[@ControlCityFreak]

A) Traffic coming from Boise isn't necessarily getting on 82 for Spokane, and traffic from SLC and east definitely isn't, and B) Seattle and Spokane are in no way equals. That said, I wouldn't be against Seattle/Spokane signage on 84 for 82. Almost anything would be better than the way it's currently signed.

[@tylermarchand2996]

@@ControlCityFreak Intuitively, you're right about Boise-Spokane traffic. However, U.S. 95 between I 84 and Lewiston (plus climbing out of Lewiston towards Moscow and Pullman) is very mountainous and treacherous. And that's not even considering potential winter conditions...

[@j.s.7335]

Thanks. I should have explained that my reasoning for Spokane was to sign something on I-94 for traffic heading east from Portland, Spokane just being the best option.

[@roadgeek1961]

I 82 Both Yakima and Kennewick, Pasco, Richland have a metro of close to 300 k which surprises me. Mostly a connector for I 80 and I 90 via I 84 . Seattle, Boise, Salt Lake City and points East. The population of Oregon is Mostly on the I 5 corridor. Definitely find that out when you do I 84 western US. I 82 sounds out of place if you don't know the history. I 84 used to be I 80 N before 1980 when AASHTO changed alot of the Suffix roads to new 2 digits or 3 digits. Back to Pa. for I 83 and I 84 East .

[@tylermarchand2996]

Well, at least I 83 will be short and sweet. Baltimore, York and Harrisburg.

[@mxderate]

@@tylermarchand2996 Harrisburg and Baltimore. York shouldn’t be signed.

[@tylermarchand2996]

@@mxderate I'm going to have to respectably disagree with you here. Even by Pennsylvania standards, it is a major population area. There may only be 40k in the city, but the surrounding townships make an urban core of more than 100k (comparable to the urban core around State College), it's too far out from Harrisburg to be considered a "suburb", the metro has 450k (almost triple that of State College), and it has LOTS of important history (i.e. the Continental Congress and the Articles of Confederation). Plus, it is at a major crossroads leading to not just Harrisburg and Baltimore, but also Lancaster (another one time "national capital") and the most famous battlefield maybe ever. I'm willing to look away from Carlisle and, to a lesser extent, Chambersburg, but not this.

[@mxderate]

@@tylermarchand2996 Chambersburg is not a good control city. Baltimore is significantly bigger and much more well known than York. Harrisburg is the capital and again, much more well known. Please note that Interstates are meant for long-distance traffic. Not local. And since most long-distance travelers don’t know York, it shouldn’t be signed.

[@CrystalClearWith8BE]

For the Tri-Cities, WA area, I agree that Kennewick, WA is the best choice. However, why not just call it Tri-Cities instead? I have another idea for signing cities as follows.: Eastbound I-82: •Yakima, WA •Tri-Cities, WA (Kennewick, WA) •Hermiston-Pendleton, OR | >Boise, ID Westbound I-82: •Tri-Cities, WA (Kennewick, WA) •Yakima, WA | >Seattle •Ellensburg, WA | >Seattle

[@andykillsu]

Because people not familiar with the area will not know what the 'Tri-Cities' are. Its just like how the Quad Cities in Illinois and Iowa aren't labeled Quad Cities on interstates.

[@mxderate]

Westbound I would go straight to Seattle.

[@catholicactionbibleonlyist1813]

Should be I-62 when you do western I-84 I tell you why I agree with you on Boise for eastbound, Pendleton does not have a college

[@samseddmedia]

Todd's "The Way It Should Be" is confusing on this one. I haven't heard of Yakima before, so I don't know why Todd's "The Way It Should Be" puts Yakima on Eastbound I-82, but Seattle the whole way Westbound on I-82, that makes perfect sense. I feel like this is the way it should be for I-82: Eastbound: Kennewick Boise Boise/Portland Westbound: Seattle I've never heard of Yakima, and I don't think it's control city worthy (feel free to disagree with me on this one).

[@ControlCityFreak]

I’d figure Yakima is at least as famous as Kennewick, if not more. I lived in Tacoma a year, Yakima is plenty well known locally, and nearly all eastbound 82 traffic is coming from the Seattle or elsewhere in western Washington. The only other place eastbound 82 traffic could be coming from is BC

[@samseddmedia]

@@ControlCityFreak I think that most traffic would be headed towards Kennewick from Seattle. More traffic perhaps than Yakima.

[@mxderate]

Yakima is okay. Not married to it but it is definitely well known. It also has a 250k metro population so I’m okay with it.

[@nutsahoy]

Yakima is the bootyhole of Washington!

[@c.t.turner2123]

I hope I don't ruffle any feathers here, Truthfully I-82 hopefully becomes part of the New I-11 corridor. Granted that would take years to build. Driving from Portland or Seattle to Vegas without having to deal with I-5 in California. Win Win in my opinion. As for I-82 that would replace I-88 in Illinois due to its close proximity to I-80.

[@markwilson4078]

If that happens, then what should be 82 is Eastern 84. There was going to be an I-82 going from Hartford to Providence long before I was born, but that got canceled in 1968. It became 384, so that was going to be built to Providence until it was learned that the route would have gone through protected wetlands, so it ends in Bolton instead where you have to get on Route 6 if you want to head towards Providence. So yeah, the 84 in the Northeast becoming 82 would be a more fitting conclusion to 82 becoming part of the 11 corridor.

[@ControlCityFreak]

I highly doubt 11 will ever extend beyond Reno, going north from there is just so sparsely populated. I honestly doubt anything beyond Vegas-PHX will happen in any of our lifetimes.

[@bigj200016]

Agree eastbound. Westbound, maybe 3 control cities to start. From East 84 Tri Cities/Spokane and from west Tri Cities/Seattle And unfortunately ODOT is a lot like IDOT

[@mxderate]

Ohio?

[@bigj200016]

@@mxderate no. Oregon

[@mxderate]

@@bigj200016 Oh then that’s ORDoT. ODoT is Ohio.

[@armandoperez7967]

I can’t wait for Interstate 95!

[@armandoperez7967]

And also Interstate 90 and 94!

[@mikeshumaker]

@@armandoperez7967 Look forward to 94 myself since I live in Michigan. Most entrances at ramps are signed well here.

[@tylermarchand2996]

Armando Perez I think the I 95 video(s) may actually be longer than the I 90 video(s). Seattle-Spokane-Coeur d’Alene-Billings-Rapid City-Sioux Falls-La Crosse-Madison-Janesville-Rockford-Chicago-South Bend-Elkhart-Toledo-Cleveland-Erie-Buffalo-Rochester-Syracuse-Utica-Albany-Springfield-Worcester-Boston vs Miami-Sebastian-Port St. Lucie-Palm Bay-Daytona Beach-Jacksonville-Savannah-Florence-Lumberton-Fayetteville-Rocky Mount-Richmond-Washington-Baltimore-Philadelphia-Trenton-New York-Bridgeport-New Haven-New London-Providence-Boston-Portland-Bangor.

[@armandoperez7967]

@@tylermarchand2996 I am sure they will be CCF’s longest videos and highly entertaining! I have always lived close to Interstate 95 and it is my personal favorite interstate.

[@mxderate]

@@tylermarchand2996 Rochester MN too on 90

[@ernestmitchell4452]

Maritime desert is much cooler than the desert southwest.

[@tylermarchand2996]

Ernest Mitchell How about mountain desert (east of Reno)?

[@mxderate]

I’m from Arizona and I approve this message.

[@Yahir_s._]

I Think That I-82 Should Be I-9 Because It’s North & South End Is Angled North & South & It Can Be An Extension To Bend, Oregon & Connect With California’s I-7 or I-9.

[@ControlCityFreak]

It’s a diagonal through and through. SLC and Seattle are more east-west from each other than north-south

[@coplandrose524]

Okay, hear me out. I-82 travels further North/South than it does East/West. It should be renamed I-7 or I-9 to better fit this. After that, rename eastern I-84 to I-82.

[@ControlCityFreak]

This checks out!

[@DMAN_2314]

Dave's the Way it Should Be: EAST: Boise, Boise/Portland WEST: Seattle

[@ControlCityFreak]

Agreed

[@mxderate]

No Kennewick going EB?

[@benjaminchandler7919]

That ignores the tri-cities. Kennewick should be the secondary in Oregon and the main between Yakima and 182

[@DMAN_2314]

@@mxderate I could maybe see Kennewick EB but I determined that Boise/Portland is a bigger traffic driver and wayyyy bigger population than Kennewick (and that's despite Kennewick's population being over 80k people)

[@mxderate]

@@DMAN_2314 Portland is most certainly not a bigger traffic driver than the Tri-Cities going EB, and Boise is not too much bigger and is a lot further. Plus, if you remove Kennewick, then it would only make sense to remove Yakima too.

[@drivingbritt9617]

Hey Todd, question here, Which interstate was your favorite to drive?

[@ControlCityFreak]

70

[@dylansmith9342]

@@ControlCityFreak it's because it goes to Limon isn't it? I live in Colorado and laugh when I see Limon signs now!

[@ControlCityFreak]

@@dylansmith9342 Nah but the Denver to I-15 section is the best, urban sections in KC, StL, Indy, C-Bus are cool and even the western KS section is not without its charms

[@drivingbritt9617]

@@ControlCityFreak Interesting. I plan on driving the entire length of I-10 in Texas someday.

[@ControlCityFreak]

@@drivingbritt9617 Would be cool!

[@CSXEK]

I would get rid of pendolton and put BOISE!

[@ControlCityFreak]

Same!

[@mxderate]

I think Todd was trying to say Limon.

[@ianb9851]

Hey just be glad the eastern I-82 doesn't exist anymore, that's one less visit to Pennsylvania to worry about!

[@ControlCityFreak]

Yep!

[@mxderate]

But next week…

[@ianb9851]

@@mxderate Yeah I know, that's why I said "One less". I know he's not done with PA quite yet 🤣

[@mxderate]

@@ianb9851 I love how we are just ranting on about PA’s signage.

[@courtemanche437]

@@ianb9851 Oh he'll never be. Interstate 99 is the last 2-digit Interstate and that one ONLY serves PA. Goes right past my home as a matter of fact :)

[@liamkelly4684]

Umatilla is pronounced you-ma-tilla.

[@newflyer2198]

76 Eastern is the first episode of, ugh, Pennsylvania since the I-70 videos. But this is the first non-Pennsylvania episode since 77! 76 W: NO Pennsylvania 76 E: Pennsylvania 77: NO Pennsylvania 78: Pennsylvania 79: Pennsylvania 80: Pennsylvania 81: Pennsylvania 82: NO Pennsylvania 83: Pennsylvania 84 W: NO Pennsylvania 84 E: Pennsylvania

[@ControlCityFreak]

Yep PA has quite a run of roads

[@mxderate]

@@ControlCityFreak And unfortunately it doesn’t do good with those roads.

[@mxderate]

85: NO Pennsylvania 86 E: Pennsylvania 86 W: NO Pennsylvania 87 S: NO Pennsylvania 87 N: NO Pennsylvania 88 E: NO Pennsylvania 88 W: NO Pennsylvania 89: NO Pennsylvania 90: Pennsylvania 91: NO Pennsylvania 93: NO Pennsylvania 94: NO Pennsylvania 95: Pennsylvania 96: NO Pennsylvania 97: NO Pennsylvania 99: Pennsylvania

[@ReallyBadDriving]

@@mxderate I-86 E does go into Pennsylvania. Twice.

[@mxderate]

@@ReallyBadDriving Oh yeah. My bad.

[@AdamSmith-gs2dv]

And next week we get terrible PA control cities again!

[@mxderate]

Yay!

[@darknessnight1115]

God I hate that sign font lmao @2:00

[@SlowedByMaple]

It’s still the Highway Gothic font, it’s just that the first letters of the words are bigger for some reason 🤷‍♂️

[@WizardToby]

What it should be: 82 South: Yakima/Tri Cities and then Boise 82 North: Tri Cities then Seattle Even better: Make it an odd numbered interstate like 7 or 9

[@NeutralAngel365]

first

[@David-qi1ys]

Yeah, we get it. It’s the only thing your state has to brag about and you’ll continue doing so until the cows come home. 😉🙃

[@NeutralAngel365]

@@David-qi1ys ok

[@mxderate]

Correct both ways. First comment and first state lol

[@NeutralAngel365]

@@mxderate lol

[@JonSwimmer]

On I 90 east to south US 395, signs simply say to Pasco (Tri Cities) for simplicity, rather than naming them all. Not sure why they don't on I 90 west to I 82. Most people here just say "Tri Cities".