Interview: Jacob Collier (Part 3)

[@Kbbrianne]

Jacob listing silences made me feel impossibly seen. the boy is a poet. a huge, singing heart. what.

[@BrunaChaves09]

Kristin Briggs it made me wonder if he would ever try a writing career; I would love to read more of his stuff, if they all follow the line of this silence poem.

[@wongdianemuzik]

I was doing the chinese subtitle for this one and was so confused when he says "knocks on wood", wonder if it's the superstitious-knock or the literal-knock that is silence to him??

[@jacobhelbig6967]

@@BrunaChaves09 he does have a writing career! look at all the lyrics he's writing! read the lyrics to time to rest your weary head and in the real early morning, and feel and so many other of his songs! but yeah, i get what you're saying. i think it just re-emphasizes that his ability of expression is *even* better through music

[@SgtMacska]

28:03 for reference

[@alebowmusic]

When the best thing in July is June

[@julioahora]

When something recorded in June by June gets released in July... a year after.

[@natem362]

@@julioahora It's a great way to keep the channel traffic high, by not releasing everything right away. June Lee: Socia media prodigy.

[@Exploshi]

Simp

[@Breakbeat90s]

False

[@keevanganasen4476]

Well a year later you would t believe how true this is

[@twistedtranslations]

That autoharp hit what the heavens

[@BookooZenny]

Iconic

[@samuelele]

100% something I've never ever seen or heard before

[@PsytranceGOUGAS]

:O

[@clyrawolf]

That ending was really heartfelt and spoke to me on a fundamental level. He really is a brilliant man

[@clyrawolf]

Greg Gregory Nope

[@matthewlyonhazzard]

I started tearing up hearing the ending bit, too. He's a human like all of us, trying to share the beauty he's found with the world.

[@lilsixfoot995]

Matthew Lyon Hazzard beautiful

[@zachyarrow8067]

I think the last thing is so important in terms of how people see Jacob, I hate how many people see him as just a ‘crazy theory chord tuning guy’, which of course he is in the best possible way, but he is also an incredibly emotionally vivid artist, I do think he is widely misinterpreted. This was incredible as always June ❤️

[@juozsx]

I dont see any problem if someone is a ‘crazy theory chord tuning guy’

[@deldia]

Crazy theory chord tuning guy propagating the very name you’re trying to suppress therefore self-fulfilling the very problem person

[@LeeerroyJenkins]

If you only heard his music, and you didn't really enjoy, understand or care for it, I could see why people would hold that belief. As skilled as he is, not everyone will necessarily get the same message from his music. But Jacob, the person, is very insightful, thoughtful and absurdly passionate about this stuff. He speaks very clearly and in a way that pulls you in. I think those people just have not listened to him, the person.

[@Ash-fm6ym]

His music just isn't interesting to me, it's obviously impressive on a technical level but that's all it doesn't move me in any way and his voice is also super annoying.

[@unholylemonpledge9730]

No he isnt

[@AimeeNolte]

My husband: “Did Jacob say anything that was new to you?” Me: “Uhhhhh 😭🤒”

[@JonnyMay]

Aimee Nolte Music Does he ever say anything that isn't new in some way? 😉

[@gil-evens]

Aimee is everywhere 😂

[@LotusGtRY]

Acid and God are everywhere

[@Tofumang]

But is it new if everything he says is too hard to comprehend in the first place lol

[@JayTheLane]

He's beyond glorious musically. We can only bask in that glory. When he got his laptop out, mind blown.

[@esanders]

An entire college course could be spent on “Hideaway.” Wow.

[@oscargill423]

32:38 made me tear up a little bit. I'd always had faith in Jacob and just accepted his brilliance not as flexing, like some haters do, but just as sheer inspirational brilliance. But now I see clearly that his brilliance isn't just him pushing boundaries for the sake of pushing boundaries. He's a kid in his own musical world, and he just wants to share his musical world with everyone else. And I love that so much. This has become a large part of the reason I love Jacob. Not only is he and his technically and emotionally mind-blowing, he loves doing it. I wish there was a love button in KZbin, because I would push it for those last two minutes alone. Love you, Jacob. Keep being the happiest kid in the world.

[@seanbutler8122]

This is one of the most humanizing interviews I’ve ever seen and really makes me see Jacob in a whole new light. Thank you so much for sharing this

[@dougbenishek5236]

Wow. The level of care he puts into his music and the beautiful results that come from it only get more apparent the more you delve into his mind. Thanks for humanizing him and showing us this side of the art. I learn and explore so much about emotion from his words.

[@jkntrds9635]

why are the results end up being mediocre?

[@FirstRoyceMusic]

I think the part at the end where the screen goes black is such good advice, and possibly my biggest take away from this video. Thank you, June.

[@marciamakesmusic]

All the people saying he calculates his music and doesn't feel it can go suck it. Truly a man connected to his art.

[@tejs1234]

You are not the only one... that was wonderful indeed. Thanks for your thoughts Jacob - and thanks for you "humanization" of the wonders :P

[@evanpragliola4947]

yeah seriously felt a little choked up as the video ended. thank you June

[@Rhinostinction]

I feel that feeling man, I do. But what is the word they say as it fades to black? "Hejango" around 32:18 ?

[@tejs1234]

Hajanga? like the song Collier wrote. :D

[@jordancameron5171]

HAVE NEVER CLICKED ON A NOTIFICATION FASTER

[@sbingham1979]

June Lee thank you for making this fascinating video - you are obviously someone perfect to share this level of complexity in music with the likes of a genius like Jacob Collier; you are impressive because you are respectful in your listening: you don't interrupt! This is rare in this day and age: you are to be commended.

[@activeobserver6503]

JC: "I just sort of chuckled a little bit and left it in."

[@scoopsmcgoops]

That Norah Jones' Nightingale thing was just absolutely breathtaking.

[@beng2617]

id do anything for an hour-long interview part 4 regarding Djesse vol. 2

[@jacobhelbig6967]

YES also go to his patreon. for five bucks a month, that basically happens. you can watch all the previous livestreams too, of which there are quite a few, answering really in-depth questions.

[@phoebewells4587]

That black screen at the end brought me to tears, because there was such a new side to everything, it made me evaluate how I view his music, music in general and the theory behind it. I will never be able to see things through someone like Jacob’s eyes, yet he tries to communicate these emotions and experiences through music - that concept is the essential foundation of music - it’s why music theory exists, I’ll try not to forget that. Thank you.

[@tauria8083]

24:45 I cannot stop watching this bit it’s so cute

[@gabelonguinhos]

32:15 so cute man

[@ivanhendr]

Should've ended in a makeout session #fanfiction

[@bernardshakey1867]

The part where he's breaking down the tracks and production of hideaway is just breathtaking. What an inspiration.

[@arcioko2142]

Yes

[@NeSkuSound]

Watching this video i feel more Hallelujah than i can ever reach in church. Gotta go cry.

[@alanrie]

Саша, привет с:

[@lolotronop]

@@alanrie Гыгыгы. Не зря зашел пересмотреть

[@keroykk]

ух ты, привет)

[@headrat1]

When you die all you leave behind are the stories that you've told! Brilliant interview and exploration of the music and soul of Jacob. His love of beauty shines through. Thanks so much for sharing this!

[@everydaylouie]

the norah jones thing what the hell

[@elliotskunk]

man like louie Zong! you help me visualise so much stuff, cheers

[@PanSkrypciK]

That journal from 27:40 is going to be worth millions one day!

[@NoStickTricks]

"People notice the absence of their expectation beeing fulfilled." (6:59) Love that quote, espeacially that he's using the word fulfilled here, to beautfilluy frame his idea into words.

[@ReVoLynx]

I almost partly wished he would make the Logic files to his songs public... Only because by watching these videos, I've learned that there's so much beauty and wonderful detail hidden in his creations, which sadly is just lost on my mortal ears without this kind of a breakdown. Thanks for the upload, June! Really appreciated.

[@rationalactor]

ReVoLynx I totally agree. Even if they can't be made publicly available, some IT person close to Jacob MAKE SURE HE HAS GOOD BACKUPS! This stuff needs to be saved for future generations!

[@rationalactor]

And a big thanks, Jacob and June!

[@markiplierSINGSbadly]

agreed, even if they end up not being public, they deserve in a library to be preserved as a piece of history at very least

[@terepanjaitan]

THE BROMANCE IS REAL

[@tadpoleeeee]

22:02 With headphones is an out of body experience. The D bass note at the end is so grounding, Praise Jacob

[@arcioko2142]

gay old time

[@ASMRFriday]

21:24 - He could have sent you the midi all along.

[@dako2117]

HAHAHAHAHAH

[@JuneLee]

rekt

[@reharm_reality]

What he says about how making the line charming makes it more terrifying reminds me of drawing. If you want to make blue a darker, deeper blue, you add orange. Orange is the opposite of blue. Negative color, negative, intentions, negative harmony... polarity seems to be everywhere.

[@Relflow]

The most magical part for me was this: 18:04 That piano part being underneath the surface, a place I can't hear or reach but it's still there makes this just unbelievably wonderful.

[@durianhead]

also a hideaway instrumental needs to come out holy shit it sounds insanely good

[@samuelele]

I wanna have hideaway every single instrument group, so I can extract them and play along with the piano :D (except for the first verse because A=432 :D but really, Hideaway is probably the most perfect song on earth, imo. It is just perfect to the very little detail!

[@rikaichinose263]

Simeon Bell Hideaway combines four different tunings, I think

[@samuelele]

I realized there were two, but it's very possible, Jacob has a bigger musical mind than the rest of the world combined :D

[@rikaichinose263]

Simeon Bell I don't remember the values exactly, but I think he starts at A=410~ Hz and ends on A=450~ Hz, making the entire song a sort of progression in brightness and openness , in addition to the progression in the notes themselves

[@samuelele]

it starts at A=432 that, I'm pretty certain because A=412 is pretty exactly one half-tone lower, but I can imagine very well that the tuning changes again when the E major part kicks in :)

[@SamRobson]

The Norah Jones song ended sounding a bit like Teardrops by massive attack. Kinda explains why Teardrops has such an amazing colour to it.

[@BrunaChaves09]

Sam Robson hi, nice seeing you here! I'm a fan of your work as well ✌ God bless!

[@luableah7615]

Hi Sam!

[@lennontroppo]

congrats, June. Forever grateful for giving us this unforgetable and inspiring interview. Jacob is out of this world and you help us understand and love his music even more.

[@nohaylamujer]

Thank you very much for this 3-part interview. There'are so many lessons to learn about life and emotions here, I'll have to come back to these interviews very often.

[@andreacardone3864]

Amazing job! Thank you June! Jacob is certainly the genius that will mark the history of music and history in general!

[@xJaGG3d]

22:35 casually visited in the studio by herbie hancock

[@ifusubtomepewdiepiewillgiv1569]

and so young...

[@lorenbonahooms9114]

I love when June sings

[@florianchoquet8679]

In all these interviews, you can see how Jacob understands himself, his life, and his world through music. He is an artist in the most meaningful sense of this word. Art is a means for self discovery and expression. The way his mind work makes me think he is a really high functioning asperger. What he says about intentions makes it especially clear. He was confused about the mind of other people. But what's amazing about him is his beautiful curiosity and positivity. He loved music and used it as a means to understand emotions and intentions in himself and others. The part about the opera shows that, through art, he understood the diversity and the complexity brought by the way people express themselves and are ambiguous about their intentions. And that is amazing because that self discovery feeds his musical world with so much meaning.

[@jonathanguyant4952]

All of a sudden I’ve gotten very scared that we won’t have much longer with Jacob in this life... after him saying that he still wishes to be alive at 30 and has trouble managing himself, his energy as well as the isolation that he sometimes faces when people contemplate his work and don’t completely feel and understand it. I feel like this is the archetype of the misunderstood genius that will inevitably burn out and leave us in a world just a tad bit sadder with his departure. Please stay with us Jacob, you’re a mesmerizing human being and an out of this world musician ❤️

[@jazzblossom4122]

I just finished watching this and all the other interviews and I'm considering rewatching the whole 34 minutes again. That's how precious this was

[@2witzrs]

I'm research theatre and listening to Jacob talking about music has always been insightful, but in this video he actually talks about theatre for a moment!!! I'm amazed by his deep sensitivity.

[@AlexDallas226]

HOLY SHIT I THOUGHT THE DAY WOULD NEVER COME

[@DelaneyHF]

6:44... I can't 😂😂

[@JuneLee]

I'm certain he was singing gibberish, but when I listened to the line carefully, it was so in tune - so I ended up harmonizing it :')

[@DelaneyHF]

June Lee dude.... you're so crazy haha. You two keep inspiring me everytime! Thank you for that🙏🏽

[@milaberdenisvanberlekom4615]

Crazy

[@DiffOriginal]

June Lee it’s so apart of him, he probably yawns in tune too lol

[@michaelcollins1942]

That was hilarious haha

[@OleVinny]

Mindblowing trilogy of videos. Wonderful how you were able to capture this. Thank you!

[@deborahprice6983]

June Lee, Jacob Collier, These interviews are priceless experiences that inspire like no other. Thank you!

[@chris_outh]

22:04 perfectly embodies the sensation you get from the music. I love it.

[@DavidBadilloMusic]

0:58 "... when I internalized it and memorized it..." That blows my mind and opens a new world of possibilities in my music learning journey. Amazing!

[@brandonborn9540]

This video really made me see Jacob in a new way. He was right, you do a great job showing us he's not a crazy genius. He's just a cool dude i wanna be friends with

[@evanpragliola4947]

this is less an interview than it is more a genius geeking out showing his friend his stuff, and honestly im fucking loving it. this was incredible, so inspiring, and im sure ill be back to watch many times

[@annmiddleton8780]

This verbalizes why your music is utterly magnetic and enthralling Jacob Collier. ❤

[@TancrediLoCigno]

The concept Jacob talks about in the beginning, where he focuses on the extra level of meaning and experience during that scene in The Turn of the Screw is so interesting and meta. Also, comparing it to the negative harmony stuff is an awesome idea, just because of that explanation, now negative harmony has a more specific application and meaning in my head. I have to say it's also because it reminds me a lot of the shift of perspective I had when I started studying rhythmic illusions. A musical phrase can live in different contexts and learning to know every angle of it shows you how it can assume a different light every time you change the harmonization, or you rhythmically modulate a pattern for example. It's been 4 years now that I've been taking my Time Trip drum clinic around. I filmed the last one I did at Berklee College of Music, there's is a highlights video on my channel if someone is interested. It's basically the rhythmical translation of what Jacob said about negative harmony

[@Eklundaren]

Thank you SO much for these interviews June. The inverted verb experience discussion is just one of many amazing insights! So greatful.

[@larrymorrison171]

Such a great poet too! What an artist! What a human being!

[@Leo000]

25:30 ah, the renowned "Eb^something" chord

[@ASMRFriday]

18:22 Scary June, yet another amazing video by you. Thank you!!

[@jordandukedj]

do not have a clue what he was talking about 90% of the time but still watched all 3 parts. so mesmerising, passionate and inspiring.

[@upsidedownmtv]

I think I’m in love

[@bobbobertson9063]

YES A THIRD PART..June you are a legend, you're so talented and every time I watch your videos I learn so much and laugh so hard at your amazing editing and incredible musical skill.

[@origineo]

That bonus at the end and the things he said... so interesting. He's such an awesome guy. Wish I could be his friend.

[@composercaleb]

Thank you for dedicating your time to this June and for sharing your heart Jacob. It really is a gift and we're grateful.

[@bonnieheat_on]

This is my favourite JC interview ever. Such an interesting and lovely look into Jacob's process & just him as an awesome person. Thank you for organising/posting this June 🎵

[@CosyStudios]

All 3 parts, exceptional and digestible content. Informative, inspirational and permissive. Thank you chaps.

[@medusa210562]

I have a bachelors degree in music education. And I knew cords to any song when I was 6 years old. I can tell you Jocob is a genius, At a level of some savants without being a savant. I am 56 and I can now I have met a Mozart A Stravinsky but indeed much more. For example about how (equal_unequal) temperament whants changes when chords are sang not played. He really has a computer in his head. And he is a nice person as well.

[@annmiddleton8780]

This is why we absolutely love Jacob immensely.

[@zlm2001]

I just heard of Jacob for the first time yesterday through a random recommended video called something like “how to modulate to G half sharp” and a composer on KZbin talked of Jacob. I’m about to go into my freshman year of college for music education (trumpet player with no music theory experience whatsoever) and I can’t get enough of just listening to this guy talk about music let alone the music itself

[@michllons]

this was the most beautiful interview i've ever seen

[@UnfurlWithYu]

the last bit is extreemly interesting, where jacob says people perceive him as very left-brained. But i gotta say, the reason i’ve been hooked about what and how he does stuff, is because of the emotional embodied way that he approaches making music. I don’t understand any music theory but i resonate so much with the emotions and feelings approach to how he creates and relates to music/sound. It’s hard to talk and describe an emotional feeling process and i think it’s best to simply listen to his music to understand what he couldn’t put into words. But to be able to understand on the emotional level that he talks about you also gotta be on a mental state where you are having access to be connected to your feelings. i feel like why so many people call him as this “musical genious” and don’t understand where he gets the ideas from, has so much to do with, those people not having experienced music on a pure emotional level like he has grown up with. What makes jacob so “crazy” with music is his very very deep emotional connection to it as well as how well he is in tune with his inner emotional world. And i feel like this is something that’s not lived nor encouraged in our current society, to be connected to our feelings.

[@ianmoore5502]

Sometimes I feel like he's talking straight to me. And it makes me feel so warm and beautiful.

[@rigil6500]

"cookie" was my favorite silence

[@JamesIanWorrall]

Jacob Collier is the first influencer to make me feel so emotionally understood since old school Markiplier.

[@lunaluovula5112]

Part 4: One whole hour of rhythm. Only rhythm. Rhythm chords. Rhythm cadence. Rhythm harmony. Rhythm theory. I want to hear more about individual subdivision beats being different lenght. Rhythm "chord" progressions. Rhythm voice leading. Amazing interviews. Thank you June Lee and Jacob Collier! 💖

[@blankyd3360]

Grudman But notes and harmonies are just macrorhythms. I think emotion has everything to do with rhythm.

[@blankyd3360]

Grudman No we hear notes and harmonies as superfast rhythms. Besides, if you played a ballad as fast as it normally is, would it be as sad? If trash metal was played super slow, would it still convey the same feeling?

[@MrThesamster]

"...you have to get as much nuance out of the music as you can get, [be]cause that's what really touches the people and keeps them coming back to check the music out... so that's all." - Wynton Marsalis

[@JakeDaJester]

Such a young mind so full of wisdom, endless creativity and inspiration! I loved watching these so much, it got me pumped to start more songs and to keep thinking outside of the box even if not everyone can appreciate it.

[@drewper73]

June, thanks for sharing another video of you and Jacob talking about the wide world of music. Being able to see the music transcribed on the screen helps so much. You guys are introducing concepts and ideas to people like me who would have never thought about the different types of tuning systems. Maybe if I had majored in music, then I might know about such things. Excellent!! So he turned 24 on the 2nd, which means he was still the ripe old age of 22 when you recorded this. I was going to comment on something that I’ve been thinking about ever since I saw your first interview with Jacob. I began to wonder if he walked around thinking about advanced music theory 24-7. However, in this video he addressed the fact that most people tend to think of him as being a very left-brained person. I’m paraphrasing. So, that addressed my curiosity regarding his seemingly highly analytical side. It was good to hear him thank you at the end for making these videos that show that he’s a human being and not some robot or something. I’m having trouble verbalizing what I’m trying to say but I bet you get it.

[@marcoguitarsolo]

Thank you, June!

[@persandholt]

Thank you. Just Thank you!!! June you are a perfect catalyst for Jacob to spill his wisdom to us. I love the joyfulness and respect that flows so clearly between you two. Amazing!

[@longlifetometal1995]

22:38 "with Herbie and Quincy" like in Herbie Hancock and Quincy Jones ????

[@tobypage6657]

"mY dAd GoT lEd ZePpElIn AnD i GoT rAp??/? sO uNfAiR" shut up you got Jacob collier

[@abelstypewriters]

He's a revalation. He's like the William Shakespeare of harmony.

[@wesgriffin2801]

I don’t get why so many people hats on rap. Sure it’s not unbelievably musically complex, but it is not meant to be, the focus is on the lyrics and the groove. Even so, there’s plenty of rap and hip hop out there that is very musical and beautiful.

[@RoseStrohm]

@@wesgriffin2801 This

[@dylanphelan3010]

@@wesgriffin2801 DOOM, Kendrick Lamar, Kanye West. C'mon

[@ohwhen7775]

If I had to sum up Jacob's music in one word it might be "difference" or "contrast". He's proof that building an extensive yet personal understanding of harmony (along with all the other elements) can be applied to any instrument. Kind of reminds me of what Hal Galper said that "we are the instrument".

[@singit3630]

That was so satisfying. Being clueless about theory, all musical experiences by ear...all three interviews put it into language I don't know in order to express...the 'why' I see and can touch the harmony, and why subtle nuances matter. Thank you...💜

[@aeonreflux6459]

This is such marvelous footage thank you so much for sharing this !!! As a fellow artist, I am so deeply inspired and oddly reassured in humanity by witnessing creative minds come together like this

[@Whxyte]

im so happy this exists, every part of it. How lovely and wonderful to see a part of the world shared through another person's intricate thoughts. it makes me feel less alone hammering out my own stuff where i put in so many details and so much thought that might never be perceived.

[@namelastname8569]

probably the greatest musical interview of all time. everyone has a story about how something got them into doing music but nobody got dat harmonic intellect like JC

[@yogavibe2516]

Absolutely Amazing ...i feel like i just spent time with true genius with an amazing generous heart . Thank you so much for these interviews

[@HouR_RL]

29:50 yea he got the collabs all right

[@vicentealvarado5608]

I think i'm gonna cry

[@josed.vargas3961]

SAME

[@jovbrza1749]

you are both amazing at explaining these ideas in real time, thank you so much.

[@simivb]

I Love these so much. I guess my favorite thing is the path you chose to sing through in my room. I never thought of that, and it feels soooo amazing!!

[@edstervedster]

This whole interview was just incredible. So special

[@harrykitchener-trevillion8600]

He bacc

[@yjloiselle]

Mystified and inspired once again. Still stunned that you harmonize -12 cents, and that a fourth is a few cents off. Loved hearing about claves recorded and brought down 2 octaves, or harmonizing Norah Jones' melody a fifth below... don't doubt that your listeners/admirers don't (partially) get what/why you are doing. It's precisely that you have so much humanity in everything you do that gives me the satisfaction of knowing I was alive when you were on Earth, or even having seen you perform live in Edmonton, Canada. Your BBC Proms concert is currently only available in the UK. Loved the 15-min. recap! I hope to see it in its entirety soon. Cheers to you, M. Collier.

[@goatflieg]

June Lee... thank you so much for these interviews... I cannot begin to express what you and Jacob brought to me here, and how deeply it connected.

[@superchrisi87]

So much joy listening to you both.

[@oliverpope4915]

IM SO HAPPY THIS CAME OUT I ACTUALLY REWATCHED THE FIRST TWO JUST YESTERDAY AND THIS WAS JUST PERFECT TIMING THIS BRINGS ME SUCH JOY

[@ho11owbone]

jacob is a true virtuoso! thank you for sharing a look into his mind, he spoke much wisdom.

[@christiaangebhard6300]

"Does it ever get lonely being British....."

[@deldia]

Christiaan Gebhard sometimes it must be fun to go to other countries in the car which British people can’t do (aside from Ireland).

[@tillyhossain1049]

@@deldia France? Go by ferry in your car or the EuroStar in your car and you could technically drive all the way to India.

[@deldia]

@@tillyhossain1049 Aware

[@liambudge]

thank you for documenting this all so beautifully. These are videos people will be watching in 100's of years time! Thanks for all your hard work June, documenting this genius musician!

[@tomanderson6140]

What an amazing interview. It's nice that Jacob seems to appreciate that your efforts "humanize" him and give insight into his world that might be hard for him to articulate in an accessible way.

[@modalmixture]

Really cool how at 11:30 he describes using the harmonic 7th in a dominant chord as a pivot in order to drop 31 cents , which he'd hinted at in Part 2 at 7:30. Also neat to see him bring up the difference in tuning on stacks of fourths vs fifths at 12:45. He showed that easter egg at the Berklee masterclass (13:00) as well. It's fascinating how everything in his music seems to organize around these axes of bright vs dark/perfect v plagal/fifths vs fourths/positive vs negative.

[@azulsaez6544]

"I'm the happiest kid in the world" Thanks for sharing this video June! xoxo