Interview with Jon "maddog" Hall, a true LEGEND of Linux

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SHOW NOTES ►► destinationlinux.net/366
Chapters:
00:00:00 Intro
00:01:15 Community Feedback
00:11:55 Sponsored by Namecheap
00:12:53 Interview with Jon "maddog" Hall
00:36:14 Sponsored by LINBIT
00:37:33 More with a Legend of Linux
01:08:38 Events
01:10:36 Outro
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#Linux #OpenSource #Podcast

[@mastertoymaker5249]

I am SOOOO glad that the DL crew captured these stories for posterity. I was lucky enough to hear John Hall tell us stories at the LinuxChix booth last year, and am so glad you all get to hear him too! Thank You Michael, Ryan, and Jill for making this happen. Fun fact: this was recorded during the SCaLe conference, and myself and the rest of the LinuxChix crew were sitting outside blocking the door to make sure no interruptions occurred, so I am finally getting to hear this for the first time. ❤

[@phoenixcello4103]

Vou escrever em português mesmo... 😂 ver John Maddog falar de São Paulo e do Brasil, ver a cara de espanto de vocês ao saberem da grandeza de meu país, me encheu de orgulho!!!

[@henriquecustodio]

Great interview. He is one of the supporters of the Caninos Loucos project of the Technological Integrated Systems Laboratory (LSI-TEC) of the University of São Paulo (USP). Vai Brasil!!!

[@Derpingtonshere]

AMAZING interview. I didn't know Maddog before this but I think I am gonna do a deeper dive on him. His way of telling you things is PHENOMENAL. He can deny it all he wants but he is a legend, along with everyone that helped get Linux and Open Source to where it is today. Maddog seems to be an very important piece in that story line. THANK YOU DL for this (and I cannot stress this enough) AMAZING interview. Really really wish it was longer but I will be waiting for the next interview you guys do with him.

[@codewizard58]

Brings back memories. I was DECUD Europe ULTRIX SIG chair 1989-1992 DECUS Europe sent the SIG chairs to the US spring conferences. So I got to do Atlanta in 89, New Orleans in 90 People I met at DECUS lead to me being offered a job in the USA. Volunteering is rewarding, sometimes in ways you did not imagine.

[@MrPecky]

This brought back so many memories, after being a DEC VMS admin for years i was tasked with getting us on the Arpanet. We had a spare VAX 11/750 sitting around so it became my BSD 4.2 unix machine, I learned all things unix and internet with it. We finally ended up running Ultrix on a heftier system. I remember going to DECUS condos well, really love the Anaheim one when they bought out Disneyland for the night. From there to SunOs 3.x and onto Solaris for many years, we adopted Zones (containers kind of) and more importantly ZFS, which really rocked! The Linux, and, eventually Docker…

[@IndianaJoenz]

Fantastic interview. Great job, I learned some stuff. I have been hearing Jon's name around Linux since the mid 90s. People forget just how much Linux was looked at as a "toy" back then, and how much more popular commercial Unix systems were in 1994-1996. DEC Alphas are legendary, too. I'd be interested to know what animation software Jill was using on Alphas back then! I could only dream of using one back in the day. I remember a friend of mine telling me they had an Alpha e-mail server where he was a sysadmin (back in the late 90s), and I was like, "Wow!"

[@Heater-v1.0.0]

Wow, forgot all about DECUS. Back in the 1880's I went with some guys from the company I worked for to a DECUS event in London. It was kind of huge. I don't really remember much about it except a demo of natural language command thing with was impressive. We did not get much out of it, we were building things with those new fangled microprocessors....anything from DEC was way too expensive for us.

[@mnicy]

Awesome interview

[@Bkrzduzn]

As a newer user these stories are fantastic.

[@joeloveslinux]

Thanks for this great interview! Really amazing!

[@Bob-of-Zoid]

I'm sitting here with my penguins watching!!🐧🐧🐧🙀 Oh, and my cat!😺

[@asandl]

Great interview! Thanks so much for sharing this! And please do another one!

[@notjustforhackers4252]

Fun episode guys!

[@profetik777]

Great interview! Loved hearing the stories!

[@CallousCoder]

Arguably the 6502 was already “RISC like” compared to the Z80. And as a 13 year old hacking assembly on the C64, I found the 8088 and Z80 really cumbersome with so ma y instructions it wasn’t easier to program. I’m glad that RISC, finally, 30 years too late imo is taking over. My money was on RISC but this was the longest bet ever 😂 There’s one CISC cpu that I actually liked and was easy to program assembly on and that was the might 68000

[@taidee]

I love the chain of good ideas 😂😂

[@bitlong4669]

Linux fo r dummies is what got me started in Linux. Thank you John!!!

[@discocat2500]

maddog is great. This was an informative and entertaining interview.

[@esra_erimez]

Wow! Congratulations on interviewing the man, the myth, the legend! (First)

[@barrycompton8972]

Thank you for the insights.

[@KakashiHatake-jz4bu]

This was AWESOME!!

[@guilherme5094]

👏👏👏!

[@bitsurface5654]

I won't bother you with tiny Puppy Linux, because You have the big "Maddog". Let's listen!!! 👍👍👍

[@esra_erimez]

🤣

[@brunorcabral]

🇧🇷 🇧🇷 🇧🇷

[@monad_tcp]

20:41 wow, that's almost one javascript library for every square meter of the planet

[@lanceevans1689]

That was amazing, thank! But did I miss it? How did you not ask him about his thoughts on the future of (desktop) Linux?

[@DestinationLinux]

This interview was super long and we didnt have time sadly, we got to the point where we only had a few minutes left of his time so we had to cut it off where we were. We mention at the end that we ran out of time and one of the questions that we were planning to ask is exactly that. 🤷‍♂️ On the bright side, maddog said he would come back on again in the future and we will absolutely ask him that and many more 😎 - Michael

[@lanceevans1689]

@@DestinationLinux I get it. But as interesting as all of his stories are - and they are - the future of linux was the money question everyone wanted to hear. Especially in the year that DT linux reached 4%. Again, much appreciated.

[@Heater-v1.0.0]

Interesting (to put it politely) to see that after quarter of a century still nobody can get sound to work on Linux. Or at least not without hours of research and effort. I used Linux exclusively from 1997 until about 8 years ago. Finally giving in to do most of my work in the Linux subsystem on Win 10. Getting sound to work was always a pain.

[@DestinationLinux]

Why do you say sound doesn’t work? Pipewire is great

[@Heater-v1.0.0]

@@DestinationLinux Actually... I was wondering what Pipewire is. Never heard of it before. Is that something that has been created since I last used desktop Linux 8 years ago? Maybe I should dig out my old PC and catch up with recent Linux. I've only been using for embedded systems for ages.

[@DestinationLinux]

@Heater-v1.0.0 Pipewire is the current audio server system that replaces PulseAudio and it also has pro level features that normally are only available with JACK. The best thing about Pipewire is that it uses the same tools that work with pulse and JACK, it’s a drop in replacement that adds a ton of awesomeness. Pipewire is also built in a way that the piping system can also be used for video streams not just audio. It’s been around for about 3-4 years now.

[@Heater-v1.0.0]

@@DestinationLinux Great. I'm inspired to try it. Thanks.

[@kneekoo]

43:27 Linux has LUGs and BSD has BUGs. Oh, wait... 🤔

[@MsDuketown]

A hall is not a corridor; hall is the main portal. Like an indoor transferium. And similar to were Petrus is guarding the Gate to Heaven. The hallway is behind the door. I'd say Erasmus is the closest approach since Baruch Espinoza. But more modern, with Academics and age minimum to receive state sponsored schooling, and after Calvijn. Good luck, doing the philosophy. Note that a digisoof isn't a philosopher. lol, back at the Batavians and studying Tacitus. The geography sciences didn't really change. Only big companies like shell used radar and lidar to find minerals.

[@jakobw135]

What desktop hardware, (CPU and GPU), is recommended to best run Linux?

[@DestinationLinux]

Well it depends, do you already have hardware and if so what do you have? If not then it depends on what you are wanting to do on the computer

[@jakobw135]

@@DestinationLinux I'm asking about the two generally available manufacturers: AMD and Intel. In particular, an all AMD Radeon system, or Intel Nvidia

[@3rdclassanimator]

Hello i need help in mx linex After installation mx linex after that I restart the pc When I on the pc it is asking to re install again,like that i reinstall 4 times and i got this error Can anyone help me

[@DestinationLinux]

sounds like it isnt prompting you to remove the install media before reboot. Try shutting down the machine rather than rebooting, remove the install media usb drive and then try powering it on again. If this doesnt work then I recommend contacting the MX Linux team on their forum at forum.mxlinux.org/ - Michael

[@FilipiVianna]

7 to one??!! Come on!! ... That's is something that must be forgoten... ;-)

[@DestinationLinux]

I play Rocket League and it’s part of the meta when you beat someone with that score, Brazil’in them 😁🤷‍♂️ - Michael

[@IsaqueGaldino]

With a lot of things to remember from Brazil and you mention 7x1??? Come on!

[@newsofthenerd]

Wow linux an entire unix operating system created by Linus, this is news to me. A little revionist history going on here. I thought linux was a kernel only. Today I learned that Maddog chose the linux operating sysyem over the bsd operating system and Linus made that happen. Amazing he wrote the GNU compiler and everything. Who's that Richard guy? He's no one.

[@cornjulio4033]

I respect that man, but the interview was kiiinda boring, tbh