INTJ Male - INTJ Female Interaction: Discussing Ni

[@jlann8243]

Omg that is so intj very little intro and right to business. I love it.

[@big4skol83]

I love INTJ, INTP, ENTJ, and ENTP females because they’re smart, pretty, strong, and independent. I also love how serious and mature they tend to be. They’re also unique and rare gems. I say all of this as an ENTJ male.

[@ashwinp5518]

Since INTJs don't have the benefit of Si or Ti to help us figure out how we formulated our theories, we have to use Te and Se to test them to see if they're true. I think part of the reason I have difficulty with conversations initially is because introductory questions often lack specificity. I can't figure what the "right" reference frame to adopt would be so I have trouble coming up with an answer.

[@libraryofthemind]

lol! I enjoyed your comment! I'm an ENFP I sometimes miss the "right" reference frame to adopt during introductory questions but instead of sitting back and thinking about it.. I usually just talk without thinking at all and just hope my verbal-intuitive-reflexes kick in to hit the "right" reference frame... I've caught myself many times mid-sentence or post-conversation realizing I was responding or talking in the "wrong" reference frame OR I notice the other person was responding to the "wrong" frame and see their lack of understanding or the gap between two people's understanding of an interaction or situation. Actually, most the time, I begin a sentence, and mid sentence, I change the ending of the sentence to suit the reference frame that I've only noticed just after launching my first word. Surprisingly my sentences mostly come out right in context, sometimes profoundly in context, despite starting without any context at all. lol... This makes me wonder if I'm even the one that's really speaking or is it my unconscious mind... Anyway I hope you're having a nice day!

[@notionSlave]

ye ur a sensor

[@1jediwitch]

*#INTJ**-A here, yes, we use our subconscious to make our way through this difficult, & sometimes harsh world.*

[@Sarcasmtomasksadness]

Ashwin P this is so true and then you get confused with the specifics on what your talking about because you want to be sure so you ask the person again and you already have in mind the right answer but you want to be sure on what your talking about in order to respond and have it make sense and purpose

[@sabenak3768]

Smiley intjs :) i thought i was the only smiley intj. I was very confused about typing myself for being smiley and having soft looking exterior. That started recently( early 20's). I was very stereotypical intj till i was about 18 but recently i doubt my personality type as infj, intp or even infp sometimes.

[@usercanalviejo2]

Nope. Happens the same to me. Usually I'm serious but when I am in a situation that Im comfortable with I smile a lot all the time, and therefore I mystiped myself for ENFP for a long time

[@JuanGonzalez-vz9wb]

That's it, happened here too

[@smithaphilip5020]

it may be a nervous reaction from being an introvert and starting a conversation.

[@Quetzalcoatl-Dragon_97]

I can never win an argument with my INTP, because I'm an Ni user that has no concrete memory of the past, and he thinks that I'm stupid for saying, that I "remember by the feeling I had," when certain events went down.

[@tylernelson9039]

Old comment, but I’m best friends with an INTP too and can totally relate with your struggle. Hope you’re still Hanging in there lol

[@Sarcasmtomasksadness]

Alex Hernandez it’s kinda like having this gut feeling about an experience that only you had so no one believes you because for them it’s not real

[@gdolphy]

Explain then that the feeling is a set of internal outcomes that for you is treating the details of the event like a black box. You've collected data coming out but did not or do not have the capacity to collect data going in. You understand that is not the best method but would challenge his or her cognitive ability to reverse engineer the process. Especially if they do have a solid data set of the event in question. Your job at that point is to breakdown your feelings into simple forms first then build up to the complex. Accept that they are likely not going to relate or find those feelings relevant or acceptable to the situation. The objective is not the feelings but for them to deduce how you got there. Dear not try to be right since you dont have sufficient data. This is a quest for mutual benefit. - INTJ that has learned to activate other functions.

[@ddoyle3856]

to female INTJ...i am also female INTJ & yeah have exactly same thing like you. like i will arrive at some result about something but then later totally forget why i thought that (the details of how i got there). but i do know that if i concluded something at one point then i can count on it bc i am sure i had a good & logical basis to do so at the time, otherwise i would not conclude it. So i've generally learned to trust the result even if i don't remember why & that has served well. (& sometimes later i'll start to remember more details of why i thought something)

[@maryrfln]

I am an Ni dominant but I recall details of experiences that struck me on an emotional level. Otherwise, not really. I usually dismiss my theories on many things because they spring out of nowhere and naturally, people want explanations. Also, I don't know if it's just me but I find small talk harder to do than deep talk. I would find conversations about the weather harder to do than conversations about feelings. I have a lot of hunches that I confirm to be true before sharing it with anyone. I am also the type of person who prefers to focus on one thing instead of considering multiple possibilities. I also base my decision-making on intuition, which has something to do with the subconscious patterns that I observe.

[@myrtila]

I’m 3 years late but I finally found out I’m an intj. It took me soooo long to figure myself out. I could not fit in any type based on the online tests until i looked into the cognitive functions. Then it became crystal clear.

[@Van-hb4gi]

I love these two. I could watch them for hours...

[@grumpyschnauzer]

Conceptualizing of theories is spot on!!! This is why I struggle presenting cases in therapy. I know the concept and the underlying issues but it would be hard to tell people how I got there. This frustrates my Supervisor. It’s also difficult to communicate details that he as a Sensor wants but I keep communicating broad concepts. This has caused him respond to me in a condescending manner and took others telling me that he was being this way before I was able to see it. Now looking at the pattern of his response I can calculate what I say in real time to better respond and stand up for myself. Before I could not respond in real time because I didn’t know what was happening.

[@chrisw9122]

I love this video. Hearing other INTJs talk is refreshing. 💫

[@kathymcdaniel9032]

Hilarious, because the nervousness is palpable at the beginning! 😂

[@AntonyReed]

Ni seem to me to rely heavily on the subconscious, which takes in all the details of our conscious perception and crunches the data to then spit it back into our conscious mind. It does this as a constant flow, like a dance of data back and forth.

[@videosformyfamilies]

gosh I love this conversation. you Nis are so mysterious:)

[@samwashere2010]

I hate it when I come to an interpersonal conclusion and someone asks me to explain what happened to make me think it of the person. I really have to think about it in order to give an example, but I am also rarely wrong in my reading of people's traits and intentions. I despise essays for this same inability to know specifically where I got a piece of information from. I just synthesise it all together and produce something. It's infuriating, especially when communicating with sensors, as I can't give them concrete examples.

[@neginsoleimani2038]

Based on all i read about intjs,i thought they're so cold and as enfp don't like that in general ,but it's not trueeeee,i fell in love with intjs

[@rocketassistedgoat1079]

I'm an INTJ, and my emotions are very strong [Fi child]; they just tend to come later. Also, we're the 3rd type most prone to limerence [ENFP are forth], behind only; INTJ and INFP. And yes, I adore my ENFPs:-)

[@mrainheart5423]

I feel understood 😢

[@77Night77Shade77]

A very blurry INTJ, that one.

[@KevinShamisen]

Thank u for this Alex, always an enjoy to watch u.

[@CasualCognition]

INTJ: Thanks! :)

[@kathymcdaniel9032]

These 2 are difficult for me to follow for a few reasons: 1. This is not aesthetically pleasing. 2. They talk too slow, because when an INTJ is trying to tell what they're processing while they're processing it takes forever and it comes out as gibberish.

[@user-lu4fn9pe4y]

Lol I was predicting that some viewers will feel/think what u have internalised and said.

[@TheIronWord]

Im an intj and im following them. as an intj when you explain something there are strings of other types of relevant information that in our mind makes sense but to someone who is lietening we sound fucking nuts.

[@candymax2065]

There is a weird struggle between my functions. I think I have a hard time incorporating them and making them work together because apparently I am more of a turbulent INTJ type. My mind almost never rests and tries to optimize all the time. And if I feel comfortable for too long I start to think I am missing something and get paranoid that this specific puzzle piece is gonna get me in the long run. This weirdly happens when my Fi and SE are at a high, and less when Ni and Te are active and working dominantly as they should. But even with the Ni and Te dominating my persona can be tricky, the Te logic would tell me to , for example, socialize with this boss and interact with them, but Ni knows this person is not someone I would work with well or this person is not truthful towards me so it would reject the interaction. And then I find out that I was right, this person was screwing me over but maybe if I tried to suck up to them like Te said to do I would have gotten a better deal. Its super specific what I am saying , its just what I am going through right now. its also very noisy around me and hard to conceptualize my next step, I also kinda hate that it takes time to recover from this type of situations, oh well. And I am sometimes not sure if knowing what people want to do or their intentions gets me more screwed over or if it actually helps me buff their blows in the long run. An I really running a contingency plan, or i am activating their bad intentions by bringing them out in the open? or in this case distancing myself from this person who was using me. Because you can only anticipate for so long, and coping mechanisms run slowly for INTJ. Blocking blows takes time for us and once people find an opening they usually use it to hurt you if they don't have a personal connection to you. So, to distance from dickish people in power or not to distance ? Always a dilemma for us, and why we work best alone.

[@deeb.9250]

candy max20 if your preference is SE and Fi first, you're isfp. An Intj will always lead with Ni

[@lavapeakbengals7723]

It’s like watching a young version of myself. I wish I’d have known myself so well at that age.

[@winterperson666]

You describe us 100%

[@ddoyle3856]

YES TRUST YOUR GUT. i've also learned to do this more over time!! i didn't know this was anything to do with INTJ. maybe that just applies to all humans? or do you think the IN gives us a stronger gut instinct/hunches?

[@mindabobis]

INTJ -INTJ I don't know. I don't really agree on the uses of the INTJ cognitive functions discussed . With me when NI is triggered, SE, SI, TI and TE are also and triggered. After some time processing introvertedly these events happening in the moment, I feel the urge to communicate my response to these triggers directly to an individual whom I've concluded without a doubt to be the initiator of the triggers awakened in me with a Judging statement incorporated. Without any hesitation whatsoever, I can be very sure whom to connect with to say what I think about the triggers

[@user-lu4fn9pe4y]

Me: mom close the door, please. Never said, never.

[@reed-all-about-it]

YES Alex! Ni Is very much in tune with the subconscious mind. I don't believe Ni works without it. Are you familiar with NLP or Ericksonian hypnosis?

[@gray4551]

This is interesting ; ) I am an INTJ

[@Xereszone]

I noticed that our long-term memory is always related to our feelings if it is something that doesn't relate to us on a personal level, is it not something worth remembering haha.

[@ChromaticTempest]

This is hilarious. It's like if Ni and Te could be seen talking to one another, and it's a very messy affair!

[@amy-avnas]

So I've been typed as an INTJ but I don't agree with half these things their talking about that are INTJ...either that or I'm not an INTJ at all (though I really think I am) or I'm an odd ball INTJ. See...going back to them discussing memories I have pretty darn good recall on memories. Though a lot of them are pulling out a photo album. Vague feelings linked to Gif like picture/memories. my earliest memories goes back to when I was around 1 year old and include the layout of the house and my nursery I lived in at the time, while only a few are of particular events. I seem to tend to remember layout of spaces I've been too and the feelings associated with that visit to that particular space, more than actual events. That's how memories work for me... Going onto the topic of conversation I can be awkward yes. I hate small talk and if someone tries to engage me in small talk I will both get bored VERY quickly and also not know or want to keep the conversation going. If someone gets me engage in a topic like politics, religion, history, science I could talk to them for hours discussing the various topics in depth...but small talk bores me SO MUCH!

[@douglas50m]

What the heck are they talking about?

[@JDMimeTHEFIRST]

When you finally meet another INTJ alien 😁🤓

[@diyalectic52]

How do you tell apart an INTJ and an INFJ? As some INTJ's have developed their PoLR Fe or some INFJ's developed their PoLR Te, so they can look alike in that regard x_x

[@Sarcasmtomasksadness]

Infj from my experience are more openly sensitive and reactive to things on the surface. If you tell them something they will react even just with facial expression. They are also more concerned with how people feel in a situation where’s intj is concerned with the overall truth and justice of the matter

[@arcadianfox8127]

Random: "Hey, how do you think humanity as a race can progress effectively?" INTJ: "First we..." (goes on for a while) Random: "Hey, what's your birth date?" INTJ: "Eeeeeeeeeeh"

[@cookiecaramel6187]

The male INTJ obviously dominates the conversation, maybe that's why she's so uncomfortable and her being uncomfortable makes her being awkward.

[@SplitTonguedSeer]

@BoxCrossed wrong

[@SplitTonguedSeer]

no shes just not an intj

[@SplitTonguedSeer]

theyre both a little giggly and nervous for INTJ

[@nataliegrayhandle]

I’m giggly and nervous and I’m INTJ

[@heya2423]

It's normal , we not very stoned when we get to talk we are nervous and could have anxiety as well lol

[@kritsaphongphuthibpaphaisi1509]

Next time NE vs. NE plz

[@merie8265]

I'm ENFP and I find ENFP tooo predictable and boring....I see through.my type....there's nothing left to.explore

[@seamushowling572]

What hella corner of the internet is this?

[@usefulbobcat]

Welcome to the magic of the world

[@usefulbobcat]

Since as far as I know Harry Potter magic doesn't exist yet this is the closest you will get to something like that

[@ddoyle3856]

reductionist

[@artisticstateofmind]

Awkwardly

[@kustom13rods]

She is too EMOTIONAL TO BE AN INTJ!!

[@diyalectic52]

People's functions develop differently. Then there's the effect of the nurture aspect of life. Also, INTJ's 8th function (the function we admire greatly in our Supervisor type) is Fe. They usually reach a stage where they try to cultivate what they see as a more open and compassionate disposition - which is not fake at all and takes lots of time to reach that stage. They can will look and converse in a more warm and friendly as a result, while maintaining that dreamy yet sturdy and honest INTJness. It's tapping into the shadow/dark side - basically, a form of self-administered psychotherapy. Very healthy to do. So... A warm INTJ is a developing/developed INTJ. -INTP

[@tylernelson9039]

Morella Your comment has me feeling a lot better about my own recent development. I’d been struggling if opening myself up more was just a facade to acting how I internally really admire in a person. Like a battle between wondering if I’m just playing the part or integrating it naturally into my personality. Glad to know it’s viewed more as healthy than self-deprecating. You’re doing a justice for all us INTJs in need of validation for our own self-improvement! Thank you.

[@kustom13rods]

WTF!!!

[@AO-pn2uo]

Dafuq

[@min1048]

This is not created for INTJ. So boring.