Ustaše: Too Extreme Even for Hitler

[@thegreatpugtato1823]

Thank you for bringing this to us Simon and Co. It's important not to let the smaller countries and peoples who suffered in WWII be forgotten.

[@keryeeastin4022]

Well said ❤

[@stevecameron1879]

This wasn't forgotten. There are many history books covering it. I guess you get all your history from the Internet

[@thegreatpugtato1823]

I can't read every book existence mate. I have a bachelor's degree (from Olivet university formally olivet college) in History but my specifics are in ancient history not ww2.

[@merky890]

@@thegreatpugtato1823 U can't, but if u just watch videos and concoude based of videos content Your source of information will be 10% accurate and 90% false History is tricky and needs time snd different POV to make conclusion. Not just watching random video.

[@Alias_Anybody]

Every other Axis power and ally after WW2: Please look at Germany a little longer, there's absolutely certainly nothing to see around here.

[@heavyartillery-qm5hu]

The Soviets as well.

[@scifino1]

If anyone hasn't had enough of that yet, I recommend they look up "Unit 731".

[@Alias_Anybody]

@@heavyartillery-qm5hu I mean even the French didn't want too much attention on the collaborateurs and the Americans didn't appreciate you questioning the strategic value of the nukes.

[@wolfcat1998]

​@Alias_Anybody or all those new government scientists with the funny accents.

[@Alias_Anybody]

@@wolfcat1998 There's only one rule about paperclips: You don't talk about them.

[@jaylol7226]

I am always glad to see people talking about this brutal piece of history that, in my experience, nobody really seems to know about. I think the Ustaše horrors should not be forgotten.

[@promeneuzivotu117]

Yeah agreed.

[@nerdslapper9361]

And it is not.

[@lemaicdjordje4705]

only my grandmother and my father survived the slaughter... whole family tree gone! forgive yes but never forget....

[@howlingwolf644]

If anyone knew about Bleiburg and what Tito and partizans (in colaboration with brittish forces) did after the war ended no one would be talking about this...

[@lemaicdjordje4705]

@@howlingwolf644 please dont compare bleiburg with crimes committed by ustashe! concentration camps , children concentration camp, hundreds of caves filled with innocent victims! we are talking of 500 000 killed Serbs Jews and Roma persons!! brute but still justice was served!

[@hendersongalbreath1072]

In before the comments turn into a Balkan nightmare.

[@luckisluck]

Youre too late.

[@MasterShake]

This is mild compared to any video relating to serbia lmao.

[@bluewinterwolf]

Or a bad day in Bosnia

[@lptotheskull]

"Oh come on, surely it can't be that bad-" GUYS IT'S THAT BAD

[@hendersongalbreath1072]

@lptotheskull /turbofolk intensifies

[@marianneslade3296]

My father was 11 when the troops came into his village and destroyed his family. He was also a partisan fighting the Utase. The horror stories we grew up hearing. Thank you for this. He would be proud to know that part of his story is being told.

[@thatmombielife]

So sad. ❤️‍🩹 prayers

[@MMChoza]

My grandfather was part of the partizan liberation army and the few stories I remember (I was 5 when he died but I remember some small parts) were horrible. Ustase came first to the villages and forced people to fight for them but he refused to. Only when partisans came and told they are trying to fight ustase, he told them from the 2 evils of war he will choose the lesser one (at the time)

[@rogerhudson9732]

​@@MMChoza No country started with hands dripping in blood can survive for long, applied to post-'45 Jugoslavija as much as the NDH.

[@TheDigitalApple]

Fun fact: Despite how much Ante Pacelić voiced his antisemitism, his wife Maria was actually half Jewish…how ironic.

[@NickyBlue99]

You can't be half Jewish. It's either all or nothing.

[@Pixietitz]

Maybe she was another self loathing jew lol one of my ex's , his family were involved with running those camps. When I found out, knowing my own great grandmother fled Europe because of the persecution of her people... I felt very uneasy in that relationship. It wasn't the only deciding factor into why I left, but it sure did add to the reasons why I left 😅

[@seanbigay1042]

Same as H.P. Lovecraft's wife.

[@jackstraw262]

Half Jewish = goy to Jews if it was the wrong half

[@nb7466]

Trump hates immigrants. His wife's one. No different

[@snakebitepellehue]

I'm part German and part Croatian. I'm 100% familiar with the Holocaust and not one bit with this, because apparently the denial is astounding. Thanks for educating.

[@RPcropland]

I've seen this youtuber regurgitate propaganda, not saying he is lying intentionally, but maybe its just that.

[@dannydetonator]

@RPcropland I see you wouldn't recognise propaganda if it splattered you in the eye

[@davecopp9356]

@snakebitepellehue You are for sure not 100% familiar with anything in history back than. You just think you are because you watched a few movies and so called documentaries.

[@garymitchell5899]

Not being aware of something isn't denial. Read more books.

[@lordhumungus1386]

you can learn something more,like try learning how many lies and fabrications are out there about ustaše made up by yugoslavs and serbs. sheep.

[@davidbindis2555]

The Ustashe were also very smart. They would play the Axis powers against each other. They would spread rumours among the Nazis that Italian soldiers were seen walking with Jewis women. They would sew chaos just so they could have more autonomy among the Axis.

[@fpsserbia6570]

Well Italy wanted almost half of Croatia, so there is the reason

[@b-art6098]

They were not "smart", they were butchers.

[@lordhumungus1386]

ustaše had in plan liberation of croatian parts that were under fascists occupation but italy capitulated soon enough.

[@lCountMike]

@@fpsserbia6570 They just wanted it back as they controlled it for several thousands of years since Roman times.

[@szakachdekapolna4372]

My grandpa was president of Ustaša youth in school.

[@crnabetty5891]

As a Croatian,thank you for showing monsters that some patriots think we should respect...added note:you need someone from Balkans to teach you pronaunciations

[@milat4351]

this has been proven to be cheap serbian communist propaganda to discredit any future croat state this theory was popularized during the croatian homeland war, crimes did happend of course but not as described

[@casinodelonge]

He's not great at pronunciation to be fair.

[@Pixietitz]

Croatian names in general are pretty hard to pronounce the correct way as an English speaker. I knew a lot of croatians where I'm originally from & it took me longer than usual to get words right in their language.

[@DenofLore]

He’s British. Unless the place he’s covering has shit food or expensive spices he doesn’t care.

[@crnabetty5891]

@@Pixietitz most of our names end with ć. Thats a [ch] sound.Names are not that difficult.Also Jasenovac does not make a [dj] but I do understand that no one gave him the proununciation guideline. UstašE,not Ustašy.So,E as in lemonade. He lives two countries from us.We are all slavs,we speak very simmilar.

[@gailkarran3395]

I visited Croatia, Bosnia and Montenegro 3 years ago. That pain is still raw.

[@tomcwenkala8718]

A friend served in Bosnia. The guys he was imbedded with went into a cemetery and started digging. He figured they were uncovering an arms cache. They broke open the coffin and urinated into. Corpse was on the wrong side in WWII.

[@ficalino7294]

That pain there is not due to WW2, but due to atrocities commited by Serbs in breakup of Yugoslavia.

[@oofoof1206]

@@ficalino7294good one American, in montenegro there is 0 pain, in croatia and bosnia there is pain from all 3 sides, because it wasnt the devil serbs vs saint croatians and saint bosniaks, it was a free for all to seize more land

[@Kenji-117]

Montenegrian here. My mothers family (grandparents and uncles/aunts) lived in kosovo since the 70s and my mother was raised and went to school there. In 2001 my grampa refused to leave kosovo behind to escape with all my family from the serbian radical čedniks and was therefore rounded up with all my uncles who were still living there to stand next to a wall. The serbian čedniks shot him in the head and then forced my uncle Kajo who was 12y.o at that time to take a pistol barrel into his mouth to scare him with a near-death experience. This incident traumatized him severly back then and he never fully recovered. Thank god my mom already lived here in germany at that time because she emigrated just like most of my family. All of this happened only because we were muslims and despite being of slavic blood.

[@oofoof1206]

@@Kenji-117 četniks in 2001? You sure it wasnt the remenants of the UCK that learned you were montenegrin and not albanian, the UCK still made chaos in the KFOR regions, even shot a bulgarian civilian because he was not an Albanian and they assumed he was Serbian

[@kn1ght_ch3f78]

This and the Rape of Nanking. Insane.

[@simonkevnorris]

I think you could add Katyn Forrest as well. The Soviets killed around 22k of Polish Officers and leaders. The Soviets blamed the Germans but the truth was revealed as part of the break up of the Soviet Union.

[@Nick-rs5if]

@@simonkevnorris There's also those minor, tiiiny little events known as Dekulakization and Holodomor... How the general public isn't taught about this in school is beyond me. Stalin killed more people than Hitler did, and under just as horrendous conditions. Granted, Stalin did live a bit longer, but that really isn't an excuse.

[@67marlins]

​@@Nick-rs5if Good points. It's illogical that coward apologists pretend stalin wasn't worse than Hitler.

[@chemistryofquestionablequa6252]

​@@Nick-rs5if they're not taught them because our educated system is run by communists. They wouldn't teach anything that makes them look bad.

[@chemistryofquestionablequa6252]

​@@Nick-rs5ifour education system is run by communists, they're not going to teach anything that makes them look bad.

[@jokodihaynes419]

"Would I rather be loved or feared easy both I want people to be afraid of how much they loved me"-Michael Scott the office

[@Ivarevich]

I always thought a dark comedy about a middle east dictator with Michael Scott's personality would be great.

[@lillystern]

​@@IvarevichI'm watching!

[@Ivarevich]

@@lillystern I just imagine him on trial for war crimes and he's making crude jokes. . . "We have HARD evidence that your regime used white phosphorus against civilians..." "That's what she said..."

[@frausteiner8615]

One of the worst aspects of how we teach about fascism is that we only teach the crimes of Nazi Germany. This makes people think that the Holocaust was a one-off thing that just happened because the Nazis were that unique. But almost every time a country has gone fascist, the result has been war crimes on a mass level. Japan, Croatia, Spain, Italy, Brazil, Chile, it's always been a disaster. People need to learn about the fascist governments of those countries too.

[@Desert_Rogue_Tanker]

It's also a left wing ideology.it just happens to be right of Marx,but not right wing like everyone has been indoctrinated to believe.

[@Moravienis_dynasty4543]

​@@Desert_Rogue_Tankerhere we go again with the Political Compass. You know how much I'd call that thing a Myth? VERY MUCH. It is Centrist issue much like every single concept of our time and History. The my methodics of N_zism do not come close to Right Wing or Left Wing for that matter. They use the Right Wing methodic of race superiority in survival while adopting Left Wing's methodic by being equal in race. Take it or leave.

[@draco9513]

Why does that really matter? Hitler is still a bad person.

[@JustAnotherYouTubeCommenter]

@@Desert_Rogue_Tanker bro actually called fascism a left wing ideology 💀

[@END-S]

​​@@Desert_Rogue_Tanker This is just objectively untrue, it's common knowledge that the Nazis were far right, they were an ultra conservative party. You're really showcasing your ignorance here. This is the same bs as idiots on the far right pretending that neoliberals are left wing. Seriously like man we're living in a post truth era here, don't be a fool

[@casinodelonge]

The Balkans, the gift that just keeps on giving.

[@paulgoodridge2269]

@@casinodelonge also the Balkans. We hate each other just as much as we hate outsiders.

[@simonriley4131]

The Balkans was also the place of the partisan movement, a multi-ethnic and progressive mass movement and also the most efficient resistance and guerilla movement in all of World War Two that managed to defeat the Germans, Italians, Bulgarians, četniks and the ustaše all with little help from the west. That doesn't fit your condescending narrative of the Balkans as crazy rednecks constantly slaughtering each other, though

[@thebatchicle3429]

@@simonriley4131the partisans then won, united the Balkans… and then they all started killing themselves again in the 90s :)

[@Kenji-117]

​@@simonriley4131yep the balkanian partisans were the vietcongs of the west. They didnt let anyone invade and take over their home in the past century

[@lCountMike]

@@simonriley4131 Not more and even less than lest of Europe, Just look at history of Britain, France Germany, Italy, Spain and others, Check out how many civil wars were in Britain, much more than in Balkans.

[@karlotolic8523]

As a croatian thanks for picking up the topic. It's still far to unknown here and in europe

[@phreak2day]

What do you mean? It's standard material in elementary schools in Croatia. Unless you're living outside of Croatia this is really common knowledge

[@solvingpolitics3172]

Um, I think you mean he was born in “1889” not 1989😂

[@BenjaminEaster-b8b]

What a scrupulously examinating optical eye you possess ❤

[@PuffyPaulie]

Look.... Time travel

[@jmace2424]

Time traveler. 😂

[@solvingpolitics3172]

Well maybe he was a time traveler. Best known for saying: “I’ll be back.” Kind of like King Tut played by Steve Martin. “ Born in Arizona, moved to Babalona.”

[@_Ben___]

Simon would never mispronounce dates in order to drum up correction comments

[@nwvfd22]

I've been waiting for an Ustase breakdown since the Warographics Yugoslavia video. Finally we get that piece. Thank you Whistlerverse writer Olivier for going at it!

[@gurururuwarararara8164]

Someday, somehow, I'm gonna catalogue every one of this guys numerous channels. Gotta be at least 20 by this point

[@ComaDave]

In addition to Spain and Argentina, many of them escaped Down Under. It was fairly common local knowledge in the 1970's that many of them were still living only a couple of suburbs from me.

[@clairegaspersic2182]

My grandfather moved to Aus in 1945 after everything that happened in Yugoslavia

[@MrBjanders]

Simon always knows how to get me into the Christmas spirit 🎄

[@Xanthippaa]

In the early-mid 1980s in Canada, I met one of thee guys, hiding out here in Canada (I was just a kid then). I don't know why, but he took me into his confidence, showed me photos, scared the **** out of me. Did not share any of this with his own wife and kids...

[@CharlieTheAstronaut]

A uncommonly level headed and unbiased account of Balkans history. Thank you.

[@iztokcvetko3669]

When we lived in Yugoslavia and were in school, they took us to see Jasenovac. We had a history day in the 7th grade of elementary school.

[@alleks1989]

Thanks for putting some light on this topic, Fact Boy! My grandma and her 2 siblings were taken by Ustaše and placed into "re-education camp". they were the only ones to survive, from the family of 11. The other grandma had her whole village forced into the Orthodox church and burned alive. Dozens of her family members perished, four of them were not in the village at the time. Some estimates state that about 700 000 Serbians were killed in Croatia during WW2. None of it was addressed after the war to keep the peace between the nations and unfortunately it bubbled back up 50 years later. Again, we didn't learn anything and it will happen again. "Balkan" is not a geographic term, it's a diagnosis.

[@thatmombielife]

That’s so so sad.

[@hapobelle]

I remember a friend telling me that his grandparents told his mother who was around five years old while WW2 that Ustaše gathered all Serbs from a village aroung Pakrac in Orthodox church and burned the church with people in the church.Grandparents were Czech ethnicity and they made a comment to friend's mother : "Serbs will never forgive them."

[@ashishjoshi8148]

In a war littered with some of history's worst figures, known for their barbarity and brutal human rights abuses, the Ustashe were easily the worst.

[@Rondigity92]

Imperial Japan was pretty darn close... crazy to think that the Nazis weren't the worst regimes. They just happened to attack a country people cared more about in France and Britain

[@InquisitorXarius]

@@Rondigity92 Its just Japan, not Imperial Japan. I do not see the two as any different given their genocide denial and honoring of war criminals.

[@RobertHosein]

Idk if I would say "easily" the worst. They certainly were among the worst but id say the Nazi regime was the worst. The Ustashe was inspired by Hitler's policies. Adolf Hitler and Nazi Germany also did start world War 2, the most destructive and genocidal war in human history,

[@gabrieljordan8015]

I still think 'Unit 751' holds the record for WW2 brutality.

[@themidnightbanshee5927]

I feel like this was skipped over in the history books

[@oofoof1206]

Because Croatia defected to America, if it maintained autonomous then there will be several history books about it in school to make you fear and despise croats, like the serbs and russians today

[@petergriffin680]

Absolutely

[@phreak2day]

Actually it's not skipped, and it's part of the elementary school curriculum, both in Yugoslavia and modern day Croatia. Croatians are fully familiar with what happened, there just seems to be a perception among foreigners that the Ustaše are some sort of "secret". But they're really not, Yugoslavian cinema was full to the brim with war movies where the Partizans fought against the Nazis and Ustaše and defeated them. It was an integral part of the Yugoslavian identity. Modern day Croatia also has nothing to do with the Ustaše nor NDH since Croatians fought to bring them both down.

[@themidnightbanshee5927]

Well I didn't pay much attention in history class so I blame myself for not knowing. Only recently did I take interest in history cause of the many channels that have presented it in an entertaining way

[@phreak2day]

Yup, when we're young we perceive history to be dull, dry and boring, but it's actually quite facinating

[@Samsung-1.9Cu.Ft.Microwave]

Intrestingly enough, the minor axis nations seemed to be more inclined to be ruthless and violent in their quest to purify their nations than the N@zis were. Both Croatia and Romania were told by Germany to ease up on their brutality.

[@froglifes6829]

If you would care about history you would realize that narrative is german propaganda

[@promeneuzivotu117]

The Axis partnership was just an excuse to fufill their own goals.

[@simonriley4131]

Because they had a wholly different approach to their antisemitism and racism. The Germans viewed their atrocities in a way a surgeon views a procedure to remove a tumor. It's nasty business, it's not nice to cut up another human being, but in the end it's for a good cause and has to be done. However, the Ustaše reveled in their violence, they truly enjoyed it. The Nazis had a very utilitarian view on violence and tried to paint themselves above the violence they perpetrated, while the Ustaše were treating it for what it truly was, senseless depravity. I don't think one movement is "better" or "worse" than the other, I just find one radically more honest

[@mejuliie]

@@simonriley4131 The reason why people think of it that way is only when they aren't educated enough about how brutal the Nazis really were. Sure, the Nazis were efficient and organized in their efforts to kill as many people of religions, ethnicities, and those with opposing views, but the violence wasn't seen as utilitarian. Violence was encouraged, as it further dehumanized the people Nazis saw as inferior. Speaks to how many countries gloss over the truly horrific and violent things, when teaching children. I'm from Austria, and thankfully it is different here and we are exposed to the actual horrors that were committed.

[@dhjarta]

Thank you for this video! Many channels talking about WW2 leave out this horrible part of history. This was a genocide that no one was punished for...

[@Jen39x]

Except they seemed to be doing quite a job against punishing each other in the 90’s

[@dhjarta]

@@Jen39x While the wars in the 90s were partially a consequence of the unresolved matters from WW2, most people who were directly responsible for Jasenovac never went to trial for their crimes.

[@ladyjane8023]

God sees everything

[@nerdslapper9361]

@@ladyjane8023 Shame he doesn't do anything about it. Funny how your fairy tales work, right?

[@ladyjane8023]

@@nerdslapper9361 Funny how you don't understand that God' s will is not reflected on earth. If it were the way you think it would never be wars. P.S how Pavelic ended his life?

[@artgreig7069]

We suck as a species

[@benjaminollis]

We cannot fix ourselves, trying only leads to atrocities..

[@wolfcat1998]

We suck as a genus. Makes me ashamed to call myself Homo.

[@daveanderson3805]

It's because we're predators. We didn't get to be at the top of the chain by being nice

[@milanmaletic3997]

@@benjaminollis You, Sir, have won the Edgiest Comment Of The Day Prize. As something of an edgelord myself, I salute you! o7

[@Kinzarr4ever]

I understand the despair and frustration, I've felt it many times myself. But despite the depths humanity can sink to, I like to remind myself the heights can be pretty impressive too. For every Pacelić, there's an Oskar Schindler, somewhere, just to name an example

[@Zireal85]

I was just watching world war 2 documentaries today. Excellent timing for this release, more information for me to binge watch

[@lCountMike]

Much of documentation including filming was destroyed or hidden after WWII in order to propagate "Fraternity and unification" in Communist Yugoslavia. Being Yugoslav was much more preferred over ethnicity. Btw, Jasenovac and many other monuments to Ustashe atrocities were built with grants from USA.

[@boboman67]

I worked at a place with a Montenegroian, Serbian and Croatian collauges, one day the Serb and the Croat had a dispute, the Serb called the Croat an Ustaše, oh boy they where about to rip each others heads off, we had to intervene, god thanks they settled down and became friends again later that day (Funny was that the Serb told us never to really thrust a Montenegrian, then as he said “They fell on us in the back on the blackthorn plain” (the Montenegroians gathered the Turkish army against the Serbs) but come on that was in 1389 so long ago, but not even that was forgotten, so Ustaše soldiers cruelty is probally still not forgotten.

[@C12341]

I had a similar experience working with Albanians and Serbs. They were all great people individually but if they were around each other too long it would sometimes get heated.

[@partygrove5321]

Don't forget the Ustashi's close ties with the Vatican.

[@superiorshotgun4348]

So they were the good guys

[@Tomislav.Antunovic]

​@@superiorshotgun4348 Neither of them were ever the good guys ;)

[@devinreis5811]

That is highly debated. The Bishop of Zagreb actually spoke up about what was going on, and as a result, the Ustashe joined the plot to assassinate Pope Pius XII.

[@brent123456yo]

Based

[@Notyourbusinessbye]

Propaganda, you cannot tie the actions of some monsters who called themselves religious to the whole organisation

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

"The rooting out of standard Croatian lasted until the creation of the Banate of Croatia in 1939. Then the Croatian terminology was largely restored, and especially with the creation of the Independent State of Croatia." (Težak-Babić, A Grammar of the Croatian Language, p 16)

[@Jeza921]

The debate over the Ustaše’s legacy is contentious. Some political groups in Croatia still use Ustaše symbols, which often leads to tensions with other nations in the region and within Croatia itself, where there are ongoing efforts to address the historical trauma of their actions.

[@axel995r]

There is no debate. There is only ustasa assholes still active today because Croatia refuses to fully acknowledge the atrocities committed by these monsters during WWII and the Balkan wars of the '90ies and their state which is still allowing people to glorify WWII war criminals in this day and age who are responsible for the only death camp for children and who were too unhinged even for the Nazis, something that will get you arrested in any formerly Nazi and Nazi allied country.

[@EonArashi]

Thank you for mentioning the Partizan war crimes as well. My family got caught in this, being German descendants living along the Danube River, civilian farmers who had settled there in the 1800s. Three generations of my family died in the Partizan concentration camps. The whole Balkan region and all their powers were filled with evil, the Ustaše were just the worst of the worst.

[@promeneuzivotu117]

Yeah Tito was pretty much acting like Stalin untill 1950 when he changed his policy and angered Stalin.To this day the mass graves of those executions are being discovered.50000 people were killed for being SUSPECTED of supporting the old royalist regime in Belgrade alone!

[@lCountMike]

They died or were expelled because they were recruited in German army and fought for therm. Other than them, there were very small numbers of Germans from Germany only some higher ranking officers. Whole German contingent that massacred 3000 school boys and their teachers in Kragujevac and 5000 men, women and children in Kraljevo (both in central Serbia) were those of ethnic Germans in Vojvodina (North Serbia) and spoke Serbo-Croatian language.

[@jacobavners2394]

A chapter as tragic as it is undeservedly overlooked.

[@jamesbest9038]

“When hatred and ultranationalism are allowed to thrive unchecked” Fortunately this has not been a problem ever again.

[@pyro7358]

its not a problem

[@hifibrony]

Sarcasm, no?

[@MrJohnnyseven]

Enter forced "multiculturalism"....

[@markherd3116]

I visited Croatia (Yugoslavia) shorty before the civil War in the 1990's. In every family owned cafe or bar, there was still a picture of Marshall Tito up on the war. A testament to how important the man and his forces were.

[@falconmclenny7284]

Sad that people revere a communist, which makes you an inherently terrible person... but somehow he held this together for 50 years. Crazy.

[@CarolusVonAgram]

In Croatia and Bosnia it was a Homeland war* not a civil war

[@lCountMike]

Tito was half Croat and well on Croatian side but there are still many so called "Yugonostalgics". Tito's tomb and remembrance park are in Belgrade, Serbia and still visited every 25th of May (official Tito's birthday) by people end delegations from all over.

[@Merydeth333]

My mom still has a framed picture of Tito in her home. So does my Bosnian neighbor

[@falconmclenny7284]

@@Merydeth333 are they raging communists, or do they just revere the man because he kept the Balkans from killing each other? Genuine question.

[@jokodihaynes419]

"One would like to be both the one and the other but because it is to combine them it is far better to be feared than loved if you cannot be both"- Machiavelli

[@partygrove5321]

Fun fact, Tito was a Croat too.

[@Unpainted_Huffhines]

Half Slovene

[@aleksandarmicke1996]

And spent his youth in the Soviet Union

[@froglifes6829]

@@aleksandarmicke1996 no he did not, he was only there for a few years

[@promeneuzivotu117]

​@@froglifes6829 he contemplated of getting married and starting a life in Soviet Union but decided to leave because he whanted a cariere in the politics.

[@lCountMike]

@@aleksandarmicke1996 No, his youth he spent in Croatia, he spent few years in USSR because he was a communist and that was only place to safely be one and be educated. So did all of leaders oh later Communist countries.

[@khaosssssss1727]

Deep dive Japan all across Asia, please? I lost family all around the world it feels like. 💔💜

[@roxyndra]

I'm glad the algorithm brought me here. This is so well-put together. Subscribed~!

[@FrankGhal]

The craziest is most people have sympathy for japan and the emperor never got punished for crimes more brutal than the nazis

[@bbroeschi]

Your narration/presentation style has evolved very nicely. I enjoyed listening to you.

[@fdmaviation]

Great video, very unsettling group, never knew they existed

[@ssrzen]

The Ustase were rolled by a lot of Croatians (especially diaspora communities) post WW2 under the mindset of being. It’s some messed up stuff.

[@newsungsails3651]

I highly recommend the book by Keith Lowe “Savage Continent: Europe on the Aftermath of World War II.” It demonstrates that many countries in Europe were racked by war before and after world war 2, which was only one especially grissly act in a much broader macabre play of bloodshed. There were many civil wars and border disputes within the war, and for some the end of the bigger war was in fact the beginning of the troubles. Violence and ethnic cleansing between Ukraine and Poland, the Greek Civil War, Stalinization of Romania, ongoing bloodshed in the Balkans, and this is all happening while the infrastructure of the entire continent (and the ecosystems) had been utterly decimated by WW2. It’s a shocking and well researched book. The chapters on anti-Bolshevik resistance in the Balkans and the chapter on Greece are masterful, but the best in my opinion is “Yugoslavia: Europe in Microcosm” which if it were a stand alone essay I would consider it one of the best written on the region during that period. A lot of it is about people getting revenge not only on the Ustashe , but also many civilians whose only affiliation with the group was their ethnicity.

[@baystatejive6134]

its strange being a Croat-American and realizing that for 4 years your grandma and grandpa lived and worked, under this regime (not to support it, but to survive it, mind you). For such a small country, the level of brutality still shocks me. The Balkans in general seems to be a brutal place when armed conflicts arise, despite their small scale relative to other major world conflicts (think the wars in the 90s). It also saddens me to say the symbols of the Ustaše are everywhere, from stickers on peoples phones, to graffiti practically everywhere (in Zagreb at least), and even the Ultras from Dinamo Zagreb have sweatshirts where you have the šhavonica with the white in the upper left hand instead of red. No one seems to care, and if they do, no one speaks up much against it or does something about it, at least in my experience. It is as baffling as it is sad.

[@MorganJ]

1:14 My apologies, is it 1889? I had trouble understanding the date. It sounded like 1989 but obviously that can't be right.

[@jessovenden]

Thank you to the team for bringing us this episode. History is so important if we don’t want to it to rinse and repeat ad infinitum…

[@anthonyperno1348]

Looks like yet another 'gift' from the League of Nations. Forcing various tribes on top of one another without concern for the obvious hatred between the groups and the pending violence it was sure to create. E.g. Iraq

[@promeneuzivotu117]

Yeah Yugoslavia was a mistake.

[@Kenji-117]

Yugoslavia was only possible due to Tito. After Titos passing this dream died quick and all he stood for was brushed aside. What a shame but its just brutal reality sadly

[@gerdforster883]

The first Yugoslavia was not set up by "forcing various tribes on top of one another". It was a voluntary merger. Unfortunately, the internal politics of the new state were a shambles. That's what caused tensions, and the events of WWII caused the hatred that would rip the country apart in the 1990s. And even then, it took years of nationalist propaganda by people like Tudjman and Milosevic to actually get a war going.

[@lCountMike]

Nobody forced them to join Serbia in first Yugoslavia,they all elected to join for one reason or other. Serbia and Montenegro (which was largely considered Serbia) were only winners in Balkan after WWI. Croatia and Slovenia were so long divided and parts of Austria, Hungary and Italy that they didn't have leadership and organization for full independence so joining Yugoslavia was best and only choice for some independence. that way Croatia gained whole of Dalmatia which would regain it after Austria's loss. Bosnia was "Nobody's land" after ending of Austria's annexation and had even less possibility of becoming independent country because of large Serb population and Macedonia was largely Bulgarian so it would be part of Bulgaria and Albania, again not even apparent independence.

[@rwagingsloth9528]

For anyone wanting to take a dive into the atrocities committed in WW2 by ALL sides. i direct you to the channel "WW2" hosted by Indy Neidell (regular week by week war coverage portion) More specifically though, the "War Against Humanity" series hosted by Spartacus Olsson. Both series are arguably the msot in depth and comprehensive documentary ever made on the Second world war, and (imo) it's not even close. they do NOT shy away from pointing out the atrocities of either the allies or the axis, and the callousness expressed by those in power.

[@Maniaxx123]

Many buildings in numerous cities inside Croatia today are littered with grafittis with swastikas, and especially with Ustaše symbols.

[@Unpainted_Huffhines]

@@Maniaxx123 The grenade?

[@axel995r]

Because ultranationalism and Nazism is still very much alive and well in Croatia, seeing as how no one from the government or the state prosecution is actually doing anything to combat it, if anything they are encouraging it seeing as how it distracts the people from actually seeing how corrupt those institutions are.

[@Nightraven26]

And we in Croatia have a saying for people who draw such things - “nije bolest sve što boli” (roughly translated to “not every sickness hurts”)

[@ZeeZeeFaa]

Za Dom Spremni!

[@Nightraven26]

@@ZeeZeeFaa možda za starački dom. Također, taj ustaški pozdrav je protivan Zakonu protiv remećenja javnog reda i mira i sa sobom nosi kaznu 700-4000€ ili kaznu zatvora od 30 dana. Predlažem da maknete komentar ako ne želite prijavu MUP-u.

[@Sret-t3l]

Thank you Simon. I'm glad you created this video on the Ustaše and that you shine some light on their actions. You wouldn't believe how much denial there is on this subject in Croatia and in the world. As a Serb whose family was expelled from Croatia in the 90's, this makes me reflect on what horrible stuff happened to my people. My grandfather lost a brother to the Ustaše. They mutilated and humiliated his body. They dragged him through their home village and displayed his body for all to see. Burned their houses. Yes, there was propaganda from the Serbs side during the Yugoslav war, but a lot of those who fraught against the Ustaše were still alive like my grandparents and they remembered those atrocities. When they came to expel us and burn our villages (second time for my family), those people didn't see the Croatian army they saw the Ustaše. In the end they were able to fulfill their three-thirds policy, kill 1/3 of the Serbs, convert 1/3 of the Serbs, expel 1/3 of the Serbs.

[@harrisong3386]

I've been waiting for you to cover them

[@Merydeth333]

Bravo! Thank you for covering this!

[@Jaskol_Wazon]

War, war never changes...

[@Thephillips-dj1po]

*HOW MANY CHANNELS DOES THIS MAN OPERATE?!*

[@Daggz90]

300.000 of them were murdered by the Soviets. Despite them surrendering to the Allies. Churchill and Roosevelt just sent them back to Serbia, which is de facto a war crime. Yet they were never held accountable for this crime. This guy isn't a historian, he's a mouthpiece for the orchestrators of both world wars. He consistently leaves these kind of details out of his videos, and these details MATTER.

[@generalj216]

An early life check may prove fruitful

[@afa4727]

It's no mistake that Germany was quick to recognize the breakup of Yugoslavia. It was being committed by thier best friends in WW2. Slobo opened the door and the German Government recognized thier friends.

[@dredeth]

Finally some info on their side! So far internet was super one sided, portraying only Serbs as bad, while there is no action that was without it's cause. This was an introduction to what came in 90s, but Croats don't like this to be mentioned.

[@ivan2795]

You have no idea...

[@casinodelonge]

The Serbs were still bad mind.

[@Pixietitz]

I almost had a beating from a croat because I invited some Serbs over to a party, not knowing that their peoples hated each other. I was a wee child when their last Civil War happened in the 90s, so I had no clue they still disliked each other.

[@aleksandarmicke1996]

Their anti-Serbian politics from 1990 are never mentioned either. That whole 90s conflict is always one-sided, sadly. As a Serb I will mever deny any war crime that my people commit, but every war crime against Serbs is ignored because it was us against NATO in the end. If Serbia had been a NATO ally, it would've been a whole different story today, with Bosnians and Albanians being helped by Al Quaeda, Croatian "Storm" being a war crime, etc.

[@milanmaletic3997]

Where are you from, Delijo? For understanding historic background of the wars of the '90s, I declare you an honorary Serb! Cheers! (pours us both another Rakija)

[@israelizzyyarrashamiaak766]

I was just showing my kids an old geography book from 4th grade. My youngest said “ what is Yugoslavia mom” so we had a lesson in the reason the map changed. I love looking at old textbooks and I’m shocked at how pathetic education is today!

[@spaceghost8995]

A co-worker of mine was from Kosovo. He told me his young son who was around nine was seeing a counselor because of horrid PTSD. The boy had witnessed his neighbors and a few classmates getting their throats cut right in the street in front of the house. "Ethnic Cleansing" by Slobodan Milosevic and his Serbian thugs. This happened in 1998 I think. The scars of WW1 (and other things before that) remain . 😢

[@Poglavnit_Pferdefuhrer]

It's sad to think they probably wouldn't be so harsh if the Ustaśe hadn't done so first to their parents. Generational trauma is a hell of a drug! Just look at how messed up Haiti is

[@Thevet04]

@@Poglavnit_Pferdefuhrerthe ustase did this to the serbs . The guy is talking about the Kosovo genocide which means serbs doing it to albanians whole other ethnicity which has nothing to do with the ustase. But it’s the balkans we hate each other is tradition.

[@spaceghost8995]

@Poglavnit_Pferdefuhrer Huh? Are you talking to ME? Muslims in Kosovo had nothing to do with Croatian Catholic Ustase!

[@SerbAtheist]

@@spaceghost8995 Read up on your history. Kosovo Albanians joined the Axis and committed horrific crimes against the Serbs in WWII.

[@Poglavnit_Pferdefuhrer]

I'm saying that Serbian raiders in the 90s "learned" much of that behaviour from the Croatians of the 40s Like how modern day Israel is repeating many of the atrocities that happened to their grandparents. Interestingly general Moshe Dayan had warned the Knesset that Likud was going down this path back during Sharon's reign if not course corrected, and also advocated against messing with Saddam as "the Iranian buffer zone"

[@danzilla3]

Given that they were trained by the Italians, I'm surprised the Ustase ever won a battle.

[@Susan-kz8dd]

This was fascinating I didn't even know this that occurred. It shows that absolute power corrupts absolutely.

[@freakygardener8033]

WOW!!! I fully admit, I know very little about history, but I had NEVER even heard of this group, before seeing this video!

[@promeneuzivotu117]

Look up a video from Disturbian History.He made a great video talking about the crimes of this group.

[@oscarpeters5309]

i hate how much i enjoy these videos... morbid curiosity really is a wild one

[@BonShula]

It is just a video

[@promeneuzivotu117]

Indeed

[@promeneuzivotu117]

​@@BonShula but talking about shocking real life events.

[@BonShula]

@@promeneuzivotu117 There is a huge difference seeing a corpse and seeing a picture of one

[@promeneuzivotu117]

​@@BonShula still if it's a high quality picture it would not make that much of a difference.

[@jamiekay133]

I got to see a Ustaše prison when I visited Croatia last year. A small dark underground set of dank cells in Pula, Istria (Formerly part of Italy when it was returned to the Croats halfway through WWII following Mussolini’s fall from power.) and it was haunting. They were absolutely fanatical fascists. Some really horrid stories I heard about some of the mostly communist guerilla fighters that were imprisoned there….

[@alexcardosa8079]

Psychopath leadership never ends well.

[@jeremiahlarkins618]

No one expects the Spanish inquisition!

[@MadBiker-vj5qj]

I only said "Trouble at t'mill!".

[@rogerhudson9732]

Ustašiti, the verb 'to struggle ', they struggled to stop the domination of Croats by Serbs and others. Za Dom,Spremni means "For home(land),Ready", still said by many Croats.

[@afrikasmith1049]

In short: Everybody's father and grandfather committed war crimes.

[@richardalan3204]

Including US military.

[@Dzagoev-v7z]

Mine didn't

[@phreak2day]

This was quite good, but a bit of additional context would be useful: the Ustaše regime rose to prominence after the assassination of the Croatian politician Stjepan Radić and the establishment of the "January 6th Dictatorship" by the Serbian king Alexander I immediately after that. To say that Radić was popular would be a huge understatement, and he was shot in the Parliament of all places. Without the shockwaves of those events the Ustaše would probably never be established. Tensions were high before that due to the continued attempts of the Serbians to assimilate the Croatians, that's true, but those event's were the final straw which caused the revolt and subsequent retaliation. But because of their extreme actions the Croatians took down both the Ustaše and the NDH. And unfortunately substituted one evil (NDH) for another (Yugoslavia). This bit of context is important to understand why modern day Croatia is not a continuation of NDH nor Yugoslavia.

[@kathleenchaffin2591]

Great job, Simon. Cheers from Detroit!

[@AuntieTrichome]

When even the Nazi’s think you’re going too far, it must have been horrible 😔

[@foo219]

I had no idea about any of this. Whoa.

[@crnabetty5891]

@@foo219 Thank gods you didnt,Imagine listening about WWII since you were born.And the Homeland war too.Tbh,that and economy is why young people run out of the country.

[@chrisbryant8317]

Ante Pacelić born in 1989, looks old for 35.

[@jasminjavorina199]

Fun fact: Hrvoje Hitrec, a Croatian writer responsible for penning the novel (foundation of a later very popular 1980s TV series) that marked entire generations, would later screen write "Jasenovac - The Truth", a 2016 Holocaust denial documentary film by another Nazi-pandering Croatian filmmaker Jakov Sedlar, forever soiling his legacy.

[@Iosis07]

Even today Croats are glorifying Ustaše, but no one is talking about in western media. Most of Croats are proud about Ustaše. They have no shame displaying publicly Ustaše symbols etc. But when we Serbs, just hang our flag at our house, or there is someone who will point out how we are radical and violent. And that is why we get arms in war at 1990's. My uncle lived in Serbian village in Bosnia, Ustaše and ZNG (Zbor Narodne Garde) come from Croatia and attacked the village. It was at very of bigging of the war. They killed a lot of people, uncle survived because he hid under dead body. But well, only we Serbs are accused for aggression, that is western propag... hm democracy and freedom.

[@Nightraven26]

That is not true, maybe in rural, uneducated areas, areas heavily affected by war where Serbian-dominated People’s Army of Yugoslavia and paramilitaries commited massacres against civilians, and among dumb youth trying to be edgy, but in larger cities like Zagreb most people don’t glorify the Ustaše, but consider them fascist maniacs. Nobody in my friend group would support the Ustaše, and I also have a cousin in Belgrade, and as a liberal, even as a Croat, I would probably be a target for the Ustaše if I lived in that time period.

[@victoriabow8347]

Just 2 funfacts: Jasenovac is read as "ya-se-nova-ts", and ustaše is read as "oo-sta-sh-eh". Also, the video is great! this might be weird, but i believe you more than our(Balkan) historians. They are usually totally one-sided. i mean, not all, but most of them.

[@hbailie9115]

Born in 1989. Oh, Simon.

[@AngelWildBlue]

It seems the author of this video knows history written by the victors, not actual history.

[@BrianHayter-zl2uc]

Much love & respect for all victims, never ever again 🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺

[@i_like_lemons]

Why the hell are you on every single obscure video essay channel

[@AmericanRajput]

It’s AI bro

[@draco9513]

Is that a problem?-

[@DownUnder43]

Being Croatian doesn't surprise me at all.

[@eugenejohnson9494]

I used to study genocide as a layman (I’m a truck driver). At one point I found out that Peter Brzica, king of the cutthroats at the Jasenovac camp in Croatia (he cut the throats off 1360 Serbs in a single evening), made it to the United States under an assumed name in 1958. That’s as far as I could get with that one.

[@greendragonspirit1646]

I would say that Israel's regime against the Palestinians could be " too extreme for Hitler ".

[@rottershier6775]

Nope

[@draco9513]

Ok…and?

[@_phosphorus]

@@draco9513 stop making victims of the perpetrators

[@invisibleman4827]

On balance, unlikely.

[@draco9513]

@@_phosphorus I’m not, and people should do the same for Hitler. He was a bad man as well, and was no victim or “misunderstood” by any means.

[@nessc5825]

Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò. Was a man that was involved with the violence in Croatia. He entered the USA saying he was a victim of war and went on to be an archbishop in one of the Catholic Churches, can’t remember where. it was because of real victims of the violence in Croatia who recognized him. They brought the case all the way to the FBI and it was through letters that had his fingerprints found in Germany talking as if he was on vacation among the nazi’s that they were able to prove who he really was, and what got him booted out of the USA

[@aboodsaymeh13]

This video is about ustase but for some reason under the title KZbin is giving me a link to the Holocaust?

[@DavidKopilovitch]

Just because the natzis were disturbed by how the ustese were brutal doesnt mean they were more brutal. It just means they did it to who they considered normal civilians. It is very bold of you to say that they were worse than the nazis.

[@gospodinpendula6250]

They even had Jastrebarsko, concentration camp for children.

[@redjirachi1]

The Nazis being shocked by the Ustase is a classic Lawful Evil v Chaotic Evil moment

[@lilveacky]

Don't forget that many Croats are proud of this stuff

[@shinkayee]

that's scary

[@kingkayfabe5358]

Living next to Serbia (the most warmongering country in the balkans) does that to you.

[@bismuth7730]

@@kingkayfabe5358 These westoids think Croats one day woke up to hate Serbs for no reason.

[@milanlabus1582]

Too many sadly and even more of the ethnic cleaning following operation storm in 1995

[@dredeth]

@@kingkayfabe5358 nice excuse.... good spin.

[@Jayjay-qe6um]

The Ustase plays an important role in Harry Turtledove's short alternate history story Ready for the Fatherland. It plays a brief background role in In the Presence of Mine Enemies, an unrelated work by the same author. In both these works, the regime founded by Pavelic lasted several decades beyond the 1940s.

[@AdamJohnson-k5f]

This guy has so many different shows he can’t keep his scripts straight.

[@karmapolice247]

He was also very cruel to his pet dog. He would occasionally yell at how he'd make him look bad, before brandishing a tribal mask to scare it off.

[@Poglavnit_Pferdefuhrer]

_I didn't know he had partial Irish heritage!_ 😮

[@promeneuzivotu117]

Yeah Hitler also killed his dog beafore he offed himself.

[@HelmetOfHonor]

Dirlewanger Brigade was a lot worse

[@kathleenchaffin2591]

You already posted that.

[@shinkayee]

it's not a competition, babes

[@janharml]

Dirlewanger was the leader of a punishment batalion. Not the leader of a group of "patriots". His soldiers were criminals to begin with.

[@Hollyberrystreats]

But operating on a smaller scale, yes?

[@ToddBrittain1963]

1) Ustase: Between 200,000 and 500,000 Serbs murdered. 30,000 Jews and 29,000 Romani murdered. 2) Dirlewanger: 30,000 civilians murdered in Belarus. 50,000 civilians murdered during Warsaw uprising. Responsible for the murders/deaths of up to 120,000 people. Who was worse?

[@eightballsidepocket9467]

For centuries the Balkans has been a powder keg. To this day there are followers of the Ustase that celebrate their history.

[@bentleyhelder7481]

Does this guy have 10 billion channels or am i crazy? 😂😣