Introducing Donna's Replacement: The Amazing And Experienced Gretchen | Suits

''Am I not manly?'' Finally, Harvey hires a replacement for Donna and decides to hire an older, more experienced woman named Gretchen, who supplies one of the highlights of the episode when she tells Harvey he doesn't need to worry about any boss-secretary sexual tension between them because she prefers manly men.
Do you agree with Gretchen? Is Harvey... not manly at all?
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[@Suits]

Do you agree with Gretchen? Is Harvey... not manly at all?

[@Nemean-se5k]

honestly, i think gretchin is one of the best characters in the series

[@ScathingMobile]

Well, if you have to ask....

[@noomwa]

@@ScathingMobile 😂

[@DanielLopez-gb4gz]

Yep

[@royaneekhalil6488]

What she meant was someone less fastidious and more lumberjack, I suppose 😂

[@martinodonnell6521]

The only bad thing about Gretchen was that she wasn’t in Suits since the beginning 🤝

[@ajg8722]

Fax

[@annabel1grace]

Agreed!

[@DAANNNN1]

Seriously. She was instantly my fav ☺️

[@vj_reddy]

While Jessica being the badass Boss and Donna being the charm... Gretchen carried a lot on her shoulder, made a difference for many even though she had limited role...

[@aceta1online673]

Agreed!! I love Gretchen, one of my favorite. Donna, Gretchen and Louis FTW

[@kawsarali689]

Gretchen is the most under-rated character in this whole series

[@lbention]

Truth!

[@sinuslebastian6366]

Louder!

[@chinonsoegejuru2853]

Retweet

[@shhhhhh6542]

And Jack Soloff

[@ajrocks12x]

@Kawsar ali: So very true.

[@lbention]

"I prefer my men manly!" One of the best lines of the entire series. Gretchen really needed more scenes.

[@derekmichael4291]

she just insulted him and he had to accept it with a pinch of salt

[@lbention]

@@mrdragonage7446 👍🏽

[@AtheismF7W]

he prefers his women.. womanly.

[@Ri57490]

@@AtheismF7W Gretchen is womanly. He needs validation for his manliness, which is why he had to ask her if he's manly or not. So he's not manly.

[@jameswashere187]

@@AtheismF7W Gretchen doesnt have to ask if shes womanly

[@degree5638]

I love the fact they did not antagonize her by turning her into an enemy with Donna. Or made her character less smart or amazing like others.

[@Twiggy163]

And have just the right amount of sass, combined with experience and rational thinking. Awesome character and acting.

[@degree5638]

@@Twiggy163 Ikr

[@castleoffiction96]

Well, Donna was the one who built the list. She probably put Gretchen on there because, as she says in season 8, Gretchen is the only one with deeper contacts sin the industry. So basically, Donna admits that Gretchen is better at some things than her.

[@RTG1031]

@@castleoffiction96 hmm...doubt that Donna would admit the obvious that other people are better than her

[@castleoffiction96]

@@RTG1031 again, she actually did. 8x02

[@mrdragonage7446]

"Am i not manly?" "Well, if u have to ask..." Lol.

[@mrdragonage7446]

Have to write, *I AM FIRST, BIT HES*

[@galacticbattles17]

What does this mean?????

[@TheRoudyzor]

@@galacticbattles17 you don't seek validation from others

[@Rikard416]

I am totally copying this lol... not necessarily the same question but still applies irl

[@shrirambaindur6055]

She definitely gives Donna a run for her money

[@sinuslebastian6366]

She's actually wayy better than Donna if you ask me.

[@jjcollinsbristol7]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👌🏾

[@suchibratadash1849]

@@sinuslebastian6366 Yeah, she's all the qualities of Donna with more experience.

[@SheTigressRoam]

Gretchen is so loyal and supportive towards Harvey in a strong maternal way. She is there for him without being an overbearing busybody.

[@czeremcha-zjadliwa]

@@suchibratadash1849 What?! All qualities? What about looks?

[@ivandrawambia9202]

That first scene is a great callback to how he hired Mike… they all looked like they came out an assembly line and he went straight for the person who stood out on the spot.

[@krupapoobal4036]

The list was from Donna. She stacked the interview so Harvey would pick Gretchen.

[@Pratikmayekar4]

@@krupapoobal4036 Gassing up Donna too much there

[@lankancheetah]

@@krupapoobal4036 Didnt she make that list for Louis first when Norma died?

[@omalor]

​@lankancheetah no, she signed on to be Louis's sec, then she made a list for Harvey.

[@AlezanDeer]

Not. She made the list for Louis and kept it for Harvey. First on the list was Abigail, but Harvey didn't take her probably because she was young and attractive. Gretchen was second on the list.

[@mathangi4]

One of the best scenes with Gretchen was when she, Jessica and Rachel meet at the executive kitchen/canteen and she says "this firm got a whole lot blacker" and Jessica and Gretchen secretly bump their fists😂.

[@serviceattitude]

Season and episode please?

[@mathangi4]

@@serviceattitude season 6 episode 1 or 2

[@SS-rd6cv]

So did the Royal Family, incidentally 😄

[@adarshrajbhatt6557]

Hahahaaha

[@cerencelik387]

@@serviceattitude season 6 ep 2 12:40, Also I suggest you watch 26:35 in the same episode.

[@selkirkswift]

Abigail wasn’t even in the elevator before someone else was hired. Loooool.

[@matthewruss]

Abigail boasted she was the best. Gretchin showed she was the best

[@pepesilvia3827]

@@matthewruss Uh, not in that under 5 second interview, no.

[@MrHamSandwhich]

No she was hired specifically because she wasn't attractive like the others. She could do the job and harvey wasn't attracted to her so it kept it 100% professional

[@ToniaAlex13]

@@MrHamSandwhich yep. All of the others were attractive, and young

[@olivertwist2843]

😂😂😂😂

[@chorrellpique4057]

The little smirk on Harvey’s face after Gretchen says: “well, if you have to ask…” haha. I always rewind it and replay it several times. Loved how fierce, yet gentle and proper she could be.

[@daynechastant]

He did get it, though. Anyone who feel they have to tell people they have certain qualities usually don't have them, or they would show without needing to tell...

[@aSSGoblin1488]

i thot he hired her bcoz she looked like a battle axe and not bcoz of race? 24 years you pretty much know what

[@davidthosome623]

​@@aSSGoblin1488 I thought he hired her because all the other options were very attractive and I doubt that he wanted another secretary to fall for. Probably leads to why he asked her 2 questions and hired her off the bat

[@straticfps]

I feel like Gretchen was kind of a waste with Louis. Didn’t get enough screen time and dialogue. Definitely could’ve improved the show with more interactions with her. Nonetheless Gretchen is 10/10

[@annogrady3513]

I love when Gretchen secretly says to Harvey , about her panic attacks, and how she doesn't have them anymore, was a sweet moment. She was quietly giving reassurance to Harvey, that he can overcome them, sweet moment.

[@TonyPerez816]

Her defensive tone when she says "I'm GREAT at what I do...". That was closing. Genius.

[@lbention]

I agree

[@lunaballesano6410]

Donna and Harvey are an outstanding couple, but imo, Gretchen was the better secretary. (Probably cause feelings didn't get involved too much)

[@kephrenh]

Donna never acted like a secretary. You would think she ran the place.

[@hafeezasif7932]

@@kephrenh I mean she ended up as COO so she was pretty close

[@cheakimmeng3977]

@@hafeezasif7932 Yeah because of harvey... in reality, the executive would tell her to find new employment..

[@sara1coco]

Gotta disagree Gretchen and Donna were both great secretaries. They did their job well. Even after Donna left Harvey, she wrote him a list on secretaries he could hire to replace her etc-

[@sara1coco]

@@cheakimmeng3977 that's not true in many firms you can work yourself up regardless of your degrees.

[@mrh1957]

The chemistry among all the actors on this show was incredible, and Aloma Wright just fit right in when they added her. I agree with so many other posters: wish her character had been part of the show from the beginning.

[@TheDCGuitar13]

Gretchen was always my favorite secretary on the show. Knew her role and didn’t overstep like Donna or Rachel did.

[@teukka623]

What about amy

[@Bettie_Williams]

Rachel was a paralegal-not a secretary. She had her own office and later became an associate.

[@sara1coco]

Then Harvey would've never developed and turn into the man he became. He needed Donna and most secretaries tend to overstep from time to time lol

[@neha445able]

Because Donna was so much more to Harvey, best friend and confidate

[@jasonmoukala8909]

@@sara1coco did he need Donna tho? She was way more trouble then she was worth

[@pruray]

Acting wise and substance wise, this actress was the best in the entire cast. Effortless presence without being arrogant or abrasive or angry.

[@ajrocks12x]

"Well if you have to ask" .... LOL. Gretchen is hilarious. Harvey was tickled pink. Look at that little smile.

[@GymMasterAlex]

Gretchen was seriously one of the best characters in this show. Almost every one of her scenes left me smiling.

[@Affan.1]

Gretchen is the best.

[@ScorpiusZA.]

I loved her in Scrubs and she lost none of her charm in Suits.

[@czeremcha-zjadliwa]

@@ScorpiusZA. She's a darling but I hate her dressing style. The clothes she wears do not flatter her at all.

[@kwasibruce]

She is

[@kwasibruce]

@@czeremcha-zjadliwa Allow her, she's a bit of old school.

[@czeremcha-zjadliwa]

@@kwasibruce Old school or not she has the potential of looking her best .

[@rickyricardo4331]

Imagine if Gretchen was there since season 1! Her and Louis would have been comedy gold!!

[@bloke_19xx33]

Aloma Wright was awesome in this show. Just loved how she put both Harvey and Louis in their place several times when a scene called for it. A true 'lightning-rod' in every sense of the word. Excellent casting call.

[@eltonjohntubola3212]

Laverne and Gretchen are what this world needs.

[@KEEK35181]

I like Gretchen a lot better as a character than Donna. There I said it.

[@ajrocks12x]

@Karri: Me too Kari, me too

[@oscairconnolly4716]

Donna can be a pain. Lack of responsibility for her mistakes etc

[@mreverything980]

Donna is too arrogant, but not Louis arrogant,

[@gouthamreddybellala6888]

Karri I'm the who completed your 200👍..😉

[@KEEK35181]

@@gouthamreddybellala6888 Much appreciated! Cheers!

[@elijahcaldona7690]

"I prefer my men manly." - This just cracked me up 😂😂

[@sumgamesonmyphone9203]

Gretchen was great for Louis. Its true that she didn't get enough screentime to do her justice but Louis deserved a secretary that rivals Harvey's.

[@thebelen2359]

Gretchen is so underrated. I wish she had appeared a little bit more.

[@nikshiith]

She definitely gives Donna a run for her money.

[@li8505]

Sometimes we are so afraid of losing something or someone because we feel as though it is the best we can have, but what we don't know is that once we let go of what we want to, there is so much better waiting for us.

[@parryxxlivxx]

Is that your really abstract way of saying that we thought we wanted Donna until we got Gretchen?

[@li8505]

@@parryxxlivxx what I mean is that when Gretchen came she was actually a lot better than i thought she would be, and I would say she was better than Donna, not as a secretary but as someone working for Harvey. Donna and Harveys relationship became toxic

[@amoghchap]

That expression from Gabriel Macht at the end. Superb acting

[@codelong1592]

She was the best new character add in the show

[@thokozanemthombeni6480]

“Well.. if you have to ask🤷‍♂️”

[@mkzwrld7641]

Wise choice hiring Gretchen and not the other girls 😅. Harvey and the first girl already looked like they were about to tear each others clothes off.

[@nicholaslawrence6926]

I agree. I believe that was why Harvey didn't hire her, because he knows that he would become emotionally attached to her. So he picked a "tougher", no-nonsense, all-business secretary i.e. Gretchern

[@barbieblue3336]

Women

[@Salutations26]

@@nicholaslawrence6926 he picked someone he couldn’t possibly be attracted to.

[@tabithaprovan957]

I'm not sure it wasn't more along the lines of thinking that a secretary even remotely like Donna would make him feel adulterous somehow. I think the first secretary he interviewed made him nauseated more than allured because of that. He wasn't afraid he'd catch feelings, he was disgusted and resistant at the prospect of trying to move on from Donna. "As far as I'm concerned, two people who care about each other don't move on at all."

[@maralonent6257]

@@Salutations26actually no. He picked someone he knew could do the job because he was impatient, uninterested and wanted to move on (it parallel’s his associate interview when he hired Mike despite not having a law degree just because he didn’t want to continue with the interviews). People assume it’s because he didn’t wan5 to hire someone pretty because that’s what Gretchen said, but this show often has characters state things that are untrue.

[@ryanndiaz7087]

When that actresses character died on the show scrubs, I bawled my eyes out for hours

[@emmdotenn]

RIP Laverne Roberts

[@anichols5845]

They did it well.

[@shereencollington7954]

Same

[@cesaravegah3787]

Go outside, take a walk, watch less TV.

[@shereencollington7954]

​@@cesaravegah3787 Sure. But also appreciate an actress like Aloma Wright and give her flowers like the national treasure that she is.

[@lindaminor2872]

This scene was so cute. I fell in love with Gretchen after this episode.

[@snsn7251]

No nonsense and funny

[@graceandmarvellouswonders6249]

This was my entire thought!!

[@EclipseGameplay]

Gretchen blows Donna out of the water

[@suzannadannaTARDIS]

Hands down, Gretchen is my favorite Suits character. I only wish we saw more of her.

[@gamingtutorials7102]

"Gretchen's better than Donna" Change My Mind.

[@danhangan2576]

Gretchen was the perfect secretary. She did her job well enough, and didn't try to go over the top/over her head, like Donna did. I love her so much!

[@thebelen2359]

I like Donna better but I can see where you're coming from. I love both.

[@Lampalot]

Oh this man trying to start a war in the comments

[@joebloggs4933]

@@Lampalot It's easy to like Donna more because she was one of original cast members, but when you think about it she caused a few problems because of her ego. And there were times were she was irritating because she had an inflated sense of her own importance. Gretchen on the other hand consistently delivered. There wasn't a single time where it was unpleasant to see her on screen. She's not much of a looker, sure. But it feels shallow to even make that a criterion for comparison. Overall, Gretchen is the kind of person you want in your corner. Donna is the kind of person you want in a commercial.

[@dumemnduka7930]

@@joebloggs4933 Well said!!!!

[@ubergreendowntown]

2:04 it was in this moment Harvey knew..... he had the right one 😂

[@elliottcharlesreed]

Gretchen was such a fantastic addition to the show

[@the3rdid485]

I don't want to take anything away from Donna's character or the actress, but it seemed like an impossible character to replace and not only did they do it, they didn't absolutely fantastic job of it. Gretchen was fantastically written and acted.

[@karuonline3294]

to roast Harvey and leave him impressed at the same time...the swag on Gretchen ! :)

[@distantraveller9876]

Abigail came off as incredibly arrogant and cocky and the fact she tried flirting with him at the end tells you all you need to know about her. I'm glad he went with Gretchen.

[@canesugar911]

What's there to know about her?

[@joyjr91_]

That’s not what bothered him, Mike & Donna had the same qualities. Harvey admires ppl who are confident of their skillset, the only reason he didn’t choose Abigail is cause he might end up sleeping w her & it’ll be like the Donna situation all over again

[@moechekhar7911]

who thinks that Gretchen was badass especially with tanner when he tried to sneak to Harvey's office :)) @suits Official, that scene, please.

[@jaimerivera1898]

Yes, and Donna did let him in.

[@eshwariganesh9584]

Even Tanner liked her, that should say everything.

[@dannysimion]

The moment they introduced Gretchen I was floored by her sassy and confident personality. She stands out on her own in the firm against these strong willed lawyers. I love her! She always has something hilarious to say.

[@namanvaid9463]

Gretchen was legend ... She is the most prominent charachter of the show such a great attitude

[@li8505]

Such an underrated character. Loved her!

[@plagiats]

that's exactly how Tony Stark hired his assistant in the comic books

[@GatorGirl04]

Such a GREAT character! Suits has real rhythmic dialogue and Gretchen's timing was unmatched! This was one of my all-time favorite scenes.

[@mistermister8998]

When I become a lawyer, I’m getting me a secretary like Gretchen!

[@cawsnallthis]

She was great in this role, but she will always be Laverne to me.

[@denzelagbettor]

Don’t remind me! I was just getting over her death in Scrubs :(

[@shereencollington7954]

She adds spice to any show. Love her.

[@Wirenfeldt1990]

I was looking for this comment.. thought I recognized her.. Thank you..

[@adityaXsingh]

2:05 is one of the most sassy n savage scenes in entire Suits. Never gets old or not funny. 🤣

[@BoormanCrafts]

Incredibly smart and underrated character. I thought Gretchen was a laugh, "well if you have to ask" ... hahaha priceless.

[@edash5835]

A Subtle point is gretchen's chair is facing Harvey's office, showing she has the confidence and ability to do the job

[@88ratul]

Imagine Gretchen being Jessica's secretary... straight to the point. no nonsense combo..

[@cyvonn]

Gretchen was a great addition to the show and she fit in so well.

[@spurslegacy]

Mirrored the hiring of Mike. Love it

[@theshaikhayaan]

When Louis banging Sheila and Gretchen said "you're still tapping that aren't you" 😂 it was so unexpected she's cool

[@sabiyumvanathalys3067]

That well “ if you have to ask “ 😂🤣

[@Nikos150]

love the way harvey delivers the "am i not manly?" line.

[@kassiocampos8042]

Ladies and Gentlemen, you're watching the beginning of ''The Amazing Gretchen!"I love how she became amazing in that firm. We love her!!

The way Harvey chooses Gretchen is so funny haha

[@drumma4lyfe06]

I LOVE Gretchen! She was like "grandma" of Suits. She even put Donna in check more than a few times.

[@Theliquidmonkey]

The way she looked at him when she said: "I'm great at what I do" is all I needed to know.

[@y2k704]

that was a smart move on his part, I wouldn't want an attractive woman as my secretary either, all business

[@diebesvolk]

Well but there is a effect ( which name I unfortunate forgot , but it is named in How I Met your Mother) that , non or less how unattractive your secretary may seem to you , at one point you will start find her more and more attractive.

[@tanpat6402]

@@diebesvolk the manatee effect

[@diebesvolk]

@@tanpat6402 yeah ! Cheers mate

[@kephrenh]

It’s actually because it’s all business you will her more attractive. Her job is literally to make life easier for you. If she does it very well, the attraction will be there.

[@shubhamkumar-gx5vx]

But she is old, quite old compared to Harvey. I think the nature of attraction can't be romantic in such case

[@sessi0000]

Any time Donna came on the TV I’d instantly fast forward. Gretchen on the other hand was great to listen to. The perfect secretary that knows her place and isn’t some know it all busy body who causes more drama than anyone else in the show, besides Louis.

[@mierleaalexandru6434]

Exactly, she was just the perfect secretary, would not fit any other role better than that one.

[@sessi0000]

@@mierleaalexandru6434 once they made her partner and then CFO I lost all interest in the show.

[@bgcanadianbacon6703]

@@sessi0000 they did that? I've just been looking at clips on KZbin and that sounds ridiculous

[@Vivek-cw7zc]

@@bgcanadianbacon6703 IKR

[@bgcanadianbacon6703]

@@Vivek-cw7zc she seems like the last person to be leading a firm, those writers really lost their touch later on in the show

[@earthlylynx]

You can see the in Harvey’s demeanor that he appreciates the honesty…

[@qghjuy]

harveys face when she says, "well if you have to ask" is one of, "Oh I like her"!

[@manojuppala3941]

Mike and the entire firm should be thankful to Gretchen. Mike wouldn't have gone to jail and turn out to be a real lawyer if she didn't publish the article in the first place.

[@BradyKaynee]

If Gretchen can stand up to Astronema in Power Rangers In Space... she can stand up to anybody

[@TarotMage]

She had me at "Well, you have to ask."

[@calypso13100]

Thank you gretchen! I used these exact lines about being manly on a man I met about a month ago and the look on his face when I walked away was priceless!

[@khalidamajoud4114]

Phenomenal character: Smart, competent and sassy...😎

[@badseednut]

Gretchen!! Probably the best addition to the show!

[@gluten-freecookies]

I need to go back and finish this series for this alone

[@thel1195]

"If you have to ask..." so cold.

[@RTG1031]

The start of a beautiful friendship ♥️

[@aznhoodraxon]

Suits would have benefitted more of her sassiness

[@ubergreendowntown]

2:06 the soul of battle ax Norma has rerisen in the form of Gretchen 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@sarajavoyugoslavia]

This scene was amazing, watching him navigate both professional and personal pitfalls with one syllable, then seeing his judgment rewarded when she was a great choice!

[@acm9616]

She was great in scrubs, fantastic here

[@superskaria]

This lady just might even be a consideration for best actor/actress just with her immense presence in this one clip alone....nobody can find fault even if they watch it a thousand times. Now this is the kind of contribution from certain individuals/characters in society which goes under the radar that make a society/other individuals look like super humans or model society. ❤️❤️❤️🔥🔥🔥

[@shereencollington7954]

Hidden Figures

[@She.loves_sexyRM]

When sh called louis a fool i started laughing 😂😂

[@Skydron]

I've seen this actress in this show and in Scubs... and she was awesome in both series!

[@SuperMusic18]

I'm glad Gretchen joined the suits family

[@OiVinn-eq1ml]

Gretchin is a beast & quick thinker

[@irmaadams7780]

I rewatch this time and time again.

[@tumasm01]

Didn't like how they left her out in the finale montage

[@JustinDevonish]

This is one of the best scenes of Suits. Gretchen is fantastic. Truly underrated.

[@balad.9757]

I love the way they wrote her character.❤

[@y.o.b.e.e.2200]

That if you had to ask line at the end is a killer

[@paulwilson8169]

Abigails whole thing about how great she was came across as arrogant and trying to convince herself it was true while Gretchen's was more "Im offended you even asked".

[@mhp7690]

Im just fascinated how the 1st candidate sorta mirrored Mike yet he just asked 2 questions to Gretchen and she got hired. Still Gretchen with what she was given played her role as a minor character 10/10 , should've gotten a bigger push Season 8 onwards.

[@barbieblue3336]

She's efficient. The first chick was trying to charm him

[@TheMuddyBunny]

She's the best. I think her and Dona are comparable. They are beyond competent and have an attitude that challenges and makes Harvey better at his job. They aren't meek and are quick thinkers . I'd say tho, since Gretchen and Harvey did not smash, their working relationship seems much less charged. As a secretary, Harvey is better off with Gretchen.

[@krisn6622]

I love this Gretchen character .. you always get something unexpected from her 😍

[@ecay]

I love this woman and her character. She played her role super well. It didn't matter who she was working for. She was on her game

[@Anonymouslyhighlyopinionated]

Now that’s what I call a strong female character

[@kobusdutoitbosman6240]

Gretchen makes the entire show come alive with ‘subtlety’ and intrique…😳‼️💫🥂 Simply BRILLIANT👊🔥🌟 🪖

[@be_ambitious9]

I got tears watching this...miss you suits

[@bigrivtodagled8210]

I have seen so many of these clips and I want to watch the series now because of Donna, Gretchen and Lewis.

[@bigrivtodagled8210]

I watched it then I cried because it was over. I feel like I lost a part of me… I wish I can forget about it and watched it again.