Introduction to Jazz Drumming | Drum Lesson

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Jonathan Curtis

Jonathan Curtis

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@jmfs3497
@jmfs3497 2 жыл бұрын
Great kick drum/ride exercise. That's an area of playing that I feel is holding me back a bit. This is a very simple "I can watch TV and develop muscles" exercise.
@scumoftheearth741
@scumoftheearth741 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not a professional drummer and always was quite scared of the Jazz as it seemed like something impenetrable for people who didn't spend 5 years in a music school. But this video really inspired me to start practicing the basics, thank you for a nicely laid-out and concise lesson!
@bussboy3740
@bussboy3740 5 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best breakdowns of jazz I have come across, extremely helpful for an older guy just learning thank you sir !!
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! I'm glad you've found it useful.
@A.ChristopherJohnson
@A.ChristopherJohnson 4 жыл бұрын
Amen Buss Boy !!
@keithgreene79
@keithgreene79 4 жыл бұрын
I'm in the same boat. I'm a gigging drummer but never played jazz drums professionally. I just joined a jazz group so this is going to be great for my development.
@CrochetNewsNetwork
@CrochetNewsNetwork 3 жыл бұрын
Agree 100%
@martinvelez9250
@martinvelez9250 4 жыл бұрын
Another older guy (conga/bongo player for 35 years) that just bought a drum set and love jazz. Thanks for breaking this down. You are a very good teacher.
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. Enjoy your journey!
@SaltBushCity
@SaltBushCity 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Martin, I'm in same position, 50yo percussion player thinking about buying a kit. How's it going?
@martinvelez9250
@martinvelez9250 3 жыл бұрын
@@SaltBushCity Hey Mick. Learning to play the drum set has improved my clave based bongo and conga playing in ways I don't quite understand, probably the 4 way coordination and sticking plus all the rudiments, learning to read and all the different styles I've been exploring. I've been at it for about 4 years, especially now during the Covid, I practice a lot. Get yourself a drum set and a good teacher. You won't regret it !
@SaltBushCity
@SaltBushCity 3 жыл бұрын
@@martinvelez9250 Interesting. Thanks a lot.
@joshowens3593
@joshowens3593 5 жыл бұрын
I stopped at about 9 minutes in. I’m going to practice ride and hi hat for a while then come back to this video.
@OfficialBigBoyThings
@OfficialBigBoyThings 3 жыл бұрын
same
@skootermcshooter5969
@skootermcshooter5969 3 жыл бұрын
When I started I started playing at or (+/-) 35 BPM. Its very slow but I did it until both my feet and both my arms could play different beats and speeds differently. SLOW SLOW SLOW UNTIL YOU GET IT.
@DrumTeacherManila
@DrumTeacherManila 4 жыл бұрын
This is the best introduction to jazz drumming I've ever seen on youtube...
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 4 жыл бұрын
Drum Teacher Manila thank you, I’m really glad you liked it.
@vincentbuonora8477
@vincentbuonora8477 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent lesson. I play Stick Control on Ride R and Left as snare...you get some cool almost Latin jazz sounding beats
@Vanolo999
@Vanolo999 6 жыл бұрын
This is the best introduction to jazz, perfect. Breaking the fundamentals of each limb and how to combine them, the philosophy's seem so obvious now, teaching jazz like building a house. Thankyou very much, couldn't have made a better video
@youfoundmeo7537
@youfoundmeo7537 5 жыл бұрын
Wow this is so much more helpful than my private lesson it helped me understand the fundamentals and move on to the more advanced comping pattern. Thank you so much!
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad you liked it.
@aimilist
@aimilist 5 жыл бұрын
Im a jazz pianist wanting to get my rythmic game on, get to know more in depth how drummers think . Yjis helped a lot, thanks mate !
@joelhautala3595
@joelhautala3595 5 жыл бұрын
Great attitude man! Now you think like a musician. :)
@eboyeman8457
@eboyeman8457 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a jazz drummer and gospel pianist
@stefevr
@stefevr 3 жыл бұрын
@@eboyeman8457 ok
@Frank1979Zappa
@Frank1979Zappa 5 жыл бұрын
Great lesson! No BS here. Essential basics, presented in a very convincing, real life style. Will recommend it to my students.
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 5 жыл бұрын
Frank1979Zappa thank you! I appreciate your comment.
@devyneynes8487
@devyneynes8487 5 жыл бұрын
Hello, I would like to see classes on how to follow a jazz theme, from beginning to end, with all its parts, bridges etc. So far there are thousands of videos that teach to play the drums in jazz from the technical but none that explains and shows on a subject part by part from beginning to end and I think it is a good opportunity to teach that. Greetings from Argentina, thanks!
@JosephRegala
@JosephRegala 4 жыл бұрын
The best intro to jazz playing on the kit, that I have come across. Awesome, thanks!
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@itzshay8296
@itzshay8296 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see people putting in effort and spend their time to educate others, keep going 👍🏽 great drummer as well
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I really appreciate the kind comment. Be sure to explore the more recent videos on my channel too.
@richardpine8011
@richardpine8011 7 жыл бұрын
This is essential watching for any drummer looking to get into jazz. Really great content and well presented!
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Richard, that's a very nice comment to receive.
@Marsha0099
@Marsha0099 2 жыл бұрын
That is a great help, great lesson for start. Thank you, that will make a difference, I didn't know where to go, not even with the normal drum lessons.
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 2 жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome. I’d encourage you to check out the newer videos on my channel. I have completely redefined my approach to jazz drumming since this video, including publishing a book on jazz drumming. Let me know if you find anything that helps you, or stop by and say hello at www.jonathancurtis.co.uk
@LimpBizkit999
@LimpBizkit999 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been drumming for years but have had a very tough time with a proper introduction to jazz. This is the only channel that has helped. Thanks mate 🔥🥁
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad it’s helped you!
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 2 жыл бұрын
Hi mate. Just wanted to check in (9 months later!) to see how you're getting on. I was really pleased to hear that this video helped you. Have you continued to progress? I've published a drumming book on jazz drumming recently; if you're interested, I can email you a free sample. If you drop me a message through www.jonathancurtis.co.uk it's yours! Tell me how you're getting on, too! Cheers.
@mayanksingh958
@mayanksingh958 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. I was always having a hard time while counting and playing to my favourite jazz numbers.
@gerardclaude1652
@gerardclaude1652 5 жыл бұрын
This is the best lesson that I have found on KZbin. Thanks so much!
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you liked it.
@thomasszirtes1614
@thomasszirtes1614 4 жыл бұрын
I watched so many videos about jazz drumming but this by far the best I have found. Thanks a lot
@steveward4432
@steveward4432 7 жыл бұрын
Another logical, well thought out and presented tutorial. Excellent.
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 7 жыл бұрын
steve ward thank you Steve. It means a lot to me to receive comments like this, and really helps me to keep going.
@tobytoxd
@tobytoxd 5 жыл бұрын
@@JCurtisDrums Your lesson reminds me of Benny Greb Language of Drumming :)
@Craigo-xg5mc
@Craigo-xg5mc 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic explanation to help me remember the basics and building blocks. Thank you.
@stevepethel6843
@stevepethel6843 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting insight on ride and hi hats importance...You are Great and a help to me thank you sir...
@braaaaaains
@braaaaaains 6 жыл бұрын
Surprised this doesn't have more views. This was probably the most concise intro for a pop/rock drummer unfamiliar with jazz structure. Thank you.
@clintonsalmeron8859
@clintonsalmeron8859 3 жыл бұрын
This video was my first jazz drum lesson ever and I'm hooked. Thank you!
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoy the ride! (Pun intended)
@clintonsalmeron8859
@clintonsalmeron8859 3 жыл бұрын
@@JCurtisDrumsHa, yes! I just got home from work and ready to practice! Cheers!
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Clinton. I just wanted to check in and see how you're getting on with your jazz drumming. Did you keep going with it? I'd love to hear from you. I've also published a book on jazz drumming now, would you like a free sample? Drop me an email through my website ( www.jonathancurtis.co.uk ) and I'll email it across to you. Don't forget to tell me how you're getting on with your own playing, too! best wishes, Jonathan.
@Yhdyssanakoe
@Yhdyssanakoe 5 жыл бұрын
As a beginner this is pretty tough, but I will come back to this! Thank you mate
@BimeB1234
@BimeB1234 4 жыл бұрын
Buss Boy , totaly agree. GREAT LESSON thank you Jonathan!
@marcosmenezes3742
@marcosmenezes3742 Жыл бұрын
thank you for this !! I am a rock drummer and I enjoy samba a lot (I am Brazillian) and these grooves come from such a diferent perspective and I never know how to aproach it in the way they sound good . I totally understand now !
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums Жыл бұрын
My pleasure, I'm glad this has helped you. Be sure to explore some of the more recent videos on my channel. I've refined my approach a little in the years since this one was published.
@arpitchoudhury5221
@arpitchoudhury5221 4 жыл бұрын
This is a brilliant video to get started with Jazz drumming. I've never gotten myself to break the rhythm of rock but this has been helpful!
@buselakeju
@buselakeju 5 жыл бұрын
A good and very simple explanation, particularly for thous who do not have a clear understanding and insight feeling in thus three types of notes. additionally, I can recommend looking in Jim's Chapin book Coordinated Independence. Thank you, Jonathan, for such a good job. Very Keep goin'.
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Janis. Thanks for your message and kind words. I'm glad you think it's a good video. You're right, Chapin's books are great (did you know there is a second volume?), Thanks again, Jonathan
@AKRehmonen
@AKRehmonen 6 жыл бұрын
Have you noticed that syncopation line goes to the melody of Rudolf the Reindeer? That christmassong... 😊
@kaizadmullafiroze9789
@kaizadmullafiroze9789 3 жыл бұрын
I really like the way you explain God bless you 🙏🏻
@Andrew_85
@Andrew_85 5 жыл бұрын
What a gem of an introduction. Thanks for making this. I’m right at the start of my journey.
@chaotic_cheeto5654
@chaotic_cheeto5654 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, have been having trouble finding where to start jazz drumming.
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, and I'm glad this has been helpful. Feel free to contact me at www.jonathancurtis.co.uk if you'd like any more insights into this style of playing, or a free a sample of my book on jazz drumming. Best wishes!
@soccerteacher8
@soccerteacher8 6 жыл бұрын
Superb breakdown! After one viewing and one practice session from memory, using your suggestion to switch fluidly on the ride between quarter note, swung eighth notes, and triplets while maintaining the upbeat with the hi-hat, my playing has improved! Much appreciated!
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 6 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Erik! I'm really glad to hear that you've made a breakthrough. Thanks for the kind words, too.
@willmonson7730
@willmonson7730 2 жыл бұрын
Very good,to the point introduction!
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Will, I'm glad you like it. Let me know if you'd like a free pdf sample of my book on jazz drumming. All the best!
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 2 жыл бұрын
I forgot to say, if you'd like a sample, you need to email me through my website: www.jonathancurtis.co.uk
@timcline2799
@timcline2799 4 жыл бұрын
Woww Excellent. This is the best insight. I’m just starting Ted Reeds book. Ty!
@hananshells8055
@hananshells8055 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, This is a great Jazz lesson for a beginner and older drummer like me! Gosh have a lot to learn, even at age 65,!!! Thank you sir, and yes already sucribed! God Bless. ❤️
@CrochetNewsNetwork
@CrochetNewsNetwork 3 жыл бұрын
I’m 65 as well and a past pop LA session drummer. Now I can grasp jazz basics,
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Hanan. Sorry for the slow reply! I'm really grateful for your comments. How are you getting on with your own jazz journey. I'd love to hear from you. You might also like a free sample of my book on jazz drumming. Feel free to contact me through my website: www.jonathancurtis.co.uk and tell me how you're getting on.
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I'm really pleased to hear you're exploring something new and getting the hang of it. As with Hanan, I'd love to hear how you're getting on. Keep me updated; you can contact me through my website at www.jonathancurtis.co.uk
@chetguida9572
@chetguida9572 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic!! Love these exercises.
@tmaddrummer
@tmaddrummer 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks and Blessings!!!
@nickespina1975
@nickespina1975 4 жыл бұрын
17:06 you Sir, are a good teacher. Kudos!
@Arsalan-Pervez
@Arsalan-Pervez Жыл бұрын
This lesson is incredible ❤
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums Жыл бұрын
Thanks Arsalan. Be sure to explore my more recent videos, as this one is a few years old now!
@djmileski
@djmileski Жыл бұрын
Great video. Thank you!
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums Жыл бұрын
You are welcome! 🙏
@dylangatenby9928
@dylangatenby9928 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome lesson! Enjoyed it thoroughly.
@jimstone6071
@jimstone6071 6 жыл бұрын
I’m 56 and after32 years of drumming I’m Starting on jazz...and I’m getting an EYEBALL HEADACHE..SERIOUSLY that you for the lessons...Jim. Hammond Louisiana..👍👍🙏🥁✌️
@furgoneto6088
@furgoneto6088 3 жыл бұрын
The most helpful introduction I've been searching for a while, you have a new suscriber here. Thank you, sir. By the way, could you recommend any essentials jazz albums? I've been listening Kind of Blue, Giant Steps and Duke Ellington & John Coltrane lately. Again, thanks for your help :)
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 3 жыл бұрын
Sure! Try: - Nefertiti (Miles Davis) - For Musicians Only (Dizzy Gillespie) - Now He Sings, Now He Sobs (Chick Corea) - Personal Mountains (Keith Jarrett) - Free For All (Art Blakey) - Four and More (Miles Davis)
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Cesar. Just following up to see how you're getting on. How is your own jazz journey coming along, both listening and drumming? I'd love to discuss it further with you. You might also be interested in my own book on jazz drumming. If you like, I can email you a free sample. Just drop me a message at www.jonathancurtis.co.uk and tell me how you're getting on!
@TheStobb50
@TheStobb50 6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and clear, thank you
@chewgumer
@chewgumer 6 жыл бұрын
A very good introduction to jazz drumming, As he says,it`s important to listen to all the greats to further your playing with musicality and getting away from playing with an instruction book approach, Some drummers I feel, never get away from book exercises & continue to play with that mechanical feel when actually playing live with musicians. There was a very famous American drummer who once said "Learn it all, then forget it." Listen to the arrangement & then compliment the soloists by making their playing sound as good as possible, edging them on with rhythmical ideas.
@daveappleton7523
@daveappleton7523 4 жыл бұрын
Wish you lived down the street...I'd so be knocking on your door for lessons👍...nice teaching
@daljeetghag3321
@daljeetghag3321 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, my brain just exploded... Great information. Thanks for sharing
@mart6571
@mart6571 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this goldmine of a lesson!
@unitstudio2542
@unitstudio2542 Жыл бұрын
Have just seen this today but your such a good teacher thnks please
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much 🙏
@Since-UniqueOriginalPersonaliz
@Since-UniqueOriginalPersonaliz 2 жыл бұрын
I don't play drums - I've never played drums. But, I really want to learn how to 'listen' to jazz music. I've played many syncopated guitar parts, but, when listening to jazz, I usually get lost in the beat while trying to tap my toes. This video is actually very helpful toward that goal. It appears that the ride cymbal is like the North Star, so just knowing that is huge! Thanks.
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. I'm glad this video has helped you in some way. You might like to try some of my more recent videos on jazz drumming. My approach and concepts have evolved a fair amount since this video was published. Many thanks.
@jimstone6071
@jimstone6071 5 жыл бұрын
After 35 years of playing drums all over USA back in the 90s ...I’m starting and I have an Eyeball headache...😂😂👍👍
@acousticproject6816
@acousticproject6816 4 жыл бұрын
thank you man, hi from Colombia South America
@TheSPACEDIEVEST1
@TheSPACEDIEVEST1 5 жыл бұрын
This is a great lesson. Thank you my friend for making this practical.
@JK4ManC
@JK4ManC 7 ай бұрын
This is a brilliant lesson. Wish I could have seen this 45 years ago.
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 7 ай бұрын
Thank you. And it’s never too late. I hope you enjoy working on this material.
@adrianlogie3749
@adrianlogie3749 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Well enjoyed.
@dwightbernheimer331
@dwightbernheimer331 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. At almost 80 years old playing mostly guitar and bass in Rock and Doo-wop bands most of my life. I've noticed that people you play for whether they're dancing or in the audience, if you didn't have a high hat they wouldn't even notice lol just sayin' most people listen and move to the beat the rest is just icing on the cake... thanks for posting.
@foxdonze
@foxdonze 4 жыл бұрын
By far the most clear and informative video on jazz drumming I've seen on KZbin. Good job
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@VitalBigras
@VitalBigras 2 жыл бұрын
This is great !
@knun6227
@knun6227 2 жыл бұрын
this is great. thank you, sir
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind comments. Please stop by the website and say hello! www.jonathancurtis.co.uk
@bobweber4140
@bobweber4140 5 жыл бұрын
Just starting out with jazz perfect instruction thank you nice job
@markatkinson299
@markatkinson299 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you. Learned a lot.
@mikemike7345
@mikemike7345 6 жыл бұрын
Very great way explained it and broke it down thank you
@alistairrigby6375
@alistairrigby6375 5 жыл бұрын
I am a metal drummer but for some reason im here and i love it. played with triplets before. and syncopation
@spark_6710
@spark_6710 4 жыл бұрын
It might help you to be more original metal drummer ! Back in the 70's & 80's ,British rock ( rock/ hard rock )drummers were very influenced by jazz drummers ! My all time favourites Ian Paice & Ginger Baker amongth 'em ! And my soulmate late Jon Lee ( Feeder ) ! He was only 11,but people knew he was real advanced already ! 💜💜💜🥁🎵🐉🎤🎶💕💞
@Blastfence1
@Blastfence1 Жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums Жыл бұрын
Many thanks!
@BobCropsey
@BobCropsey 5 жыл бұрын
Great lesson. Thank you.
@omaribanez9092
@omaribanez9092 5 жыл бұрын
Jhon Riley philosophy, great stuff for the jazz drummer!! Greetings from México 🇲🇽!!
@Nathan00at78Uuiu
@Nathan00at78Uuiu Жыл бұрын
Have people talked about sonic coordination? I find it hard playing the ride pattern when random snare sounds are happening. So seems like getting used to that along with the physical movements are sources of coordination.
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums Жыл бұрын
You might consider this book: www.jonathancurtis.co.uk/brokentimedrumming it does away with anything "random", and focuses on phrasing and understanding the vocabulary very deeply.
@youssefammar2615
@youssefammar2615 3 жыл бұрын
Can you pls recommend interesting jazz drummers that I can listen to familiarize myself a bit with drumming in that genre
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely: - Tony Williams - Elvin Jones - Jack DeJohnette - Roy Haynes - Paul Motian - Jon Christensen - Brian Blade - Jeff “Tain” Watts Plenty there to be getting on with!
@johaballves8084
@johaballves8084 5 жыл бұрын
Excelente aula, parabéns!!
@StoicLoneWolf380
@StoicLoneWolf380 5 жыл бұрын
Love playing jazz! Put that 2 and 4 on auto-pilot on the hi-hat and play with the ride...
@tonybillly01
@tonybillly01 5 жыл бұрын
bravo...great...1 o 2 and 6 ..on the ride.
@peterequations
@peterequations 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Jonathan, can you tell me where you buy the sound absorbing panels?
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I got them from here: advancedacoustics-uk.com/ Hope that helps, thanks.
@bassmonk2920
@bassmonk2920 4 жыл бұрын
How do I get the hi-hat to always go to 2&4 is it an independence ability?
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 4 жыл бұрын
Yes absolutely. One idea is to make it a habit to play the hi-hat on 2 and 4 whenever you play and whatever you practice. Over time, you will find you are able to keep the hi-hat going without thinking about it. Be patient and persistent!
@houckbill
@houckbill 4 жыл бұрын
Can you share with us what ride cymbal you're playing, and the gram weight?
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, sorry for the delayed response. It's a Bosphorus Traditional Series 22" ride, at around 2100g.
@houckbill
@houckbill 4 жыл бұрын
@@JCurtisDrums Thank you.
@johnnyperki6267
@johnnyperki6267 5 жыл бұрын
So good brother!!
@bobbysands6923
@bobbysands6923 6 жыл бұрын
Ted Reed lives forever!!! I'm 60 and still use it!
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 6 жыл бұрын
bobby sands yep it’s timeless!
@RvP6384
@RvP6384 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video!! Subbed! (can't understand why people would dislike this video... Probably they kept their phone upside down)
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, and thanks for the kind comment. People will always find something to dislike, I wouldn't worry about it. Looking back in hindsight, I think this video is relatively immature compared to my more recent ones, and I do understand some people's aversion to my approach here. That said, plenty of people seem to be getting something out of it, nevertheless. Anyway, welcome aboard!
@lukegregg5944
@lukegregg5944 7 жыл бұрын
Good lesson Jonathan!
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@licenciadoensentidocomun70
@licenciadoensentidocomun70 5 жыл бұрын
When you are comping with your left on the snare using that Ted Reed´s you are doing it with a swing feel. So doing that syncopation with triples on the snare...I´m also studying that using straight eighth notes (without the swing feel) on the snare. Is that useful for playing jazz? Cos i´ve got the impression that most of the jazz drummers i hear they comp the snare with triplet feel. Can we also use straight eighth notes in a real situation? Sorry for the question but i never play jazz before! Cheers!
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 5 жыл бұрын
Hi there. Interesting questions. It is, of course, POSSIBLE to comp with straight 8ths against a swung ride cymbal. If performed well, it can create a sort of contrasting rhythmic affect against the triplet feel on the ride. The question is whether you'd really want to. Most swing swings because it swings! In my experience it's rarely a good idea to break that swing feel, and comping with straight 8ths would definitely break the swing feel. In direct answer to your question, you technical CAN use straight 8ths, but probably wouldn't want to in a "real situation". I would suggest a better use of your time is to become as proficient as possible with a triplet feel, and then explore further vocabulary to accentuate the swing, rather than contrasting it with straight 8th notes.
@licenciadoensentidocomun70
@licenciadoensentidocomun70 5 жыл бұрын
@@JCurtisDrums Excellent mate! thank you very much!
@rlkaras5673
@rlkaras5673 4 жыл бұрын
What hi hats are you using in this vid? I’ve seen it else where and I love the sound but i don’t know the brand or name
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Runebe. These particular hi-hats are 13" Bosphorus Antique series. I've also got their Master Vintage and Syncopation SW hi-hats, both 14", which feature in other videos. Cheers.
@rlkaras5673
@rlkaras5673 4 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Curtis thanks!
@moosey62
@moosey62 6 жыл бұрын
Great! Thanks!
@vivi-fe1jy
@vivi-fe1jy 6 жыл бұрын
thank for you help!!
@xaptronic
@xaptronic 6 жыл бұрын
Nice intro, "I can throw down, now let's talk"
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 6 жыл бұрын
Alex Pilon haha thanks. That was the idea!
@stephenfournier694
@stephenfournier694 5 жыл бұрын
Man, this really made so much sense! Thanks for the excellent instruction!!
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Stephen, I'm glad you liked it.
@VaguePlan
@VaguePlan 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@adamalexanderray
@adamalexanderray 7 жыл бұрын
Very informative and useful video. I subscribed as I was very interested in your soundproofing videos, especially as I converted my garage into a soundproof room not so long ago. I hope you are enjoying your well earned practice space. The issue I have with playing Jazz (and I think this is the big stumbling block for me with being able to approach it on the drums) is I just don’t listen to Jazz, and therefore don’t think or conceptualise within the common frameworks of the genre. One thing I love about drumming (and music generally) is how different you can approach the same instrument to evoke such contrasting expression. I find the conceptualisation and execution of the genre very interesting, but I just don’t think I’ve listened to enough Jazz to really “get it” subconsciously to influence my approach to the instrument. Any recommendations?
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Adam. Thank you for your comments, I'm glad you're enjoying the videos. The final video on the studio construction is coming, I just didn't want to upload it before the studio was completely finished. We've been working on drainage and external detailing, so we're nearly finished, but Part 8 is on its way! You're absolutely right about listening to it in order to conceptualise certain things. On the one hand, there is nothing wrong with studying jazz drumming from a purely technical or stylistic point of view to give yourself some new ideas and facility with other styles that you play. From a musical approach however, to play jazz the way most people expect it to be played (which is a good thing or not, depending on your opinions etc.), you would certainly need to dedicate a bit of time to listening to more jazz. As for recommendations, how about starting early and working forward. Take some early jazz like the early Count Bassie stuff, real swing era. Drummers like Papa and Philly Jo Jones. Then, anything with Miles Davis and Tony Williams, and John Coltrane and Elvin Jones. These two (Miles/Williams, Coltrane/Jones) really defined modern bebop. How about starting with "Four and More" by Miles Davis, and "Giant Steps" by Coltrane. Things that really influenced my playing: - For Musicians Only - Gillespie/Getz/Stitt - A Love Supreme - Coltrane - My Favourite Things - Coltrane - Miles Smiles - Davis More modern jazz: - Avishai Cohen - Gently Disturbed - Chick Corea Akoustic Band - Live at Tokyo Blue Note There's loads, but maybe check these out first. Good luck!
@RTFan52
@RTFan52 7 жыл бұрын
A slight quibble with this answer - Giant Steps had Art Taylor on drums (except Jimmy Cobb on the track Naima), Elvin joined Coltrane on the next album. Still definitely a classic album and an important one to listen to.
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 7 жыл бұрын
Good spot! Thanks for the correction.
@JesseP.Watson
@JesseP.Watson 6 жыл бұрын
Regarding learning jazz for technical gains, I can vouch for that... I'm not really interested in breaking into the jazz scene since it's a little too cerebral for my tastes (though I do enjoy it on occassion). Funk and break beats are my real passion. Since a lot of the great funk drummers were also jazz players it seemed logical to do likewise - to learn the rhythmic anscestry of the genre. That's paying off now, playing hip-hop with a group at the moment I'm able to find some heavy grooves in those simple beats as a result of my work exploring the different ways I might swing the 'jang-a-lang' ride pattern. Jazz does seem to open a window into elements of time-keeping that may be hard to access otherwise.
@christianescobedo66
@christianescobedo66 5 жыл бұрын
I hope I'm not the only one who wet my pants from that intro of the vid (I am a beginner so I might sound astound)
@physicsparty8963
@physicsparty8963 4 жыл бұрын
Love that drumming. Would the style. I better keep trying. :)
@Bob-nu3xe
@Bob-nu3xe 4 жыл бұрын
1.43 there's a lot more too it than that! yep a life time of learning to be precise
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 4 жыл бұрын
That’s the joy of it. A lifetime of learning.
@4realzibo669
@4realzibo669 6 жыл бұрын
Flawless
@markoleven3712
@markoleven3712 3 жыл бұрын
Thank God a jazz drummer lesson with a kick drum that not sounds like a biscuit tin played in a tunnel.
@olejakob9216
@olejakob9216 3 жыл бұрын
Ok so there is SO MANY positive things to say about this lesson but I’m gonna start with the end, so you say that as long as a person knows the jazz rhythms/how it SHOULD sound then coordination skills isn’t that big of a deal? In that case that’s the best news I’ve gotten today as I’m very bad at coordination 🙈 in my humble opinion jazz , if you think 1930-40 jazz isn’t rocket science (and I’m new to drumming overall) in big band jazz the important parts is the ride and the hi hat as you say yourself, not many drummers says that, they make jazz into this scary big monster but the way I see it you should start with the spangalang ride pattern and hihat and the snare and toms to me is just improvised spice to add, I’m weak for snare “bombs” in swing jazz, this is how I’ve been playing around with jazz drumming but because of comments about this great mythical art form of jazz drumming I get served I get demotivated thinking I’m doing it all wrong when jamming to stuff like big band music, what’s your thoughts about this?
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, and thanks for your kind comments. I think you are having a very important revelation, by the sound of it! You absolutely do not need extremely high levels of coordination to play jazz. What you do need is a willingness to express yourself, the music, and to listen to what is happening around you. It is true that some of the more "advanced" patterns that some people like to play in jazz require some pretty stiff coordination, but these aren't required to make the music sound good, they are just different ways in which that particular drummer might like to express themselves. Honestly, a good jazz drummer could make the music swing with nothing but a ride cymbal, which, assuming you're playing it with one hand, requires no coordination whatsoever, just a good grasp of the rhythms you are trying to express. Don't worry about doing anything wrong. If nothing else, jazz music is about exploration and expression. If you're expressing yourself truly, you're doing it right, whether it's with the most advanced and complex pattern imaginable, or a simple swing pattern on the ride. I think the best thing you could do is to listen to as much jazz as possible, and make the connection between what the drummer is doing and the music with which they are playing. You'll see that all of the "advanced" phrasing is just decoration on top of the main theme. The main role is to provide a solid and swinging time feel. Go forth and swing, my friend!
@olejakob9216
@olejakob9216 3 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks for the long and detailed answer, I see that we think about jazz the very same way, to me jazz is very much improv around a basic rhythm, I like music like that cause it’s easy to learn and when u feel comfy with let’s say an easy ride pattern you can have fun with adding stuff, same with stuff like rock and the money beat, boring but so easy to make exciting when you get into the groove, drums are so deliciously free to me compared to other instruments (probably because I know the basics of drums more than let’s say guitar but😅) improv on drums is the best 😍 I like free jazz but my problem with free jazz is that I only love the drum parts and it’s impossible to really groove to, I like the late jazz like the 50s and 60s but I relay a lot on listening to the other musicians because I feel I do a better job then but newer jazz or well 50-60s is very difficult to follow because the horns are all over the place, like I’m doing a basic ride pattern and everything goes smooth and boom the trumpet takes a really sharp turn and just dances away everywhere 😂😂😂 Improv is fun for a beginner at least I think cause I forget to think so much about basics like oh I should count those one and a two an a, all the A’s 😫 I just find a nice pattern and get an ok feel about what the other players do and goes from there, I’m a really good listener so I think that’s what’s saving me
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 2 жыл бұрын
Hi again. It's been a while, but I thought I'd check in an see how you're getting on. Are you having any success in your own jazz playing? You might be interested in my own book on jazz drumming. I can email you a free sample if you like, and I'd love to talk more about it with you. Feel free to drop me a message at www.jonathancurtis.co.uk and I can email you through a sample. Best wishes!
@Introspectiverider99
@Introspectiverider99 3 жыл бұрын
1:10 so true lol
@starkid9736
@starkid9736 2 жыл бұрын
top
@bowgart5567
@bowgart5567 3 жыл бұрын
i want to learn jazz drumming just to spice up my playing
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 2 жыл бұрын
Hi there. Really sorry for the slow reply! Did you ever pursue learning jazz drumming? I agree that it's a great way to spice up your playing. If you'd like to discuss it further, please drop me a message through my website www.jonathancurtis.co.uk You might be interested in a free sample of my book on jazz drumming; otherwise I'd just like to hear how your own jazz studies are progressing!
@markielinhart
@markielinhart 2 жыл бұрын
That you are technically brilliant and a good teacher is beyond dispute, but your casual dismissal of John Riley and his books, not to mention his extensive library of videos, does you little favour. What Riley has is soul. In spades. Have you watched his Jazz Soloing video on The Art of Drumming? ✌️🌻
@JCurtisDrums
@JCurtisDrums 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words, but I think you are misunderstanding my thoughts on John Riley. Not only have I extensively studied both of John’s Bop Drumming books, but I know him personally and have worked with him on a specialised jazz book since this video was published. No one is a bigger John Riley fan than I am. That doesn’t mean we have to agree on everything though. He and I had long discussions about concepts, yet managed to do it cordially and respectfully. It’s been years since I made this video so I can’t recall what precisely I say about John here, but I assure you it is coming from a place of admiration and respect. Have a watch or this, and that should be clearer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/boXNqJSdj9ONlZI
@azotro
@azotro Жыл бұрын
im only here because of whiplash
@Ericbjohnston5150
@Ericbjohnston5150 6 жыл бұрын
A real drummer can play Sing sing sing. jk
@spark_6710
@spark_6710 4 жыл бұрын
That is a COOL piece featured real COOL drummings ! I much prefer that version than w/ vocal version which sucked ! My mom was a jazz singer ,she hated singing that song on the stages ,too ! Lol. I really LOVE that drumming work in that tune ! I still play it ( cd ) often to this day ! 👍💜💜💜🥁🎵🐉🎤🎶💞
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