Introduction to Orthodoxy: The First 7 Ecumenical Councils - Jay Dyer

[@JayDyer]

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[@TrueEngieBengie]

I was wondering when you would go back to making these shorter, pre-recorded style of videos. I honestly think they are my favorite ones.

[@LarryRiedel]

Yeah my ideal is basically getting chapters of an eBook with visuals (even if the visual is a talking head host of the time).

[@matthewgalicia1101]

More inquirers and catechumens incoming

[@Цар_Антоний]

God willing.

[@pabloescareno7422]

@@Цар_Антонийno he’s right .your talking to one here 🙋‍♂️🙋‍♂️🙋‍♂️

[@cade8559]

Hey Jay, could you do an introductory video on the Masoretic text vs the Septuagint (And by extension the Deuterocanon) and why the Eastern Orthodox Church uses the Septuagint?

[@MattigityIsBombigity]

This, please this.

[@BrodyAleksander-YOB]

☝️

[@richardwright359]

I'm part of the oca saint silouan orthodox church in marysville california 🙏 pray for us we're still getting on our feet so thanks for the information it's good to hear

[@anthonylopez1077]

I'm really learning and writing notes. Thank you Jay!

[@UnprofitableServant-bq3mx]

TBH Jay and Tristan Haggard were my first contact with holy orthodoxy I've crossed the threshold and am in process of entering the church. Praise Gods Holy name!

[@wjckc79]

I just had my first catechumen class.

[@IC_XC_NIKA]

Yes the 7 ecumenical councils. Thanks Jay Dyer! 🔥🔥

[@CFChristian]

This is exactly what I was hoping for!

[@anthonym.7653]

Love visiting these older videos. Learning a lot in these smaller doses. Thanks, Jay

[@chrisdelarrabeiti3884]

Love this style of video Jay. Awesome job

[@richardwright359]

I was wondering about them 😇 I'm glad you're part of the family 👍 love the videos keep them coming 😁

[@George-ur8ow]

The last stop on the train for the search for Christian truth is at the Orthodox Church. The voyage is a tough one, don't get me wrong. The most difficult part is coming around to submitting to it, once you have found it. If you are from a protestant background like myself, you have to accept that you are not an ecumenical council unto yourself. You have to let it go in order to get off at the stop. The gift of the Church has been given to us. It is up to you to become a participant in the body of Christ.

[@Disciple550]

As an inquiring Protestant three years after your comment, thank you

[@George-ur8ow]

@@Disciple550 God be with you. I did not mention this in my original comment, but my beloved & kind wife was not happy with my decision to become Orthodox. Glory to God in the highest, she is now a Catachumen. Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy on me.

[@Disciple550]

@@George-ur8ow amazing. I’m glad your wife now shares your beliefs. Pray for me

[@George-ur8ow]

@@Disciple550 i will include you in my prayers tonight/tomorrow. What is your first name so I can reference you? (Not required to give it to me of course, but it might be helpful)

[@Disciple550]

@@George-ur8ow my name is Ethan. No one has ever told me they would pray for me in this way before. It means a lot. Thank you friend

[@naturelady6750]

Making a playlist of these videos thank you, Jay.

[@remcbride2008]

I like these short informative talks!

[@maralyngray6472]

Thx for these explanations Jay.

[@josephedwardlyons2046]

Jay ,great videos and you have done your research .can you make a video of recommend books that you feel should be in every orthodox library as a convert. thanks.

[@MES77913]

Thank you so much Jay, this is exactly what I have been hoping you would eventually cover.

[@alexcovell6905]

It looks like you are getting more organized with your videos! You will gain a lot more followers that way and spread Orthodoxy.

[@JetShanghai]

FIRST (Ecumenical council)

[@normanernesto8503]

Wonderful format!

[@JackTimothy]

Excellent content as always.

[@Bryce4Belle]

Sounds like it's pretty cool to join them.

[@JetShanghai]

Please become Orthodox Christian.

[@bretgreeno]

Noiiice. Super excited.

[@TheRealRealOK]

Awesome.

[@Aristos_Arete]

Great stuff, thanks!

[@figgynut777]

I just noticed.. The number 7 symbolically represents fullness and the Orthodox Church has The 7 Ecumenical Councils.. coincidence or fullness of faith??

[@davefigthe3rd]

🤯

[@carlosm6759]

Very insightful

[@raymondmurillo]

Great video

[@kasperg5634]

Our making soon our maker did we deem.

[@stuckmannen3876]

I'm a Protestant... Can anyone pls explain what dictates the ‘final’ authority in orthodoxy? I've heard someone call it “community memory”... Let's say a big dispute occurs how does the matter settle? (And the bishops don't agree and communicate each other.) If community memory is valid, Does “community memory” mean whatever is “left standing” / or whatever has survived the “test of time” and therefore been accepted by the church as a whole, and therefore been ‘adopted’ into church tradition?

[@dimitrispeiraias]

Keep in mind that any act of any authority in the Church could never be incompatible with what was ALWAYS and EVERYWHERE lived and believed by ALL the Saints. It's a matter of a continuous living experience! That is a certain difference in the Orthodox view of Theology! Both Roman Catholicism and Protestantism have a theology based on the beliefs of one individual who is either the Pope or the protestant believer! In the Orthodox Church, we entirely trust in the living experience of the Whole Church! Infallibility is a gift that was bestowed on the oneness of the whole Church, because Church is the wholeness of a mystical body whose Head is the only infallible Son of man Who is the incarnated Son of God! For this very reason infallibility could be found only in the wholeness of the body of Christ Who is formed (Gal. 4:19) in the Saints according to the measure of the gift of Christ! (Eph. 4:7) In the wholeness of Church "for the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ" (Eph. 4:12-13) Therefore the wholeness of a gift such as infallibility is expressed in the Ecumenical Councils by fulfilling the criteria of Universality, Antiquity and Consensus! Church is Jesus Christ's mystical body where He feed us on His own Flesh and we quench our thirst for life with His precious Blood! We could never join Him out of His mystical body which is the Church ! Of course as there is only one Lord so there is only one Church, the ancient one that was founded by Christ Himself and keeps the Orthodox faith!!! On the other hand, the presumption that the true faith could be infallibly apprehended out of the Oneness of the Whole Church is a spiritual quicksand! Thousands of different heretical views cause a spiritual confusion and a constant state of uncertainty. Anyway you are always welcomed to experience the fullness of Christ's mystery in the Orthodox Church!

[@stuckmannen3876]

@@dimitrispeiraias Thanks a lot! I didn't expect to get such a long elaborate answer. I really appreciate it! :) It's starting to make sense to me.

[@dimitrispeiraias]

God bless you, my friend!

[@thewholecouncilofGod]

Just one thing, you mentioned that protestant theology starts with soteriology, but if you look at typical protestant theological texts, they usually start with the doctrine of revelation (to establish the doctrine of the source of theology), then theology proper (which covers the Trinity and the attributes of God), then anthropology, then Christology, then pneumatology, and only then do protestants cover soteriology, followed by ecclesiology and eschatology. Soteriology is (significantly) often the 6th major subject studied, because as you mentioned, it flows out of the Trinity and the Trinitarian work.

[@JayDyer]

I was not referring to the logical procedure in the written doctrinal manuals, but their actual mental presuppositions, which actually begins with the decree.

[@elijohnson2163]

@Jay Dyer I bought the "Orthodox Christian Study Bible: Ancient Christianity Speaks to To Todays World". Check it out on Amazon and tell me what you think and if I made the right choice. I've been back onto this path of faith once again since I fell away in 8th Grade Middle School after my Confirmation was completed, I then proceeded to go through my teenage years of Radical Atheism like most do, and like many nowadays seem to be stuck in even once they've become a man....sad. ANYWAYS, It was 90% caused by watching E Michael Jones & Nick Fuentes long enough & I did some digging of my own too and found mainly Catholicism was the 1 true denomination, especially with Jesus creating it via Peter the 1st Pope whole thing, that really won me over hearing this many times. THEN my father wasn't pleased because I was raised Lutheran & he REALLY hates Catholicism due to going to a Catholic school for 5 years of his life..so he said to me this 1 thing that broke it all and kept me searching: "If they're the true church, why are they Idolaters when they pray to Mary?? I had no come back and it sent me on my way and I've already watched & listened to your stuff for more than a few years now but not intently on the strictly religious portions and since I have, It's lead me to the purchase of this $40 VERY LARGE Bible and I wanted help or your opinion. Is their anyway I can email you maybe even?? I have no Orthodox Churches in my town or within 60 miles of me...I need help understanding so,e things AND also would like your advice on what to do with no Orthodox Church in my town & how to proceed from here. If you can, thanks in advance so very much. If not? I understand, you're a pretty famous & very busy fella. For now, I bid you farewell, and may God Bless You Sir.

[@dimitrispeiraias]

Obtaining the Orthodox Study Bible is an important first step. However, the Orthodox faith is a living faith and you get it from living persons by being connected to a local living community! In the meantime, just let your heart overflow with joy and love! Pour out that overflow to everyone in your everyday life! Orthodox life is a real revelation of Joy and Love! Be brave and wise! Feel free to express any concern or dilemma to anyone who lives and believes in the Orthodox Way. Above all, keep hoping and praying. Sunday will dawn soon!

[@wattsobx]

that begs though how does orthodoxy determine what is an ecumenical council? Looks like within orthodoxy you have the chancedonia vs non chacedonia schism...(one refutes the 4th council) and the RCC have more...so how are they determined?

[@e.omonarchy8506]

I couldn't find the quote you said from St. Cyril in the two letters to Succensus

[@JayDyer]

10. Even after the resurrection the same body which had suffered continued to exist, although it no longer contained any human weakness. We maintain that it was no longer susceptible to hunger or weariness or anything like this, but was thereafter incorruptible, and not only that but life-giving as well since it is the body of Life, that is the body of the Only Begotten. Now it is radiant with divine glory and is seen to be the body of God. So, even if someone should call it ‘divine’ just as one might call a man’s body ‘human’, such a fitting thought would not be mistaken. In my opinion this is what the most-wise Paul said: ‘Even if we have known Christ according to the flesh, nonetheless we know him so no longer’ (2 Cor.5.16). As I have said, because it was God’s own body it transcended all human things, yet the earthly body itself did not undergo a transformation into the nature of Godhead, for this is impossible, otherwise we would be accusing the Godhead of being created and of receiving into itself something which was not part of its own nature. It would be just as foolish an idea to talk of the body being transformed into the nature of Godhead as it would to say the Word was transformed into the nature of flesh. For just as the latter is impossible (for he is unchangeable and unalterable) so too is the former. It is not possible that any creature could be converted into the essence or nature of Godhead, and the flesh is a created thing. We maintain, therefore, that Christ’s body is divine in so far as it is the body of God, adorned with unspeakable glory, incorruptible, holy, and life-giving; but none of the holy Fathers has ever thought or said that it was transformed into the nature of Godhead, and we have no intention of doing so either.

[@JayDyer]

The deification is not the essence, and not a creature. orthodoxjointcommission.wordpress.com/2013/12/15/first-letter-of-cyril-to-succensus/

[@e.omonarchy8506]

@@JayDyer yes but there was no mention of the Eucharist in the letter, I was looking for that.

[@Gitfidlpickr]

There were many councils and very few presenters (of videos) are clear about which 7 they have selected. They are important to the Orthodox Christians (because they are the "original" and somewhat true to Christian doctrine of 33 AD). The Roman church has been apostate and untrue to the gospels .. they two churches are doctrinally equivalent .. Rome (especially today) is apostate. Orthodox is the closest to original and it NOT apostate,. Thus it is a true Christian theology (see Mark 8:14)

[@CookInTech84]

Read a Protestant church history book, the authors criticized the early church for discussing worship at a council because they aren't out preaching (losing focus on what the mission is)... BUT will not criticize the Divines of the Westminster Assembly? 😒 Was a Sinclair Ferguson, Joel Beeke book.

[@brnrik500]

i am a 1%er. i understand about 1% of what Jay says. fo real! Lol ... weight loss, trucker pills! Lol Godspeed!!!

[@bigbosssauce7]

Some guy is trying to tell me that at the sixth and seventh councils, the infallibility and supremacy of the pope was confirmed. I have never heard this, nor can I find any information about this. Do you know what he would be talking about?? Is there something that he is misinterpreting?

[@Ancalagon-iu4uq]

Jay - Please debate or just have a conversation with Pine Creek Doug.

[@skullknight4282]

Jay why did you block me and never said anything to you comment on any of your post or had any type of interaction with you.

[@_ALF_03]

...Whats with the Like count?

[@rsk5660]

Did the church ever discuss how Jesus could be a real man if he did not have a human personality? Jesus is sometimes called the man and also a man. Can an analogy be made with a dog (with a dog body etc.) being controlled by a human personality. Could this really be called a dog. Thanks to anyone who can help me with this.

[@blizzardblaise]

I have a question. I’ve heard you mention that there were 8 councils in another video. What is the 8th one? When was it?

[@JayDyer]

www.oodegr.com/english/dogma/synodoi/8th_Synod_Dragas.htm

[@blizzardblaise]

@@JayDyer Thank you!

[@HellenicLegend7]

Actually, many Orthodox believe (myself included) that there are 9 Ecumenical Councils. The 9th was held in 1341-49-51 (St. Gregory Palamas) oodegr.com/english/dogma/synodoi/oik_syn1.htm#11

[@HellenicLegend7]

There are 9 Ecumenical Councils! We Orthodox shouldn’t downplay the last 2 Ecumenical Councils.

[@PeterEsq77]

The Bible in a nutshell: how to transfer one’s “sins” on to someone else.

[@dimitrispeiraias]

Peter, it's not a matter of transference. It's a matter of transformation! Thus, the real question is whether there is an authentic Christianity besides the Orthodox Christianity! The mystery of God is the mystery of the Uncreated Eternal Life Who is Ecstatic Love! Christianity isn't meant to be about a distant transaction between us and God! It is a transformational fullness of Life! It is about experiencing the fullness of Christ's mystery! Such an experience is really crucial in order to truly Know the Uncreated God! Only the Uncreated is Immortal and the cause of life and immortality! It follows that isolating anything created from its Creator causes the process of its erosion! That process is reversible which means redeemable only by communing with God's Uncreated energies! It's about Theosis in the Orthodox Theology! It's about a transcendental transformation by experiencing God's Uncreated energies. The protestant and roman catholic theology denies that the created may commune with the Uncreated God by denying God's Uncreated energies! However, our life cries out for fullness! We won't experience Life that is Life to the full, unless we experience the Eternal! Experiencing the Eternal is not about daydreaming! Experiencing the Eternal is about living for real by experiencing God Who is Life to the full! Of course, we could never commune with God's essence but we may commune with God's Uncreated energies by experiencing the Divine and human person of Christ! This way we may partake of His Life and live for real! His Life becomes our Life! He literally is our Resurrection! You are always welcomed to experience the mystery of God's Love in the Orthodox Church! May God's Life be your Life, so that you may experience Life that is Life to the full! God bless you and Live for real!