Investigating the Black Prince's Tomb

A team of scientists and art historians take a closer look at the Black Prince's tomb in an attempt to discover who commissioned it and who made it.

[@robertlukacs4954]

I love the history of the Middle Ages. Seeing Edward’s effigy in the video and hearing about his will brought me to tears. He’s right there, but at the same time he’s not.

[@dede19833]

Well, as he wanted to be written: pray for his soul 🙏 😊

[@michellec8546]

Amazing epitaph. The Prince acknowledges he's had so much in life yet in the end is as mortal as everyone else.

[@kittymervine6115]

though, he was quite the warrior!

[@davidevans3227]

eternal prayers for his soul

[@rodmact6548]

So Canterbury...when do we get to hear about the findings? It's been over two years.

[@emilypegues4610]

The findings are being published in the November 2021 issue of The Burlington Magazine.

[@alpacinoravidutt]

@@emilypegues4610 is there an article? Where can we see it?

[@mediocremaiden8883]

I don't think their publishing and sales area covers Edmond, Oklahoma 🤔

[@TheCandiceWang]

Now I know why this backgroind piece haunted me emotionally immediately. I now recognize it. Same or similar piece was used in some of the most emotive, raw, powerful storytelling in the series "Hannibal."

[@RonaldJMacDonald]

During his lifetime he was known as Edward of Woodstock. The title of Black Prince developed after his death and may refer to the black armour that he wore.

[@lucopeland7874]

are you having a laugh 🤣🤦🏾‍♂️europe was ruled by black kings from back in the days you lot came and saw us 👍🏾we taught you everything it’s only after cromwell and them lot rebelled because how the whites were being treated chopped off kings head ,1789 ended black rule in europe french revolution ,even the celts were black so was the stuart royal family scottish were black history has just been hijacked whitewashed 🤣

[@BBeowulf]

There’s no evidence he actually wore black armour. It more likely comes from the shield he adopted from Johann the blind or from his treatment of the French.

[@sinamor77]

He was from Ethiopia

[@gnasher688]

@@sinamor77 - 😂😂😂😂

[@gnasher688]

@@BBeowulf - I would agree it came from the Prince’s admiration of John of Bohemia which is still in place today with the “Ich Dein” being used for the Prince of Wales meaning “I serve” 🇬🇧

[@sylviawilson9748]

What a treasure, I loved seeing it. From South Africa.

[@jasontillett]

Ahh another South African!!! I love history ☺️

[@3John-Bishop]

I saw this tomb back in the mid 80s.

[@Eduardo-uo7qs]

Amazing Tomb. Congratulations for the vídeo and great job. I visited a lot of ancient places in the United Kingdom : Westminster Abbey, Guildford Castle, Urquhart Castle, St Wulfram's Church. Tower of London, Edinburgh Castle. But, unfortunately not the Canterbury Cathedral, not yet. From Rio Brazil.

[@loyalist5736]

You like castles my friend.

[@mdh5037]

Yea. Why you ask?

[@trojanette8345]

BLESSED BE!! You all are to be commended for all the carefully planned and meticulously executed (research) work you did on behalf of the King. I'm sure if he had been around he too, would be impressed with the care and reverence lavished upon him. I do have one final question, though. Q: If HM was (supposedly) buried elsewhere why go through all the time, effort and expense to have such a hollow empty 'vessel' made for his body? Learning curve for me, here. I have always assumed that burial locations with the fancy / ornate, effigy / sculptures always contained the bodies. Correct me if I am wrong.

[@chipnewton9620]

I've visited to Canterbury Cathedral and stood next to this effigy. Even as an American, who doesn't know the history or traditions of the House Plantagenet, i felt as though I was indeed in the presence of this warrior prince. It's incredible to see in real life and i encourage anyone to go and become a pilgrim to the cathedral.

[@heru-deshet359]

That portable X-Ray machine looks like an oversized photon gun from Star Trek.

[@Foxglove963]

Heru-deshet. So what? Is that's all what interests you, then turn the telly on, you'll learn next to nothing from star trek.

[@davehoward22]

@@Foxglove963 it was a joke..calm down

[@ElizabethEstervig]

How much you to bet the design of it was a Star Trek fan? Like the cell phone?

[@thedarkforce9596]

Geek test lol

[@bluesdirt5889]

The coffins were amazing back then do they know who the artist was ?

[@Wade_Fucking_Wilson]

Blues Dirt danny devito

[@junn805]

@@Wade_Fucking_Wilson ok this is epic

[@michaelwhite8031]

Great video

[@viperexpress305]

Master workers that didn't need a college education !

[@beverlyfletcher4458]

Apprenticeships work for some people!

[@BattleGn0me]

just therapy for mercury poisoning

[@USA50_]

I love his epitaph! Many times I think of saying similar things on my tombstone as well. 😂

[@emilypegues4610]

For the commenters who have asked, the findings from this study and a subsequent follow-up with endoscopy (to look inside the effigy) are being published in the November 2021 issue of The Burlington Magazine. Thank you for your interest.

[@Spikur]

A little out of topic but is there results from the CT Scan of the shield avalible?

[@GFSLombardo]

No one knows with metaphysical certitude why Edward the" Black Prince" chose to be buried at Canterbury Cathedral instead of Westminster Abbey, for example, which had become the traditional resting place for the English royal family. Canterbury Cathedral was ,and is, a very important place in English Christian history and is strongly associated with pilgrimage and penance. So its plausible Edward may have had a "death bed conversion" type situation and felt he had many sins to repent for. Or, as he was not actually King he did not "merit" burial at Westminster, even though he died in London. Or not....?

[@jackmatthews2961]

I think that he felt after the najera campaign that he had lost the grace of God. After the campaign things only got worse and it would seem he wanted god's forgiveness for supporting a ruler who supported Muslims and murdered his wife.

[@chrisball3778]

There are a lot of royal burials in Westminster Abbey, but its never been the sole royal burial site. When Edward died in 1376, only a minority of royals had been buried at Westminster. Many of the early Norman kings weren't even buried in England, as they felt more attachment to their feudal lands in France. Several of the others are dotted around various English cathedrals and abbeys. Since George III died in 1820, they've all been buried at Windsor Castle. In medieval times, it was popular to be buried at a religious institution you'd donated money to, as the residents would repay the honour by saying regular Mass in your name, which was believed to shorten your time in purgatory. He might have given Canterbury money at some point. Then again, Edward was a very ruthless and feared warrior, so he'd have had ample reason to feel he should do penance as well.

[@darthdmc]

@@chrisball3778 The oldest surviving royal tomb in England is that of King John, in Worcester Cathedral. William II, Henry I and Stephen were all buried in England, but their tombs have been lost/destroyed (the latter 2 due to the reformation, I believe)

[@TheCandiceWang]

He did seem very penitent and a deep believer during life. The moving and exceptionally inspiring leaders of history always are the ones who may have had little choice to commit evil for perhaps reasons they saw as righteous, but did not want to and deeply feel and try to repent of their sin. I often wonder how He measures those princes and counties and kings and empresses and regents against what amounts to responsibility for much much killing.

[@chrisball3778]

@@darthdmc There are a lot of early 'Royal Burials' at Winchester Cathedral, although nobody really knows how many of them were genuine. Historical records certainly suggest that it was a major royal burial site. There are loads of chests full of bones there that have been basically randomly declared to have been those of certain early kings. Whatever way you look at it, there has never been a single established royal burial ground for English royalty- which was the point I was trying to make- the fact that Edward the Black Prince was buried at Canterbury, rather than Westminster wasn't inherently strange or suspicious

[@PathoLab]

1:05 I was like what???? Then oh

[@skomil]

Literally did exactly the same

[@rodmact6548]

Gotta be the first time I was ever fooled by knees!

[@emilypegues4610]

These comments made me so uncomfortable and unhappy.

[@ultracapitalistutopia3550]

Amber Butchart’s Stitch in Time (the Black Prince’s jupon) brought me here.

[@TheCandiceWang]

Interesting that his actual surname would be Plantagenet after all. I've heard him referred to as The Black Prince, Edward of Woodstock, son and heir of the King. I don't often see the tomb names but since there were so many Plantagenet trees I don't know how many have the actual surname and on their tomb.

[@rgwholt]

Its not their surname , its a dynasty name , Plantagenet came long the Black Prince died

[@alpacinoravidutt]

@@rgwholt really? When was the name plantagenet first used? Want Henry ii called Henry plantagenet during his time?

[@BBeowulf]

@@alpacinoravidutt ignore that person they have no idea what they are talking about. Henry II was the first Plantagenet to rule England and the last was Richard III in 1485. “Surname” and “dynasty name” are also the same thing. Plantagenet is both the dynasty and surname.

[@brianrodney5202]

There is, in my hometown of Leeds,Yorkshire, a equestrian statue of the Black Prince - right there in City Square.

[@CanterburyCathedralOfficial]

He was an incredibly popular/infamous figure. There have been a great number of books, paintings, memorabilia and even feature films made about him. It would be good to see a picture of the statue.

[@klaus3794]

I hope so.

[@rodgerkent2078]

Yes my home city is Leeds ,and have stopped many times to take a look at the Black Prince statue

[@gregstone3809]

Amazing.

[@ferencrupeck845]

I once heard about some Americans (being shown around Warwick Castle) & the tour guide mentioned The Black Prince. They really thought that a member of the British Royal Family in the 14th century was black!

[@mscott3918]

That is, unfortunately, a sign of the times. Just like people who claim that King James I, King Charles II and Queen Charlotte were black.

[@richardtomlinson242]

People always say it's because he wore a suit of black armor. However, there is no evidence that he ever owned a suit of black armor. Armor was not made of black metal, nor was it dyed black. His brother John, like Edward, had coat of arms with a black background, but John never developed that title. What's more, is that if you read the physical description of their mother, Phillipa of Hainult, she clearly had the physical characteristics (or in part) of an African woman. Plus Edward was known to the French as 'Le Noir' since early childhood. Long before he picked up a sword to be a brutal warrior. It highlights that he like his mother, had a dark skin tone, possibly more dusky than she. You forget that in the 14th century powerful kingdoms flourished in Africa as well as in Europe, so diplomatic marriages would have taken place regardless of colour. Colour first became an issue in 1492... but was official coded in the second half of the 16th century in colonial North America and Europe.

[@richardtomlinson242]

@@mscott3918 King James I wasn't and King Charles II wasn't. However Queen Charlotte WAS partly descendant from African moors, distantly from a woman called Madragana of Faro. However, her maternal grandfather is speculated to be Abram Petrovich Hannibal. Just be open minded about these things. History has all kinds of hidden avenues.

[@brendaharper5998]

Fascinating. Sad as things are in Britain these days, I still find myself wishing it were I who lived there up until the 17th century, and not my ancestors. For reasons I've never been able to explain, not even to my own satisfaction, since my earliest recollection, I have felt a powerful affinity for all things English. Go figure....

[@roybatty3194]

Artere Laksamana Let's be honest,....in those times they could literally make up any shit they wanted in order to have you killed! And you were lucky if it was by hanging or beheading as they had far more excruciating and drawn out methods of death. Sometimes they didn't even bother to come up with a reason as to why you were being put to death.......you would just simply disappear!

[@GFSLombardo]

Life was only passably good for the elite 1%. Since your ancestors emigrated, apparently they did not make the cut. Life for the 99% was essentially short, brutal and nasty. Count your blessings...

[@MajicMongoose62]

Brenda Harper , my mom was the same way. She dreamed about visiting there...

[@1346crecy]

Well I'm a Londoner lived in London all my life. Things in Britain are great! Do we have problems ,of course, but what country doesn't? I have travelled all round Europe and America and can safely say I have never been tempted to live anywhere else. Do not believe what you read in the Press or see on tv. If you want to know a country visit it!

[@CleversonSantos]

@Artere Laksamana Just because you are lazy and pumppered it doesnt mean other people are just like you... smartphones and other gudgets are not fundamental in our life, in fact they ve just alpeared recentely... Why such a fuss about it....

[@klaus3794]

Where is the video, please? I need it badly. :)

[@oldedwardian1778]

There are some people who have commented here about the WASTE of public money for these sorts of investigations. Let me hurry to say that I am not one of those, I consider this work, very interesting and VERY WORTHWHILE. However I would appreciate knowing what the source of the funds was for this work.

[@emilypegues4610]

Thanks for your interest in the work. It's great to have people talking about how to fund academic research. This work is NOT publicly-funded. Like much academic research, support for it has been cobbled together from multiple sources. We applied successfully to some (private, not tax payer-funded) small research grants, we persuaded some (private) organisations to lend us expertise or equipment, and we paid for some expenses from our own pockets, because that was what it took to conduct the research we wanted to do. The project is still active; since it lives alongside a lot of other work commitments among our international team, it will be a while longer before we publish (whereupon we will duly thank by name the groups who have kindly funded us). Research takes time, especially when you have to stop to write grant applications!

[@CanterburyCathedralOfficial]

@@emilypegues4610 Thanks for responding, it's really helpful to be able to give followers this kind of insight into the level of dedication and support that is required in order to carry out this research. Indeed there continues to be a misunderstanding about how the Cathedral itself is funded and most people believe that we receive financial support from the Government like some museums, galleries or heritage sites. They are often quite surprised when they learn that we receive no government funding and that in order to sustain the Cathedral we have to rely on our own revenue streams, donations and patrons. Alongside the work the team and yourself are carrying out we are also researching further into the Black Princes achievements and recently put the shield through a CT scanner. Again, this was funded by externals sources and we paid the NHS in order to use the facilities out of hours so that the work could take place. Between this and many other research projects our understanding of history expands and improves at an unprecedented rate and we are gradually able to dispel some of the myths that have emerged over the years. I guess in someways the work thats taking place today with the help of modern science and technology is the closest we'll get to time travel. Thanks for the excellent work you guys are doing. We are really looking forward to reading the outcomes.

[@klaus3794]

@@emilypegues4610 Sorry, that people have no idea what you are doing and how much time you donate! Give me an address and I send you $500 to cover a little at least! BTW. I revised, illustrated and republishes Froissarts Chronicles of the 100 Year War, have a look at Amazon,UK -

[@edwardvickers5506]

I dont understand why you dont open the tomb. Surely you could investigate the bones and articles left.Has the tomb ever been opened ? Is the remains in the visible casket or are they buried deeper in the floor?

[@CanterburyCathedralOfficial]

To our knowledge the tomb has never been opened. There are certainly quite a few people who would be keen to open the tomb but this raises a number of moral and conservational questions/challenges, not to mention it's a Royal tomb so it's not that straight forward. As the tomb itself is located in the Trinity Chapel it is most likely that the bones are inside the visible casket as underneath the tomb lay the Cathedral's Crypt. There was one tomb opened during the 1850's, that of Archbishop Hubert Walter, it sit's alongside the Black Prince. Some of the items that were removed will be going on display next year in the Cathedral Crypt (silks, jewellery, silver etc.) but we'll have more on that nearer the time.

[@Foxglove963]

Edward Vickers. Would you object if they opened the grave of your mother? The Black Prince's remains are not within the effigy. You ask rather silly questions.

[@jwnagy]

The only silly questions are the ones that aren't asked. The truly silly are those that prevent people from asking questions.

[@3John-Bishop]

They open all the pharohs tombs without question. Why not here? They opened Edward I tomb once. Does an x-ray scan show whsts inside?

[@edwardvickers5506]

@@Foxglove963 dont be so stupid,how do you find out things if they're not investigated.The Black prince is long dead so i dont think anyone would really object,they've examined royal tombs in the past and Mummies and bog bodies.I'm sure examining the bones and any grave items would be fascinating.

[@brendanclarke8072]

I had everything horses and curtains He really did have everything

[@shiningstar2903]

Wonder if he meant immense, dense fabric bed curtains?

[@sharonhoare5790]

Curtains were a luxury and took ages to make especially if they were also embroidered as many were,

[@3John-Bishop]

@@sharonhoare5790 did he mean curtains around the bed?

[@sharonhoare5790]

@@3John-Bishop possibly. Sadly this is not my area of expertise but extensive reading in the past shows curtains to be a luxury item.

[@bmw335hdk2]

Rest in Peace MiLord.... until 2017..

[@richardsingh5827]

Decent curtains are still something I like

[@idratherbeaphilthanajustin9533]

Indeed! It's very problematic!

[@Lulu-ut9pv]

He was very popular in his life time shame he never became king but is young son did

[@sorceressofaeaea]

I was moved to my very soul by this epitaph. The man did some bad things, however, I feel sympathy for him.

[@Minime163]

Hopefully God does too

[@grantwalker4859]

He may have done some bad things, but in those days it was the norm. In 800 years time they will probably be saying the exact same thing about us.

[@janicesmyth1713]

When I visit Canterbury Cathedral I pay my respects to the black prince and st. Thomas .

[@christophercannon5068]

Cool

[@christopherwarwick5956]

who provided the background music?

[@cosmiclevi5274]

reply to boost the popularity of this comment, cuz I wanna know too :P

[@KatarzynaWojciechowska1]

What's the music in the background?

[@sniper1pk]

the archeologists discovered that there wuz kangz

[@EBUNNY2012]

Do they speak in hushed voices because they might wake him up?

[@patrickhows1482]

Presumably because they are in a place of worship.

[@Minime163]

Out of respect for the dead and of peoples beliefs even if they don't necessarily share them

[@mscott3918]

No, they are in the first church built in England. It's called respect.

[@adriankaill9413]

And in American ancient history is the 1850s

[@nojnoj3069]

And if they find something really special, we will never know about it. Fact.

[@klaus3794]

By the way - my logo left was always Edward - son of King Edward III. (Black Prince) I would like to find out why he wanted to be buried in Canterbury and not at Westminster? I liked and also hated him after writing 12 volumes about the Hundred Year War and discovering good and bad sides of so many people.

[@ds1868]

Canterbury was more convenient for the burial, as Edward died in France. Also, it was not automatic that members of the Royal family were buried at Westminster. For example Edward II was buried in Gloucester, John of Gaunt was buried in St Paul's Cathedral, Henry IV is buried in Canterbury Cathedral, Edward IV was buried in St George's Chapel Windsor Castle.

[@sergiofrigo4054]

killed by bertrand du gesclin duke of medina

[@klaus3794]

@@ds1868 I think he died in London in the arms of his father, King Edward III.

[@klaus3794]

@@sergiofrigo4054 Funny, there was really a Bertrand du Guesclin, but he was a French constable a very high position and he died during a siege on a heat stroke/ exhaustion.

[@panzerlieb]

Klaus S under the harsh light of hindsight most people don’t come across very well. One reason is that modern society’s values and perceptions don’t sync well with earlier periods. For example we have machines perform a great number of tasks that, in the Black Princes’ era, would have be done by a person. To quote Zoe Oldenbourg “in the Middle Ages, man was the measure of all things”. This fact alone illustrates the perception gap between then and now.

[@fighto-br]

Well,I live just next to canterbury soooo

[@ME-wy3xm]

Stuffz ! Well, good for you. Would you like a trophy? 🏆 Here, take this one.

[@dld6959]

2:12 On the statue it looks like he is wearing a brigandine for his body protection, do you think this is the case or is he wearing a coat of arms over a plate cuirass.

[@cuhurun]

Dan... it's certainly full plate. As for the heraldry, it would have been either velvet attached directly to the individual plates or a very well tailored jupon. With this effigy my personal view is it's a representation of the latter.

[@joelp.719]

yes the tomb of Edouard Plantagenest !

[@generallewisdingleberry5601]

Canterburried

[@kittymervine6115]

so around 1:00, it's good to wear your glasses to see it's not a naughty group doing this....

[@klaus3794]

Is there no more information about the result of you study and was the tomb ever opened? Please understand my hunger for information.

[@CanterburyCathedralOfficial]

Hi Klaus, The tomb was not opened however the results of the scan were discussed at our Black Prince Conference in 2017. There were plans to release the papers from the convention in book form but I believe there have been some delays with this. I will keep you posted if it does go to publication.

[@emilypegues4610]

We're still doing research! It takes a lot of time - to write funding applications, to travel to the sites, to find and read the books or archival records we need, to write (that takes the most time!) - and even more so since our team is based in different countries and we aren't able to meet as often as we'd like. But the project is active and when we do publish, we will be sure to leave a comment here with the details. Thanks very much for your kind interest (and patience)!

[@klaus3794]

@@CanterburyCathedralOfficial Could you get any images from the inside of the sarcophagus? It would be very interesting just to know that all is still inside what he was buried with. Keep on going - there is muck more to find out.

[@klaus3794]

@@emilypegues4610 Hi Emily, you look very much interested in all that in this video. Could you not take the cage down to get closer? Do you know by any chance why Edward wanted to be buried here?

[@TheCandiceWang]

Who and when were those bars (Cage put up around these tombs?

[@hirepgym6913]

He would have made the best king we ever had the only time in History was Parliament called the Good Parliament was when Edward of Woodstock made it so .

[@angelhuff1026]

I am in the USA so I have to piece these things together as I have not been to England but this man "the Black Prince" seems to have been mostly virtuous even though he did some big sins. There is less information on him as a far as I can tell than some others less interesting like Charles Stuart II. I get sick of reading he was so shrewd. How does cheating on a wife make one shrewd?

[@klaus3794]

Angel, no. These are sins we do still today. If you want more background info look for my book series: CHRONICLES OF THE HUNDRED YEARS WAR - Klaus Schwanitz.

[@angelhuff1026]

I will see if I can learn more of this prince that way (I was glad to see the books recommended.)

[@chrisball3778]

He probably didn't commit all the crimes his enemies accused him of, but he was still quite clearly a very brutal warlord. On campaign in France, he was notorious for using a tactic called 'Chevauchee', which meant burning and pillaging the countryside to destroy the enemy's economy and deny them food and shelter. This meant deliberately targeting the homes and livelihoods of civilians. Anyone who resisted would have been killed, and even many of those who didn't would have died of starvation, disease or exposure.

[@england6013]

Centuries ago. People still cheat and always will.

[@AlphaOne2009]

When do we get to see the black prince? Oh please!

[@england6013]

You won't. They are looking at the epitaph not his bones, which lie beneath and could be dust

[@AlphaOne2009]

@@england6013 … you took me literally. It was a rhetorical question. That’s sad, I would love to see his remains:)

[@yan2503]

They will find Dracula`s coffin soon.

[@Minime163]

I hope they don't open that one

[@normality7397]

I wonder why this vid would make people dislike... I know there are only five but why?

[@billieluis]

Normality 5 French

[@fredgrove4220]

Because it was a total waste of public money. This "investigation" was paid for out of tax payers hard earned money, just so some prissy academics could justify their existance.

[@klaus3794]

@@fredgrove4220 Wow, that is bad. Not interested in history?

[@oldedwardian1778]

fred grove At least those PRISSY academics could SPELL. The word is existEnce NOT existAnce. But to answer your LUDICROUS statement, there are many, many people who find this examination of history, INTERESTING AND SATISFYING and consider this money well spent, I am sure that the cost of this is a pittance and well worth while. So now you have vented your spleen you can go back to watching Coronation Street.

[@emilypegues4610]

Actually, we researchers paid for a good bit of it ourselves - plane tickets, trains, hotels, time off from work, etc. - because we love the subject and enjoy research. The Cathedral generously encouraged the study, too, in many kind ways. Tax payers did not fund our research.

[@HelloSmileMore]

Why is this so extremely short?

[@emilypegues4610]

It was made to promote the research undertaken for the Black Prince conference held in Canterbury later that year, so only intended as a trailer advertising that event, rather than a standalone 'film.' It's kind of taken on a separate afterlife since 2017...!

[@HelloSmileMore]

@@emilypegues4610 ok thanks for the explanation 👍😃

[@JRK2669]

The comments on this are absolutely insane for a little clip about investigating the Black Prince's tomb, calm down everyone please

[@larryrobinson6914]

Just don't wake him up

[@jaads7910]

What a beautiful young lady,

[@thedarkforce9596]

Well you can’t have her

[@JoseighBlogs]

They were all blood thirsty and tyrannical 'God is on my side' hypocrites were those ancient kings and princes ~ although, by contrast quietly and clean of blood and gore off the battle field adhered to dainty, poetical mannered protocols as knights toward their demure ladies. Indeed, pray for his soul as he asks but even more so pray for the souls of all those innocents he reputedly slaughtered so horribly.

[@janineharrison5186]

This was 2017...what did you find?

[@CanterburyCathedralOfficial]

Hi Janine, It was indeed 2017 and the findings were later presented in the Black Prince conference in October. We will be releasing the papers from the conference soon and this will include information about the tomb investigation, conservation work carried out on the Achievements and also the results of some scientific research on the Black Prince's helm. In the build up to the release of the papers we will also release a short 10 minute film from the conference which will give a taste of what was covered. Make sure you subscribe to our channel or follow us on Facebook to keep up to date with the latest news.

[@klaus3794]

@@CanterburyCathedralOfficial Thanks.

[@radiggie]

Blimey, was concentrating until 1.03 when those ‘knees’ took me by surprise

[@trojanette8345]

I know my suggestion would be slightly invasive and not very practical at all. However, wouldn't it have been just as easy for you to solder off some of the bars to make it easier for you to get at the coffin / effigy, more easily? The researchers look ridiculous peering and probing through the bars when they could just as easily take some of them off and re-attach them later after their research is finished. It would seem to me that the more fascinating thing would have been to be able to get close enough (to at minimum) be able to X-ray the inside of the coffin to get a 'picture' of his body. The way the effigy looks and how exacting to detail it is makes one wonder if in fact the gilding wasn't put directly around the body at the time of death and the inside of the coffin serving, instead as a vessel for personal effects. Yest, I know my theory goes against all conventional thinking. However, it's worth a thought or two if for nothing more than thinking-outside-of-the-box conjecture.

[@rickmaggie1]

Why can't they open up the Black Prince's tomb and look around?

[@3John-Bishop]

Or use some kind of x-rays to see whats inside.

[@rickmaggie1]

@@arrenoflaedenuar6886 Maybe you are right, sorry. I do love to read about British royalty, fascinating history, but I would never want to be one of them, it seems their lives are way too regimented for me. Anyway, thanks for correcting me, have a wonderful day, from a cold and snowy West Texas.

[@arrenoflaedenuar6886]

@@rickmaggie1 Thanks for the kind reply, have a good day from cold and icy northern Virginia mountains.

[@Got_Munchies]

Which "black price "?

[@klaus3794]

No one really knows for sure. There are two plausible explanation. 1. He liked black armor, 2. his soul turned black after he ordered the massacre of up to 3,000 inhabitants of Limoges, where the bishop (!) turned to the French. - The name was even first mentioned around 200 years after his death!

[@jackmatthews2961]

@@klaus3794 limonges was just french propaganda I don't personally believe that the prince had any ill intent and the who story was kind of exaggerated.

[@klaus3794]

@@jackmatthews2961 Yes, it was propaganda, nevertheless a minimum of 300 people were killed because the Bishop changed sides and Edward was very upset about it. There was even a duel between 3 English and French knights that ended peacefully and Edward was content with it to save 80 fighters behind them. Edward could not even walk anymore at that time and used a litter to get inside Limoges. He did not take part of any fighting because he was sick since his tour to Castile.

[@nataliee5501]

Plantagenent.

[@O-sa-car]

Are the hard hats and high vis necessary? lol

[@davidevans3227]

remove the bars and get closer?

[@emilypegues4610]

The iron railings are medieval so it wasn't possible to dismantle them. You're right, it would have certainly allowed closer access for study!

[@Ukaronong]

Why everyone whispering?

[@markherron1407]

Edward the BLACK 🖤 Prince IS BLACK 🖤 Blessings and Hugs 💖💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕!

[@TheCandiceWang]

No more beautiful effigy than that of Aragon II.

[@shandao-balinjinan6261]

👍🏽

[@saintseiya2887]

Just send LARA CROFT and get it done

[@USA50_]

❤️🇺🇲🇬🇧

[@alanvt1]

Err....and the result was?

[@CanterburyCathedralOfficial]

... revealed and discussed at the Black Prince Conference later that year. The film was a teaser for the event. The results and a paper about the findings are scheduled to be published in the near future.

[@klaus3794]

@@CanterburyCathedralOfficial What is the near future for you, please. I am getting older and run out of time.

[@this.handle.is.alreadytaken]

@@CanterburyCathedralOfficial Have we got the results? If so, where can I look please? Thank you for your research.

[@gervais.d8399]

More please...wtf

[@rgwholt]

Just wondering why they are wearing hard hats and hi-viz jackets ??

[@emilypegues4610]

Hard hats because there were heavy loose boards overhead on the scaffolding. Hi-viz because the cathedral was fairly dark, and so we could keep track of people moving around since we were using XRF, which emits a beam of radiation - very low so not especially dangerous, but still something to avoid exposing people to unnecessarily.

[@Lucius1958]

*"Let me tell you about my life..."* ... except for the part where he pooped himself to death. 💩💀

[@mike89128]

Medical historians are pretty certain the Black Prince had cancer. Perhaps colon cancer. A horrible way to die.

[@pepitochiste9349]

EL VIDEO NO ES MAS DE LO COMUN LO MALO ES LA TRADUCCION QUE LO VUELVE MONOTONO Y CON UN SENTIDO DE QUE ES ESTO NI UNA NI OTRA LO LAMENTO TIENEN BUENAS IMAGENES PERO FALTA MUCHO PARA AUN BUEN LYKE

[@tektin]

Unlucky prince

[@Nog311]

Why are they wearing HiVis and Hard hats

[@sadeivillegas7627]

Health and Safety reason.

[@Nog311]

@@sadeivillegas7627 Yep someone with not experience or qualification said "anyone can write a risk assessment."

[@emilypegues4610]

We were wearing hard hats while moving around beneath the scaffolding, which had loose equipment and moveable boards overhead. High-viz to avoid any confusion about where people were when we had to reposition equipment, etc.

[@SurvivingAnotherDay]

So did any of you guys pray for him when you were there haha

[@suzannewassink3914]

No. Once u are dead its to late to repant

[@klaus3794]

You should do that, he risked his life during his enterprises to France, Hainault or Spain.

[@TheCandiceWang]

Why laugh?

[@patrickhows1482]

No doubt he will have left money in his will for masses to be said after his death.

[@maximusmaxwell4392]

was this the tomb that was damaged by bombs in ww2

[@klaus3794]

No, it was not. Visit Canterbury and see the ORIGINAL items of Edward, like a shield, gloves etc.

[@michaelfreeland2791]

Black prince? Right.......you find it in the sewer of the Bronx

[@nataliee5501]

Plantagenent. 👹

[@danehart2783]

i wish the good people redo the gold , 20 % of the planet speaks english . these are the great people of world history . care for them best you can .i would look much nicer

[@klaus3794]

What they did was VERY dangerous and I believe some people died later after the job was done!

[@allenmcgee6061]

Geeks and their toys

[@alanthomas2064]

Open the tomb FFS! he won't mind! 1346 could he understand English?

[@Foxglove963]

Alan Thomas. Would you mind if they opened the grave of your mother? And why would you object?

[@wendyhaase4401]

I don't understand that Young Wonder doing this stuff and they come across these coffins or effigies people want to open them why or saw off bars why or destroy thousand-year-old churches you don't destroy history for other history you try and Preserve as much as original history as you can I'm fascinated buy all the history that has come from around the world some good some bad no matter which way it goes you need to try and preserve it to the original state and as far as Europe goes I don't understand why they can't get better funding from from the country I mean this is their history it should be preserved as best as possible without destroying it

[@Foxglove963]

@@wendyhaase4401 Archeology is a destructive technique. The Black Prince's tomb is a royal tomb and won't be opened by lesser mortals.

[@wendyhaase4401]

@@Foxglove963 how did you figure that I was saying his tomb should be opened I thought I made it clear my opinion it shouldn't be opened I know archaeology does not necessarily destroy history needs to be preserved and it also needs to be taught better within the school systems and the countries

[@Foxglove963]

@@wendyhaase4401 Thousands of dolmens, stone circles, cairns, stone rows, have been destroyed by the church and its slaves, the modern farmers, and archeology destroys thousands of round barrows. The ancient sacred monuments are (should be) the cultural heritage of all of us, these do not belong to tomb robbers.

[@stephenbachman132]

Why would i pray for a rich guy. He didn't say his deeds.

[@jackmatthews2961]

He was actually in debt most of his life from giving too much away as was common of his chivalrous lifestyle and was the primary reason for his losses near the end of his life and probably sped up his early death. He was very religious attributing all his victories to God.

[@piercer2]

England died in 1066. The rest is just crap

[@malcolmcanning548]

His story it's BS awakening human

[@nojnoj3069]

Also, the so called royalty. Every single one is rotten to the core. This has been proven EVERYTIME one of them steps forward.

[@jackmatthews2961]

Do you think the black prince was a bad person

[@BARON.SAMEDI.]

...I don't care about the black prince ....I am here only because of Jessica 😍

[@stevelong5690]

She came out with a stupid comment about if the Missing jewels are different from the others . If they are missing how can you tell if they are different lol

[@CanterburyCathedralOfficial]

You misunderstand what Emily is saying. She is referring to the scan settings and asking whether or not the results will be different for each of the missing jewels, which may suggest they were removed at different times or may help to clarify if they were all removed at the same time.

[@emilypegues4610]

The gems are missing but the empty *settings* which once held them are still in the crown, so we were able to analyze those settings with XRF. Since the metal used to make the settings for the gems was indeed different from everything else, we discovered that the crown was made in lots of tiny pieces (rather than cast in one piece as it seems on first glance). Our guess is that the missing gems would have been made of enamel, which would have matched other enamel elements in the effigy (sabaton buckles, belt, etc,) and which would have looked very convincingly jewel-like. This would have required much more labor and expense, so understanding that tiny detail helped with figuring out our larger research question about how the tomb was made.

[@CanterburyCathedralOfficial]

Thanks for clarifying Emily. It's great to see there's still a lot of interest about your research.

[@CanterburyCathedralOfficial]

Hi Steve, see Emily's comment as it helps to clarify and place in context the aspect you mention.

[@klaus3794]

@@emilypegues4610 Thanks Emily, can I have your knowledge, please.

[@dixietenbroeck8717]

No answers here, just a waste of my time. 👎

[@rufusdean-el8336]

The Black Prince. Likely another "colored" royal man that the white Europeans know of and admire. Not likely, WAS a melinated man. Old relatives from King Edward the Great. This man was a European, and original European. The white European PRECEDED black Europeans and Edward here !!!

[@declanrenault6720]

K Bey he was white my dude... my family is related to the Plantagenet family and our genealogy is all French, Irish, English, and Celtic.

[@sharonmacdonaldwilliams1070]

HOW INSULTING TO THESE PEOPLE TO HAVE SUBTITLES. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU? IF YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND THESE FOLKS THEN SOMETHING HAS GONE SERIOUSLY AMISS WITH YOUR BRAIN FUNCTION!

[@emilypegues4610]

We wanted everyone - including the deaf and hearing-impaired - to be able to understand the video. Subtitles also make it possible to enjoy the video without having the sound up, i.e. if watching in a library, etc.

[@bossomboss5828]

Rubbish

[@user-dc6kz4xe2t]

Зачем я это смотрел?

[@emilypegues4610]

Canterbury, do you think we might switch off comments for this video at this stage? Or ask KZbin to delete the creepy and incredibly inappropriate personal remark above? I'm not sure that these the comments are contributing to public dialogue about research into the cathedral's history.

[@CanterburyCathedralOfficial]

Hi Emily, we had already put a request into KZbin to have this comment removed but it appears they have reposted. Thank you for bringing it to our attention.

[@stephrc6647]

Because of course only people like you should be allowed to speak there mind.

[@klaus3794]

@@CanterburyCathedralOfficial Don't take this child too serious. When he comes out of Kindergarten he will understand that history is the only to learn from!

[@CanterburyCathedralOfficial]

@@stephrc6647 We are more than happy for people to share their views and opinions and to debate but sadly people sometimes post offensive and inappropriate personal comments about people in the videos that are not related to the article in question and are explicit in content. We choose to remove these as our channel is not restricted and we would prefer not to expose other followers to what is, in effect, disrespectful trolling.