The Fall of Athens (Massive Battles)

The barbarians have arrived... may the gods have mercy on us! 14,000 troops take part in this massive siege engagement. Indypride and myself have to fight a desperate defense of retreat and regrouping all the way back to the acropolis itself

[@thegreatnorth9080]

These massive battles are probably so e of my favourite videos on youtube

[@InvictaHistory]

They are sooo fun to play too : )

[@viktorsvanberg5050]

THFE Productions heres a little storyline for the battle: athens have sent merchantships all over the mediteranien and have got a lot of money by it ..... but have to made enemies. gaul and iberia have combined forces to take athens. athens beg for help by macedon and yeh this happens. nice video thfe proudoctions

[@DA-uc4bb]

Amen I LOVE your videos my first one was the fall of jerusalem I just subscribed too

[@HeirofCarthage]

So if there was no other reason to watch this video (which there certainly is due to the size and scope) the flaming balls o death were quite nice.

[@InvictaHistory]

Ah, Heir my good man glad you could drop by. Was actually wondering recently if you would be up for partaking in one of these massive themed sieges/battles with us in the future. The viewers tend to like it when there are collaborations and especially if they are on massive battles

[@HeirofCarthage]

THFE Productions if you do it on a Saturday there is a decent chance I can join in.

[@InvictaHistory]

HeirofCarthage Alright sounds like a game plan, I'm in California so the time difference shouldnt be too bad. I'll send you a message or fried request on steam then

[@InvictaHistory]

HeirofCarthage feel free to add me on steam so we can connect, I should be appearing online as [THFE] Oakley HiDef

[@Laxbro1092]

THFE Productions HeirofCarthage Viewer here, can confirm, we do love collaborations. I hope this becomes a thing...

[@kingtyris4992]

Instead of trying to push stupid factions on us as paid dlc, I would gladly have given CA my money for carefully designed maps for cities like Athens, Carthage and Rome.

[@tjr1273]

Really awesome video, probably your best yet! I really enjoy the collaborations you do with Indypride; you two are amongst my favourite total war youtubers. A defence of Rome as the Romans? Maybe a siege battle with no offensive artillery, so a fight for the walls is viable.

[@hashaborgonja]

So about the Acroolis and the Parthenon. The acropolis is the big castle like building in the center. The acropolis was built as city defences. The parthenon is the Temple of Athena on top of the Acropolis. It's called Parthenon becasue Parthena means virgin, and the god Athena was believed to be a proud virgin...

[@tymorgan92]

you are seeeew smart

[@hashaborgonja]

Ty Morgan The hill is agiopago, or mars hill. The acropolis is the fortess on top...

[@HistoricTecnoFAN]

hashaborgonja bravo. Not.

[@hashaborgonja]

Frederik Van Praet Nice b8 m8 I r8 8/8

[@kapitan19969838]

The more you know

[@jakehylton3622]

Finally found a page/person who posts the type of battles im looking for! been debating on getting Rome 2 sometime after christmas so the videos are like my personal reviews!

[@frostyguy1989]

Forgive me for assuming the mantle of Captain Buzzkill for a second, but wasn't Ancient Athens supposed to be further inland? Shouldn't it have had the Long Walls connecting it to the port town of Piraeus, which was seated on the coast?

[@urbanpope]

First time in my life that balls made me smile. I love the rolling fire balls!

[@3ekolothreuths98]

your best video...i ve seen over 100 of your battles and i just love this one

[@vrrdragon]

+Μινως Ηλιαδης mine is siege of carthage.

[@brunokopte1347]

This is actually very inspiring for writing big battles, or even for modeling them. And when one takes into account it's a simplified urban layout, that in real life multiple troop types could be together instead of same-type battalions...Awesome.

[@RandomEarthCinema]

Fantastic video man. Commentary was great as well as the battle itself!

[@xsickxxskillzZz]

That battle was awesome my favourite 3 parts were the hippeus lancer charge that killed the slingers, the archers on the hill and the balls wrecking the noble fighters Awesome siege Oakley!

[@a05odst62]

this definitly looked a lot more cinematic and I did like the way it played out great video guys

[@V3r1taz]

Really like the battle but your left flank collapsed not only because of too few men but because his line was positioned far too forward. He should have pulled them back into the street where they couldn't get flanked so this front would've held out way longer

[@jimcastor8601]

That's one Hell of a battle. tks for making video of it and comments of course.

[@fishkerdydoo]

Amazing battle guys! Really enjoyed watching it! Please keep it up :-). As for suggestions how about some massive battles with river crossings and bridges? I would be very interested in seeing that.

[@ProffesorGreen0192]

You're the kind of minds we need in the military.

[@Max-hc7mx]

I know these vids are a bit dated and if you read the comments still, but I really appreciate the Rome 2 content and your strategies that I try to recreate. I'm really enjoying your current content aswell, sending likes as much as I can

[@marSeebs]

Parthenon is in the Acropolis and the Acropolis is in the very center of Athens. I got to visit once, so its pretty cool there. Seeing it from every point in the city.

[@Draggis92]

Great battle! I recommend doing an assault on the city of Syracuse by Rome! ;)

[@TheTrueKingJoffrey]

this battle was awesome. my heart was racing

[@Putridfilth02]

Do you approve my king?

[@JRandallS]

I've wondered why scorpions aren't deployed on the tops of the outer walls, hidden in towers, till the tops are full of troops and then just "mow the lawn" from each side? Also if they are cheap I think I'd have some on the top of every flat high building with some defensive units around those positions? Also what about additional generals cavalry's? How many generals can you have?

[@Tha1gamer]

To answer the unknown about the Parthenon and the Acropolis. Yes the Parthenon is on the Acropolis and the Acropolis is in the center of Athens. Btw awesome video my friend!

[@CrazyFlamesZero]

I would love to see another siege of Rome, it was my favorite of all your videos. Please do it again.

[@stephencraig3176]

I really like these massive siege battles, I would like if you did more combined naval and ground battles, which is look at one at a time, I would like it if you paused and broke down the battles bit by bit more often. you have a awesome channel

[@dscan01]

Awesome work, lads! Would love to see a river defence... or maybe an ambush?

[@Adamrobles76]

Rest in pepperonies picked hoplites.

[@brendanreece8625]

Imagine the sheer logistics of organizing the various defensive and offensive maneuvers of the Athenians IRL. That would be intense. Can't believe wars used to be fought like this. It's just brutal.

[@luisofsuburbia]

Wish I could play this great game, but your videos are good enough lol!

[@QualityBackingTracks]

Awesome guys! Thanks for sharing

[@FuzzyPooka]

Absolutely love these!

[@rommel1634]

look at that I watched the whole video, and honestly I hope one day I fight a similar battle because most players suck

[@forgottenbow]

Holy balls that was so epic. THIS is what Rome 2 is all about!

[@vampire_lord1239]

very amazing just subbed, this was a truly spectacular showing guys, id give this 3 thumbs up if I had the extra thumb.

[@HammerofAnvil]

Amazing! Think you could do a Sparta vs Athens Massive Battle? Re-play the Peloponnesian War in all its glory.

[@xaero07vsxaero69]

Whoaaaa another awesome game!! Whoaaaaa (O.o) Love these massive siege battles.

[@zehaha111]

Really enjoyed this battle, especially with the rule set up. If the attacker and defender have the same funds its just to easy in my opinion for the latter. We had a lot of battles in cities with greek / roman architecture. What i would like to see is, to describe a theme for the fight, a battle of Alesia kind of siege. A roman force in a barbarian town, also caesar didn't possess Alesia, but i hope you get what i mean, defending the town against a massive gallic or germanic force. Gallic would be historically more correct of course. That would be something different i think and bring a little bit variety.

[@AdoringFan000]

id like to see some sort of defense with pontus/egypt/seleucyds where you get some chariots into your army and just let em pull through a big road like in the athens map right there, as if they would be like a trap. after all the killing and finally coming through, just a chariot rolling straight through the streets mawing down the unbraced troops would just be hillarious :D (maybe not for the poor person fighting them, but hey). as the attacker barbarian faction i like a lot or maybe even rome. keep up the good work ^^

[@kenlo2410]

the Numbers in Rome II are helping so much now, more than in any other Total War

[@Morfeasnikos]

Great battle !!! Acropolis is in the center of Athens !

[@batesBeckham]

I keep wanting to title my movies massive battles. But i saw your channel and logo... so now i cant lol. Whats another word for massive other then huge that doesnt sound as boring as big? ... tricky tricky, help me out man lol

[@batesBeckham]

bates Beckham i may have to go with enormous battles.

[@DreamTheSpirits]

bates Beckham collosal

[@batesBeckham]

im going to use that! thanks

[@marcusgodioso277]

People still play this game ? I WANT A NOTEBOOK FOR CHRISTMAS JUST TO PLAY THIS GAME .I LOVE THIS TYPE OF GAMES .CONTROLLING YOUR ARMY ETC

[@blinkyrem]

That Hippeus charge was just beautiful

[@InvictaHistory]

One of my favorite parts of the battle

[@edwardrh8800]

Oakley man, the battle was cinematic and awesome, but try to reduce the black bars, yes they do help for a nice cinematic look, but if they take too much space it kinda saddens me :c idk if it saddens other people, but me personally I think that they take TOO much space, basically just try to reduce the space they take :D

[@othonh1]

+THFE Productions The Parthenon was located in the Acropolis and the Acropolis was inside the walls. Imagine it as the keep of the city.

[@RemusKingOfRome]

Real pity City Citadel cannot be manned, especially Rome where the Capitoline hill was the only bastion for defenders when the Gauls sacked the city. Another major problem is the position of the Victory point Flags, sometimes undefendable. Apart from those issues, great battle. You should have tried to hide behind corners more. Love to see large Rome defense.

[@icosahedron6759]

Try a massive 3v3 siege of Halicarnassus (Macedon vs Persia.) It'd be funny if you could get PoM in on it, too.

[@orhblin]

Wait, isn't foot companions a pike unit? if he's using it as a melee unit, it's gonna die :V

[@carolusrex4469]

orhblin He was, unfortunately elite pikes are rarely cost effective and he was facing precursor javelins from Oathsworn along with scorpion and slinger fire.

[@TheMoonlitFaerie]

Related to other sieges, something like the battle of Alesia might be cool? The Gauls aren't exactly a defensive faction, so it'd be a challenge to try and hold off the sturdy romans in a defensive fight.

[@hippyjoe]

I made, on Rome I, the 300 hundred Spartans battle variation for myself, and it was all Pikes. Let me tell you, phalanxe kills EVERYTHING. Especially Macedonians, they've some huge spears.Spartan units have alot of health which allows them to close in so quickly without much loss, and wreak havoc, because Macedonians have less HP than them, and work better at distance. However, the actual battle against the Persians,was so close because the Phalanx always failed due to Elephants. Persians won.

[@AppleGamingLukas]

There were no elephants. They had around 7k militia men. Not 10k. The spartans had more then 300 around 700 carthaganian hoplites and 500 spartans.

[@FilipMoncrief]

Walk For Pantera there were no carthaginians... where did you find these bollocks?

[@kevlarburrito6693]

Those reserves are tactical reserves. Strategic reserves would be if you had another army stationed in another city. Tactical refers to small scale operations in the immediate area. Strategic is long term, usually over a wide area, continents, countries, etc.

[@kevin-sw6bx]

wtf that one cav unit got 400 kills that was an epic charge!

[@DarkVadekGaming]

So, I'd suggest either a defense of Rome or Carthage (but they have already been seen), or maybe Babylon or Alexandria or Londinium

[@jordanfritz5680]

I love this stuff can you try both you and your enemies and friends only using the strongest units in the most difficult Terrain with the most amount of units possible

[@edwardpark-poulson3297]

try Marib in Arabia-Felix, its got a really cool looking upper keep with its own walls with a little palace which you can put archers on, it would make a really epic looking battle. On a second note are you able to use GEM and ancient colors mod in your battles?, they would make the game look even better.

[@neilparker6057]

I'd say the manly lancer charge was more like the charge from helms deep in the second lord of the rings

[@SuperMMAmonster]

Going to sound weird but i actually prefer to watch your videos as opposed to actually playing the game haha your videos are excellent! Thank you!

[@InvictaHistory]

Im kind of the same way with many games

[@luciddreamer53]

In the late 4th century BC, Rhodes, allied with Ptolemy I of Egypt, prevented a massive invasion staged by their common enemy, Antigonus I Monophthalmus. In 304 BC a relief force of ships sent by Ptolemy arrived, and Antigonus's army abandoned the siege, leaving most of their siege equipment. To celebrate their victory, the Rhodians sold the equipment left behind for 300 talents[4] and decided to use the money to build a colossal statue of their patron god. got this off of wikipeidia You should have a siege of Rhodes if they have it as a siege map. And have Macedon be attackers and Egypt with a random city state defend. :P

[@Vajhdeken]

those 27:16 Noble Fighters with 312 kills. Thats just insane

[@EpsilVep]

I would love to see a match of any siege but you use war dogs in steed of infantry (besides pikemen of course)

[@EvilMonkey403]

awesome battle, you guys would've most likely won that if you had spent that extra money on unit upgrade chevrons

[@jakobschoning7355]

Very cool battle! But oakley. the ancient equivalent of a machine gun is the polybos not the cheiroballista/scorpion

[@SuperMrVex]

Because it's polybolos not polybos ;)

[@jakobschoning7355]

Super Fiery Mega Rainbow Unicorn of Fantastic Awesomeness Ok... i guess the polybolos is the ancient equivalent of a machine gun then... i am sorry :D Ahhh, and thanks for clarifing, since I didnt understand that other guys comment

[@torcamario14]

the siege of Bactria!!! Awesome city!!!!

[@TheNathanacer]

That was awesome!!!

[@SwagDawg90]

Awesome battle!

[@jilldannemiller4901]

Awesome battle but I think u should do Egypt vs rome

[@CrayonsYummyYummy]

man that was a fucking sick battle good job!

[@poofy2012]

A causeway is an elevated road over wet/marshy ground, just thought I should let you know.

[@InvictaHistory]

thanks, I figured it was synonymous to a main road. Turns out its an elevated road over low or wet ground

[@wachtwoorden2]

The Parthenon was in the city in the Acroplis. The polis was in greek cities was basicly a fortified hill inside the city wich was very hard to take

[@slydessertfox6267]

Which makes it really disappointing you can't defend the acropolis.

[@wachtwoorden2]

SlyDessertFox very sad indeed :/

[@MickyZIU]

Do it again ! It was cool! And try to use ookley's suggestion to hold one point!

[@ACH1EVE_CH1M]

Oakley's friend sounds too much like Markiplier's best friend, Wade.

[@PrinceofThessaly]

Why not the phyrric siege of Argos where Phyrus of Epirus was killed? It'll be an interesting battle with Macedonians and greeks ( spartans) vs Epirus.

[@WaveDaBreaker]

Great vid, but I feel that it would have been a closer battle if you would have had just 2000 Denares less than your opponents.

[@TheMoonlitFaerie]

Regarding your thoughts on having a last deployable in the parthenon that blew up the map - you're not the first to have the idea of putting explosives in the parthenon. Right, Ottoman Turkey? :D

[@TheRedemptionRain]

I would love to see a large naval invasion siege with a smaller ground force.

[@bilalmalik5900]

great vid

[@masteretainturmakan]

Is Jerusalem a custom map? If so, I'd like to see a Massive Battle between Judaea (I think it's a faction in Imperator Augustus) and Rome.

[@JAG-pt8kh]

A siege battle with both sides playing as only nomad factions(ex: Royal Sythia)

[@r3ddim832]

why u dont do like a siege battle of.. massalia ? yup that would be interesting ;)

[@LucasDimoveo]

Maybe the Swebi trying to hold back a Roman Legion?

[@greco-romanfanboi7054]

a great battle

[@romanlegatus8365]

You did an amazing battle. Why don't you do a siege of Alexandria

[@InvictaHistory]

I've done a siege on that map twice already

[@dinka3668]

I think he might be thinking of the city

[@romanlegatus8365]

Have you done Macedon

[@lordquackers5764]

Instead of a nuke, what about Wildfire/Greekfire caches hidden in the city to use as a last resort

[@tylerleech8996]

Too bad you can't deploy on the Parthenon, that would be epic. With archers and maybe triarii is square or testudo

[@tarikberovic9429]

Congrats

[@epicmulli]

I once had a foot companion which killed 650 enemies

[@huss666]

14,000 and no lag. please give details about the specs you are using :(

[@gavinmondor9691]

Try Byzantium when it was first sieged by the Romans in 196 AD.

[@benrichardson5662]

Sounds like your foes played this battle quite well.

[@Lolbanaan123456789]

Siege of Halicarnassus, not sure if theres a map for that though...

[@Roman0Empire]

Hmmm, what about you can only have 1 melee unit and the rest had to be ranged?

[@piesho9811]

I would enjoy more port sieges personaly

[@malachiphelps6710]

Why are they more concerned about getting a close game than winning?

[@WarPigstheHun]

I POOPED MY PANTS!

[@Traindriver321]

Totally awesome battle! But M2TW is the best 4eva.

[@xKillerPro1997]

Acropolis was in Athens and Parthenon was on Acropolis...Acropolis technicaly a big hill...

[@jasperv]

Is it possible for you guys to replay the siege of Tyre?

[@Reilly-Maresca]

2 Sparta players v 2 Athenians or an Athenian and a Macedonian in a siege of Sparta called "These Are Sparta's Walls"

[@RPGFanbase]

Can we have those barricades and balls of fire in the campaign also or is it just multiplayer?

[@indypride50]

If you pick the Stalwart Defenders trait for an army after it levels up in campaign, you get access to deployables like flaming balls in the pre-battle deployment zone.

[@benrocks832000]

Battle at Marathon reenactment

[@WessNix]

warum haben die alle andere Flaggen-Farben? ^^ Wie soll man sich da merken, wer für wen kämpft?