INVISIBLE WOMAN IS HARD | Marvel Rivals Season 1

[@mL7support]

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[@Foxtrottin.]

I had someone yesterday say “Oh wow this invisible woman is actually good” to me and I don’t even know the boundaries of how happy that made me.

[@RetroCube]

Had a similar case where someone went “First invisible woman in comp that isn’t busy staring at her ass the entire time”. I’ll take the compliment lmao

[@heelmeplz]

She's not the only one 🫣

[@Henbot]

Need to get yourself a girlfriend who then can cosplay as here

[@tzukishiro]

bro

[@chunk1179]

ew

[@yoosadiq]

😭😭😭😭😭

[@GhostXLVIII]

@@heelmeplz made her too damn thicc onna Thursday afternoon

[@zankaa8031]

I think she's easy to start, you can get a lot of value by just throwing her abilities. The cooldowns for everything are pretty low. But I do think she has a high skill ceiling.

[@Chunta24]

The cooldowns aren't low st all and you have to deal with sheild management like a tank but it's only 350 it gets destroyed its 12 that's really long especially paired with the fact her matter reach is 30m. That not far at all as the sheild gets those quick hard to reach heal.

[@Watermelon_Man]

@@Chunta24yes they are

[@herbpack8612]

she’s definitely not a hard character she’s really easy to use unlike somebody like loki

[@bleachigo990]

@@herbpack8612 definitely easier than Loki.

[@loogiemusmaximusoftides8540]

I feel like too many people just leave the barrier up, like use it like a Sigma shield: block the damage then call it back to restore its health. She's essentially Brig+ Sigma

[@Balloonbot]

Brigma

[@Loquacious101]

You knew what you were doing with that title 😂

[@Mr-lh9kh]

??? its not him its you

[@mightycactus7223]

​@@Mr-lh9kh don't pretend like streamers never bait people with titles like that, we're all adults here lmao

[@Mr-lh9kh]

@@mightycactus7223 they do but this is not one of those times

[@y0gur780]

What I noticed from playing her is to just imagine the shield as mantis's heal/right click but needs to be spammed.

[@fightorflight2279]

I don't like that I can't put the shield on myself

[@bobbobby475]

She would be extra broken

[@kharigrant1877]

You can’t put it on yourself, but you can walk up to it after it’s been placed on a (nearby) teammate and it’ll heal you

[@wojciechszatko]

@@kharigrant1877 Yes, but it's very clunky. Having more control over its placement would be a nice change.

[@dimasangga385]

I hope she can maneuver around her shield like sigma does 👀

[@RellshouldBsleep]

Me too at first you just have to get into the habit of getting close to your shield, which is easy because my teammates usually disregarded and run right past it so I go right behind them and utilize it for me 😂, plus when you pop invisible you regen health

[@nekryone4366]

Feel like the shield should be used as an AOE heal spot for distant characters, not for the shield

[@Oddjawsh]

I feel like she’s pretty intuitive. Her burst ability paired with her push pull ability is so deadly and the piercing effect of her shots makes dmg easy even if you just wanna heal. Super fun character

[@Chunta24]

Its that 30m range limit that's the problem for me. She needs a team as honning, random shooting, and auto aim works on her so her invis to people with even the but of sense or is just tigger happy she has not real escape. No team she's just dead. The other hand part is the sheild management as im trying to use it for uts healing over time but the heath is so meh nor do the people I cast it on are aware of how the healing works and domt try to hide beside cover as you can spam cas the sheild but the recall is at a dely and if thay thing is just in the open it will break before the recall giving a longer cool down. Definitely a character that of your team don't understand they'll get you killed.

[@LtWaphlz]

What the heck was happening to the enemy invisible woman ult at 13:45? I know the Hydra maps move, but I didn’t think it would do that

[@areyousureyouenteredyourna6367]

@@LtWaphlz Yeah the same thing happened to me when I played her I was so confused 😭 I guess if you ult and the ground on the map moves the ult also moves

[@oog420]

she died...

[@baby_ghostboi8280]

happens to cloak and dagger ult too

[@Sanley2]

yes she’s hard but fun to play ❤

[@dogs-game-too]

Who I main in OW: whoever, doesn't matter Who I main in Rivals: 🎂🎂🎂

[@samcresp5440]

She’s so so fun. She feels like everything I wanted from C&D but more. You really need another competent healer to make her work I’ve found, otherwise it’s hard to solo support with her, but she’s so great at making and denying space. She feels easy to get the ropes on, but it’s so clear her ceiling is super high and little things with her are going to go a long way in the scheme of a match.

[@walter4180]

Why did he ult at 1:31? Not flaming as I'm trying to learn Sue but no one was low and it's not in response to another ult. Did he just ult to secure that skirmish for time and not much else?

[@fakekash2916]

@@walter4180 yes sometimes you also ult to give your team an advantage in team fights.

[@CRAiCED.]

He wanted to invis the ulting Scarlett witch so the enemy wouldn't see her but clearly didn't work

[@ping5258]

Like the other guy said, they wanted to try making scarlett witch invisible whilst she ulted

[@mattevans4377]

You are putting in so much effort to do the same as other Strategists

[@Autipsy]

@mattevans4377 he did >20k damage and healing in that first match, i think the effort paid off

[@mattevans4377]

@Autipsy But he could have easily done the same as Luna/Mantis with just pure ult spam

[@yoongisrose6968]

​@mattevans4377 But he also blocked 20k plus damage she's like a honorary tank for other supports. Now the supports have someone to protect them in the backline

[@lamarpalmer25]

Her damage is to ass really. The utility is there but she’s tickling everybody Damage will always be king amongst all roles. All the best supports will be the ones who can kill things

[@MM-ne2cl]

stats dont say everything. Pulling ennemies in helps to secure kills, her ult helps too stats can’t show how many kills opportunies an Invisible Women gave to her team

[@Ceylon-e8l]

what gpu are you using?

[@NigarIsHere]

ML! I don't like How easy Invisible Woman is to dive. Change it please!

[@mL7support]

yes lemme just get into the game code and see what I can do

[@NigarIsHere]

@@mL7support Thank you! Here have this, streamer man! 🍪

[@MayankGupta-th3wt]

She has the best escape options and peeling abilities in all strategists wdym she's easy to dive?

[@NigarIsHere]

@@MayankGupta-th3wt Too late to argue! ML will be recoding it! No 🍪for you!

[@khele2k]

@@MayankGupta-th3wt Explain. I personally think the 5 second invulnerability, swapping to doppelgangers and tapping invisibility to get our and reposition with Loki is pretty braindead easy. How about double dashing and climbing to wherever you want with Rocket, that's pretty easy. Mantis' sleep is almost impossible to miss... how about Jeff dropping bubbles and swimming away, that's pretty darn easy. How about popping soul bond and sharing your health with five other teammates? If Sue could use her shield for herself maybe, or she can use all her cooldowns to Force boop the enemy and Vortex them to slow them down, but really it's the invisibility that's gonna get her out of there. Even then you better hope the flanker doesn't catch her. If they have any AoE damage you're pretty screwed.

[@stillnotchill2560]

Every support will feel hard when you play mantis or Luna 90% of your games.

[@TeaTimeRumble]

I feel like shes really good but only if your team is actually... you know... competent? Its a similar situation to Rocket imo, Rocket is a great character... if you have a team playing into the fact youre on Rocket Its why Luna and C&D are so good, theyre built for healing idiots, basically. Even with solid kits and worth playing in their own right, if you have brain damage on your team, C&D and Luna will carry it most of the time. Invisible Woman cant. She really needs people actually using their eyes for when you slow people, or pull people in, or playing into your shield especially, the amount of people ill put a shield on and theyll just walk past it, is insane. Its especially good for Iron Man or Storm, who get to just sit in the air and heal up and not move for free, and i see them move out of it, like theyre insulted at the concept of standing behind it or using it as makeshift cover or something Or even just your OTHER Support, recognising that you cannot sustain yourself without disengaging with her Shift.

[@sekhmetttt]

I feel like she isn't hard to get value with, but she's hard to master. Low skill floor, high skill ceiling, which is nice.

[@Dizzifying1]

Surprised no one seems to mention how she has 160 healing per second BEFORE the +15% season bonus. Not to mention she also can toss on a 50 healing per second shield with 300 durability. Those combined leave her with 241 healing per second (highest possible without ultimate). Loki with 2 clones heals for 210 maximum. Luna during her Ice arts heals for 107 a second and 144 to her Share the Stage target. Susan's numbers are very very very very high. Like comically high. I'm not sure why people have been downplaying her.

[@Gerwhal]

@@Dizzifying1 because on paper doesn't always translate into that max value in practice

[@rfewer]

@@Gerwhalher heals are pretty limited by ranged and the shield isn’t really a consistent reliable way to heal most of the time due to people moving a lot. Still she’s really good

[@Dizzifying1]

@@Gerwhal Even if you don't get max value on Susan, you are still better than all of the healers... what are saying?

[@davidtan8247]

@Dizzifying1 That's not true. Her whole kit is inconsistent, which makes her healing unreliable. Her shield is super clunky to use and barely gets its use before breaking, and her range limits her healing by a lot, not to mention leaving her an easy target since she has to be close to ber teammates to even heal. She almost never gets to that max healing potential.

[@НаночкаЛюбимая]

Shield heals 20 per/s not 50 lol

[@CopShowGuy]

I found that her damage sphere is a good counter to Hela ult.

[@xxhjgfffhifethxx1863]

I love playing her so much, she’ll probably end up Beijing my new main. I got my highest healing game on her yesterday with 50,000. I know it’s not quite ml7 standards with his 65,000 but I was really proud of it. Also my duo got 47,000 and our 21 25 dps still managed to complain about in not healing enough when the enemy team had 13,000 and 38,000 like come on

[@JoeBob-e8f]

Playing invisible woman hard, more like playing invisible woman WHILE hard.

[@100yrs7]

Enough talk about me let’s talk about invisible women

[@marsbalaba9373]

''invisible woman is hard'' ''hard while playing invisible woman''

[@joshuastabe2850]

She is SO fun. But man is she difficult to get consistent value with. I’m either doing the most, killing and healing everything or I’m just floundering, no in between. Once people figure her out she is gonna be a menace.

[@loogiemusmaximusoftides8540]

Shield is 50 healing per second and is the best part of her kit, use your shield on your healer buddy for extra healing and the ability to barrier dance, use your shield to block poke/ aggression on squishy teammate peaking an angle, use the shield on a flanker like Psylocke or Starlord to give a bit of healing and protection because they aren't always reliably in range for a heal, almost never use the shield on a frontliner like a tank unless they are taking HUGE burst or if they're in cover to heal or them quick cause it will break instantly, heal off your own shield whenever you can as well, if a teammate is about to take big damage to the face(Ironman/ Magneto ult) or are using their own ult and are fairly immobile(Punisher) they take priority for the shield. Most importantly of all try to focus on the gameplay more than her ass, hope this helps!

[@spence6195]

She's very hard but very fun to play. Definitely a 4 stars Strategist

[@mrnocare5929]

She just plays better on pushing the objective than capturing the point types of map imo.

[@Stephenmichaelwellness]

@@mrnocare5929 Ive had the same experience

[@Krumm-t9k]

Who has faster invisibility health regen, Loki or or Sue? Sues good just a lil rough with the self sustain.

[@Megggazap]

they both heal the same at 20 HP/S Loki has better survivability though because of his Regeneration Field and better mobility through teleportation

[@karakaaa3371]

Yeah I wish she could shield herself or had a grace period where you don't lose invis for a second or something, since that's her only escape.

[@Megggazap]

@@karakaaa3371 I completely agree with you. I think if you use the shield without targeting an ally it should appear in front of her. That way, she could have a bit more sustain and combat time, but it would cost her some of her own resources

[@khele2k]

Loki's Deception has a 15 second cooldown and Sue has a sic second cooldown on veiled step, so Sue can definitely go invisible more often.

[@Spongemonkey26]

I've found her to be fairly easy to use and her skill set is intuitive. The only thing I find myself forgetting to use is that pushback ability more often.

[@cyoung9115]

Bro recall your shield instead of letting it break

[@zs9652]

I was thinking this too. It screwed him a few times when it was on cooldown because it broke. Although there might be merit to leave it out as a distraction for certain plays.

[@Henbot]

Psionic vortex works really well with Dr Strange ultimate and others when people trying to run away, and you don't seem to be using her melee combo much - the third hit is big burst damage up to 2 metres and if you hit it and psionic vortex they die. Feel like her Psionic Vortex should be able to heal her, otherwise you have to go invisible or use the guardian shields you generate when placed to heal you.

[@bigde131]

@@Henbot pretty good uses. I’ve been primarily using it to push flankers off me like almighty push from Naruto

[@beeasygoat4581]

Had 40 kills and 13k* healing 😂

[@syed_azriii]

I just spàm HAHHAHAH

[@konigwolff]

I wish her fancy skin didn't have all those spikes. I don't understand the appeal of spiky costumes.

[@monojuice]

was an 80's thing

[@R1L1.]

vid starts with bucky on his back line and he dosent even look back at it lol, good ways to play healer

[@Wajulillo]

She is sooooo good.

[@HyotumReal]

She provides a lot more value than just healing. I was in a quick match where a storm was complaining about me not healing, when they were getting one tapped or going too far in. I'll admit i only had just under 4k heals. But we had a cloak and dagger just healbotting. And with the rest of my team diving in too deep and getting one tapped there wasnt much i could do. I provided value through shielding and pushing/pulling people away and into ults. We almost won the game because i held point for a solid 14 seconds alone 😭 After i died we lost. And i did more than the other half of our team. 🤷‍♂ Storm and dagger were the only other people doing something.

[@MM-ne2cl]

less than 4k heals is crazy tho

[@bleachigo990]

Heal botting is a buzz phrase and you should be ashamed of yourself for using it.

[@HyotumReal]

@ nah yeah cause I couldn’t do anything 😭

[@HyotumReal]

@@bleachigo990 but that’s what my dagger was doing, not that I’m complaining. Like they only swapped to cloak to use dark force dimension teleport thing

[@miltaire3235]

Early guess but I'm predicting she's gonna fall in S tier for a lot of people, great overall utility across her kit. Shift controls space nicely, push/pull can really throw off enemies, heal is easy to land, shield can save someone really low, invis escape and high jump, and finally her ult cloaking your team while healing them and slowing enemies is amazing. Damage isn't insane but you can heal a teammate and chip enemies at the same time

[@ronnietwok5218]

u da bestest

[@Slice_of_Crime]

Hard for invisible woman

[@saintjontel]

RECALL YOUR SHIELD

[@epicgamersauce3516]

Odd way to spell "makes me"

[@deltavagen9796]

She gets Me Rock Hard

[@jikookietings2507]

First minute in and you waste your ultimate

[@monsho5178]

Especially playing her with just one hand😢

[@piggywiggy4990]

god she is so bad I just imagine myself on top of her

[@Sandovian]

In what world do you guys think this is a winning comment

[@keonkla]

@@Sandovian your free to go to overwatch if seeing pretty girls makes you triggered lol.

[@Sandovian]

@keonkla that you think you're clever is funny. That you're gassing masturbation jokes is hilarious. Don't you have to be 13 or something for a KZbin account? Lol

[@DrakeKC]

So am I

[@Calm1080]

i got to eternity last season and must say this gurl is NOT for high elo, they try to make her anti dive area denial yadi yada but her orb is mediocre and barely slows or does any damage and can easily outhealed, her invis is easily broken with any aoe dmg or she passive regen while invis is also mediocre and you can't stay invis for too long or else team will die, honestly i'd take 150hp bubble but you can put it on yourself rather than wtf kit she's having rn

[@Vozhd651]

First

[@mL7support]

🍪

[@Moogle]

the boop and pull range is actually crazy also shes only hard because you are looking at her gyat the whole time :^)

[@kafkawanter.]

Can you guess what else is hard.......

[@Sandovian]

Your boyfriend?

[@MikeHawk-pn3lp]

I'm hard

[@Demon-Asta]

Yes it's hard to play her with 1 hand only obviously

[@jundahbalafif]

it is hard, cause you play with 1 hand

[@BeeRieEnn]

It’s not that hard

[@Jaeno311]

Seems boring