iPad Pro (2024), the most OVERKILL Retro Handheld EVER

[@STR82DVD]

Retroarch just dropped for iPhone lad. Just awesome.

[@GameTechTalk]

That it did, it's so significant for retro gamers! Have you dabbled with it at all?

[@STR82DVD]

@@GameTechTalk I've never been Apple with the exception of installing a Mac network, on spec, at Bell Canada in 1992 timeframe. Fun times. Honestly, I think it's just good for gamers whether you're Apple or Android. It pushes the entire scene forward in terms of democratising gaming in the face of Nintendo's legal proclivities. Just my opinion lad.

[@GameTechTalk]

@@STR82DVD And one I can totally get behind. Taking this opportunity to wish you a great week-end!

[@STR82DVD]

@@GameTechTalk You too. Take the time with the family and have fun on the long weekend. Enjoy man.

[@sunsetgaming2498]

Nice video! It would be interesting if you covered Mac gaming, too. It is an interesting topic with recent releases from Resident Evil to coming ones like Assasins Creed Shadows!

[@GameTechTalk]

I'll keep it in mind, thanks for your suggestion!

[@crystal_is_cozy]

What an epic set-up lol.

[@GameTechTalk]

Complete overkill but what can I say, I'm extra like that! 😎

[@CleanDesign_]

Just wanted to pass on a little info maybe you could use for future videos. 1:22 says 15Wh. "Wh" means"watt hours". That is how many watts you could pull for a straight hour. This is a number usually used for batteries. Like if say you were charging your phone off of a battery for one hour and the phone was puling 15 watts, the battery would be dead in 1 hour if it was a 15Wh battery. The passthrough power should say "15W", as it can pass 15 watts to the phone continuously. Thanks for the great video.

[@GameTechTalk]

Makes a lot of sense, thanks a great deal, details like that matter in my quest to being the best creator I can be for viewers. Thanks again!

[@jaydev504]

The only thing missing from that Galileo setup is vibration. When Moonlighting only PS4/PS5, Official Joycons and Xbox controllers have vibration support.

[@GameTechTalk]

We might have solution(s) in the coming weeks but wouldn't want to create false expectations. Time will tell!

[@87galagar]

Hello please help me, I have the Gamesir G8 Galileo and I can't connect it in my Aipad Pro M4 from the application. What I can do ?

[@GameTechTalk]

Hold the top left and top right buttons, the circle ones that are used as "select and start". Hold them long enough for the LED color to change. You should have three colors, light blue (white), green and bright blue. Only "light blue" mode works on iOS, the others shouldn't be recognized by your iPad. I hope this helps, cheers!

[@d.s.6221]

Thank you for your video, this sounds very appealing. However, I'm still uncertain as to where to get the actual games from, like the source? If possible, please let me know. Thanks!

[@GameTechTalk]

That would be something that Google might be able to help you with. As I am unable to point in any specific direction, I can at least tell you that you should be searching for "roms". For example "SNES roms" and from there you should find ways/tools/ressources on how to bring your own roms into your emulator. There are many ways to extract them from the physical games you own yourself, or download copies of them online. As for on iOS's side, I have a video on my channel breaking down the initial process of getting your roms to work. Cheers!

[@DrocDoc]

Been watching a lot of your g8 plus videos, might have to cancel my Odin 2 portal if I like gaming on ios

[@GameTechTalk]

The iPad Pro is awesome and if you like gaming on iOS, you're gonna love it. Did you end up getting the controller?

[@DrocDoc]

@ yes I did, I actually got the hulk edition from AliExpress and it feels really premium! Truly solid in the hands. Canceled my order of the Odin 2 portal and strictly gaming on iOS and switch in terms of handhelds

[@llorenstorrespr4409]

iBeen playing alot with it & i'm having a great time. But to put the box-art on the (mame) arcade tittles is a pain in the back & ican't get it done.

[@GameTechTalk]

MAME is on iOS RetroArch now? I'm gonna have to look this up!

[@llorenstorrespr4409]

@@GameTechTalk i'm using the (retroarch) but with the mame core.

[@llorenstorrespr4409]

@@GameTechTalk But the box-art won't pop up. iCan get it done with the nes & snes games, but not the arcade mame. If you can work it out, let me know, thanks.

[@Padygy]

wish there was a game controller that just attaches to each side without a bar across the back. leave the back exposed so you can can add one of those coolers if you want one

[@GameTechTalk]

Those exist but not for tablets to my knowledge, or at least not without some pretty good 3D printing designing skills. Then there's also the question of if iOS supports those controllers at all.... Ahhhh, in a perfect world right?

[@jakestech2739]

How realistic is it to sit on a couch or plane and hold the iPad pro with those controllers? Is it too heavy and unbalanced or does it feel pretty good? Im considering switching from a legion go to an 11" Ipad pro and using moonlight and the new emulators

[@GameTechTalk]

Pretty realistic in my case as long as I have one point of anchor, for example an arm rest, or leaning in and shift the weight on my ribs. I can't quite explain it as it's just something that happens naturally out of comfort but as long as you are not asking me to stand still with my arms fully extended, I can clock hours with that system. I'd also say, for having the Legion Go myself, that the weight proportion of the iPad Pro M4 is a work of art, and I say this as someone with no particular appreciation for Apple beyond loving well designed hardware. This thing is an engineering marvel. When balanced on a telescopic controller, it's so perfectly proportioned that it feels considerably lighter than it actually is.

[@jakestech2739]

@ that’s good to hear, I have a really fast router setup so my legion gets 1ms of latency at 1600p 144hz right now using moonlight. Have you tried streaming to it at full resolution and 120hz?

[@GameTechTalk]

@@jakestech2739 I have and much like you, I'm extremely invested in having peak performance with Moonlight and needless to say, it's everything I could hope for, well almost. I wish we had 240hz panel but oh well ahahahhah!

[@OryxNatesPlace]

Thinking about ditching my ps portal for this to have a bigger screen. Does it work great with ps remote play?

[@GameTechTalk]

@ It works as good if not better. The one thing of course is your sacrifice adaptive triggers and haptic HD feedback but if you’re ok with not having those, the experience is pretty great! There’s also a paying app to stream your PS5 that’s better than the official remote play app. I greatly recommend it!

[@nervouszoom4640]

For ipad pro 13 2024 is it also for gaming and rendering like creative stuff and work?

[@GameTechTalk]

You mean why I got the one I have? It was primarily for work. I use it mainly in my production but I’d be remiss if I didn’t admit that I am not using it anywhere as much as it should be used, considering how expensive that it is.

[@nervouszoom4640]

@@GameTechTalkYes but I’m also referring to the other iPods off on Amazon or EBay

[@GameTechTalk]

@@nervouszoom4640 Yeah so iPads are indeed tools for all the things you said. I think they are particularly good for creative stuff albeit expensive. With that said, a Tab S tablet from Samsung will get you 90% of the way there for a fraction of the price if you compare to top tier options. The good news is you can get a "pen" experience with a whole spectrum of iPads, just make sure that the one you buy is compatible. If you want to do a lot of video rendering, you have to go with the iPad Pro options absolutely, and I think only the M2 and M4 iPad Pros are viable.

[@koi-et7lw]

G8 or kishi ultra? For android and windows

[@GameTechTalk]

If money is no object, or maybe it isn't but you still prefer money-smart decisions, go G8. If your mindset is: "The best, no matter the cost", go Kishi Ultra. In other words, If G8 Galileo is 100%, Kishi Ultra is 110%. The extra you get with the Ultra does not warrant double the price that it almost always costs AND, they both lose features that the other one has so some differences are lateral more than vertical. I hope this helps, cheers!

[@raf.nogueira]

How is the springs of Galileo holding after the mod ?

[@GameTechTalk]

Extremely well, it still closes just fine after all the suffering it endured. The X2s is the one that will keep that small gap after being stretched a bit too long.

[@raf.nogueira]

@@GameTechTalk Yes but the X2s is naturally smaller, I have the both, just waiting my tab S9 Plus to arrive to test it

[@White_man00]

This iPad in video 11 inch or 13 ?

[@GameTechTalk]

Oh my bad, it's the 13 inch 256mb, so 9 cores instead of 10 and 8gb instead of 16gb. Cheers!

[@InitialD016]

Are those controllers modded?? I bought the Galileo 8 and I returned it because it wouldn't fit my iPad Mini 6

[@GameTechTalk]

It is yeah, I have a video that is a short breakdown of the thing, great to see if this is something you'd be willing to do: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppCUfYprp9Nqiqs RetroBreeze has a nice video showing you the process, he was the actual inspiration hence why I credit him: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZKsi3V8q7igqM0

[@hotplugin]

Thanks for sharing 🎉

[@GameTechTalk]

Thanks for watching! 🙂

[@HDBnB1]

Does this work with the switch pro contorller

[@GameTechTalk]

The Switch Pro Controller works on iOS but only through bluetooth, it doesn't work wired. So yes, there is no reason why it wouldn't, albeit with maybe a bit of latency but nothing too crazy that it wouldn't be playable.

[@donotwant9551]

How is the weight and weight distribution using the Gamesir controllers with such a large tablet? Comfortable to use for an extended period?

[@GameTechTalk]

So the regulars of my channel will probably pick it up from my buying habits, I like big. Big and bold is something I definitely embrace and for me, the Win Max 2 (if you're familiar) for example is very fine to play on. With that said, I've attached controllers on the Minisforum V3, on the Tab S8 Ultra and by far, the device on which it feels best in terms of weight distribution and the balancing act of playing extended periods with ANYTHING in the "heavy" handheld compartment, this setup wins easily. It is an engineering marvel this thing, the thinness and super well distributed weight through its body makes it feel way lighter than it actually is. So I'd say it is impressive how viable this solution is but in that same breath, I hope to illustrate just how much comfortable I am around these "heavier" solutions too.

[@donotwant9551]

@@GameTechTalk Thanks so much! I have an original Max and a Max 2 (the latter being one of my favorite devices of all time. So that was a comparison that hits home. Found your channel on a random recommendation and glad I did.

[@retrotechdad]

I want one so much, keep thinking about it 😂😅 I am definitely looking forward to seeing M4 in a Mac. Great video, Klef! 🙏

[@GameTechTalk]

Hey, if it isn't my brother-in-arm of buying tech that people are like: "But why?" 😂 All I gotta say besides it being a phenomenal piece of hardware is, if you do get one, make sure you can leverage it for way more than gaming cause that title is not misleading, it's way overkill! Thanks Dad 😊

[@disownedrock]

incredible vid sub earned

[@GameTechTalk]

Ohh dang that is nice of you to say, thanks a lot!

[@KazFricker-cn6wq]

I'm super excited to get my m4 pro will the 8gb ram be enough to emulate switch ? Botw pokemin sv

[@GameTechTalk]

I'd be lying if I said I understand MacOS's ram management well enough to answer that question. But from a logical point of view, even though 8gb seem very little in modern day's standards, as long as the ram management is handled accordingly by the OS, most games should be able to run in some capacity. Would having 16gb ram be better? Obviously. But well before being concerned by ram, having the emulator that can play such titles will be a much greater barrier of entry for a good while. At least I would think so. Cheers!

[@anghelitogames]

can you use it with ipad case?

[@GameTechTalk]

You can yes! Arguably not as comfortable but every now and then, it beats taking it in and out of the case, as I’m sure is your motive as well! xD

[@PInoyHenyoRito]

this or gpd win mini 2024 pls help and reply and why

[@GameTechTalk]

So I'm not the best guy to ask and the reason is I bought the first Win Mini and ended up not reviewing it because somewhow, I wasn't inspired by it. Honest truth. It's not a bad device but it didn't do it for me. Now the 2024 does have VRR which addresses one of the ick I had with but ultimately, it comes to understanding just how immensely different these two devices are. So for me to give you the best possible advice, I have to ask, what is your top 3 main goals with a handheld in order of importance? (eg. gaming / productivity / Netflix / portability / etc...) Also, would you be new in the Apple ecosystem of products and OSes? Are you more a Windows type of person? That'll give me a better understanding of what you need to better make my recommandation.

[@PInoyHenyoRito]

@@GameTechTalk thank you for being active replying now want to buy this ....last question hahaha wich controller is best for the 11 inch on your same set up is it playable or is it heavy will buy m4 because of your video i want a same set up like you

[@GameTechTalk]

@@PInoyHenyoRito I personally prefer the Galileo G8 with it but the X2s is surprisingly feasible if you prefer to not have to mod the controller. With that said, one feels more amateurish than the other whereas the Galileo G8 feels like a proper handheld solution albeit with a bit of extra effort. I hope this helps!

[@PInoyHenyoRito]

Thank you so much brother

[@jtothebell]

I wish my old iPad 3 could download RetroArch without the mega janky jailbreak. It still has a nice screen and plenty of power for retro games.

[@GameTechTalk]

Yeah, it sucks for devices outside of the support "umbrella". 😕

[@matthewritenour3529]

Dude, I’ve been trying to find a controller that would fit this device all day. Any chance that you might do a tutorial on how to do the mods on the better unit? Or both? Edit: I just saw that you did a video my bad.

[@ilkeryoldas]

Bsp d9 fits anything up to 11 inches.. I have a video of it on my channel

[@matthewritenour3529]

@@ilkeryoldas I have the 13 inch 🤣

[@GameTechTalk]

@@matthewritenour3529 I have a tutorial but it's uncut (where you see the mod) only in french: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ooPPhoqMm755ors The english version of that video has the mod portion accelerated: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppCUfYprp9Nqiqs And I accelerated it because this creator did already a phenomenal video covering the "how": kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZKsi3V8q7igqM0 I feel as though there was an extensive enough coverage pertaining to that controller and I don't have a second one to redo the mod unfortunately. But, I'll talk to GameSir, see if we can make this happen. Cheers!

[@gerardofacundo6721]

Appreciate the video

[@GameTechTalk]

I'm happy to read it and thanks for sharing it with me! 😊

[@JaydenTucker-z8t]

For that retroarch part with the n64 emulation you resolution is 2560x1920 i know this video is only for educational purposes but can you go higher

[@GameTechTalk]

You can but it'll chug. With that said, I'm sure the compatibility will keep improving so it might do so effortlessly in the future.

[@JaydenTucker-z8t]

@@GameTechTalk all right

[@JaydenTucker-z8t]

Plus great HDR top of retroarch I don't know it can do that

[@JaydenTucker-z8t]

When you turn up the resolution on the n64 emulation will it run good or not?

[@GameTechTalk]

@@JaydenTucker-z8t To a certain level, it won't hurt the performance, past a certain level it will, so it's always a "trial and error" kind of thing as some games may be harder to run than others. You want to approach each game differently, see what works, save your settings and adjust as needed as you play, in a nutshell! :)

[@woozi36]

But how is the weight tho? Also when I see people doing this with the gyro controllers like overstretching them, I can’t help to think that it’s actually not safe.

[@GameTechTalk]

It's shockingly viable. If you worked with a Steam Deck, a ROG ALLY, it feels lighter than both despite being quite close in number. I think it's due to how slim the device is, the footprint of its weight does not spread outside of a very VERY contained "sheet". There are printable covers for these controllers when stretched. Also, I can literally hold the springs, it doesn't nothing. GameSir designed alien tech with this system, it's so good!

[@SantiagoGarcia-gx2cx]

I love it

[@GameTechTalk]

As do I, been using it a lot since making this video. Overkill it is, but awesome too for sure!

[@michaelbenny659]

That’s a big screen on that handheld

[@GameTechTalk]

It most certainly is! But what's so shocking is how light it still feels. I gotta give credit where credit is due, it is impressive engineering!

[@lobstershrimp]

Overkill and most importantly OVERPRICED

[@GameTechTalk]

Ahhhh.. as much as I want to agree on that one (cause believe it or not, I'm not a fan of Apple), the iPad really is an engineering marvel, which is why I ultimately disagree. It's not cheap, and it doesn't have an OS to let that hardware shine to its full potential but I do admit that it is impressive hardware.

[@lobstershrimp]

@@GameTechTalk I didn't say it's garbage. But it's overpriced.

[@GameTechTalk]

@@lobstershrimp Fair enough

[@trevorjonathan4405]

@@lobstershrimp It’s arguably the best Oled screen out there with 1000 nits standard. Stunning for cloud gaming

[@runeass]

Will emulator use more than 8gb of ram ?

[@GameTechTalk]

The only emulator that we potentially might have a harder time with if/when it ever comes to the App store would be Switch and maybe PS2... Maybe some Wii U titles as well but not the majority? Anything else would be fine. Apple also employs very intricate ram management so I'd assume even the later systems to do fine with shader cache and whatnot. The challenge would most likely be more along the lines of finding the right developers to take advantage of Apple's ram management system but there are a lot of very intelligent people out there so time will tell. Edit: In other words, I don't know that paying the overcharged premium for 16gb is worth, based on the sheer amount of time it will most likely take for options that we don't have to become available on iPads. If you're buying an iPad thinking you could upgrade in 4-5 years, don't have concern over it. If you're buying thinking you'll have at least 10 years with this machine and would want to emulate Switch in the future... It's still a gamble but I could see the 16gb give you obvious advantages down the road. I hope this helps and sorry for wall-of-text!

[@runeass]

@@GameTechTalk I’m still stuck haha, debating to upgrade my 2018 12.9 pro to either 1tb 11” or the base 13”. I do plan to keep it as long as I can. What are your thoughts on it?

[@GameTechTalk]

@@runeass ​ @runeass I had that same internal battle. I ordered the 13 256gb and then I was like: "Ohh dang, should I have gone 1tb, should I have gone 11." I ended up rationalizing it and made my bro change his 1tb to 256gb and he's happy he did. The upcharge is just too significant. The extra core, space and ram are fun to have but let's be real, we'd be paying 50% upcharge on 1-5% use case scenarios? And when we really stop and wonder, it is obviously designed to rack in more profit, not offer flexibility. 20-25% uptick would've been: "Hey just make it how you feel", not 50%. So Apple making those changes is a willingful decision to induce FOMO. When coming to that conclusion, my choice was clear. Ultimately, as an editor, GPU was more important for me and that doesn't change so I stuck with 256gb and I bought this: geni.us/809Bzv (affiliated). This is such a game changer that 256gb is not even any semblance of a concern and with FCP2, I'll be able to edit off it so yeah. Best decision I made. As for 11 vs 13, I think it all comes down to "lifestyle" preferences. I like bigger screen and don't mind the extra weight but I did hesitate for about 37 secs if portability was more my jam, turns out it isn't. I hope this helps and again, sorry for wall-of-text #2! 🤣

[@sweedishpie360]

For emulation, the tabs9 is just better. It's actually no contest. Better aspect ratio as well. I play gamecube, ps2, even switch games on my tab s9

[@GameTechTalk]

I have the Tab S7 Plus and S8 Ultra. I was going to buy the Tab S9 but decided I was going a bit overboard 😅 . They are great products for sure and I think I’ll have no choice when a Tab10 is up on the market. DeX is crazy good, the panel is, it’s Android, Snapdragon’s 8 Gen is stupid efficient and powerful. Yes, I agree it’s great stuff but the iPad is just as awesome in its own rights, you just found what works best for you and that is why choice is important!

[@sweedishpie360]

@@GameTechTalk couldn't have said it better!

[@chronicponics]

maybe, but its nice that most devices can play these with very similar results!

[@irem.1028]

iPad is okay, i have one but I rather have a android tablet,emulating nswitch would be so cool

[@GameTechTalk]

They both have their qualities and benefits over one another. The iPad Pro is part of my production tool at this point but for games and entertainment, I 100% agree, I prefer Android as well.

[@JayzBeerz]

The M1 iPad Air was overkill. 😂

[@GameTechTalk]

Lots of overkill with Apple but I think they feel the heat from Qualcomm in particular so they need to flex a bit. Releasing that M3 barely what, 4 months after top M2s was a bit strange and I feel like they alienated M3 again with releasing M4.

[@JayzBeerz]

@@GameTechTalk Apple is about to release the M4 Extreme.

[@GameTechTalk]

@@JayzBeerz 🤣 I'd say don't jinx it but lol, you're right, the damn thing is probably 3-4 months away from being announced. iPhone 16 Pro Max now equipped with M4 chips -_-'

[@JayzBeerz]

@@GameTechTalk really M4 chip in a phone. Wow. I saw videos months ago about all the M4 chips coming out soon.

[@Gatot2205]

Cool

[@felipeluis5948]

Deus nos ama

[@matthewgregory2106]

wow. You can pronounce Arch properly!

[@GameTechTalk]

😂 We'll have to thank the french portion of my brain because that's how "ch" is pronounced in the language I grew up on. I'll happily take the compliment though. Thanks😊

[@bustdown718]

No.

[@GameTechTalk]

Thanks for engaging!

[@emiliev]

First! 🥇

[@GameTechTalk]

Yes you are, always!

[@init_yeah]

Oh hello no, respect to it as a machine but not as a software😢

[@GameTechTalk]

A lot of people want iPad OS to blow up and for iPads to have a proper MacOS experience. I doubt it'll happen but I can understand... having this much power without a better suited operating system is a bit of a letdown but if dealing with one app at a time, it's still quite epic and powerful.

[@jarreneaston8348]

@@GameTechTalk I agree they won’t make a device to compete with its own products. iPad is only meant for creative professionals like myself. iPad is a great tool if use to its full potential also has learning curve as well. Not for everyone for sure.

[@RandomUser-tj3mg]

still no jit. Android is just better. All that power is useless

[@GameTechTalk]

I hear you and I think a lot of iPad users are frustrated with the software and OS situation but I do think, at least to some extent, that the hardware quality speaks for itself.

[@lmaoyoudumb619]

@@RandomUser-tj3mg there is jit using trollstore, and altstore there’s so many ways to enable jit thru jailbreak and none jailbroken devices meanwhile sometimes andriod require root

[@Veizzy69]

You can use jit even without a jailbreak just not officially

[@lobstershrimp]

Meh...

[@GameTechTalk]

Tks for watching!

[@lobstershrimp]

​@@GameTechTalk Was not for ur video, just another overkill tech that can't even run AAA games or take full advantage of all that power. I would much rather get the Samsung Galaxy Tab S9 Ultra for video content, especially with expandable storage and I can actually drag and drop my 4K movies / series collection to watch anywhere anytime. Larger widescreen... oh! Waterproof too. All for less than the cheapest iPad model.

[@felipeluis5948]

Deus nos ama

[@GameTechTalk]

😊🙏