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[@Thetechchap]

Hey Chaps! Would you go iPad or Surface?? (or neither)!

[@izzatchakhachiro3286]

neither, rog is the best option imo

[@oeduardopontes]

As a secondary, non-work device, the iPad. But if I need to use it for any work purposes, the Surface for sure.

[@alexbenton9364]

iPad for sure

[@kaziasifmahmud2839]

Ipad

[@jaughnekow]

None.

[@vlesmeries]

Basically it boils down to traditional productivity and whether you want a tablet. The convergence is not quite there for both: iPad = tablet trying to be a laptop; surface pro = laptop trying to be a tablet. I have my dual screen phone for media consumption so I went with the Pro 9.

[@momotow8286]

Well put

[@tobybrundin862]

i bought the ipad pro for work use, but the iOS apps are feeble on the whole when compared with their desktop equivalents

[@wayando]

Surface + iPhone ... You got everything you need.

[@atlwoo]

@@wayandocan you explain more please I’m looking @ either m4 iPad Pro or the new surface

[@wayando]

@@atlwoo ... It depends on what you normally do. Personally, a good majority of my work runs on Windows based computers ... So a Surface Pro makes a lot of sense. Meaning an iPad would be a totally useless machine only good for watching movies and browsing ... And for the price, it doesn't make sense. An iPhone can do most of the iPad functions, even though it's on a smaller screen.

[@onfire8179]

Bought the ipad pro as a replacement for my surface pro 5 that I used for everything and loved it. It was my only machine. When I needed a new one I got excited over the ipad and bought it. Now I feel limited by everything I want to do with it and I use my work notebook or my old surface pro 5 again. The iPad is now basically an expensive remote to fire up KZbin on my tv lol

[@yassinrian292]

buy a rasberry pi or something similar and you can enjoy your Ipad once again:)

[@Chivoyage]

I almost did this but ended up choosing a Surface Pro 9 last minute, don't regret it one bit!

[@igbolady7481]

​@@yassinrian292You gotta pay for everything on iPad.

[@Cyberglad]

Nobody is talking about it, but the charger you need for surface is bigger, similar to the MacBook, it needs 65w. Where as iPad Pro can be charged with your iPhone charger (change the cable to usb c). Small, handy and cheap. All in all, of course, surface is a better device for all office work. For ex, try to compare folder and file contents of two folders, good luck w that on an iPad and count how many clicks and switches you need for this simple task

[@chaniboy]

I have and love both. However, I’m always reaching for the surface pro for school, work, or anything productive. I attempted using the iPad Pro for notetaking during lecture. Unfortunately the OneNote app on iPad is missing a lot of the features that I use. I also found multitasking capabilities of the iPad Pro to be a hindrance during class. it’s much easier and more productive to go between applications such as chrome to have canvas open, Microsoft Word, PowerPoint for my lecture slides, draw board for PDFs and OneNote on the surface pro. that said, the iPad Pro offers a A better tablet experience. Sadly, I’ve only been using the iPad to watch KZbin and to draw in procreate

[@orlfane1622]

I'd like the ipad pro or the surface pro 9 just for drawing. I hate the ipad os but it seems like the ipad and the Appel pencil are better to draw with than the surface pro 9 and then new pencil. What do you think?

[@saifuddinadnan3290]

@squeekyclean1644 that's because they don't want to kill the Macbook line by doing so. That's the same reason they don't make macbooks with touchscreens so they dont kill ipad pro.

[@doubleecpu7180]

@@saifuddinadnan3290 They don't make touchscreen macs because of licensing and patent issues, you can connect a touchscreen to a mac/macbook but the driver software for MacOS cost $250, I also only use my ipad for youtube or VLC for media consumption only.

[@whitecanid8938]

The trick is probably to find an old M1 ipad with version

[@chaniboy]

@@whitecanid8938 I'm just gonna stick to the Surface Pro, that's wild tho.

[@PhazonBlaxor]

It's weird how every reviewer likes to remind how iPad is lighter and thinner, then they recommend keyboards for both, and fail to mention iPad is both heavier and thicker with the keyboards. That doesn't matter, I suppose. 🤷‍♂

[@oeduardopontes]

I love my iPad Pro but the lack of a proper desktop browser make it a leisure device. Got a Surface Pro 8 and I prefer to tolerate Windows shortcomings as a touch device because I can run desktop Firefox and Chrome.

[@jmanakajosh9354]

Surface is trash

[@nointernetdinosoursgame2351]

@@jmanakajosh9354 if you get the lowest spec sure

[@DojiKing]

The great part of windows is the customization you can do with the UI. So it 100% possible to make the bland and boring UI look a lot better and also be more touch friendly. Plus with windows 11 also supporting Android app natively it adds a whole new world or possibilities.

[@andrewdhome]

Lack of proper browser and any decent file manager kill the iPad as a proper productivity device

[@oeduardopontes]

@@andrewdhome I'm 100% convinced that Apple will avoid both as long as they can. That would impact App Store a lot, and I can see a bunch of people not getting Macs and be fulfilled with just an iPad

[@JoJoHartt]

Surface pro 9 all the way. The ability to run full fledge programs goes a very long way in college/workplace 💯

[@akin242002]

Agreed! Also the battery life is far better than previous versions. Going from bad to solid. Great for Excel gurus or Power Bi users.

[@uwusgrufus]

🤡

[@edgarmorenocastillo8601]

What's college? It's the 2020s. Wake up.

[@jaydee8553]

Microsoft the software company that avoid being in the news but quietly has been the most innovating company for the past 10 years.

[@farishanafiah8461]

It's a shame that corporate blunder can get in the way and kill off some hugely enticing product. Windows Phone shows that it can easily be a true pocket PC, especially with the existence of Windows on ARM.

[@theseb1979]

😂

[@VikashKumar-fr4rf]

Every software Microsoft has ever produced sucks! Windows 11 is nightmare

[@xmaverickhunterkx]

XD

[@farishanafiah8461]

@@VikashKumar-fr4rf Totally doubt it. Since I started using Windows 10 and now 11, I don't miss going back to 7.

[@FrankieWellman]

I have have had multiple versions of the iPad and iPad Pro. I just sold my iPad Pro 12.9 5th gen and got a Surface Pro 8 i7 and am very happy with the change. I can still do my tablet type stuff but now I have a real computer for those tasks as well.

[@PhazonBlaxor]

I also have SP8. Does yours warm up easily? Mine did doing the most mundane of things such as watching KZbin. Managed to fix it with comibation of legacy power settings and throttlestop though, now the fans don't kick off at all unless I'm really pushing it. Great machine overall, love having the power of full computer in a tablet.

[@marceljohnson2215]

You should’ve kept both. I have 5th gen 12.9 and also bought sp8 i7 16gb. For my use case I use the iPad Pro daily

[@uwusgrufus]

🤡

[@Dalmado]

I traded in my iPad Pro 12.9” for the new surface pro 9 the Intel version in blue and I am so much more happier with the performance of the surface Pro! Apple needs to take the iPad to the next level!

[@Hiro_Ieyasu]

You can trade in your ipad to Microsoft?

[@paul28177]

must admit...the surface pro camera test for video chat seemed better and the audio sounded slightly better too

[@jmanakajosh9354]

But you can’t use iMessage on it

[@evest7829]

@@jmanakajosh9354 I live in Europe and literally no one here uses iMessage, even if they have an Apple device. Many third party messengers are a lot more convenient. Not being able to use iMessage seems like a uniquely American problem.

[@Lee.S321]

@@jmanakajosh9354 Outside of the US, very few people would miss iMessage, if they even knew what it was.

[@logisticalstyles]

I agree, I thought the Surface camera looked better

[@angelopebs]

The noise isolation on the new surface laptops are stupid levels of good

[@KamilG225]

As a pro in the creative field…I’ve officially given up on the iPad Pro lineup as laptop replacement for the foreseeable future. Hear me out. I’m a full time helicopter photojournalist (news station video) that also shoots weddings, commercials, etc. So I know that my work & workflow puts these type of devices to the test, but ironically enough it’s the simplistic tasks that makes it feel like I’m constantly jumping through hoops. For months I was absolutely determined to make it work and convinced myself that it’s actually me that has a mental block on why it’s so unintuitive. Today, after spending probably 5x longer doing simple tasks than I should have because I just need to make it work, I’ve decided it’s not me. I’m not saying the iPad Pro lineup doesn’t have a place in my life, but it’s not for a pro. Not because it doesn’t have pro power…it’s because the UI is just absolute trash and it infuriates me knowing that the only reason it’s trash is because Apple has to have a differential from their laptop lineup.

[@andyH_England]

True, there is zero economies for Apple to make the iPad touch macOS device. I have no idea why people think it will ever happen as it would be a major loss making business for Apple. Their USP is to make complimentary devices, the best laptop and the best laptop running their OS’es. This is sensible, as Apple is a small player in the PC market and they do not need to compete against themselves as well as facing the natural monopoly Windows has. I would never use my iPad as my only device. I use it for doing my daily work when out and about, and when I get back to base, all the work is in the cloud to complete on my Mac. That suits me fine.

[@Thetechchap]

Firstly - that's an awesome job! very jealous., Secondly, I completley agree about the jumping through hoops

[@fernandodaniel3790]

i've tried, but the ipad just cannot be a laptop replacement. Ended getting a Macbook M1

[@midashaymaker8308]

Exactly why my iPad collect dust now

[@ccroy2001]

The Surface connect port on Surface devices is also a data port. Since I am on my 2nd Surface device I went ahead and bought the Surface dock. Now I always have ports free to use. I bought the Surface over an iPad or Samsung tablet because I can use a full desktop browser and all my extensions work. I have the Surface Go 3 with an i3. I thought I'd just use it as a tablet around the house and travel laptop, but it's become my main home PC. I haven't used my Asus laptop in months.

[@_entrxpy]

I also have an Asus pc (a TUF one eventhough I don’t use it for gaming) and I’m also considering getting a Surface tablet (or a Pixel tablet) to replace my stupid iPad that I’m using for taking notes in university. I doubt the surface will ever replace my asus since I use it for intensive works (like rendering, heavy CAD engineering, simulations etc.) 😅

[@peekaboooooooo]

It's 2023 we can't be comparing a kids toy to a college student's laptop. Even my Surface Pro 2 was able to run AutoCAD during my college days in engineering school. But I do understand the average person does not run more advanced tools so these videos are needed for the average user.

[@chaniboy]

Great video. I have the surface 8, my fav computer ive bought in a long time. Wanted an iPad too tho so i bought the 12 inch pro on a black Friday deal. Sadly, i reach for the surface 90% of the time. I really tried using the iPad as a graduate student who works full-time, it just can't keep up and especially in class lectures. The multitasking and productivity of the Surface is incomparable. Also, i have a very nice Logitech case that poorly mimics the Surface kick stand. However, it makes the ipad feel Soo much bulkier and heavier than the surface. I just use the surface although i really wanna like the ipad.

[@DIGITAL_DECAY.EXE_]

The x factor here is that the windows device isn't locked down like the Ipad. You can do almost anything like downloading a new OS or completely customizing your UI with the WinTel machine.

[@nickthaskater]

Definitely would have liked to have seen the Tab S8 Plus or Ultra in this comparison with these two. The ability to flip between the tablet interface and DeX make it very flexible.

[@citywalkdxb7245]

AGREED

[@deetles98]

My experience with Samsung tablets has been very poor. I had one last 2 years and another last only 1 year. I was never an Apple person until the second Samsung went bad. I ran to Apple and I’ve had my budget iPad nearly 4 years. It’s been great with no issues up until recently. Now I have the iPad Pro m1 on order ..refurbished full warranty and looking forward to many years with it. I won’t waste money on Samsungs anymore.

[@tbonedude12]

No. They are not comparable products. the tab 8 plus has a cellphone processor in it and no significant features to make it seriously competitive with the local power of apple or microsoft. It is also priced that way, and overpriced at that. It's not really that hard, you get what you pay for. Maxed Surface 9 > Ipad pro M2 >> tab s8+, surfaces going for like 1k for i7 base, ipad pro m2 going for 799, tab s8+ going for like 649.

[@Eleventy8]

I have a S8 Ultra with the keyboard etc., Same Issues with owning an iPad Pro, it's just a tablet. Dex offers very little in terms of productivity. I'm a web dev by day, try doing anything meaningful on an iPad Pro or Galaxy tablet! I wanted to like both the iPad Pro and Galaxy Tabs but the girlfriend uses my iPad Pro to play stupid games and the Galaxy Tab Ultra isn't even charged up anymore. If all you do is type stuff on Google docs and watch KZbin videos, go for either. Want to actually do some work, go for the Surface Pro.

[@yassinrian292]

@@Eleventy8 "not even charged anymore" haha ..yep ..you have all those youtube reviewers hyping up Dex ..but honestly what can you do with it ...pretty much nothing in term of productivity :) ... I would also chose for the surface but I like the Ipad better as an overall tablet ..a solution for programmers would be to have a rasberry pi or similar with linux which you can connect with your Ipad and still do the programming stuff :)

[@wjones106]

Great video as always. I think you have you aspect ratio’s mixed up. The SP9 is 3:2 and the Ipad is the boxier 4:3.

[@zamimotret]

nah ini😅😅

[@Thetechchap]

Good spot!! my mistake :)

[@mannkeithc]

I have a M1 12.9-inch iPad Pro 2TB model with magic keyboard and Apple Pencil 2. The performance is fantastic, but the lack pro apps and pro capabilities, such as being able to format / repair external SSDs and memory cards, run virtual machines, and side load apps, all of which it should be technical possible, but not supported by iPad Pro 16 makes it an extremely poor value for money computer. I originally bought it to replace my MacBook Pro 13, because I need a mobile computing device to have a touch display with pen support, but an iPad Pro is not a standalone device. You also need a computer to cover its deficiencies. I carry around a Raspberry Pi 4 with 8GB RAM configured as a USB-C gadget, where the iPad provides the UI and power for the Pi, and the Pi does all the things my iPad Pro can't! And you also need a Mac computer, XCode and an Apple developer account should you need to put your iPad into developer mode. Knowing what I know today, I would go with Microsoft's Surface Pro 9 over an M2 iPad Pro every time. An M series iPad Pro is a waste of money. If you must have an Apple tablet, go with the M1 iPad Air. Apple are too focused on grabbing your money rather than providing fully functional mobile computing devices.

[@sharathtr600]

I'm planning to go for a new tech investment. Would like your inputs since you've seen both sides, I m looking for a device which helps me read PDFs and as well give me edge as a deskot use. I was initially considering iPad air M1 vs iPad pro M1 . Now since I've come across sp9 , I can't seem to shake off the idea of having a dual usage gadget... What's your opinion??

[@Unamatrix01]

As a mechanical engineer with a custom high-end desktop workstation along with a maxed out Dell XPS 15 9520. I am in the Apple ecosystem with my Apple iPhone 14 Pro Max, Apple Watches and my M1 iPad Pro. I prefer to have my tablet be in the same ecosystem as my phone, so I can edit photos on either device easily. Furthermore, I do agree that the Apple iPad Pro has untapped potential with the lack of professional software such as Final Cut, Logic and X-Code. I am looking forward to the release of DaVinci Resolve on the iPad Pro .

[@SteveVickAK]

I like that you point out it is more important to figure out which software you want to use and not focus on the hardware. I have been trying to choose which one I want and I am leaning toward the surface so I can use the full versions of Adobe products. The adobe apps are sub par when compared to there full versions.

[@LogicLegionnaire]

The reason for Apple’s absolutely powerful chip in an iPad is clearly Long term usage… an iPad Pro M2 will still be a relevant and powerful device after say 5-6 years and it’s just more future proof because of its powerful chip. It can even run Ray tracing mobile games which will be launched in future for sure

[@Angelfox51]

I have an iPad and while as a tablet it's nice, well, there are serious issues to use it as an extension of your PC. For work, Word, and powerpoint are highly limited on iPad. There are no macros, and a lot of options are not available. For gaming, while those devices are not for gaming but you can play games with geforce now, I would say not completely on iPad, there are again limitations: you can't play your games on geforce now using a mouse and keyboard. Finally, Siri and AI are really limited on iPad. So I'm considering changing for a surface in the future.

[@SteveMartinUSA]

As an 18 month owner of the iPad Pro 12.9, and a long time software developer, I'll take the Surface for sure.

[@YippeePlopFork]

I’ve been an iPad Pro user for only two years now (I had Android tablets before) and I have the 2TB 12.9” pro model iPad now. Initially I was blown away by the looks and the graphics of the iPad Pro but I very quickly discovered that there is really only *one* thing the iPad Pro 12.9” does well: sketching / diagramming. That’s it. That’s the *only* thing that it does better than any of my other devices and even then, one of my laptops is a two in one windows machine with touchscreen and pen and it does sketching and diagramming almost as well. Most of my disappointment comes from just how tightly Apple have locked down this “pro” level device, making it impossible to access underlying file system, unable to use desktop level software (despite having 16GB of RAM) and so many other restrictions we have only recently been “allowed” (Wtaf?!!) to connect external drives… I’m sorry but Apple have completely the wrong idea of what a “pro” level device should be and until they give the iPad Pro macOS or a similar desktop type os or at the very least stop restricting the iPad Pro in the ways they have, I’m selling my iPad Pro m2 and switching to Microsoft surface pro. Incidentally, I hate Microsoft as a company, but this is one time that they’ve gotten something right over Apple.

[@hksduhksdu]

They are completely different things. Surface Pro gives full desktop OS, iPad is a true tablet. I have a SP8 i5/16/256, it’s great when I need the power, I hook it up with a 3070 inside Core X. As a tablet, UI sucks and because OS is not optimized for tablet, battery life sucks as well. If one day windows decided to have a tablet mode that can make it last more than 8 hours, or Apple decided to put MacOS on the iPad, then I think it will be time to compare.

[@Space97.]

This didn't age well

[@binishulman8655]

1:03 btw for anyone who noticed the atrocious latency on the Surface at this point, know that it is a problem in the app being used (Microsoft Whiteboard). The latency in on most of the Windows ink platform is world class.

[@julianweiser9985]

Nah. You never tried a windows device with Wacom emr. A 60hz screen with S-Pen will be more responsive than a 120hz Surface with that garbage n-trig.

[@binishulman8655]

@@julianweiser9985 my daily PC is a Samsung Galaxy Book Pro 360 5G (with an S-pen). But I've played around a lot with other 2-in-1s such as the MS Surface Pro 8 & 9. Yes EMR is better. But purely with respect to latency, Windows Ink algorithms are good enough to make the difference imperceptible.

[@donnydoit7678]

100% surface pro. I couldn’t download even a trading platform in iPad Pro.

[@nunosantos2015]

Apple been restricted for 12 years my last one was in 2010 iPhone 1 and ipad 1 since then I haven't touch any apple technology, and I'm very happy with windows and android

[@alka1993]

I ordered my surface pro 9 last week. I will receive it today . I think I choosed right one :)

[@theloniousMac]

I have an M2 iPad Pro 12.9, and I adore it but my favorite and most used iPad is my iPad Mini 6. It fits in one hand. Has full support for Apple Pencil 2. Is built for consuming books. Is the device I reach for (because it’s always with me) when I write in my journal, or take notes. It is just so handy. It fits in my jacket pockets.

[@NickGapp]

Good review. I wish I could afford both. Each has a strength that the other doesn't. I ultimately went with the Surface Pro 9 because I needed something that could pivot between work and play, and for me the iPad got 70-80% their in terms of productivity when I rented one out for a bit, but anytime I ran into a roadblock, it was aggravating. The file management system on an iPad is awful and I wish they would offer a better UI for folders. That would bump them up to at least 85% lol. Apple's walled garden approach also has become more of a turnoff for me. But it's still not sunshine and roses for Windows. The performance optimization bump with 12 gen Intel pushed it over the threshold of a functional all day computer which is great, but M1 still has a comfortable lead. Everything with the Surface has hit the "Good Enough" threshold, but there is so much that can be optimized. Luckily, a lot can be fixed with some thoughtful OS updates.

[@jmanakajosh9354]

Surface is trash….there are other option though like Samsung book 360

[@reynalda5211]

What do you think about the battery life?

[@NickGapp]

@@reynalda5211 It’s good! Overall sips energy at a steady rate. I chose the i5 because I wanted to maximize battery life and the i7 performance gains seemed marginal. I get around 10-15% battery drain per hour when I’m writing scripts, basic web stuff, videos. You can get a workday out of it. I do hope future gen Surface Pro’s get better batteries though for two reasons. 1 - you’ll get a full day on a full charge on the SP9, but there’s not much wiggle room. In other words, you still have to plan accordingly if you know you won’t be near any outlets for a bit. I wish the battery could last 10-12 hours, but 7-8 is good. 2- I wish it had fast charge. If I forget one day to charge it, I want to treat it like a phone and have it charge while I’m getting ready and feel confident that I can get a lengthy work session in after about a 20 min charge.

[@NickGapp]

Oh, and my workaround for creating more flexibility with this device is I bought an external battery if I accidentally don't have a full charge. So, the battery situation is easy to overcome. I will say one thing about photoshop that annoys me is it struggles with content aware healing types of tools. It's great for drawing, but I hope photoshop gets optimize for the new intel processors. Lastly, I played a game called "This is the Police" yesterday. A well optimized game for touch, but the computer got a little hotter than expected for a simple 2D game.

[@tommasoterzano5180]

Yes but is the M2 really useful? You can’t do nothing professional with it if not video or image processing

[@thebackpackerph]

Hmmm why compare a tablet to a PC? I'd understand if it was a Mac air or similar vs the surface.

[@nic_ccc3366]

These comparisons have been going on for years and everytime pretty much all reviewers say if it was your only device, go with the Surface. If it's a secondary device (ie you have a laptop) then iPad.

[@SurfNinja92]

I second this

[@Thetechchap]

basically this!

[@wicked5120]

Moving on from the iPad to the Surface Pro. Looking back on my use, the iPad is more of a "useful" accessory whereas the Surface Pro allows me to be productive and use the apps I already own. I do have a MacBook Pro and Mac Pro and find I ONLY use the iPad for reading news and searching the web. I can do all of that with a Surface Pro and in addition use my Adobe software, Office apps and everything else on the Surface Pro, so why wate the money on an iPad that is really superfluous? Yeah, if Apple would transition the iPad to Mac OS the story would be completely different, but that's NOT gonna happen.

[@ChatGPT1111]

I have grown far too used to touch screens to ever get a Mac laptop. Plus without that feature, the price of the Mac is about double what it is really worth.

[@SamKuul]

@8:22 I think 🤔 the iPad Pro has a 4:3 screen ratio, while the Surface Pro has a 3:2 screen ratio.

[@miskayheagth1694]

Nope

[@Thetechchap]

yep you're right my mistake

[@antonischr9141]

Similar video comparing the tab s8 ultra with the iPad would be great

[@bradavon]

And iPad with Lenovo Duet 3.

[@firozamehmood4751]

I have tab s8 ultra 5g super rare but wanna sell it

[@antonischr9141]

@@firozamehmood4751 did you not like it?

[@firozamehmood4751]

@Antonis Chr loved it but my requirement is on windows I can't do school work on it

[@Okamine]

@@antonischr9141had both. It all comes down to preference, but all I’m gonna say is that if you want a pure tablet experience get the iPad.

[@rana2985]

Which one is better for medical school??

[@commentarytalk1446]

THANK YOU !!! Someone finally said it about iPad with all that hardware M2 and untapped potential locked behind iPadOS !! Apple wants consumers to CONSUME MORE ! If only Surface Go or iPad Air Form Factor plus MacOS (even streamlined) plus the Kickstand (as you say of Surface). Then either a typecover or a full bluetooth keyboard and it would be a laptop and tablet KILLER... That folio keyboard weights 840g or so! That's insane for a portable device which weighs 450g !! It's also 299 Dollars...

[@tenniegk7424]

I have both however without biases I settled on ipad despite of it's software limitation it's solid device . Surface has myriad of issues from flickering screen to face ID issue in low light and poor battery . The issue I have encountered with ipad is magic keyboard where some keys fail once in a while

[@jon5784]

iPad is a toy, surface pro is a full OS and tablet. I almost made the mistake of buying the iPad pro but bought the surface pro 8 one year ago and I'm so glad I did. The surface pro 8 is an excellent machine, and has a 3.5mm headphone jack and longer battery life over the SP9. Go SP8 guys, before they are sold out.

[@WaffleToastering]

No mention of repairability? There was a bit on upgrading the SSD for the Surface Pro 9 but repairability at home is a big selling point.

[@lamurcribb1222]

I don’t think it is for most people

[@GhislainLeduc]

My biggest problem with the iPad, you can't block any ad on KZbin or on the web... I am getting so tired of ads in the middle of a video, I perfectly understand at the beginning and the end but DURING a video kills me...

[@ShivanshTyagi0108]

Does anyone else thinks that the Surface 9 camera looked better than the Ipad camera (despite the reviewer claiming otherwise), I saw a flicker and the sharpness was lot less than surface camera

[@KentBunn]

I want an iPad Pro, once they get the center mounted camera. At this time I'm pretty happy with my iPad Mini. But I also have a Surface Laptop, and a Surface Pro (older models of both). Different tools for different uses.

[@MegaPatuti]

The stage center works perfectly, is it not enough for you? I’m not trying to against your opinion as I’m actually curious.

[@k0618202]

If you need it for productivity purposes, Microsoft office etc then Surface Pro 9 (in my case i have the surface pro 8- I don’t feel like upgrading to surface pro 9 because it’s not worth it, although blue is my fav colour). Only problem is that it doesn’t have a KZbin app, then you’ll have to use chrome or edge. If you want an everyday tablet, KZbin, Disney, Amazon next flix then iPad Pro is your tablet. For me I bought the 11 inch M2 version as the 13 inch is too big to use. This has an Amazing screen (although not Oled), battery life is great (even with mobile legends and Diablo immortals installed), it never gets hot as the M2 processor is so good(my iPhone 13 Pro Max heats up so much when I’m playing this game). So this is my daily tablet.

[@lummatravel]

The cheaper iPads also allow you to use the streaming apps with no problems. Why would you buy a Pro?

[@PhazonBlaxor]

I'd love to have KZbin app on Surface, but honestly it works just as fine as web app.

[@k0618202]

@@lummatravel 120Hz screen for the iPad Pro m2.

[@RyanStone825]

I sold my 12.9 inch iPad Pro for the 2nd time in 3 years now and currently saving up for the Surface Pro 10 when it comes out. I went from the A12Z variant to the M1 expecting some radical software changes to make it a replacement for my 16-inch MacBook Pro when I don't want to bring it with me but the experience is awful. Using Safari for Google Docs is infuriating and the Word app is basically just an enlarged iPhone app. If you're looking for a regular tablet, go for the iPad Mini or Air. For productivity just get the MacBook Air/Surface Pro instead of the 12.9 inch iPad Pro.

[@lllow7931]

Hey I have the BIGGEST question. Is surface pro 9 OKAY for photography? 😭 Specifically flower bouquet & product photography. I can't find an answer anywhere on the internet.

[@nicoledriscoll1984]

Hi I never had a tablet before. I have movies saved on a flash drive in MPK & MP4. Is there a way I can plug and play the movies on either of these tablets? Thanks

[@viper2148]

My takeaway is if you want an iPad get an iPad and if you want a laptop get a laptop. Bottom line: you can save a bit of money and get more a specialized device if you pass up on either of these as your personal/professional solution.

[@kickedoutonthestreets]

I do programming for living but I also started street photography for hobby. I have a 14" ThinkPad configured for work with only FHD screen and no touchscreen, but sometimes I wish I could edit photos I've taken with a digital stylus/pencil/pen (and because I also like some logo sketching). Should I add iPad Pro to the workflow, or should I replace my current ThinkPad with just a Surface Pro? I previously had a Surface Pro 4 but it has too many problems, battery is bloated, and screen flickering so I throw it in a trash. Also sketching on OneNote was an unpleasant experience because it would getting slow after too many vectors are added. I heard iPadOS has many good sketching/note-taking apps, so I consider buying one. I even consider iPad Mini gen 6 because I don't think I will ever use the iPad for typing and the mini is very light addition to my bag. BUT I also want to see how far Surface Pro has matured. Sigh... tough call.

[@BLACKSYNTH]

I’m on the iPad Pro 2018. It’s lasted and is my daily driver for sitting with a coffee for an hour before work and taking to work. I do have a gargantuan 4090 PC I dropped and broke my Apple Pencil. And it got me thinking about just moving to surface pro 9. Or maybe 10/X. Would you say the screen on the surface pro 9 is on par with 2018 ipad pro? As I find that perfectly fine. I would love to run full fat Cubase 12 on the go.

[@JamesWilliam70]

I'm an Apple user, but I find iPad os very uninspiring like using a big toy like phone OS (great for consumption but not for getting the whole job done) after using my iPad Pro for several years it would probably be the surface 9 due to a full blown OS I can use pro apps on. I wish the iPad was a few inches bigger and apple gave us the option to dual boot into full blown Mac OS. It's a no brainer really now they have powerful apple silicon which mainly lies redundant under the crippled iPad os. The pencil would be a great pointing device on smaller ui elements in a full OS.

[@alareiks742]

Same

[@wayando]

Obviously, Surface Wins. For doing real work ... Because everything else can be done using a phone, which everyone has.

[@wieneckem]

It's sad that Microsoft decided to ditch the headphone jack. Are we audio professionals not "pros" in their eyes?

[@orangeyellow-me1pz]

The iPad can't replace my surface. I wish it could but no way. The kind of things i need it to do it still just cant.

[@afterworkio]

Surface can also double as light weight gaming laptop + access to full desktop applications. It has an edge over iPad. However lack of offline movie downloads from streaming services limits its appeal for air travel. iPad is more of a consumption device than work device, If I have Surface in my backpack I know I can get anything done, with iPad not so much. So my vote goes to Surface.

[@KentBunn]

No, it's not always smart to use a VPN. 90% of the use cases they are advertised on, are not actually doing a damn thing.

[@HamRadioPortableOperations]

SP pro 9 or the new 2024 SP pro 11 🤔 - Some good deals on 9 at the min but sp 11 now running ARM and Emulator... Just not sure!

[@Thetechchap]

SP11 on ARM is going to feel a bit experimental regarding emulation and with limited native apps. But it's only going to improve and obviously has a lot of positives around battery life so excited to see what happens going forward.

[@mallkollm]

Which is best for 3D architecture/rendering and digital photorealism artwork?

[@mmmch7]

Great discussion! but i must say that @10:13 the freeform app in iOS and the Microsoft Whiteboard are more likely to be compared. In the note-taking space, the Microsoft OneNote app is more equivalent to the Notes app in the iOS space or a 3rd party app like Evernote.

[@francute2u]

If apple were able to make ios/ipad os app run on macOs, why cant they make macos app run on ipad pro?

[@akhiayaan]

Do you think the surface pro 9 is worth buying for like editing on after effects etc?

[@MNINiro]

Undoubtedly Surface is the winner as a productive machine. At least, it is not a toy like iPad. It my opinion as a user of both of the devices.

[@rishabdaga1985]

What would you suggest to purchase for a architect's POV? I m concerned whether my softwares would be supported in ipad

[@lykacamilla]

Seem the compression on the surface is compared to an actual computer rather then a tablet in many of the surface reviews. Just got myself go 3 and I'm blown away to have a mini portable computer with touch. I did have one time a touch computer from Asus back 2014 and wished it was smaller in size and now the future is here. If I do compare the surface with a computer it outperform my low end chromebook. Just use it too browse the Internet as intended but on the surface you got the PC experience on a tablet on the go. Can't praise enough how excellent Microsoft done the work for the generation of mini laptops that seemed like a far dream to have in 2009.

[@3v1l73ddy]

I use a surface pro 4 for art and even though I feel like I should upgrade to the iPad I know Windows and the horrible hover is a bit of a deal breaker on iPad. So I think I'm going Surface though I really like that keyboard attachment for the iPad.

[@raven468]

I have an M1 iPad pro 12.9 inch and with the magic keyboard it feels bigger and bulkier than my 13 inch dell XPS. But well, I still love it.

[@zubairkhan7461]

Can you make comparison video between Surface pro 9 and latest Microsoft laptop. Which one will be better

[@markca8937]

Surface Pro 9: for truly Workers iPad Pro M2 12.9: for Photographer and Designer

[@aravindchandra9753]

I don't see the smart charging setting in the surface app which was right there before the update 😔

[@Candijames]

Surface pro 9 will it be good to create music

[@comfortihongbe3190]

Im a windows kinda person, love the fluidity n' optimization of Apple but I just think Apple's all about the surface. We can all say we miss the Lumia (if only our guys in Microsoft didn't give up so easily)

[@hann87]

Do you experience screen ghosting/flickering .. With Pro 9?

[@stevencharette7918]

i can tell the refresh rate on the surface is at 60hz which is not a fair comparison ive seen little tricks by other reviewers to degrade the Surfaces true functionality. like turning the brightness down on the surface while the iPad's brightness is blasting at max cant take reviews here at face value

[@nj_mlimi]

This is my second time watching this and everytime he transitions from the webcams to the video he looks really pale. The webcams really put that saturation to good use

[@Kalafinwë]

I got myself a Surface Pro 9 for 2500$ (Canadian), all inclusive with keyboard and a pen. I chose the Forest green color and I must say that it beautiful. I got lucky to find this sale online, and I can say that the performance is amazing. I have a 16GB memory with 512 GB SSD storage. I do archival work, writing a lot, note taking and need many applications for my work. It does a great job, and for the price I am happy. I had a small issue with the charger block, it was doing a soft humming/buzzing sound when plugged in the outlet. I asked for a replacement and they sent me one for free. It must have been a defect, but many online say that it is not harmful because it is the coil making noise.

[@vincwong8498]

2:42 regarding gaming, what about mobile games? can surface pro 9 play mobile games by using its touchscreen as smooth as iPad?

[@UNreaped]

you didn't talk about the microphones. surface sounds a bit closer your normal microphone

[@Thetechchap]

that's fair!

[@mrtyreus0]

For me: Apple M2 MacBook Air and a Microsoft Surface Pro 9 LTE. Both run full desktop OS, best of all worlds.

[@donaldfoster5998]

I have both and the surface is a much better choice overall and I use it much more

[@VinothKumar-hh3nb]

Am a digital artist can I use surface Pro for art

[@SamtheCanuck]

Went with the M1 Pro 11 inch 2TB as I got it for $800 new a couple weeks ago.

[@PugsleyFarina]

I'll be taking a design class and was told we need a gaming computer for Illustrator and Photoshop. Do I really need a gaming computer or can I get the Surface Pro 9? Or the Surface Studio?

[@jackc3205]

Being a working guy it has to be the windows machine. The work world (non graphics anyway) is all MS based. And while you can get MS software for the Mac is just easier on windows. Plus the comes with, email and calendar on windows, works with my companies security policies seamlessly. So I don't need to buy outlook. But if I wasn't working I'd be a harder choice between the two.

[@official_thetech1onnicegram]

get in touch to acknowledge your prizes..

[@f1amesoff]

2:58 It's actually desciption of Surface Pro, no?

[@johnmartin8481]

Happy Holidays! Another high-quality review, thank you. To my way of thinking it really does come to what applications the user needs and preference for brand or operating system they favor. If you want to stay in the Apple ecosystem and the Apple App Store meets your needs, then the Apple iPad Pro offers a very good solution. I am an owner of the Microsoft Surface Pro and to be honest I never considered the Apple iPad Pro as a comparative product to consider. The Windows desktop on the Microsoft Surface Pro offers so many advantages, from apps, to peripherals to accessories and product design over the Apple iPad or Samsung Galaxy Tab S tablet for that matter. In my experience I do prefer the Apple iPad or Samsung Tab S if I use it for tablet functions exclusively. The Apple iPad Pro or Samsung Galaxy T S is a better tablet experience in my view. And in my case, I selected the Samsung Galaxy Tab S tablet for my exclusive tablet needs. But when it comes to full desktop applications, functionality and flexibility the Microsoft Surface Pro is far superior. Simply said, anything I can perform with a current Windows PC and tablet capabilities, I can perform with the Microsoft Surface Pro 9 and that cannot be said for the Apple iPad Pro. The other key advantage is when I travel and want to keep it light, I only take one device for computing and entertainment. The Microsoft Surface Pro 9 becomes the perfect solution for both Windows PC and Tablet functions. I do believe Apple should create an Apple MacBook model that offers the functionality of the iPad, touch and pen support as an Ultra designation for 13 and 15-inch models. They could be priced at a premium, the same or higher as the combined price of an iPad Pro and MacBook Pro. I would suspect there will be a limited number of Apple customers wanting to pay such a premium price, but it would offer them the choice. This option would bring the Apple product line into the 21st century of computing capabilities that they are lacking today. I will not hold my breather so to speak, on Apple to announce such products. Time will tell.

[@sjm6686]

As a software developer I won't buy either, I would rather go for a laptop. If I was to choose between any Ipad or mac vs surface pro, I would choose surface.

[@badrishmaskara4692]

Do we get subscription for Microsoft office with surface pro 9 ?

[@tonyejunior6269]

And it is very delightful to see a video comparison between the I Pad pro 12.9{4th gen}and the Microsoft surface pro 9

[@alikhuramijaz]

Bruh 6:30 my heart stopped when you almost dropped the ipad

[@goclip9381]

Help me to choose one for the best note taking experience: I am trying to buy a tablet for digital note-taking. I am a Physics student so, I will be writing a lot of mathematical equations and physics derivations since I will be using it mostly (90%) in writing. That is why I need a tablet that has the best writing experience. All the other features are secondary to me and my 1st priority is with writing experience. I am so confused at the moment.

[@Vardges16]

it is always about practical use vs show off :)

[@domo3858]

Also most useful apps are locked behind a pay wall on the ipad which is the same for windows BUT there are options for windows. This will be a major deciding factor tbh.

[@harrison00xXx]

nonsense. At least for studying im fine with notability (free) and the rest is onboard anyways or supplied via our student accounts (office 365, cloud storage,..) In fact the iPad has even some advantages regarding to mobile apps you dont have native access to on Windows. Play COD:M on an emulator on PC and with mouse (or just gamepad…) and you get banned, play COD:M on the iPad with gamepad or not and everything is fine…

[@patrickzanesco8509]

Love the content, hat about vs galaxy book pro 360?

[@evideos8847]

Which one to buy for photo editing in photoshop?

[@TuFacez]

I felt as though the SP webcam looked way better in the YT video playback.

[@michaelbaja1854]

I have a surface for a few years now...quality is not great. First the key board stopped working. Now my touch screen has issues where sections stopped working. Battery as been degrading too. Don't abuse it at all. Very disappointing in my point of view.

[@leehilborn8118]

reviews of these are really only valid when reviewed by professional artists