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Dicy2 by Jérôme Nika, Augustin Muller, and Joakim Borg. Dicy2 is both a package for Max and a plugin for Ableton Live by Ircam's Musical Representations team. Contributions, tutorial patchers, documentation, and tutorial videos by Matthew Ostrowski. Max for Live plugin by Manuel Poletti. Developed in the framework of the projects ANR-DYCI2, ANR-MERCI, ERC-REACH directed by Gérard Assayag, and the UPI-CompAI Ircam project.
The audio use cases have been designed and developed with Diemo Schwarz and Riccardo Borghesi, and use the MuBu and CatArt environments of the ISMM team of Ircam. Contributions / thanks: Serge Lemouton, Jean Bresson, Thibaut Carpentier, Georges Bloch, Mikhaïl Malt, Axel Chemla-Romeu-Santos, Tristan Carsault, Vincent Cusson, Tommy Davis, Dionysios Papanicolaou, Greg Beller, Markus Noisternig.

[@jrettetsohyt1]

Wonderfully clear and without wasted time. Thanks!

[@matthewjackson8709]

Would have been nice to show some brief examples at the very beginning. I had to fast forward to 25:00 just to try and hear what this does and then the examples were so quiet so still have little idea but the idea seems interesting if it's what I think it is but there wasn't a quick way just to hear clear examples.

[@TemmeSikkema]

Really cool concept. It’s a shame the actual audio in this video is nearly inaudible. IRCAM, I THINK I like your stuff but basically almost ALL of your videos are extremely well researched academically sound LONG essays and tutorials, with little to no attention paid to actual audible examples. Basically the only exception to this observation is the video about the Virtual Choir. It is extremely frustrating to watch these otherwise rather brilliant videos. Why not make some additional actual demonstrations with GOOD audio? ❤

[@jeromenika]

Thank you for your message: the sound in the first part of the video actually focuses on the voice to best explain all those complicated concepts. In the last sequence of the video starting at 26:24, we listen again to all the examples one by one with a louder sound in the light of what we have just learned. I hope you will find what you are looking for in this last sequence!

[@TemmeSikkema]

@@jeromenika You are absolutely right. Thanks for pointing me to these examples. I am thoroughly impressed by Dicy2 but as witnessed by my earlier comment couldn’t quite grasp it which coloured my language a bit there. Sheer frustration was shining true, but I should have been more patient. Thank you for making these elaborate videos and also for bearing with me. Apologies if I came across as a jerk - that wasn’t my intention. Now… one brief question remains: is there anything keeping you or IRCAM from creating a Windows version of this? I came THIS close to subscribing to the paid IRCAM Forum tier just to get my hands on this, but noticed there’s a MACOS restriction. Couldn’t you compile a WIN version, seeing this was made with Cycling ‘74 MAX / MSP? Anyway, again - many thanks. Very inspiring and innovative approach! My compliments! Any links to some compositions / albums that were made using Dicy2?

[@TemmeSikkema]

@@jeromenika Amazing examples! Seems like a paradigm shifting compositional piece of kit!

[@jeromenika]

The complete playlist of tutorials for Dicy2 generative musical agents for Max and Live is here: kzbin.info/aero/PL-C_JLZNFAGco5OO3loQkBRIiNrs0tCkt&feature=shared

[@gjb7966]

Jerom, I'm not able to get Dicy2 to run in my system (M1 Mac running on Monterey). The agent simply doesn't go online (the server device seems to work fine, tho). In the Max window within Ableton Live, I see this error in the console: "DICY2-Agent.amxd • zl • bad arguments for message "mode". Any idea of how to fix this? Max and all used libraries are up to date; I have the latest version of everything.

[@jeromenika]

@@gjb7966 Hello, Thank you for your interest in Dicy2 ! We'd be grateful if you could post your question here discussion.forum.ircam.fr/c/dicy2/dicy2-for-max/1027 so that other people with similar problems can benefit from the answer. Best, Jérôme

[@Myrheii]

bla bla and no audible audio ... so far away from musicians !

[@jeromenika]

Thank you for your message: the sound in the first part of the video actually focuses on the voice to best explain all those complicated concepts. In the last sequence of the video starting at 26:24, we listen again to all the examples one by one with a louder sound in the light of what we have just learned. I hope you will find what you are looking for in this last sequence! Finally, you can find here some examples of artistic productions using Dicy2 : kzbin.info/aero/PL-C_JLZNFAGfGwtMPrRz9gOD3LnAMnHkO

[@alessandroratoci3089]

that's IRCAM, baby, you can still listen the Splice tutorials about the latest TR-909 sounds :D