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@endreasb9368Ай бұрын
Great video! I always play the iron cross with equal bets on pass and don’t pass to cover the 568 field, that way I can collect winnings and not worry about losing or winning on a point being hit or crapping out.
@guardianking92099 ай бұрын
You’ll find that picking up the 9&10 after leveling up 5/6/8 past $100 and collecting a few times will improve your profit much quicker and safer. There are times that 6/8 just don’t appear often.
@DiceOutChannel9 ай бұрын
Good idea!
@macdaddy13329 ай бұрын
I must say this is a very thought out Good Version of Iron Cross Play ! I have played the IC many different ways. Cant believe I didn't figure this out myself. Thanks bro !
@DiceOutChannel9 ай бұрын
Thanks Macdaddy! I have another version coming out in a few days as well. I spent a couple of months perfecting it, and I'm pretty excited to bring that out also.
@macdaddy13329 ай бұрын
I am looking forward to seeing it but I really don't think you can get much better at staying caught up with vig in the extended term. This is the best I've seen.
@xXSuDDsMcDuFFXx10 ай бұрын
Forgot to take down your field bet for that long run of 6 & 8 around the middle of the session. Total winnings about 100 - 200 less. Overall great strategy, will try this out on the virtual machines that love to roll 7s lol!
@DiceOutChannel10 ай бұрын
Ah, you're right! The total would be about 125 less, so up $354 for the session.
@Tripperdey9 ай бұрын
Thank you, Sir! I'm getting ready to retire in 6 months and my goal is to cruise for comps/free cruises till I croak! I am so grateful I can add this to my arsenal of strategies!
@DiceOutChannel9 ай бұрын
Nice! That's awesome! Win goals are everything, and then you can eat all you want on the cruise the rest of the day. :)
@drgarycarr9 ай бұрын
Hi, Thanks for the strategy - Unless I was missing something - around the 10min mark you were hitting 6's & 8's - You kept paying yourself, but you weren't removing the green chip from the field
@DiceOutChannel9 ай бұрын
Yep! That was a mistake and adjusts my win amount down by 125. So the win total for the session is around $354.
@donaldlewis76959 ай бұрын
A quick question Normally place bets are off on the come out the four come out sevens should have paid because of the lay bet with no risk to the place bets?
@DiceOutChannel9 ай бұрын
You can play it this way. The reason I don't is that the place bets hitting help me recover from the 4 losing more quickly and churn out profit, so I can reset the 4 if I want to and not get to the higher levels on it. I wouldn't have a problem if someone wanted to turn the place bets off and get full benefit from the no-4 paying on the come out 7, though!
@stevenwarmuth37226 ай бұрын
Just so you know Between all the vigs you didn't pay... The money you stile from the casino And the profits you gave back to the casino(you won 300 on a lay 4 but Gabe it to the bank instead of your bankroll) your final tally is off 75
@waylonswaycraps10 ай бұрын
Nice little strategy! Id switch the lay between the 4&10 if it weree! Just to keep a string of 4s from coming! Enjoyed watching brother
@DiceOutChannel10 ай бұрын
I thought about this, but there's a reason you see eight 4s before a 7 so much less than three 4s. But you'll see three 4s and three 10s before the 7 about the same % of the time. My thinking is that you catch six 4s before a 7 a lower amount of times than you catch three 4s and three 10s before a 7.
@guardianking92099 ай бұрын
That’s a valid alternative but you just don’t know what the dice will do.
@Tripperdey9 ай бұрын
Should we really keep the bets on during each come-out? If you have big bets and a 7 rolls, the bets would lose more than what you get back from the Lay bet It seems safer to pull the Lay and turn your bets off and put the Lay back after the point is established again. During my thousands of practice Crapsee hands, 7's can come in droves before the come-out.
@DiceOutChannel9 ай бұрын
You could do that. The intuition, though, is two-fold: 1) You actually win and lose $0 if the 7 rolls, though you would lose the amount you've built. 2) You won't be able to recover your 4s at a sustainable rate. The no-4s paying you back 50% of the winnings on a 7 are how you recover from the 4s, and the field bets hitting are how you make the majority of your money.
@Tripperdey9 ай бұрын
@@DiceOutChannel Ok, thanks!!
@Tripperdey9 ай бұрын
@DiceOutChannel If I wanted to scale this down to $5 tables, I suppose the 4 Lay bet increments would be $40 with $5 each on the Iron Cross and Field bets? Or might bringing it up to $10 bets with $80 Lay increments be smarter or more profitable than $5 bets? During my 1st practice round on the 7th shooter, my 4 got hit so many times before I could recoup its losses that it's now a $1000 Lay bet. I'm not sure if my cruise even allows that much in bets.
@nicklazzaro50558 ай бұрын
man.... if 1st grade division is hard for you, you probably shouldnt gamble. If this is a $25 version.... and 5 is 1/5 of 25 just divide every bet by 5 and thats the bet. So if the lay bet is 200 on this table.... 200/5= 40.... $40 is the bet on a $5 table. If the numbers are 25 on this table... 25/5= 5... 5 bucks is your bet on the 5 dollar table.@@Tripperdey
@marcusgoll7 ай бұрын
What if you hopped the 4 to protect the $200? Only 2 hop bets needed and the 2 2s pays 30 to 1. Even if it is not covering the whole $200 it should allow to recover from multiple 4s for a shooter.
@DiceOutChannel7 ай бұрын
I would only consider this after the 6 and 8 were built up above the base level, and even then you'd have to forego profit. For every one 4, there are on average two 7s. That is the only requirement needed for the no-4 to make it's way back down. I'd endorse a variation that hops the 4s, but in my experience it diminishes profitability more than letting the 4 stay free and making it back over time.
@arlenestanton99559 ай бұрын
Black is very standard for $100
@DiceOutChannel9 ай бұрын
It is. Just because of my chips, I sometimes use blue and sometimes use black.
@lifepro7777710 ай бұрын
Quick side note for the record; if you actually found a way or created a system to beat ANY game I'd strongly suggest keeping that to yourself considering it to be far more valuable than youtube monetization.
@DiceOutChannel10 ай бұрын
Good point. There are many ways to play the game, and this is one of them. I believe someone can make good money from this, and the casino still won't outlaw it or rule it out. So all parties will win. I'm all for everybody winning. Cheers to you!
@drdontpassone81648 ай бұрын
dice out is the man........................whats you fav strat 15 table 500 br
@DiceOutChannel8 ай бұрын
Thanks! I'll have to think about that. I like having enough for 30x my average bet, and $15 * 30 = $450. So I would be inclined to not play on a $15 table with $500. If I were to, it would feel too much like gambling to me. If I had to- Maybe place 6/8 with 5s hop and a field while loading the DC for like 2 numbers? I don't know. Just the initial layout would be $68, which is 8 shooters. I'll have to think about this more.