The problem won't be the 20 limit itself, but the fact that very few people will follow it. Meaning the combination of 1/2 people doing 20 and a dozen or so doing 30 will create problems. Hell, people barely do 30 in 30s.
@Gazzxy Жыл бұрын
@Nock set mine to 32... but I know my car is 2mph out... usually verry slowly catch up to people
@leifcian4288 Жыл бұрын
The thing is the lower you set the limit, the lower rate of compliance you will get. If you set the limit at 500mph you would get 100% compliance, that's not exactly the point... It's hardly going to "increase" the average speed people will be doing, additionally it should give certain people who would prefer a calmer pace the confidence to drive slower without succumbing to frustrated pressurising of other drivers.
@derekheeps1244 Жыл бұрын
@@leifcian4288 There was a time when speed limits were set according to the percentile of road users who drove at that speed . It was always taught at Police College that people simply will not obey unrealistic speed limits . Politicians who try to impose them without heeding professional advice ought to be voted out of office ; this has recently happened in Brighton , where the Green party were voted out after imposing many unpopular measures . I predict the same in the London area .
@leifcian4288 Жыл бұрын
@@derekheeps1244 Except many individuals would adhere to speed limits set for a reason and might prefer not to feel obligated or stressed and pressured by the impatience of certain other individuals. If the average citizen had recourse to action bad behaviour of drivers where it is adversely affecting their quality of life, rather than only police having recourse to action offending behaviour, then poorly behaving motorists would have more cause to improve their behaviour where it would otherwise be lightly to affect others adversely. Take a liberty here and there where nobody is lightly to notice or care then no issue, cause noise pollution and drive belligerently where people are lightly to be affected in their day then one's licence should be actioned. People would adhere to more reasonable behaviour if they would otherwise be denied sale of fuel, simple. A very simple action to manage traffic behaviour, the police need not be involved in the first instance of enforcement, minor issues only need to be licensing issues in the first instance not criminal issues.
@ajuk1 Жыл бұрын
@@leifcian4288 It doesn't make much difference to actual traffic speeds. Look at the Stongtowns video on the 85th percentile speed as to why.
@AbeMyatt Жыл бұрын
I'm sure it's the same for many people across the UK, but in South Wales there has been lots of changes to speed limits on roads in the area which feel very unnecessary. Parts of the M4 randomly being changed to 50mph, roads which were previously national/60mph roads being reduced to 40mph, etc. It really feels like there is a huge push to make driving as unpleasant as possible.
@mgw2024 Жыл бұрын
bingo
@derekheeps1244 Жыл бұрын
To reduce formerly NSL roads to lower limits there needs to be an analysis of serious incidents and KSI statistics before it can be permitted - at least that is the situation here in Scotland , but we do have the superior legal system .
@gethinjones187 Жыл бұрын
It’s all about Revenue,Drakeford wasted £144 million on the M4 road,him and his cronies are not competent at their jobs
@david-ky7rt11 ай бұрын
I will make sure I don't go down to Wales.
@FarmerGwyn11 ай бұрын
@@david-ky7rt Good
@ahdhudbbh Жыл бұрын
The 20mph speed limit will make little to no difference to the actual speeds that people drive. The Police will rarely have the resources to enforce it. It's just a silly PR stunt.
@Wpar Жыл бұрын
it will only affect blackbox users and if theres speed cameras really, still absolutely shit tho
@zouzou_u Жыл бұрын
The police barely drive at the speed limits when they're out on patrol.
@daveking777 Жыл бұрын
New cameras are being fitted every day
@Wpar Жыл бұрын
@@daveking777 yeah, its not for safety its just for money
@iamjimfan Жыл бұрын
I agree. Might be it affects candidates taking exams more.
@davdroman Жыл бұрын
I just passed my test first time with 3 minors. Your mock test videos helped me figure out common mistakes and form good habits (e.g. checking mirrors). Thanks a ton!
@ConquerDriving Жыл бұрын
That's great to hear! Thank you for watching and congratulations on passing!
@OscarOSullivan10 ай бұрын
@@ConquerDrivingA lot of people are making a big fuss out of nothing 32 km/h is more than enough for a built up area. Here in Ireland Urban areas are 30km/h.
@ben.taylor Жыл бұрын
You can't just change the speed limit and expect people to follow it. You have to change the design of the street to make drivers feel less comfortable at higher speeds. Think of it this way. Imagine driving at 40mph down a busy high street, lots of parked cars and narrow lanes. Sounds scary, right? Now imagine going 40mph on a motorway. See where I'm getting at?
@michaeldono1741 Жыл бұрын
It's easier to change the default in urban areas than it is to redo the entire road layout. Making lanes more narrow, putting in protected cycle paths and raised pedestrian crossings at junctions has to be a rolling programme. I would actually agree with the broad consensus in the comments here that a default of 20 is bad - albeit because I'd rather they put up 20 signs in areas which WILL receive work to make them pedestrian first, and drivers will feel a lot more guilty driving in an explicit 20 zone than an implicit one.
@bradleystannard7875 Жыл бұрын
> Now imagine going 40mph on a motorway *Smart motorway wants to know your location*
@ben.taylor Жыл бұрын
@@bradleystannard7875 Driving at 40mph on a smart motorway is still frustrating though, even if it is the speed limit they've posted. It's because of the *Design of the road*
@bradleystannard7875 Жыл бұрын
@@ben.taylor I agree 100%, as you said hammering down a single lane road with cars either side at 40 vs a 3 lane road. I am going to cross my fingers and do something I never do, and put faith in local gov, that eventually they will make it either a shared space, or change how the road functions.
@Gazzxy Жыл бұрын
its a sound theory.. but assumes people follow normal logic or poses at least 2 braincells (1 to drive 2nd for self preservation).
@aoxVGC Жыл бұрын
Probably worth noting 20 is right between 2nd and 3rd gear for a lot of cars meaning depending on the gradiant if there is any gradual up or downhill it means constantly changing up and down gear causing excessive wear to the clutch ane gearbox. With the exception of town centres and condensed areas such as around schools there is no reason for a 20 limit
@Agu_Ra Жыл бұрын
And staying in 3rd gear is kinda cleaner, lower revs = less emissions.
@micheals1992 Жыл бұрын
@@Agu_Ra I can imagine most people will drive around in 2nd gear though. Personally I shift into 4th at 20mph as my cars at 1,200rpm and gets 95mpg. At 30mph in 5th at around the same rpm my car gets 110mpg. I only downshift at these speeds if I'm climbing a hill or need extra power.
@leifcian4288 Жыл бұрын
Different vehicles gear differently. Also engine increments are mechanically tuned to the speed increments of the region they will be sold. The gearing can be adjusted to behave somewhat differently at different speeds. Just like on a bike you can put different size front or rear chainrings on for different ratios/ranges, depending on your desired use case. I suspect its probably not that difficult to adjust the gearing behaviour of most vehicles as components are produced to scale for sale in different regions both mph/kph.
@tomboi123live Жыл бұрын
Literally, our 2008 transit connect doesn’t like being stuck at 20 constantly having to change through the gears just to keep revs low
@JOker-iz9nk Жыл бұрын
@@micheals1992 That's awesome, what car have you got?
@jonathanbrockway5861 Жыл бұрын
Oh Richard don't get me started on this one; me and my fellow ADIs aren't happy about this one for so so many reasons. You should have visited Cardiff Driving Test Centre to see what the consensus is there!😅😂 Interesting to hear that you find driving around Cardiff challenging due to poor road markings and the like; we spend a lot of our time complaining about the same thing!
@CorporateZombi Жыл бұрын
That is a government problem, not a speed limit problem.
@justmytake4152 Жыл бұрын
Yet instead of dealing with poor road signage/marking and unclear road layout especially bus lanes that appear out of no where around the next corner with a bus lane camera they waste £1s millions on this 20 mph madness instead of making sure people unfamiliar with the road don't have to make sudden last minute changes.
@TimHall42 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely true, Jonathan. I’m loving being overtaken dangerously just about every day on lessons 🙄. Apart from the hassle whilst teaching (and the poorly sited and sometimes just plain wrong signs and markings), there will be a knock effect for deliveries etc as they will now take significantly longer and therefore costs will increase. At least the blatantly wrong 30 signs at the bottom of Celyn Avenue have disappeared. You could see 20 repeaters in every single off that roundabout 🤬.
@Jesst102 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I just wanted to let you know I passed my test today and I couldn’t have done it without your videos!! Thank you so much for what you’re doing❤️
@InkubusAE86 Жыл бұрын
Heard that 20mph is actually more dangerous than faster speeds because it causes some people to pay less attention to the road and more attention to the speedometer.
@badatosu5781 Жыл бұрын
Very true, two 20 roads in my area have been installed right outside my estate and it’s difficult trying to stay under 20, especially as most people are still going 30 or at least 25 on it
@beanburger5689 Жыл бұрын
Could you link the study?
@fluffy3953 Жыл бұрын
agreed, even in 30 zones that are plastered with cameras/average speed zones i end up paying more attention to my speedometer to make sure i dont edge over and get a fine than the actual road, which can be hazardous as its often in these areas which are the most hectic with lots of hazards.
@user-mv5zt8qd9l Жыл бұрын
@@fluffy3953 it's a bit worrying that you openly admit to struggling to maintain a steady speed of 30 while driving without being distracted from the road ahead. Not all speed cameras are flagrantly visible, and temporary speed checks do exist.
@themorphman100 Жыл бұрын
@@fluffy3953 Yeah it is ridiculous and nothing but a money making scheme. I drive a strech regular that is literally plastered with cameras. The old ones, new yellow ones, (fake) Police vans you name it. Absolutly no need for the road to be a 30 in the first place it looks and feels like at the least it should be a 40. No schools about, straight roads which you could easily do 50+ safe on, but no it has to be 30. You are constantly looking at the speedo to make sure you sit on 30 at the most. I know majority of speedos are under but not a chance am I risking the needle going over so most people will really be doing around 26-7. Nothing but a big scam.
@owenwhitefoot Жыл бұрын
I feel like a limit of say 25 would be better. For most cars and drivers, 20 is a very unnatural speed to keep, you're often a bit too fast for second but a bit too slow for third, meaning it needs more concentration than 30. 25 allows you to keep comfortably in third whilst also being slower, leaving room for dangers and such.
@leifcian4288 Жыл бұрын
I agree, there's a very big difference between 20 and 30 really.
@Tacticalpanic Жыл бұрын
Yeah my car really wants to change to 3rd at 20 , but in 3rd it’s hard to keep the car at 20 , it wants to go faster.
@ethelmini11 ай бұрын
I know it feels like around a third. 20 feels pretty fast on a push bike, perception is based on experience - 30 feels incredibly slow too: when you exit a motorway after a hundred miles. @@leifcian4288
@leifcian428811 ай бұрын
@@imarocketman90 Yeah could just have high speed rail going down every residential street instead and no cars or roads then, couldn't we plankmin. How fast did urban street trams use to go eh? You know back when every large Western city had them?
@OscarOSullivan10 ай бұрын
@@imarocketman90The problem is with what happens if a car or other tin can strikes a pedestrian, cyclist or motor biker
@deewat961811 ай бұрын
As Cardiff is my home city, I was familiar with the roads you used and know which lanes to use etc. But even though I've been driving 50 years i still get confused/get it wrong if driving in an unfamiliar place. It therefore encouraged me to know that an able and professional driver like yourself can also sometimes get it wrong in unfamiliar territory. Thanks for your excellent videos!
@wlwww16 Жыл бұрын
Haha, that blue BMW around 4:10 has caught me out plenty before, thinking it was someone trying to leave rather than parked up. The 20mph speed limits are ridiculous in the vast majority of circumstances, and I believe they tie into the Welsh government's greater plan to make driving less and less desirable to make people take public transport instead. I am not a fan, to put it lightly.
@joso7228 Жыл бұрын
Why would you switch to Public Transport which is 20 mph plus Stops.
@wlwww16 Жыл бұрын
@@joso7228 I'm not in favour of it, I'm just saying that is the Welsh government's plan for transport. Make driving less convenient and more annoying by shrinking road space for cycle lanes, charging congestion fees, introducing low-emission zones, and introducing 20mph everywhere, forcing people to take public transport.
@pmrose1811 ай бұрын
Yeah rurual Wales has such an advanced pubic transport system ( sarcasm off)
@britishtransportphotos Жыл бұрын
Being from wales, I can safely say it’s a pain in the a**e and councils are changing roads which do not need to be 20, it’s just to wind us all up really! Try driving through Abergavenny on a Tuesday when the market is on, it’s frankly frustrating to drive through.
@broshmosh Жыл бұрын
Are you sggesting you'd drive at 30 through Abergavenny when the market is on?
@joee374 Жыл бұрын
Im from Cardiff, I found that it actually brings the speed alot of people do closer to 30mph. The same people that would speed 40+ in a 30 would now be doing 30 in a 20
@broshmosh Жыл бұрын
At least they'll be speeding at 30 instead of 40 then...
@Gazzxy Жыл бұрын
would the people speed at 40+ really give a crap what the speed limit is.... id suspect they will still be doing far too much in excess
@leifcian4288 Жыл бұрын
@@Gazzxy They're still lightly to be driving lower pace than they otherwise would have been which is kind of the point.
@ethelmini11 ай бұрын
They would be going double the amount faster than the traffic so they'd be, and feel, more conspicuous. They'd also be risking a ban, not just a fine.@@Gazzxy
@andrewhubbard404411 ай бұрын
VOTE FOR REFORM UK IF YOU WANT CHANGE IN THE UK DOWN with the TORIES and LABOUR
@Nathan-cg2sq Жыл бұрын
I actually believe that this could be even more unsafe. Many will not follow it, and as such those who are sticking to it may be overtaken (possibly unsafely) which could cause more accidents.
@PeaceDweller Жыл бұрын
If you do 20 MPH especially in the evening, expect to be tailgated relentlessly by a litany of tinted out BMWS, Audis and Mercedes on their way to the local Fried Chicken shop.
@leifcian4288 Жыл бұрын
I don't believe the kind of thing you describe would realistically cause overall safety to be worse. In fact it would just make it easier to distinguish worse offending drivers for penalty.
@JackFate76 Жыл бұрын
This is a very un-smart argument.
@Nathan-cg2sq Жыл бұрын
@@JackFate76 it’s the realistic argument. Many drivers (of course incorrectly) may not stick to the speed limit if they themselves deem it too slow and so unsafe overtakes may occur. Only way I can see this issue being avoided is speed cameras but they are expensive.
@JackFate76 Жыл бұрын
@@Nathan-cg2sq Even if this happens (which it will not because people will get used to the new limit and a couple of checkpoints here and there will do wonders) it will be more safe than now.
@gavinreid274111 ай бұрын
In a village near me the max speed has been reduced from 30 to 20. I was talking to a pensioner about how everyone still seemed to drive at 30mph. He insisted that the 20mph limit was not actually a maximum speed limit but only advice. He insisted that no one could actually be expected to drive so slowly. The 20 limit passes a children's park , shops and a school.
@ynotnilknarf3911 ай бұрын
From an era of drink driving and driving with bald tyres being acceptable, speed limits on motorways were only introduced in 1965. A lot of pensioners are shocking drivers, I get close passed on the bike a lot b older drivers and the genuinely think that its safe because they didn't hit me!
@leifcian428811 ай бұрын
@@ynotnilknarf39 tbh I often struggle to respect today's pensioners the same as I respected my grandparents generation, which I really miss now. They remembered growing up during the war and all the rationing/rebuilding in the years after, my granddad cycled to work throughout his 20s and generally there would be no expectation to own a car until more settled in life a bit older. Pensioners these days, perhaps they generally had cars since they were teenagers or relatively young, relatively cheaply to run ect. Then that's how it's been for a lot of people every generation since, people don't know any different can't be bothered to ride a bike some of the time and basically never even learnt to like "properly." How can you trust people with cars when they couldn't even keep a bike running well? Not the slightest understanding of the most basic mechanics yet use up a bunch of cars throughout their lives. Waste a bunch of fuel with poor driving habits but it never mattered because fuel was always too cheap to worry about it much.
@OscarOSullivan10 ай бұрын
@@leifcian4288The pre 1945 to 1963 generations are decent
@zoezebra4013 Жыл бұрын
When doing the survey, did you ask if they were drivers or pedestrians or cyclists? I think this could've been the most interesting to see how voices split across those groups
@hjwatso1 Жыл бұрын
What happens if you are all of them? :D
@robi438711 ай бұрын
“There is not enough evidence to conclude that there has been a significant change in collisions and casualties following the introduction of 20mph limits in residential areas” Atkins AECOM and Professor Mike Maher (UCL) were commissioned by the Department of Transport in 2014 to address the gap in evidence available on the effectiveness of 20mph speed limit (signed only) schemes. Twelve case study schemes were studied, from a variety of area types, road types and scale. Published 22 November 2018 Last updated 11 March 2019
@martuhurley9 ай бұрын
Great to watch you tackle Cardiff. I been watching your videos for a while and live in Cardiff. Pays off to know the lanes more than I realise
@davidevans32274 ай бұрын
am from cardiff too 🙂 thankfully i didn't learn to drive here but in a much smaller town.. it's so busy!!
@gonzaloleviatanh Жыл бұрын
It isn’t all London but the 30 mph limit is dropping to 20 in many places. Can be confusing if you don’t know the area. Also there are to many place with driving restrictions and slow measures (hums and road narrowing). I don’t mind the speed limit but sometimes is irritating to drive in London.
@SingleTheShot Жыл бұрын
Think there's a plan to make london all 20s
@evehosgood Жыл бұрын
I literally just changed my driving test today from September 21st to the week before on the 14th because of this, I will deal with the 20 after my test, it is ridiculously slow for roads like this though and I have had abuse as a learner for sticking to it, depends on time of day I think and who is on the road. I’m just down the road from Cardiff in Barry, I would have happily been on camera 👍
@AbeMyatt Жыл бұрын
Good luck with your test :)
@evehosgood Жыл бұрын
@@AbeMyatt Thank you! 😊
@yungthug2403 Жыл бұрын
I’d have stuck with that later date tbh, you’d have a lot less to do and tbh, it’s much easier to drive slower, it’s frustrating when you driving just on your own normally but for a test it’s easy, much easier to make less mistakes going that slow more time to take in the road ahead signs etc and many roundabouts you have to drop to 2nd gear anyway, I’d have stuck with that later date, I just don’t understand though tbh, does this mean that no roads are gonna be 30mph? If normal street light roads are 20 now what roads are gonna be 30? Will it just be 20 then straight onto 40 when the speed increases or will they add 30s where the 40s were
@evehosgood Жыл бұрын
@@yungthug2403 thing is I know what streets are 30 and what ones are currently 20 in my area along the test route, it would possibly just be another reason to fail if I accidentally did 30 along a road that’s only just changed to 20 like 4 days before.
@michaelthomas3646 Жыл бұрын
@@yungthug2403 the plan is for everything that is 30 mph to be dropped to 20 mph, unless stated otherwise, including places that don't have any houses (woodland) because there is a mental hospital in 3/4's of a mile along the one road I know about my local council asking if people want it to remain 30, but chances are it is a farse, and they will just reduce the speed limit anyway.
@jagjotsingh8034 Жыл бұрын
Passed today in first go. Your videos are very helpful and informative. Examiners are very nice. Keep checking mirrors and blind spots and you will get it✌🏻😊
@abhijitdeshpande7762 Жыл бұрын
I have passed my driving test today and I would like to thank you for your videos as I am watching these frequently and they are really informative for new drivers ❤. You are very good instructor.
@ConquerDriving Жыл бұрын
That's great to hear! Thank you for watching and congratulations on passing!
@noahroth299211 ай бұрын
In theory, this is a good idea because slower speed limits are much better for people walking and biking, and you want those people to do their thing so there's less traffic. They really should redesign the roads though, it needs to feel like a 20mph road more than just adding a new sign.
@wellwhatthen1010111 ай бұрын
What a stupid statement people are breaking the law if they walk on the road twit that's what the pavement is for FOOL
@wainber17 ай бұрын
I’ve driven on roads where I felt the speed limit was too low whilst on others I have driven at a speed limit that is below what that speed limit should be.
@AlanSmith-xu3lo4 ай бұрын
But it’s a buger when people on bikes are overtaking you
@noahroth29924 ай бұрын
@@AlanSmith-xu3lo Why, because your so ego-centric that people overtaking you are an insult? You probably get mad when a pedestrian on the sidewalk walks past while your stopped at a red light because they overtook you. It doesn't fricking matter. If it bugs you so much, get on a bike and overtake some cars too.
@BallTickler420 Жыл бұрын
We have had this kind of "30km/hization" in Germany for a few years now and I can't tell you enough how much I hate it. It takes so much longer to get somewhere, uses more fuel in most cars and most of the times is placed in completely unnecessary places. Before they started putting them literally everywhere, we had 30kmh (which is about 20mph) zones in smaller roads in residential areas, which made sense because of children playing there etc, nowadays they put them EVERYWHERE, just half a year ago they put them along the whole main road of my city, it's wide roads with fences and not a small residential area, it just slows everything down and annoys every driver around.
@rga7482 Жыл бұрын
You're right mate and very interesting there is no speed limit an motorway/highway in Germany.
@BallTickler420 Жыл бұрын
@@rga7482 well, not completely true. Most of the parts have no speed limit, only a "recommended speed" of 130, but some parts do have a 120 kmph limit. But who knows how long the speed limit free parts will remain, with our incompetent politicians of the green party at the lead it's probably gonna be gone sooner than later. Especially with some idiots glueing themselves on the road to save the climate, this country truly goes down the shitter.
@Luis-cr1tw Жыл бұрын
Man, i can tell you, probably the mentality is different in our countries, in Portugal i never go 30 km/h in a 30, i normally go 50/55 km/h (or more) but of course i know when i need to go slower, but i see many people don't.
@broshmosh Жыл бұрын
@@Luis-cr1tw This sounds beyond dangerous, but okay.
@8daudiomaster962 Жыл бұрын
@@broshmosh50km is 30mph
@leotaylor262 Жыл бұрын
I'm from Cardiff, and I must say , it's been 20mph in most streets for a while now. It just seems now they're finally standardising it . And there even making some dual carriageways 40mph instead of 50mph. And I'd also just like to thank m you for helping me pass my driving test in December 2022 ,you really helped me fill all my knowledge gaps. Back on topic, during my driving test, I only got to 30mph once for about 1 minute, honestly doesn't surprise me that they're making this the law now . (Just realised you took my driving test route👍)
@joshfoster978511 ай бұрын
This is because you are new on the road and in a urban area
@bootmii98Ай бұрын
Maybe those dual carriageways have businesses and schools on them. Even 25 is not out of the question for divided highways through cities over here.
@ewan7283 Жыл бұрын
Love this style of video, also fun to see you driving on roads I recognise😂
@Plaxton220 Жыл бұрын
The issue with 20 limits is that the vast majority of drivers simply do not stick to them. Those that do stick to them then face abuse. I completely agree with your point about the constant increase in restrictions and rules. Unfortunately I fear that the authorities will solve the above issue by simply bringing in more cameras in 20 zones, probably fining far more safe drivers doing 26mph in the middle of the night than those who are actually dangerous.
@joso7228 Жыл бұрын
Its Too Slow! Obviously thats why people don't stick to them. Next year they will make people walk in front of our cars waving White Flags.
@leifcian4288 Жыл бұрын
Probably it would be better for speeds to go from 20/25/30mph because there's a very big difference between 20 and 30 really. In Kph country's that's basically what a 10kph increment is near enough, bit more.
@wumpty93 Жыл бұрын
Rip black box drivers, 20 limits are ridiculous. Just causes more dangerous overtakes by others.
@NateMorton404 Жыл бұрын
I already spend most of my time looking at the speedometer than focusing on the road with my black box, I'd rather take the hit for a higher insurance premium at this point.
@wumpty93 Жыл бұрын
Also, grade separated junction 20 mph??? 7:16
@wumpty93 Жыл бұрын
@@NateMorton404 My first year insurance was 2,000 with a black box and 3,700 without. Second year 1,400 with and 2,200 without. It was worth every penny extra to remove it
@captain-pasta Жыл бұрын
I had my driving lessons in Cardiff, along the roads you've driven. I received abuse and plenty of people over took me on the 20mph roads. I'm glad your experience was different.
@unconventionalideas5683 Жыл бұрын
One reason the mean speed dropped by only 3 mph could be because people were already driving more or less 20mph in the first place, and this is just institutionalizing existing practice.
@KindredBrujah Жыл бұрын
Indeed. There's no way you'd do 30 down some urban roads - just asking for someone to take your wing mirror off.
@justmytake4152 Жыл бұрын
Where I live you find roads wide enough for 1 vehicle with Victorian terraced housing with car parked on both side where people love to fling open car door and cross between parked cars especially with their small child in front of them were 15mph is too fast but if you put a 20 mph sign people will think that's a safe speed.
@BxnS Жыл бұрын
20 people want 20mph 30 people want 30mph Stats line up nicely 😂
@233kosta Жыл бұрын
All they're doing is devaluing the 20 limit. Currently those signs make it clear that there's mixed traffic which requires extra attention. Besides, signs don't slow you down, road design does. Just slapping signs and speed cameras willy-nilly will do precisely nothing to improve road safety. I'd say it'll probably be a deteiment more than anything.
@nssimpson Жыл бұрын
I wish they'd compromise on 25mph. In America that's a great speed for built-up areas.
@leifcian4288 Жыл бұрын
Motor bumble dums can't count in 5s unfortunately. Or that's what the traffic government concluded apparently.
@moeedali1449 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for all your help, your videos helped me pass 1st time with only 6 minors on Monday. My instructor lives for these moments and I'm sure you love hearing great news about those who benefited off of your videos :)
@ConquerDriving Жыл бұрын
That is great to hear! Congratulations on passing!
@fregus. Жыл бұрын
As a Cardiff resident, I think it's fine for Cardiff and Swansea, but for the rest of Wales it's silly. I'd be interested to know the statistics though - does it reduce pollution because of going slower, or increase it because of cars spending more time in the area?
@unconventionalideas5683 Жыл бұрын
It makes cycling and walking safer and more competitive, which is a way of reducing pollution...
@fregus. Жыл бұрын
@@unconventionalideas5683 An understandable point but not sure I agree. Personally I rarely drive around cardiff and instead walk, and have never felt unsafe while walking. I've never met anyone who feels unsafe walking around Cardiff due to the cars. And actually, I think the slow speed would encourage even more people to try to cross the road unsafely. There's one crossroad in particular going into the centre of Cardiff past Cathays that a huge amount of people dangerously cross. While yes, the slower speed would make it safer if they do cross in front, I also think it will lead to it happening more frequently - it may be one step forward and one step back. I honestly think it makes cycling more dangerous; it's much safer to overtake a cyclist than attempt to maintain a low speed behind them. You risk getting rear ended, and especially uphill you can be stuck in first gear which can be jerky and less safe (although I will accept that there's not much uphill in Cardiff).
@TheRealEnglishTeacher Жыл бұрын
@@unconventionalideas5683 Actually it increases the pollution specifically for public transport users. Buses and trucks with their large diesel engines will become less efficient, as they're in traffic longer, thus increasing pollution and also increasing travel times for passengers. Another point I'd like to mention is that it doesn't necessarily make walking safer. Pedestrians walk on the pavement, cars drive on the road. A collision would most likely occur when pedestrians and traffic mix (although they could also occur in other areas such as a driver mounting the pavement). These types of collisions are mainly caused by reckless driving, drunk drivers, and drugged drivers. Such drivers will remain a threat to the road and changing the speed limit does not correlate in anyway to counter such threats.
@joso7228 Жыл бұрын
More pedestrianized areas in Cardiff and Swansea centre would be fine (and that would help stop pollution) but we are talking about 20mph in all urban areas and that is ridiculous.
@AbeMyatt Жыл бұрын
As someone who drives around the area regularly, I think a lot of Swansea is safe at 30mph default. During busier times, it will naturally be 20mph or below, but I imagine driving around most of Swansea while it is quiet at a 20mph limit would feel really unnecessary.
@hrothgarpage11 ай бұрын
As an ADI I'd say that in my experience I find just as many people getting frustrated with my learners sticking to the speed limit at other speed limits as I do at the 20 mph one. When my learners are confident enough to handle it, I explain that it's just as risky driving too slowly as it is to drive too quickly because it encourages a significant minority of other drivers to behave badly (pulling out in front, cutting up and overtaking when it isn't safe . . . and the like). In the recent past I had a driver overtake one of my learners accross the wrong side of a mini roundabout!, and they passed two other cars on the approach to the roundabout too. Anyway my point is, that even though I don't personally agree with the plan to reduce default speed limits to 20 mph, I don't think it's going to make any significant difference to the impatience some drivers exhibit arround other drivers who want to obey speed limits. They'll behave that way whatever.
@theSTUNTHAMSTER11 ай бұрын
It doesn’t encourage anything. The overtaking drive is showing their contempt for their fellow road users and their selfishness.
@aleksei5172 Жыл бұрын
I think 20mph is fine as a default number as long as certain bigger and wider roads have explicit 30mph. Not like they did in Camden borough in London where every road had 20mph limit including wide "red route" roads.
@Poodz_ Жыл бұрын
This is what annoys me, for a lot of roads, 20 is suitable, back streets, narrow lanes, schools, pedestrianised areas etc. But there are miles long arterial roads in London, wide enough to drive battle tanks both ways, that are 20mph. It's just ludicrously slow for roads of that type.
@GeorgeFoot11 ай бұрын
Most of my local city is 20mph zones, it's not really a problem, you get used to it. It will be hard at first though as people are stubborn and won't obey, and will be angry towards road users who are obeying the limit. They can still increase the limit to 30 on selected roads where that's appropriate.
@kalax2282 Жыл бұрын
did my driving test on cearphilly road and its one of them ones where you just have to know its a 20 zone. very confusing when trying to do my test when street lights with no sign were sometimes 20 and some 30 you just have to know by practicing on them roads.
@davidevans32274 ай бұрын
Caerphilly rd can be really confusing and busy sometimes! well done 🙂 x
@bootmii98Ай бұрын
If there's no sign when you get on, something as generic as possible should apply.
@chris82177 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it be nice if drivers could be trusted to drive without speed limits. I'm sure there are plenty of drivers here that wouldn't dream about going above 25mph if there were cars parked up to the left and they couldn't see to stop if a child or animal ran out in front of them. Unfortunately there are also many drivers who wouldn't have a problem at driving at 50mph in that same scenerio.
@broshmosh Жыл бұрын
Refreshing to see some sense here. Seems many are willing to ignore this reality.
@xHypnoToad Жыл бұрын
I've always wondered what the roads would look like with no speed limits. Would there be more accidents? would people drive faster than usual? etc
@eugeniaabdey5579 Жыл бұрын
@@xHypnoToad autobahn in Germany is a good example. Efficient.
@fluffy3953 Жыл бұрын
@@xHypnoToad i dont think itd be too much different as people generally drive at what speed feels appropriate and that they are confident doing. people who drive dangerously do so anyway even with limits, just slowing down for the cameras or when police are there. i think they can be appriopriate in places to make a point, such as school zones, but often times other road signs warn you better of changes to road that help dictate what speed/gear u drive at rather than a speed limit. i think this is clear with the national speed limit on country roads, like yes you could do 60mph down a bendy road with poor visibility and is only wide enough for 1 car, but id say that majority of people wouldnt because it feels unsafe. other times speed limits can feel arbitarily slow, for example, the inner ring road in leeds had a limit of 40mph despite being a sunken dual carriage way/motorway and it would feel reasonably safe to do 60 down it.
@TimpBizkit Жыл бұрын
I take it you've watched the video footage of supercars whizzing down parked up streets. It only takes one opened door.... They hit around 90 from what I could make of the blurred out speedo, so fast motorway driving on a parked up residential street!
@marymcv3442 Жыл бұрын
In southern Scotland, we have a ton of 20mph zones, often in quiet industrial areas with very few pedestrians (or even vehicles), which can be a bit frustrating! And you get cars tailgating you a lot :-/ On the bright side, it does give you more time to react early to any hazards … but as other commenters have pointed out, you get people overtaking you in borderline dangerous places, which probably wouldn’t happen in a 30 zone, so not sure that the benefits outweigh the risks 🤷🏻♀️
@user-ng1eo4rr8n11 ай бұрын
Richard, I thoroughly enjoy your video's. Driverless technology in cars and trucks are quickly becoming the way of the future. In Arizona, USA, people can request a car through their app and crawl in without having to drive once it shows up in your driveway. When everything on the road is driverless and we are all sitting and enjoying the ride, there won't be a need for speed limits, tyre pressure gauges, oil changes, MOT's, finding an honest car mechanic, or battling for the cheapest car insurance. Car ownership will diminish and it will be cheaper to 'dial a car' use it and watch it drive away when you're done. Will it put driving examiners and driving instructors out of a job?
@AbeMyatt Жыл бұрын
I definitely think 20mph is suitable for certain situations in built-up areas and town centres, and definitely in school zones, but there are plenty of roads which are currently 30mph across Wales which will definitely feel sluggish and unnecessarily slow at 20mph. Even some of the current 20mph zones around my local area seem too slow. Certain 30mph roads are quite wide and open and I will often be tailgated in those areas, too, so I can't imagine how it will be when they become 20mph. I would be happier with the 20mph limits if public transport across Wales was immensely improved, as alternative options to driving your own car could actually be quicker or more comfortable. I also think the majority of road users won't follow the limit, similarly to the highway code changes for pedestrians and cyclist priorities at junctions. Which then becomes even more confusing and dangerous to be around. I expect to see lots of dangerous overtakes and people following the car in front way too close.
@OscarOSullivan10 ай бұрын
Well those who fail to abide by it can deal it with it in the district court
@OscarOSullivan10 ай бұрын
@@JohnDoe-ne4kg I don’t actually drive
@thunderbug8640 Жыл бұрын
20 is too slow in all but the most precarious urban roads
@imfine5818 Жыл бұрын
Past my test today and your videos were a great help👍
@ConquerDriving Жыл бұрын
That's fantastic news! Thank you for watching and congratulations on passing!
@stevej3296 Жыл бұрын
Following the introduction of the default 20 mph limit on urban roads in Wales local authorities will still be able to apply to keep 30 mph for roads where it's more practical. I'm from Wales and most of the motorists I know who are opposed to the change seem to have missed this point and think it's going to be blanket 20 everywhere. On balance I agree with the new default but time will tell if it proves to be beneficial.
@pmrose1811 ай бұрын
How about the £25million they wasted on the new signage? better spent repairing roads, and do you really think if it doesnt work theyll revert back? nahhhhhhh cash cow nothing less
@ethelmini11 ай бұрын
Halfway through and you've demonstrated why 20 makes prefect sense. You've either kept up, or caught up, with all the traffic or still had to stop at red lights, just arriving at them a little later. You'll have saved fuel, created less wear to your vehicle and produced less pollution. If your car can record mpg you should do a comparison video. You may be surprised by how massive the difference can be.
@Wolfy1118811 ай бұрын
My fuel consumption has increased since the addition of 2 20mph zones during my daily commute to work purely because I used to sit with my car in 4th gear at low rpm at 30 mph. Now I sit with my car at a higher rpm in 3rd gear because if I put it in 4th my car wants to stall and has zero pull. I would always get between 435-445 miles on a full tank and now its been reduced to 395-410 ish. I have a 2 litre diesel which is possibly the most common engine size for a car these days although I'm not 100% sure on that. Anyone that says its for environmental reasons I would say is full of it. The fact that they've fitted an additional speed camera in each of the zones really doesn't help their case either. Safety my arse.
@venomyx204 Жыл бұрын
Only UK will complain about emisions and continue to cause higher emisions by slowing cars down which gives them less to the gallon.
@joso7228 Жыл бұрын
The emissions thing is hogwash! Pedestrian Zones will help. Cycling Lanes too. But 20mph is for an Old Peoples Society. Night Night Britain! Last one to leave put the Horlicks mugs in the sink.
@ericritchie6783 Жыл бұрын
... You do realise it's actually "longer stretches of road" that increase mileage efficiency because you can actually maintain momentum for more than a minute at a time... Unlike on most urban roads. Complex built up areas are more efficient at lower speeds because your not breaking as hard everywhere for every junction and obstacle and can avoid coming to a full stop more often with more time to observe. Otherwise your just wasting energy to go on your breaks and wearing your tires to accelerate again. The most energy intensive phase is acceleration...
@pmrose1811 ай бұрын
@@ericritchie6783 My car isnt broken...... its the safety first w*nkers that are, lower gear higher rpm higher rpm more cycles of the engine try doing 3rd at 20mph in many cars......but dont worry with those new fandangled leccy motors with their tyre shredding capabilities that wont be a problem as they smash their excessively heavy weight down the potholed roads they cant afford to fill due to having spent the budget on changing 20mph signs over
@stu100211 ай бұрын
I think it's genuinely more dangerous. 20mph is so flipping boring, that people's attention will wander, they will be more likely to take their eye off the road, fiddle with the radio and sat nav, play with their phone, and crash more. I'm absolutely convinced I drive safer when I drive at a speed that encourages me to focus 100% on driving. I think this is true across the board - which is why the Autobahn is not as dangerous as people expect - you really pay attention when you're doing 120mph..
@ricardomroberto11 ай бұрын
With regards to ever-increasing road rules, surely 20mph is reducing the number of rules? Before, there were some 30mph and some 20mph roads in Wales. Now they are all 20mph
@PhillipParr Жыл бұрын
As always, speed doesn't kill, lack of attention (or skill) does. Wales' new limit seems a bit draconian. Looking at the data it seems 51% of Wales' car accidents happen in a 30 zone, most of which classified as A roads. Most weren't at or near a junction, but a fair chunk were. Those junction collisions aren't going to drop because of a lower limit, but it'll be interesting to see the effect on the other accidents.
@pmrose1811 ай бұрын
This is what the morons making the rules always ignore the lack of attention its always SPEED b.s also shunting any road injury blame onto the driver with their BS new highway code rules which gives pedestrians cyclists carte blanche to almost always not be at fault..........Instead of teaching EVERYONE about road safety. Then theres also the ludicrous way theyll say we dont want "any" casualties......aint gonna happen, Uk has almost the lowest death rate on the roads...go to Thailand 60-70 a day die thats not incuding injuries then get a dose of reality.
@robi438711 ай бұрын
Exactly. Yes, I see people driving whilst using a phone but far more people drive belligerently because they have a big or new or powerful car or they drive a van and think that gives them a pass. But to quote the official DTp research. “There is not enough evidence to conclude that there has been a significant change in collisions and casualties following the introduction of 20mph limits in residential areas” Atkins AECOM and Professor Mike Maher (UCL) were commissioned by the Department of Transport in 2014 to address the gap in evidence available on the effectiveness of 20mph speed limit (signed only) schemes. Twelve case study schemes were studied, from a variety of area types, road types and scale. Published 22 November 2018 Last updated 11 March 2019
@gitanonumero198310 ай бұрын
Lower speed = shorter braking distance, short reaction time distance. Lower speed also means that if you do hit something you are a lot less likely to cause serious injury or death. It really isn't difficult to understand. There's an arrogance to drivers, they seem to think they exclusively own the road and any sort of measure that better the health of the community and reduces the risk of death to others in the in the community, it is seen as some attack on motorist... “When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression."
@PhillipParr10 ай бұрын
@@gitanonumero1983 There's an arrogance to cyclists who think they deserve to be the only ones on the road.
@gitanonumero198310 ай бұрын
@@PhillipParr I'd love to find anybody who thinks that... meanwhile entitled drivers... there's plenty
@alyx6427 Жыл бұрын
the problem is that no one is actually abiding by the limit. if we had speed cameras then it would be good but unfortunately that’s not the reality. also ends up with getting tailgated frequently for going the limit
@joso7228 Жыл бұрын
More speed cameras to suck our money away. Its a Scam
@goneaway9185 Жыл бұрын
Because the limits are ridiculous.
@pmrose1811 ай бұрын
youll be first inline for having a chip embedded in you so you can be followed 24hours a day no doubt.
@psocretes81838 ай бұрын
The thing is when the 30 MPH speed limit was introduced, they were different times. Not so congested. Now there are a lot more people on the highways and they have islands in the road and vehicles parked at the kerb etc. Most cars didn't have the power to accelerate as they can now speeding from one bit of congestion to the next. I'm now retired and cycle mostly and 20 MPH is nice because I can filter in with the traffic and cross the road much more easily. It's about the community not just vehicle drivers.
@peterjeremymckenzie844411 ай бұрын
Three days in and the 20mph limit has so far been relatively easy to adjust to and the driving experience is calmer. Some councils have been over cautious in exempting some roads but expect over the years some roads will go back to 30, industrial estates for example. But to put this in proportion, a 140 mile drive from Wrexham to Cardiff or Barry will involve only about 5miles of 20mph limit adding maybe 5 minutes. I do think that the UK should not just have speed limits at 10 mph jumps, 20, 30, 40 ,50 etc as there seems no reason why you could not have a 25 mph limit. But on the whole a fuss about a fairly small change although after driving for 40 yrs it is a culture change because the car is no longer king of the road.
@julianpenfold1638 Жыл бұрын
Wales definitely off my list of places to drive to now, though it will come to everywhere, and there will be further lowerings of all speed limits everywhere, more LTNs, more LEZs, more residents only parking zones, more "congestion charging", more expensive motoring. Glad I won't live to see the end of it.
@Tyreman2211 ай бұрын
I’m about to go to Wales for the last time. After 32 years of holidays. It will simply take to long to go sight seeing.They won’t miss me, But they will definitely miss the money I spend when I’m there. The guy who owns the cottages I stay in told me he has already pre warned his staff that some of them will most likely loose their jobs next season. Just a sign of the times I guess.
@julianpenfold163811 ай бұрын
@@Tyreman22 Very sad. Hopefully the pendulum will one day swing back the other way.
@ironhorsehero1988 Жыл бұрын
I’d like to see the statistics for the number of lives saved in the pilot areas, and the air quality difference made since the introduction of the 20mph limits, there you go Welsh government an opportunity to make up some fictional statistics, I’m guessing there aren’t any positive stats or they’d be shouting them from the rooftops (well from a little set of steps, rooftops too dangerous in Wales 😂)
@pmrose1811 ай бұрын
Theyll pay some woke brigade to do the research to get the "right" answer
@Poetry4Peace Жыл бұрын
awesome content appreciate ur efforts!
@callumrdavis11 ай бұрын
I visit Wales monthly and had no idea about this. I’ve not seen anything saying that this change was coming. How will tourists know?
@TheRealEnglishTeacher Жыл бұрын
Nobody: James May: 10:20
@jaybarnish77 Жыл бұрын
Ultimately limits freedom of movement.
@4kgamecube Жыл бұрын
passed on 20/6 first try 2 minors. thank you for the amazing help!!
@ConquerDriving Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on passing!
@ajuk1 Жыл бұрын
I had thought they would have to do it with repeaters. It doesn't make much difference to driving since the non-compliance is so high. I think the A469 is a good example of the sort of road that should have been exempted.
@jaybarnish77 Жыл бұрын
A 10 mph change at lower speeds is far more significant than changes at high speeds. For example: 70 mph changed to 60 Will make a 70 mile drive (1hr drive) take 10 additional minutes. 30mph to 20mph will make a 1hr (30mile) drive take 30 additional minutes.
@kelvincheung7828 Жыл бұрын
I'm not saying they should replace 30s with 20s, but there's hardly any places with 30 speed limits for more than the stretch of a town/village
@beanburger5689 Жыл бұрын
What route are you driving in Wales that is 1 hour of 30mph limits?
@user-mv5zt8qd9l Жыл бұрын
To play devil's advocate, if you're taking a longer drive, you're not going to spend all that time on urban roads doing 30 (or soon 20). I can't think of a drive (except maybe through large cities where any speed increase would be negated by time spent waiting at junctions anyway) where you're going to spend a substantial amount of time on urban streets. In the context of smaller towns, it does kind of beg the question of if you needed to drive in the first place if the entire route doesn't even leave town (obviously I'm not slating people with mobility issues or who need to make occasional time-sensitive trips).
@jamesmichaels4979 Жыл бұрын
Its a ploy to take money from speeding fines
@stephenbanyar1874 Жыл бұрын
Only to blow it on progress paintings on the roads in front of landmarks.
@afitzsimons11 ай бұрын
In London my average speed is higher since there are more 20 mph zones. Just means I wait at traffic lights for less time.
@johnwoods833111 ай бұрын
As a cyclist, I would be happy with a 30 mph speed limit if people could just be patient and pass me at a safe location instead of close passing at ridiculous speeds that risk my life. If people are incapable of doing this then I support a 20 mph cap.
@tombartram738410 ай бұрын
When I'm in a 20 on my 250w bike doing 15-16mph cars hang there about 10 feet behind me cause they're scared to overtake. Then finally do pass only to be immediately replaced by another car. I preferred 30 if I'm honest.
@BeatsByYari Жыл бұрын
Seems a bit strange to have 20mph limits on roads with 2 lanes on each side that are designed like through roads. The 20 limit doesn’t seem bad on its own, but it should be accompanied by more traffic calming measures, like reducing 2 car lanes to one and adding a protected bike lane. It does seem like a step in the right direction if further actions follow to make the streets safer
@Karll541 Жыл бұрын
lol 😆
@v6i838 Жыл бұрын
I would have changed it to 25 mph, I think people would be much more likely to actually stick to 25 mph compared to 20mph, where nearly everyone does 30 mph, and the few that actually do 20 mph are inadvertently causing problems for everyone else Psychologically 25 mph feels not much slower than 30 mph but 20 mph feels a lot slower Also 20mph is on the cusp between 2nd and 3rd gears, 25 mph is comfortably 3rd gear
@joso7228 Жыл бұрын
Or we could choose 30mph
@Xarvey11 ай бұрын
Today is the day it went through, constantly forgot it was in place and when you remember it's 20 it feels stupidly slow
@Vanessinha91Pucca Жыл бұрын
We have a road that the original limit was 70kph. I feel it was too quick, but they drop it years later to 60kph.. it was perfect. But not it's 50kph and we get abused, un-natural slow and to be honest, it isn't more safe this difference of 10kph. But it do create more traffic and accidents as ppl get crazy to go faster (even if it's ilegal).. It's even hard to keep the car that slow to be honest.
@HEKVT Жыл бұрын
Very good point about less freedom, every year there's more and more restrictions.
@pmrose1811 ай бұрын
Theres a LOAD more coming
@smoothie2629 Жыл бұрын
1:15 oof 🤣
@stephenbanyar187411 ай бұрын
My respect for Richard went up a bit. I wouldn't use 📈, because it implies that he once lost my respect.
@Brauschemann2 ай бұрын
Richard got it exactly right at 1:15 , so don’t allow any confused person tell you otherwise ! 😅
@MichaelCHorler Жыл бұрын
It's crazy to see you driving in Cardiff. So close to where I live! I hope you had a nice drive and stay there! P.S I also find the 20mph regulation a little bit too slow too...
@martuhurley9 ай бұрын
Warning sign for helicopters as that’s heath hospital on the left. Air ambulance often land here
@flyebynite9735 Жыл бұрын
All road users will have to obey this 20mph. You stated that cyclists are more able to pass cars. Keep in mind if the cyclists passes a car travelling at 20mph, they are breaking the speed limit. This means Cyclists will need to be held to the same fines or prosecutions as any other road user.
@joso7228 Жыл бұрын
They are.
@CHEEKYlad_lol Жыл бұрын
There's no speed limit for cyclists. Look it up
@douglasreid699 Жыл бұрын
@@CHEEKYlad_lol True but like undertaking (undertaking is not illegal but you can be prosecuted for due care and attention if i remember correctly), there is a way they can get prosecuted for speeding by use of carless or reckless cycling.
@esoteric_thomas Жыл бұрын
I'll carry on doing 30, not a problem
@nissan300bhp11 ай бұрын
it is not a light show, it is called winter wonderland, its an attraction thats here every year for christmas / new year
@CentaurUK9011 ай бұрын
20 mph means driving in a lower gear = more fuel consumption = more pollution. Is this entirely rational or am I missing something ?
@Domce13311 ай бұрын
They have to justify their jobs and using taxpayer money so they just add any changes even if they don't make any sense.
@robertbutler2481 Жыл бұрын
This is sheer lunacy.
@Xenon777_ Жыл бұрын
I wonder if those who said yes to 20mph speed limits were less likely to own a car.
@joso7228 Жыл бұрын
or be old
@Karll541 Жыл бұрын
Or are just trash people
@paulhoughland85056 ай бұрын
I drive HGV in Cardiff, I like the 20mph, it makes it easier to get out of junctions and enter roundabouts.
@johncalvin970311 ай бұрын
Count the number of pedestrians, 20mph for safety, clearly demonstrates it’s a farce, another cash cow for the coffers.
@user-zi3vr7ms7m Жыл бұрын
Driving laws in the UK change in keeping with European legislation - this change, as is the priority pedestrians should be given when they step out of the curve, is a testament to that. Regarding the latter, you can see it in Portugal, Poland, Sweden etc. Having said this, irrespective of ecological considerations, the risk of having a fatal accident is the product of the number of cars on the road times speed. Since the number of cars is constantly increasing, the speed limits have to decrease only to keep the risk at the same level as a few years ago! I'm all for the 20-mph change; in fact, all speed limits should be reduced by 5 mph in my opinion (70 -> 65, 60 -> 55) for the same reason (risk assessment). Law enforcement is a big issue; if we (= the government) double the points for every offence and quadruple all fines, there will be a lot fewer accidents and a lot more officers to chase those who violate the law. Dying on the road is barbaric and there should be no excuses.
@joso7228 Жыл бұрын
Brexit.
@CrappyProducts Жыл бұрын
Literally NO ONE goes 20mph in Portugal, period
@ericritchie6783 Жыл бұрын
It's barbaric, unfortunately people are conditioned by over 100 years of nasty motor lobby public manipulation. Unfortunately the majority of motorists are way too complacent in tolerating bad behaviour of the few that set the abrasive tone of traffic.
@joso7228 Жыл бұрын
No I don't agree. Old People making rules for Old People. There should be a Competence Test at 70 and every 5 years to get the dithering OAPs off our streets. If they cannot drive safely at 30mph then they should not endanger our children.
@philliplewis-pm1ln11 ай бұрын
great well done mark
@gary856711 ай бұрын
I just cancelled my holiday to Wales next year because of the speed limit reduced to 20 mph.
@IoanaEnea Жыл бұрын
Personally I hope it encourages people to leave cars at home more often! I’d rather have a city with more public transport, more cyclists on the road and fewer cars. The speed limit doesn’t matter much when you’re stuck in gridlocked traffic during rush hour. As a driver, being stuck in traffic is not very fun. As for the freedom argument I agree to a certain extent, but when you factor in the climate crisis, I think we all need to re-evaluate how we view transport in general and move towards forms of transport that are energy efficient. Sadly, single occupant cars are one of the least energy efficient ways to move people around. I’m not saying personal cars shouldn’t be on the road at all (they definitely have their use cases), but I don’t think we can afford for cars to be everyone’s no. 1 choice of transport anymore.
@fluffy3953 Жыл бұрын
i think its mostly irriating when measures like this aren't supported by improvements to public transport, making communiting more difficult in general. For example where I live they are pushing the use of public transit (which i support) however at the same time the only transit options avaliable to most people are busses which can end up making the journey go from 15-20mins to an hour, also ignoring them frequently being delayed or cancelled which can make using public transit very stressful. This is in a very large urban area as well, and not to mention service going from every 10 or 15 mins to every hour after 6pm, and stopping completely around 10 or 11pm. before i drove to work in the city centre, it was not uncommon for my bus around 10pm to be cancelled which either meant waiting another hour in the street (unsafe as a young woman) or getting a taxi or a lift which negates any eco benefit from using public transit as someone still had to drive in and out of town, and sit in a large queue of traffic.
@joso7228 Жыл бұрын
Yes the answer to less cars is better public transport, pedestrian zones and cycle lanes but its NOT 20mph.
@astyaworld28584 ай бұрын
There are no public transport developed in Wales. It can take up to 3 hours to go from Newport to Cwmbran by public transport
@euler73 Жыл бұрын
Both genders? :-) Based!
@chrisguest778 Жыл бұрын
I passed my test last Friday with only 2 minors and your videos helped me achieve that. Thank you very much for making them, they're so incredibly helpful!!!
@ConquerDriving Жыл бұрын
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@antonybull9988 ай бұрын
20mph (32kph) is very slow, but I appreciate it is for pedestrian safety. Me and the Mrs travelled to Australia earlier this year and hired a car for 3 weeks. They have many speed limits but the best for me, was 40kph (25mph) in built up areas. This speed limit was safer than 30mph but didn’t feel like you were crawling either. There’s a lot the UK could take from Australia and this is one of them.
@tonypearce4003 Жыл бұрын
The only road you said that justifies the20 mph limit through the middle of the town centre passing the castle is in actual fact still 30mph. Cardiff speed limits make no sense at the moment…
@douglasreid699 Жыл бұрын
for years we have had people (that think they are safe drivers) driving in a 30mph zone at 35mph+ and thinking its ok, its only a wee bit over the speed limit, its not as dangerous as going 70mph in a national speed limit zone. thats their mentality anyway. and thats the problem, how do you solve it? change the psycology, make it all 20mph zones and a lot more people will do 27 to 30mph as they watch for cameras and not wanting to get a speeding ticket so the council get people doing the original speed limit or less. one of my biggest annoyances in drivers are drivers that speed in a 30mph zone yet do 50mph in a national speed limit, i feel if they in that much of a hurry they should speed in both zones. and the reasons for most speeding is discipline and education. no one is getting retested to make sure their skills are still up to standard and if you get training to know what to look for, you could speed in areas and still stop in time and be safe. our driving tests are not actually teaching us to drive, they are teaching us the basics of driving and once passed, we are competent to drive by ourselves unsupervised. go and take some advanced driving lessons and you can really see how much more to driving there is to learn. my personal experience, living between Stirling and Falkirk most of my driving life, 17 years of driving, i have once a year roughly a kid chasing a footbal in a 30mph zone run out in front of me and i can stop in time thanks to the advanced training my dad gave to me as he was an advanced driving instructor. i have had maybe 5 animals jump out in front of me in national speed limit roads where i have had to brake hard and come to a stop. if more people could understand why a 30mph zone is a 30mph zone and stick to that speed, we would not be having this campaign by councils to reduce the speed limits. this is probably the start, soon national speed limits are going to change to 50mph. enjoy it while it lasts.
@asprintablet Жыл бұрын
Not in Wales but in Scotland, in Edinburgh most of the city is 20 and they are trying to drop the speeds of more roads to 20. Due to this driving in 30 zones kinda make me panicky that I have missed the speed signs - especially if I am somewhere out of Edinburgh as I'm so used to the repeaters. I wouldn't be surprised if the rest of the UK follows suit after this is implemented for a while.
@douglasreid699 Жыл бұрын
Stirling is also rolling out a lot of 20mph zones that are not really needed and making it even worse to drive through it. But with enough people not behaving and driving at the speed limit or at a safe speed, they either get people to do more training (expensive and very unlikely to tell people to learn more about driving) or blanket speed limit reduction to get people to drive slower thinking its safer (which it might be, but does make more people annoyed and frustrated which is bad for driving and safety).
@Dean25611 ай бұрын
Edinburgh makes me laugh most of the streets are 20 apart from the streets that have a speed camera which are still at 30 as the old gastro cameras that are littered around Edinburgh cannot register 20.
@Leehuss558211 ай бұрын
Here in London we are used to the 20mph limit, NOW driving at 30mph feels SO fast. Sounds mad but its true...you still have some still wanting and hornning at you for doing 20
@JayScaggs11 ай бұрын
20mph maybe too slow for some vehicles like (older) automatic vehicles. Are Focus Focus 2012 (automatic) a revs high at 20mph but just going to about 22-24mph the car goes up a gear and revs go down to a normal level. In my area, we have 20mph speed limit to help with air pollution. A question "If your automatic car is revs high at 20mps, is it making more air pollution as it can not change up to the next gear and running rev at normal levels?"
@MrXispas11 ай бұрын
In my country, Portugal, a normal car needs about 9 meters to do a full stop from 50 Km/h. We also have that 30 Km/h limit in some places. What's the stop distance from 30 Km/h to full stop? Is it worth it? I drive a lot in roads with 50 Km/h limit where you could easily go 70 with no problem, there are no houses, no people, nothing except police and radars. At 50 you get distracted, it's to slow.
@cornishgiant11 ай бұрын
Signs in Swansea have gone up for the new 20 zones today. I was overtaken by 3 cars and waved at (with hands in a circle and vigorous up and down motions). I am quite zen on the roads and will just drive to the signs and conditions. A lot of conflict will occur as a result of this change
@imaner7611 ай бұрын
I think it's going to be very stressful for those that do follow the road speed limit. It was hard enough with regards to receiving abuse from other drivers in a 30mph. 20 mph is going to add to more potentially dangerous and violent interactions on the road.
@StefanHolmes Жыл бұрын
We need a 20 limit because you’re all pissing about on your phones whilst driving.