Is a Cyber Security Degree Worth it? (My Tips)

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Colin Kelly

Colin Kelly

Күн бұрын

I recently graduated from a 4 year Bachelors of Science cyber security program. Cyber Security is a very unique field in that a degree isn't necessary if you have the experience. In this video I reflect on the 4 years I spent as a student and present some alternatives and options I wish I had considered.

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@ContractHacker
@ContractHacker 3 жыл бұрын
Want more? Check out an educational blog I'm currently building over at cybercareerschool.com/blog/
@priyanshuyadav4994
@priyanshuyadav4994 3 жыл бұрын
thanks bro
@ContractHacker
@ContractHacker 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking out the video!
@dr.rajsihag4828
@dr.rajsihag4828 3 жыл бұрын
Which camera is used
@PabloGonzalez-qh6ii
@PabloGonzalez-qh6ii 3 жыл бұрын
@@ContractHacker Do you think getting a Cyber Security Specialist certificate is good? My college offers it. I was thinking of getting into IT work 1st and get more experience with computers. I wasn't exposed to computers until I was reaching my junior to senior year of high school.
@ej-ns3ve
@ej-ns3ve 3 жыл бұрын
@@ContractHacker Hi. Can you make a video for obtaining certificates for one year? And what are the qualifications to enroll on a certification class? Like, does it require a Bachelors Degree? Or I can enroll directly to certification classes? I am really interested about cyber security and someday I want to be a cyber security engineer. I don’t know where to start. There’s a course in our country (Philippines) where they offer BS in Cyber Security for four years, but I was confused when you started talking about the one year certification. Can you tell me or us more about the certifications and how to obtain one? And qualifications as well. Thank you.
@mohammadqadiri4063
@mohammadqadiri4063 3 жыл бұрын
Love how this guy doesnt give us a whole bunch of nonsense at the beginning THANK YOU
@youngrevival9715
@youngrevival9715 2 жыл бұрын
Curiously. Almost all videos I skip the first 4 minutes
@abdulrahmanhs8162
@abdulrahmanhs8162 2 жыл бұрын
دخلت أمن سيبراني؟ أم لسا
@KL4life
@KL4life 2 жыл бұрын
Gd I know what you mean as there's a lot of click baiters out there that just want your veiws
@wolfcompany2
@wolfcompany2 3 жыл бұрын
Your camera is so good and the fact you look straight into the camera without blinking.... several times I’m thinking if I’m watching an AI or human talk 😂
@HolySpiritInspired
@HolySpiritInspired 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha
@neerajk_10
@neerajk_10 3 жыл бұрын
AI has really improved
@jojo8292
@jojo8292 3 жыл бұрын
Have you seen the ceo of Bitcoin speak in an interview? 😂😂
@EgoTeach
@EgoTeach 2 жыл бұрын
Most ethical hackers don't blink when they're talking 😂
@Laevatei1nn
@Laevatei1nn 2 жыл бұрын
Dude's head is moving but his eyes arent.. staring straight into my soul
@gilbertaguirre8075
@gilbertaguirre8075 3 жыл бұрын
College route point #3 is where I’m slacking with self study route. Starting from scratch learning the sections to build a study book, but networking is key. PBS Crash Course - Computer Science & intellectual property are awesome with great visuals to learn basics. Ted talk is great to pick up lingo and new Key Words as well as a personable responses. (Great picture and audio quality, Video point structure 💯 straight to the points👍🏼)
@liammckenna1479
@liammckenna1479 3 жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw you didn't have an introduction slide with a jingle I liked the video.
@Ingeanous
@Ingeanous 3 жыл бұрын
Boiled down, certifications give a measure of how well you know how the sausage is made at the powershell, config t, or sudo level. A bachelors gives you some insight into the management of the resources under your purview. A master's gives you a much broader scope of how IT fits into the success of the business overall, specifically the value of IT as a profit center and revenue generator, maybe even a leader in their critical infrastructure sector. It is the transition from the IT get it done folks to senior management and articulating the justification for IT budgets for the resources to have the super-smart IT folks, software, etc
@tulasideviful
@tulasideviful 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful! Thanks Colin. I like that you're a real person, with regular zits and a pink rock lamp.
@andrewvaldez9088
@andrewvaldez9088 2 жыл бұрын
I'm barely going to enroll into college and this helped me find the right path I wanted. Thank you!
@colettelane3728
@colettelane3728 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information and video, great job! Good luck in your current Indevors. 👍
@RaymondJonesrejlive
@RaymondJonesrejlive 2 жыл бұрын
Great information here. I chose the college route and will definitely move forward quickly with getting my certs as well.
@JasmineBella2029
@JasmineBella2029 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the awesome vids dude!
@jlprescott7243
@jlprescott7243 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the degree! Majoring for a BS in Cybersecurity, too. Yes, the benefits of college is the networking and learning the fundamentals that will help me on my certifications. Cheers!
@nylahburns9767
@nylahburns9767 3 жыл бұрын
What year are you in?
@erocalypse21
@erocalypse21 3 жыл бұрын
What if you have no previous computer skills ? Plz help
@ankitbasnet837
@ankitbasnet837 2 жыл бұрын
Does cyber security require science background?
@mateuszsieraszewski7666
@mateuszsieraszewski7666 2 жыл бұрын
@@ankitbasnet837 idk about other counteries, but it's probably the same. In poland you need maths, because this is basically the subject they teach for first year, you probably need a really basic science knowledge
@xsilentx1982
@xsilentx1982 Жыл бұрын
could you share your experience? Was it worth getting a degree and is it paying off
@muhammedsheriff5351
@muhammedsheriff5351 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly the only video that really helped me thanks!
@karrde666666
@karrde666666 3 жыл бұрын
I did computer science degree, you didnt miss out on anything. You could catch up in a year and learn the most during internships as well
@muradalm5730
@muradalm5730 3 жыл бұрын
I really like this channel! Small Tips: 1- Add a master volume control, so that your voice's volume will be consistent for the whole video. 2- Make the video transitions bit smoother. its a little bit of work but once you get it it will be fast easy after a couple of videos. Good luck buddy! Keep up the good work!
@darnellg8599
@darnellg8599 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I am currently in a college with a 4.0 GPA, just got my Security +, still planning to attain my Network + and A+ as a personal goal. The Cert I will attain after these is the CCNA and onward to the OSCP. I personally think the more knowledgeable to networking you become the easier Cybersecurity becomes as identifying what is typical and non typical activity traversing a network becomes more second nature. I know this is not the only aspect however, I felt it is a position that will provide some of the most useful experience fresh out of college going into a cyber security role.
@elchinmammadov624
@elchinmammadov624 3 жыл бұрын
why would you get A+ if you have Sec+?
@darnellg8599
@darnellg8599 3 жыл бұрын
@@elchinmammadov624 The security+ is higher in the tier system of CompTIA, however many employers view the credentials differently. A+ shows competency in Hardware & Software, Security + shows competency regarding basic security concepts such as the CIA Triad, or the Encryption Algorithms. If you were to be an employer looking for someone to maintain servers etc. you would most likely desire an A+ over a Security+. If you are an organization maintaining data for companies through cloud services, you would be more likely to want someone with Security+ and either Net+/A. The government is big regarding the Security + as it is attached as a requirement for clearance jobs.
@darnellg8599
@darnellg8599 3 жыл бұрын
Update: Got my Network+
@TeShady
@TeShady 2 жыл бұрын
@@darnellg8599 your getting the certs while attending school? I start my cybersecurity degree in sept as a junior. Should I try and bang out these certs after a few semesters?
@darnellg8599
@darnellg8599 2 жыл бұрын
@@TeShady I have tackled 3 certifications now. I got my CompTIA Network +, CompTIA Security +, and my CCNA. My security plus got me a contract job working for the government making good money. I would highly recommend you studying for a certification while in school. Remember though, each cert correlates to different roles in IT. Make sure to stack certs wisely. I would recommend personally starting at Security + as it is the cert that leads to work most immediately of the entry level certifications with CompTIA.
@hgpmonero608
@hgpmonero608 3 жыл бұрын
Happy for you. I am in the process of doing the same. Thanks for the motivation.
@ezekielgriffin9091
@ezekielgriffin9091 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Colin, I really love your knowledge on the industry. I chose to go back to college and work on my Associate Degree in Cybersecurity while obtaining my certifications as well. That my University offers to Cybersecurity students to take and pass. Then do some internship closer to my graduation date. After I graduate I was planning on working in the industry. Then go back to school to get my Bachelor's degree a few months after I graduate. The reason for that being is I want to work for the government and I have to have a 4 year degree. Also I feel like with my Associate degree and certifications I will get paid more starting off at entry level.
@jeffersoncruz59
@jeffersoncruz59 3 жыл бұрын
Good choice this is what I did, Paid nothing for my associates and got a job, and went back to get my bachelor's while having already certifications and getting the job experience. Finished and was able to get many job offers.
@pedrog5846
@pedrog5846 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffersoncruz59 I’m trying to find resources on like videos on whether the CC route is worth it. Besides it being less expensive, I want to make sure its a good choice. Just fyi I don’t really have much of a background in IT.
@reymimartinez7904
@reymimartinez7904 Жыл бұрын
@Jay Gaming that’s what I want to do as well but i don’t know if a associates in cyber security will really put me out there
@eman-kq8cw
@eman-kq8cw Жыл бұрын
any updates?
@alexanderviera2117
@alexanderviera2117 3 жыл бұрын
My counselor uses this saying when describing Cyber Security degrees. "Your knowledge will be a mile long but only an inch deep." You tend to learn about a lot of things but you aren't exactly proficient at any of those things. So I would agree that once you find the direction you want to go that you start working on certifications.
@ej-ns3ve
@ej-ns3ve 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I am just starting to do my research about cyber security and I agree with you. I would like to start on obtaining certifications. However, I would like to know how? and if that requires me to have a bachelor's degree if I am going to pursue one year of certification? Any insights or ideas will be highly appreciated. Thank you.
@SolidGeddoe
@SolidGeddoe 3 жыл бұрын
@@ej-ns3ve i am in the same boat as you,trying to find an online associates degree for cyber security but i also hear alot about certificates etc,i get a bit confused and dont know where to start in the IT field,i am really interested in cyber security and i heard system adminstrator is also a good path to take.
@ej-ns3ve
@ej-ns3ve 3 жыл бұрын
@@SolidGeddoe if you would like, we can join forces together to figure it out. I am really into cyber security field. Maybe we can help each other figure it out. Two minds are better than one. 😀 Please let me know if you’re interested.
@SolidGeddoe
@SolidGeddoe 3 жыл бұрын
@@ej-ns3ve Not sure what state youre in but i was looking around online and a counselor in california told me about a college called Rio Hondo college,he said theres alot of programs and associates degree in IT cyber security that can be completed online,i might enroll into that college.
@ej-ns3ve
@ej-ns3ve 3 жыл бұрын
@@SolidGeddoe Thanks for the info. I’ll look into it.
@ummhussain159
@ummhussain159 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate this video and the time you gave to make it. I’m thinking for my children who are getting a computer engineering degree to get a certificate to go with it. Our UNiversity offers it but our community college offers stuff super cheap
@abdulturay675
@abdulturay675 3 жыл бұрын
Great content Colin!
@mariaab1346
@mariaab1346 4 ай бұрын
Thanks Colin. This is actually helpful. I was in dilemma on choosing computer science vs cybersecurity.
@CatJam-ch8ow
@CatJam-ch8ow 4 ай бұрын
Which one have you chosen?
@braeden5181
@braeden5181 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your thoughts!
@diegogomez631
@diegogomez631 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video man!
@gabrielfono844
@gabrielfono844 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely great I am software engineer. I taught myself two years ago. Right now, I teaching cyber security for fun beside my full time job as software engineer Thanks Your video is amazing
@objectivereview4169
@objectivereview4169 3 жыл бұрын
Self study is actually really hard to achieve.
@mantas4484
@mantas4484 3 жыл бұрын
I failed self study It's really hard too indicate your own mistakes
@omairtech6711
@omairtech6711 3 жыл бұрын
Why precisely?
@objectivereview4169
@objectivereview4169 3 жыл бұрын
@@omairtech6711 You are missing the right literature. If you need help with anything you cant just ask a prof or phd. You have no other students you can work with. I mean if I would mention all reasons I could write an acedemic work about it because the list is so long
@deesh7438
@deesh7438 3 жыл бұрын
@CarCio Designs no one said it was impossible to be self taught, you are one of the fortunate ones that was able to learn yourself!
@RHTrix
@RHTrix 3 жыл бұрын
Self studying is a skill, for real. Some people need deadlines and a "higher authority" to continue chasing technical skills, similar to learning how to play instruments.
@Jasmynelove
@Jasmynelove Жыл бұрын
I love how he talked about the pros and cons first and then related it to his own experience. Most people will just tell us what they go through and not explain both ends of the spectrum.
@faheemal-amin9418
@faheemal-amin9418 2 жыл бұрын
Great video currently going both routes getting certifications first then college to study computer science!
@renziz9541
@renziz9541 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for making this video. its really helpful
@rehaanali2596
@rehaanali2596 Жыл бұрын
This helps me think about it from a different pov! Thankyou soo much, greetings from India!
@latetodagame1892
@latetodagame1892 2 жыл бұрын
I experienced this with programming. Great stuff👍🏼
@TheJmanuelsj
@TheJmanuelsj 3 жыл бұрын
Solid video mate!
@jjhassyGAMING
@jjhassyGAMING 2 жыл бұрын
I love when the start of a section blasts my eardrums out
@priyapandya9350
@priyapandya9350 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the information. I'm considering taking a master's degree in this field, it's just 1 year so I think there is not much loss (except maybe money).
@noora3211
@noora3211 3 жыл бұрын
do you mind me asking where? I'm looking into getting a masters too but the school I'm looking ats program is 2 years
@dennisthemenice8476
@dennisthemenice8476 3 жыл бұрын
If your in California, csusb has a really good program and offers scholarships for cyber security students.. especially at masters level
@theholt2ic219
@theholt2ic219 2 жыл бұрын
@@dennisthemenice8476 i just got accepted into the cyber security masters program. It’s nice to know it has a reputation lol
@ekrarefaz8594
@ekrarefaz8594 2 жыл бұрын
Great Content Man!
@ClevelandRocks216
@ClevelandRocks216 Жыл бұрын
Great video. The idea of the video is awesome. Only complaint, which was a deal breaker for me, is the audio quality. When there is a pause in speech the next sentence starts out screaming at me, and for this reason, I could only watch half the video. I would try more of your content but it's scary how loud it gets lol
@ronaldoderril9037
@ronaldoderril9037 2 жыл бұрын
That's what I thought that's y I went straight ahead in doing a CS degree Thank man this really helps alot 👍💯
@XpEcTZz
@XpEcTZz 3 жыл бұрын
I know for sure that location also matters, for instance the DMV (DC Maryland Virginia), an area that has tons of tech, cyber, federal companies. Trying to break into the security world in this area without a degree is pretty challenging because of the competition.
@nmagain24
@nmagain24 3 жыл бұрын
Military service is a good work around in areas like that
@tyshoncredle
@tyshoncredle 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video
@uche2564
@uche2564 3 жыл бұрын
Being in a class room and hearing a professor rattle off acronym’s 😂😂 I felt that pain
@bryanmatthew6106
@bryanmatthew6106 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Colin, this video gives me a good insight of what's better for me. I've always wanted to be a Cyber Security Expert/ a Penetration Tester and and wanted to pursue CybSec degree in a University. I had a short amount of time deciding which Uni I should attend, and I chose Arizona State University Computer Science (Cyber Security) Degree Program. I've tried discovering lots of universities, but I had a hard time choosing one that focuses more in Cyber Security, rather than Computer Science. Long story short, I chose the ASU's Comp Sci (CyberSec), and I'm now struggling with a lot of Math and Comp Sci lessons that I don't think necessary. Yes, I know that Cyber Security also needs programming, but I feel like this degree is 90% on Computer Science, and as I read the road map, I've realized that I will get the Cyber Sec Part at the end of the program, they don't even specify what classes are on it, I'm starting to think that this is a course regarding creating a secure environment with programming, rather than penetration testing. I'm kind struggling a lot, because they teach a lot of programming stuffs that I can't understand (Im currently at Java 2 -- GUI and OOP). I hope I can still get the job I want as a Penetration Tester.
@collinsnwanze8502
@collinsnwanze8502 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I understand what you going through but trust me.... it’s all for the better. All that math and comp science BS will come in handy when you land a job. Just hang in there and thug it through !
@DemonNitrix
@DemonNitrix Жыл бұрын
Hello, if you see this can you talk about how things turned out? for better or worst after a year
@kevingardocki
@kevingardocki 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Colin ! I’m really deciding on doing cyber security or computer science as a whole but feel more interested in cyber security ! Any thoughts on this path ? I don’t mind doing cyber security As a job ! Just curious with job opportunities within have a computer science degree
@ContractHacker
@ContractHacker 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Kevin, when deciding between comp sci and cyber security I would say the biggest factor is the maturity and reputation of the cyber security program you are looking at. If it is a very reputable cyber security program that will go a long way! I would just advise you to understand the security program at the school before committing to it. I have a in-depth blog post comparing the two degrees! cybercareerschool.com/cyber-security-vs-computer-science-degree/ Many schools have a "cyber security program" but it will really just be a mix between multiple degree programs within their Information Technology College. If you are really into the technical aspects of the field you cannot go wrong with a comp sci degree, this will open many doors for you and allow you to learn harder cyber security concepts later on. If you are considering this route I must advise you that this will be much more work, you need to make sure that you are getting involved with security projects and clubs on the side. Hopefully this helps! It's a very hard choice between the two but it really comes down to your specific interests and path!
@srs6461
@srs6461 3 жыл бұрын
@@ContractHacker What do you think about UTSA’s cyber security program?
@ianhowell4015
@ianhowell4015 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting take, definitely found this video to be helpful. Recently, through my community college I was accepted into an IT apprenticeship at a bank. It includes free tuition for the rest of my associates degree. There's the promise of a job offer after the completion of the apprenticeship and I am considering going for my bachelors. The time commitment is huge. I've seen a lot of IT people complete their degrees mid career....just to check that box. That's I might do. Cool video, thanks!
@vman9591
@vman9591 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the info.
@NightShooter87
@NightShooter87 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, well done.
@ContractHacker
@ContractHacker 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@redhat7025
@redhat7025 3 жыл бұрын
"Rattling off acronyms," I feel you.
@yihui7176
@yihui7176 Жыл бұрын
Hi Colin, thanks for this insightful video. Could I get your perspective on doing a Masters in Cyber Security? I studied an unrelated degree (accountancy) and am thinking of spending 2 years to do part-time masters (not as long as a bachelor's). I am already in the cyber security industry at the entry level. Would I be better off going for the certification route? Thanks in advance! Also, I'm thinking of doing either CRISC or CISM. Are you able to recommend which to do first?
@alialiraqi2664
@alialiraqi2664 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for information
@rinavelli
@rinavelli 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, great info. I never finished college & am considering getting a degree on this major. However, I am considering going the certificate route. Can you maybe do a video or provide a list of certifications you’d recommend to get done?
@ContractHacker
@ContractHacker 3 жыл бұрын
I would recommend starting with the network+ and the security+. These will establish a strong foundation and will set you up for more advanced certifications later on. After those two you will need to consider what career path you want so you can choose the most specific cert for that area. I have a whole area devoted to certifications on my blog! I recently just wrote a guide on the 7 best beginner certifications that you will find helpful! cybercareerschool.com/category/blogs/certifications/
@rinavelli
@rinavelli 3 жыл бұрын
Colin Kelly Thanks for responding!! Great, let me check those out!
@MalumFashEntertainment
@MalumFashEntertainment 3 жыл бұрын
@@rinavelli have you started?
@rinavelli
@rinavelli 3 жыл бұрын
@@MalumFashEntertainment nope. not yet. i’m currently in the process of moving. once i’m settled & get a new laptop, i will!
@jojo8292
@jojo8292 3 жыл бұрын
Had to skip the money portion cuz I’m gettin that TA!!! But overall great video, I think I will start with getting as associates in IT before fully committing to the cyber security route. Who knows I may develop a love for coding. But I’m more interested in setting up the networks, running the lines, and getting the equipment up and running and maintaining said equipment.
@jonitalia5596
@jonitalia5596 Жыл бұрын
You're idea is spot on. That is exactly what my counselor told me. If you want to get your feet wet, get an IT associates. From there he sais to then go for a bachelors in the another field, or do the same thing.
@gggsuave
@gggsuave Жыл бұрын
@@jonitalia5596 IT associates seems to broad is that a good degree? I get this vibe that a CS degree is superior and the rest aren't as good especially when it comes to the salary range.
@Bambotb
@Bambotb 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this..1year is enough that's great
@christinabehnke8739
@christinabehnke8739 2 жыл бұрын
Bad at acronyms too.. also feel the same toward the corps as you do college … I don’t regret it but wow what a wild ride … 3 yrs to go
@SecurityFWD
@SecurityFWD 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video!
@LayMyBurdenDown
@LayMyBurdenDown 2 жыл бұрын
Could have used a breakdown of the WGU method and comparing it to a traditional university program. With WGU you can get the certs while you work entry level, then transfer them in as credit toward your degree. You might get your BA cyber in a year depending on what you transfer in, and for less than 10k.
@taviowoods6272
@taviowoods6272 2 жыл бұрын
What is the WGU/ WGU method?
@alnejashi2297
@alnejashi2297 Жыл бұрын
@@taviowoods6272 Western governor University
@betancourt3075
@betancourt3075 3 жыл бұрын
Self Study here from genesis transitioned through various roles eventually into Info Sec (Enjoyed the journey, still have plenty to learn. easily spend a life time continuing to learn),... still went the college route so not having a degree doesn't preclude me from moving into leadership positions down the road.
@riasharma6744
@riasharma6744 2 жыл бұрын
Great vlog! Really helped me understand the importance of experience and skills over degree. I have recently taken up a CEH course at EC Council University out of passion and interest but now I am clueless on what course to take next to have a career in cyber security. Could you help me decode this? Thanks!
@fredadomako3981
@fredadomako3981 2 жыл бұрын
Invest in bootcamps
@vedant153
@vedant153 2 жыл бұрын
Ejpt cpent oscp
@cristiansolares2007
@cristiansolares2007 Жыл бұрын
I believe cyber security employers would want candidates to have a degree in the near future. The same thing happened with the programming job title. Back then you could have gotten a job just with certificates and proof of knowledge. Now it's very difficult to get into programming without a computer science degree.
@Eliminator5555
@Eliminator5555 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think there's a big difference in the value of an ABET accredited cyber security degree vs a degree from a university that doesn't have that accreditation, like Penn State? I'd be very curious to know your thoughts on the topic. In your case, Penn State's program is an NCAE institution, which means it's accredited by the NSA/DoD, as set out in their curriculum requirements. There are very few universities that have both the ABET and NCAE accreditations. A few of them are Southeast Missouri State University and Cedarville University in Ohio.
@user-ou9bd1oh7u
@user-ou9bd1oh7u 2 жыл бұрын
Starting ComputerNetworking/Cybersecurity in an NJ college and I plan on transferring to Penn State!
@OmarO_721
@OmarO_721 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. The degree I am perusing right now is in Computer Information Systems. My school does offer a specific Cybersecurity degree, but the CIS degree here offers four concentrations, and Cybersecurity is one of them. I’m really considering on doing it.
@johnjulian3590
@johnjulian3590 3 жыл бұрын
Im starting a BS in cyber security and feel like computer science would be better, and watching this video backed it up 100%
@ContractHacker
@ContractHacker 3 жыл бұрын
At the end of the day, both of these paths will get you to a great career. Pursue whichever is most interesting for you!
@douwehuysmans5959
@douwehuysmans5959 3 жыл бұрын
Just take the easiest Computer Science related degree you can get and focus on doing CTF's. Even more interesting is to focus on AI because AI based anomoly detection is the future of blue team
@1jmorrison
@1jmorrison 3 жыл бұрын
I have been in the cyber security for almost 15 years , You can absolutely get into the field without a degree in cyber security but make sure you get a degree. A computer science degree with security certifications will get you into the career a couple years After you start. The one thing that most people don’t tell you is without a degree, they will pay you dramatically less than a person who has a degree even if you are better then them. The knowledge can be the same no matter if you go the certification route but the money will not
@1jmorrison
@1jmorrison 3 жыл бұрын
It is also very hard to get a cyber security job out of college Unless you get a job at a big company and even when I land in my first job, it took me 2 to 3 years to get into the cyber security field, even with a masters degree in cyber security
@douwehuysmans5959
@douwehuysmans5959 3 жыл бұрын
@@1jmorrison I think it depends, you can easily get a job as a SOC analyst if you work at a big company of gov org they will Prob pay some certs for you
@janicewilliams100
@janicewilliams100 2 жыл бұрын
I am embarking into Cybersecurity after 15 years of owning my own business. I’m in an Introduction to Cybersecurity course at NC State University which leads into a full 10 month program. As an older person I appreciate your take on degree vs. no degree. I hear it’s possible to make it in this industry with a good solid foundation of knowledge and a couple important certifications. Thanks for putting out these You Tube videos. I’ve enjoyed following you.
@AmaraSoGolden
@AmaraSoGolden 2 жыл бұрын
How did the introduction course go @janice?
@JaniceWilliams-wd8wv
@JaniceWilliams-wd8wv 2 жыл бұрын
@@AmaraSoGolden Hi Thanks for asking. I loved the introductory course! Now I am trying to coordinate my schedule so I can have plenty of time to focus on the full program (10 months). I am also researching what position really appeals to me, so I can start working towards it, rather than trying to do it all and not have a focus. Where are you in this Cybersecurity industry?
@AmaraSoGolden
@AmaraSoGolden 2 жыл бұрын
@Janice Williams thanks for replying. I’m actually looking at the same 10 month program at NC. I have to previous I.T experience so I’m looking to take the December intro course. Do you know anyone who went the boot camp route and found a job. I don’t see many people speak about that.
@janicewilliams100
@janicewilliams100 2 жыл бұрын
@@AmaraSoGolden oh I am so excited for you. You will do great since you have IT experience. I too asked that question of who got work after the program and they only sited the same example in the literature about one man who had absolutely no experience but after hard work through the program now works as head of the department in a medical institution (not sure if it’s a hospital or not) I would be very curious what they tell you when you ask that question. Let me know.
@AmaraSoGolden
@AmaraSoGolden 2 жыл бұрын
@Janice Williams right cause that’s the deciding factor for me. But I just spoke to admission like a minute ago and registered for it. I hope I gain a lot from it.
@annielin2894
@annielin2894 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Colin I just subscribed to your channel; I have bachelor in business but I am over my 40's and I only had case management and analyst experience. What would you recommend to do to get a certificate quickly and spend not too much monies?
@nylahburns9767
@nylahburns9767 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on the courses you took and is coding necessary for cyber?
@mdsalman35
@mdsalman35 3 жыл бұрын
I am taking 3rd year diploma from college in Business Information System. My focus is on Info Sec, so I am gonna approach the non-traditional way. Hope I can get there soon.
@KingKongHitDaBong
@KingKongHitDaBong 3 жыл бұрын
what exactly is Business Information Systems? is it similar to management information systems, also is it more business or tech heavy?
@mdsalman35
@mdsalman35 3 жыл бұрын
@@KingKongHitDaBong It's BSc comes under computer science degree. As I am studying it part time, it looks like you work with both programming and business mixed. So it's helpful.
@jlgspaz13
@jlgspaz13 2 жыл бұрын
Bachelors degree in CS with 0 experience and I’m still starting my masters in CS next month. I’m sure I’ll regret it later but I’m having fun learning
@qzqx3047
@qzqx3047 2 жыл бұрын
I think you're either too young or have rich parents.
@jlgspaz13
@jlgspaz13 2 жыл бұрын
@@qzqx3047 Every word you just said was wrong. Lol
@qzqx3047
@qzqx3047 2 жыл бұрын
@@jlgspaz13 why not get some work experience before you go for your grad school? That’s what I would do.
@indirectthought8150
@indirectthought8150 2 жыл бұрын
@@qzqx3047 because it's his life, not yours
@imarealgloman9484
@imarealgloman9484 2 жыл бұрын
How come you think you will regret it ? I thought with computer science / cyber security etc and those degrees in the IT field you can make a lot financially ?
@rogernovrit7803
@rogernovrit7803 3 жыл бұрын
Currently going to school for information systems. Was thinking of continuing that while getting cyber security certs on the side. Do you think that is a decent way to go? I worry about limiting myself by just getting a cyber security degree.
@MunchyGordita
@MunchyGordita Жыл бұрын
Hi, 1 year later, did you end up deciding on what to do? I was thinking the same exact thing. How did it go for you?
@DemonNitrix
@DemonNitrix Жыл бұрын
hello can you answer above comment
@cmo2295
@cmo2295 Жыл бұрын
Hello I am a senior in highschool and was also interested in Information systems and also getting cybersecurity certs. Pls answer
@v.r.7726
@v.r.7726 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome camera :)
@va9if
@va9if 3 жыл бұрын
Fucking microphone
@teun9380
@teun9380 3 жыл бұрын
Which camera? :)
@va9if
@va9if 3 жыл бұрын
@KZbin Deleted my Other Account for Mean Comments yeah I've already said that. And bit scared from your name for my comment :/ (See it in all reply comments of that comment)
@nighttimestalker
@nighttimestalker 2 жыл бұрын
Currently about to get registered for an associate's degree in cyber security
@Siegefya
@Siegefya 5 ай бұрын
Third option, a lot of people miss Its the 2 year associates degrees at community colleges. Its a mix of the 2 you mentioned. Community college associates IT degrees (There is some I've seen that are like systems administrator+ cyber security etc community colleges usually have multiple IT degree paths including ones that transfer over to university level IT degee) are honestly probably the best way to get into IT, bachelors is I'd say the second best, self study certs isn't a good way to go anymore... maybe 5-10 years ago it was, but it's not now. Community college, many of those IT degrees there will set you up with the ability to get 6-8 certs in the 2 years you'll be there, ntm in your final year a lot of them have a co-op/internship class that will count as like 3 credits plus you get paid and work experience before you graduate 2 birds with one stone, where they literally set you up with an internship, make sure the community college has one of those classes if it doesn't, meh. So 2 year community college, 6-8 certs, final year Co-op/internship...its a great way to get into the industry imo. I'm gonna be honest, i don't think IT at the bachelor's level is worth it for most people, if you are gonna go technology bachelor's degree, I'd say CS, EE, or Computer Engineering. I really don't see IT, cyber security, information technology, Computer information systems, degrees at the bachelor's of level are worth as much as CS, CPE, or EE.
@jerome_ee6522
@jerome_ee6522 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a computer science student with an interest in Cyber Security. I think what I'm going to do is to put security in practice with my current software dev activities. Example I do django apps and I should practice defensive programming. This is the only path i know in my case.
@codycampbell1201
@codycampbell1201 9 ай бұрын
Hey Colin I got a question im just starting out I love your video this really was eye opening and helped me walk away with a good perspective. Would you recommend getting a computer science degree with a concentration in cybersecurity? Im a father of two and im restarting my life and my education in a manner of speaking. I want to go into this industry the right way. But I dont know how or where to start off. Im gonna go to school but I want to make sure I don't waist my own time in the process.
@carlton1587
@carlton1587 2 жыл бұрын
You did not waste my time, thank you!
@earlsandersjr.2023
@earlsandersjr.2023 3 жыл бұрын
Hi I'm interested in going to non-traditional way for cyber-security, for person that's just starting now would be most prudent way to begin?
@rolandcucicea6006
@rolandcucicea6006 3 жыл бұрын
check out Network Chuck on youtube, he talks extensively about self learning
@bsmiffy1689
@bsmiffy1689 3 жыл бұрын
Thoughts on the military route? Currently I'm getting a certificate from a bootcamp backed by my local uni (UCF), and after that I'm planning on going full time 4 years in the military, specifically for cyber security. Is this a viable option to get 4 years of industry experience, and how would it look on my job resume?
@kitchenmaster0927
@kitchenmaster0927 3 жыл бұрын
hell yes do it, because realistically no company is going to hire you just based off of you having certificates/ a bachelor's. If you go in and serve for four years while applying your knowledge in cybersecurity, your chances of getting hired by a reputable company increase tremendously. You must go through background checks and such to work for these companies, they have to trust you, military will look excellent on your resume, wishing you luck
@airflare7285
@airflare7285 2 жыл бұрын
@hawks2025 My plan as of right now is: during winter break, learn as much as I can about network, security, and how to ethically hack and code on Python. Then go to the Air Force recruiter, take the ASVAB and score high enough for Cyber Security (around that field). Then, hope that I get the job. Were about to go to war with China, pretty sure the military would like more bodies in cyber security.
@LITTLEROCK2517
@LITTLEROCK2517 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@jessebrucepinkman9353
@jessebrucepinkman9353 Жыл бұрын
You’d be sweeping the mp until 1800 til ur 1sausage tells u to fck off, please don’t
@thelatinarrow817
@thelatinarrow817 Жыл бұрын
Coming from hvac and construction, covid lung got me so I'm looking for a career that doesn't have as much wear and tear on my body, I Love hvac but cybersecurity seems to be calling my name, service and repairs while learning this will be interesting
@alexzander7143
@alexzander7143 3 жыл бұрын
Just in general glad you mentioned it, general education courses are so dumb and a huge time waster , it’s just a way for them to pump out more money out of you , like honestly without gen electives that’s like a good 1.5 + years shaved off whatever course you are taking or more if you didn’t get the credit . Only a select view doe make sense but still has nothing to do with what your taking🤦🏽‍♂️🙄
@jaysondumb
@jaysondumb 2 жыл бұрын
If you did go the certification route do you think the pay would be the same as a college degree or even close?
@frownless
@frownless 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video of a day and life as a cyber security consultant
@ContractHacker
@ContractHacker 3 жыл бұрын
I really want to do a day in the life style.. Unfortunately I have to respect the privacy of my employer and our clients. I still do want to share some basic information of what I do as a consultant on a daily basis, but I will need to find a better way to present that info while respecting my employer.
@cSharpIndonesia
@cSharpIndonesia 3 жыл бұрын
@@ContractHacker please do so if you have time later on :)
@manishbhattarai5451
@manishbhattarai5451 3 жыл бұрын
@@ContractHacker please please if you can. thx
@HowToCyber
@HowToCyber 3 жыл бұрын
You would not have had this opportunity at all if you hadn’t went to pen state to begin with. Especially since penstate actually makes sure that students have an internship before they graduate. Career fairs at penstate are really good as well, a lot of fortune 100 representatives usually go there. If you actually look at the stats of EY employees, you’ll notice that quite a lot of them are penstate grads.
@HowToCyber
@HowToCyber 3 жыл бұрын
Tbh big 4 are probably the biggest employer of penstate grads for their Technology Advisory departments.
@ContractHacker
@ContractHacker 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Aman, thanks for your comment. I am well aware of Penn State's reputation and that is a major factor why I chose to go there! As I said in the video, I'm very thankful I graduated from there. I do agree that this opens a lot of doors but I would have to disagree that I would not have had the opportunity at all if I hadn't went there. I am a firm believer that if you work hard enough no doors are closed. That said, it is absolutely a more difficult route. I don't want to come across as if I am saying that I "didn't need college" or anything like that. In this video I was attempting to present both sides and basically tell people that college isn't the only option.
@HowToCyber
@HowToCyber 3 жыл бұрын
@@ContractHacker oh no!!! I’m sorry if I came off rude! Yes everyone can definitely get anywhere they want to just takes more hard work.
@enriquev4040
@enriquev4040 3 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to get a job in the cyber security field if I obtain a bachelor degree in I.T.? My community college offers computer networking & CS, for a AAS. But he mentioned that PSU for example, won’t accept al my transfers credits, which will lead me to take the classes again. Any advice
@adamf.8564
@adamf.8564 2 жыл бұрын
I am at UMGC now and I have a minor for Cyber and a major for Systems Management in IT. Does this sound like a good match? Thanks. Great video thanks.
@kairajohnson9823
@kairajohnson9823 2 жыл бұрын
After watching these types of videos I have come to the conclusion that I will be doing both. I understand that I am not a self study person I need the traditional school route. I prefer to go to college and get my certifications on the side.
@jonitalia5596
@jonitalia5596 Жыл бұрын
That's what I am doing. My college offers certs prep classes too. It is towards the end of my degree but they are only two credit classes. I think I have the choice to choose between two of them. I am thinking security + and one more. Security + was based on recommendation.
@jannaalexandra8921
@jannaalexandra8921 3 жыл бұрын
your video quality is so good it's almost as if you're cgi or something.. i appreciate the video though thank you for the tips!!!
@RiZeLegiT
@RiZeLegiT 3 жыл бұрын
you’re pretty doe, js
@lorenzofigueroa9275
@lorenzofigueroa9275 Жыл бұрын
I really like your stand, very neutral. It may come out as rude but for some reason you start explaining something and in the middle you start adding points to your speech with a different tone so my attention goes there. But please don't take it as plain insult, I really liked your video. Cheers!
@AkumaNoKuma
@AkumaNoKuma 2 жыл бұрын
thank you!!!
@yusufdejene9456
@yusufdejene9456 3 жыл бұрын
Make video on how to became cyber security from scratch and reading material please
@sh0kwerm
@sh0kwerm 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Colin what are your thoughts in WGU cyber security degree ?
@boogzru11
@boogzru11 2 жыл бұрын
I just applied today I heard recommendations (western govern university)?
@mikeyp9894
@mikeyp9894 3 жыл бұрын
Colin, if I already have a BS in National Security should I get a second Bachelors degree in Cyber or just get my certifications only at SANS institute? TIA!
@raijin199
@raijin199 3 жыл бұрын
Dude go for certifications. Stop throwing money to college institutions. Watch video, pay for some resources online.
@marcellowheeler88
@marcellowheeler88 2 жыл бұрын
You have a degree. That box is checked. Get your certs and make some money. Don't waste money on another degree. Alot of employers just want to see that you have one.
@domsterish
@domsterish 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you bro
@ninjadarookie
@ninjadarookie 3 жыл бұрын
im at a fork in the road, i don't know whether to do cyber security or programming. I dont have a backround at all in it, and i would have to do a bootcamp.
@gadielsantiago8813
@gadielsantiago8813 Жыл бұрын
I'm looking into getting the college degree for the kind of work I'm aiming at it will help me a lot.
@vishaljuneja1206
@vishaljuneja1206 3 жыл бұрын
Please provide a link to your LinkedIn profile or résumé
@mjsept15
@mjsept15 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Collin ! What do you think about bootcamps ? ASU has a 6 month cyber security boot camp I was looking into
@tatiyanalafaye
@tatiyanalafaye 3 жыл бұрын
Have you done the Bootcamp and if you did has it been a good start?
@kevref1
@kevref1 3 жыл бұрын
I’m 39 and planning on doing an online school next year. The college I’m looking at has a BS in information technology with a minor in cyber security. They also have a BS in cyber security. I don’t know which route I should go with.
@corygoon87
@corygoon87 3 жыл бұрын
Same man! I’m 33 and looked into BS in Information Technologies, but my brother is going for Cyber Security and now I don’t know which to shoot for.
@Odykoko
@Odykoko 3 жыл бұрын
Information technology is a broader subject which cybersecurity is under. If I were you, I'll go with the former because it will let you be well grounded on a wider range of topics in the IT industry and will also prepare you for a wider range of opportunities.
@scottj672
@scottj672 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with the uselessness of Geology and such in degrees. Each state has a board that tries to decide what will make us all "well-rounded" after we graduate. My solution is to look into Associate degrees. You learn the nuts and bolts of a degree subject without all the fluff classes. You are in and out with a degree, which is more useful without the 3rd- and 4th-year management classes. If you want to be a manager, then transfer that degree to a 4-year program.
@masterhun
@masterhun 2 жыл бұрын
You have to do your own due diligence. Research, research, research. Talk to pros who are in the field you want to be a part of. Get the real dirt. Then make your own decision. And own it.
@naomiowen6566
@naomiowen6566 2 жыл бұрын
What do you think about the 10 month courses by colleges. CU Boulder has a cyber security bootcamp
@joytigautam8040
@joytigautam8040 3 жыл бұрын
Hey colin i dont know the basic of differnt languages in computer ..... so should i go for cyber security in bachlors..... would it be easy or tough
@nrod8077
@nrod8077 3 жыл бұрын
Wow ! He’s awesome ...He’s like a Chris Krebs Jr. !!! What online university you recommend for cyber security ???
@CC-dt6lt
@CC-dt6lt 3 жыл бұрын
Purdue university global
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