Is a Knife More Dangerous Than a Gun?

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hard2hurt

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@hard2hurt
@hard2hurt 2 жыл бұрын
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@horsefucker1866 2 жыл бұрын
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@stevenoconnor3256
@stevenoconnor3256 2 жыл бұрын
There are literal videos of guys that do the knife versus gun thing in real close quarters, 99% of the time you'll draw the knife first.
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@MWall711 2 жыл бұрын
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@bazwolf
@bazwolf 2 жыл бұрын
As someone with a degree that focuses on statistical analysis, I'm really glad you to took the time to talk about how often statistics are manipulated to fulfill a narrative. Too few are willing to do that.
@therandomdickhead5744
@therandomdickhead5744 2 жыл бұрын
All about the narrative. I would say nowadays but I guess it always has been.
@VisionFromAfar
@VisionFromAfar 2 жыл бұрын
"Figures don't lie, but liars can figure."
@Leftyotism
@Leftyotism 2 жыл бұрын
Also just looking at statistics is dumb to draw a conclusion, even if they were complete.
@Domitianvs
@Domitianvs 2 жыл бұрын
There's a Swedish saying that goes as follows: There are three different levels of lying. There's lying, there's bold-faced lying and then there's the worst lie of them all, and that's statistics.
@thetalantonx
@thetalantonx 2 жыл бұрын
@@Domitianvs Also said as "There are three kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics." (attributed to Mark Twain, who attributed it to Benjamin Disraeli)
@stinkygoat2686
@stinkygoat2686 2 жыл бұрын
"People tend to get really upset if you open a box with your gun" fucking killed me
@heretyk_1337
@heretyk_1337 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a knife guy, love them collect them, train with them, and even despite that- i know, which is more dangerous. Pure logic. There is a reason, why melee weapons lost their place on battlefields But as was said in video- knives are way more dangerous, than people realize- it's not any kind of dishonor, that guns are superior. Knives still have their place in arsenal
@glasius22
@glasius22 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah bro, guns are top dog and there's a very limited use for guns... Knives (Folding knives) are tools, you can food prep, make shelter, cut wood for fire, light said fire, and more with a knife... So short if you can, have both
@BlackMoridin
@BlackMoridin 2 жыл бұрын
I wanna know your thoughs on something. Cause i'm a "knives are scarier guy". I acknowledge that obviously guns are easier to deal damage with. So obviously i'd not be scared of a 5yo with a knife. Obviously i'd prefer a gun over a knife to face multiple opponents..... HOWEVER the third door..... I'm gonna add 1 bit of info. The door with the guy with the gun, is someone who's a trained marksman with 15 years active experience on the range... And the Knife guy has 15 years active experience training Kali... I'm taking my chances with the gun guy. I'll tell you why, i'm ASSUMING (i have no more info) that the gun guy won't be as comfortable in a close range scenario as I am. The knife guy will be. I agree with everything Mike said in the video, but I feel he's left this one thing unaddressed and that's the big one for me.
@heretyk_1337
@heretyk_1337 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlackMoridin so we agree pretty much. Knives and bayonets are exactly for this purpose: close, grappling range- even snipers would use them in such capacity, they wouldn't just try to bring their barret on target no matter what. Problem is getting to that range. If i see guy coming- i go for gun and tell him to fuck off. If he's charging in despite that- i pop two into him(this is of course oversimplification- situation is always fluid). But if he grapples with me already, took me by surprise, and i cannot bring gun online for whatever reason; be it him holding the barrel, it fell from my hands, we ended up on the ground, and it got squished between us- i'm going for a knife Better yet: if he has a gun, and i hold the barrel and go ham on his ass with my blade. I'd say that choosing between gun or knife is pretty easy- almost based on instinct- people kinda know where one should use what.
@dinamosflams
@dinamosflams 2 жыл бұрын
the primordial weapon for a soldier is his gun. the second is his smaller gun. the third STILL is a knife. guns are obviously more dangerous, to the point of being banned as tool specially when they are not emotional about them, but don't ever mess up with a knife.
@SLOCLMBR
@SLOCLMBR 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlackMoridin I feel like some folks are more afraid of being cut than they are afraid of being shot. Why? I think it has to do with how brutal and personal a knife attack would be; and how your brain perceives the concept.
@Jay-ho9io
@Jay-ho9io 2 жыл бұрын
"You would have to be truly intellectually dishonest..." Internet Guy: *"CHALLENGE ACCEPTED"*
@VonBizzleMMPR
@VonBizzleMMPR 2 жыл бұрын
Hold my more dangerous weapon…
@johnnyr701
@johnnyr701 2 жыл бұрын
It’s like any other weapon. It depends on the situation and on how well trained the person is using it. I’ve seen guys take down a cop using a knife, by the time the cop drew his gun the other guy was on him already and that was at 15 ft distance. Guns in general are more dangerous because of the distance you can use them but as the distance closes it gets more complicated…
@mrx2586
@mrx2586 2 жыл бұрын
Guns are more dangerous because gunshot wounds have much much higher mortality rates than stab wounds. The extra range is just an extra.
@Shutyourmouth20
@Shutyourmouth20 Жыл бұрын
Really depends on the gun.
@DavidHernandez-dk1zs
@DavidHernandez-dk1zs Жыл бұрын
For every one guy who manages to kill a cop with a knife, there are a handful of other guys who get shot and killed trying to do the same thing. If knives were so dangerous then police would be issued knives instead of firearms, police use guns because that’s the most effective ranged weapon ever invented up to this point. Maybe they will become obsolete when high powered lasers become a viable weapon option.
@_Tao__
@_Tao__ Жыл бұрын
​​@@DavidHernandez-dk1zsthis is one of the dumbest arguments I've ever seen
@gilgameshkingofheroes5903
@gilgameshkingofheroes5903 Жыл бұрын
Guns are more dangerous in all ranges. Cops would use knives otherwise. Guns do more and easier dangerous
@martialman12
@martialman12 2 жыл бұрын
It's like everyone forgot the common phrase, you don't bring knives to a gun fight. I don't want to be stabbed OR shot, but I feel I have way more of a chance against a knife than a gun. All a person with a gun has to do is back up and get out of my range and I can't even do anything to defend myself or disarm them. Even grappling a gun can go off and immediately rip through whatever part of my body the bullet hits. That doesn't take away from how dangerous a knife is, but c'mon you can't compare it to how lethal a gun is over a knife.
@ctdvargas
@ctdvargas 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. The unfortunate reality about knives is that they seem to be more deadly when used as surprise weapons of murder or assassination. Knives are quiet and require very little training. They are readily available to everyone. The "sowing machine" attack seems to be very hard to defend against and a slash or puncture to the throat is almost always lethal. Active self protection has dozens of videos of people getting knifed and seemingly unable to stop the attack. I would venture to say that not one of the attacks I saw on ASP could have been prevented by a pistol. By that I mean that a gun would have killed the assailant, but the victim would still have succumbed to their wounds.
@redrustyhill2
@redrustyhill2 2 жыл бұрын
@TopHatTimothy up close and personal there is very little you can do to defend against a knife, you will get cut. It isn't that difficult to grab a gun and render it useless
@mrx2586
@mrx2586 2 жыл бұрын
@@redrustyhill2 I promise you that you are wrong. I regularly train with people who would easily defend themselves if I tried to attack then with a knife - it would not matter how close I got. If I have a gun on the other hand any person is screwed. Also A knife to the throat is not "almost always lethal" I have read studies that show that the mortality rate for neck injuries is actually 3-6%
@mrx2586
@mrx2586 2 жыл бұрын
Ha ha Try using a knife against someone who is used to being violent after "a little training" your not gonna be able to do anything! Also A knife to the throat is not almost always lethal, I assume you just made that up. Studies have show the mortality rate is actually 3-6%
@Shutyourmouth20
@Shutyourmouth20 Жыл бұрын
It definitely is, especially if it’s already drawn. If your attacker has an automatic firearm that’s already drawn, it doesn’t matter how close you get, you aren’t doing anything.
@Shutyourmouth20
@Shutyourmouth20 Жыл бұрын
Even if that was true, that doesn’t make knives more dangerous. Danger is how much of a threat something poses to you. A gun is much more lethal, and much more versatile than a melee weapon.
@aaronhuang8425
@aaronhuang8425 2 жыл бұрын
You're generally correct. One factor you want to consider... at 25ft and under under conditions if your pistol is not yet drawn, the knife is deadlier. This has been tested and simulated many times. Unfortunately, this data has been manipulated by h2h defense instructors of the 90s.
@ArmchairViolence
@ArmchairViolence 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of "martial artists like to pretend they have The Secret™" argument throughout this video, and I'm so glad you actually brought it up! Knives can be more dangerous "in certain situations," but that's just the exception that proves the rule of guns being better.
@hard2hurt
@hard2hurt 2 жыл бұрын
I think some guys who are for the most part competent and knowledgeable still occasionally do it reflexively.
@duffpaddy3996
@duffpaddy3996 2 жыл бұрын
How many conflicts do occur at 10 feet distance or more where guns mostly win? I guess most situations are closer to arms length where it's really not clear what's better to be threatened with, even more for average Joe who is perhaps not trained in disarming bad guys
@TheLantzMann
@TheLantzMann 2 жыл бұрын
@@hard2hurt I think statistically more knife stabbings in the torso have the possibility to be more fatal than gun shot wounds. Johns Hopkins Medicine analysis of national trauma data shows that trauma patients were four times more likely to die from gunshot wounds and nearly nine times more likely to die from stab wounds before getting to a trauma center in 2014. But believe you are correct that a firearm is more dangerous than a knife
@Jay-ho9io
@Jay-ho9io 2 жыл бұрын
I think there's a media aspect as well? In movies we see somebody throw a knife, or a shuriken, or just poke somebody with a "fucking pencil" And they check out like a stomped on roach. The presentation of firearms however is often where the hero soaks up slightly more lead Then a kid at an all you can eat paint chip breakfast, and then spends an hour boning some consciously disposable female character after having put on an Olympic decathlon level combat performance. Which might lead people to feel a *little* skewed about things
@maxhensley1685
@maxhensley1685 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheLantzMann I don't have the data in front of me, but I suspect one of the factors there is, knives don't have limited ammo, and people who attack other people with knives will often stab people way more times than you'd think if you're imagining encounters based on movies or something. When someone attacks someone else with a gun, at most they'll empty the whole clip into them, usually not even that. But when someone attacks someone else with a knife, they're liable to keep on stabbing them until they stop feeling like the other person is a threat. And since it can take a pretty long time for blood loss to really take its toll, that can involve a whole lot of stabbing and cutting. A single shot from a 9mm handgun is probably more likely to kill you than a single stab from a knife. A couple rounds from a 9mm handgun are probably less likely to kill you than a couple dozen stab wounds.
@dido2881
@dido2881 2 жыл бұрын
Your logic is unquestionable. I remember a shopkeeper telling me that in case of robbery he was more afraid of knives than guns because, he said, the guy with a knife is more prone to use it than a gun. He also was speaking for the shopkeepers category. This was in Reno. Maybe it could be the case for the average let’s say “meek” person. Or, it was a Reno thing.
@jaykwonzzz
@jaykwonzzz 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Reno. That's not a Reno thing.
@beentheredonethat5908
@beentheredonethat5908 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeice13 Not exactly, knives don't usually kill people with one stab, they have quite a ling period, unless they panic, to fight, scratch and scream.
@uncreativename9936
@uncreativename9936 2 жыл бұрын
I can kind of see the logic in that. A lot of times criminals will use firearms that are not operable for one reason or another, just to use for intimidation. Whereas any knife is likely to be sharp enough to cut or stab. This is more speculative, but I can also see more "professional" criminals preferring knifes to guns. One they're much cheaper and easier to acquire and have less of a paper trail as they're not serialized and such. Second, as someone else mentioned, if used aren't loud like a gun, firing a gun in city limits is pretty much automatically going to get the cops called (some cities like Chicago even have sensors on street corners that listen for gunshots and automatically report them). I can see a victim being more likely to succumb to a knife wound with the caveat that they don't have the wherewithal to quickly call 911 and thus no one else does since a knife was used instead of a gun.
@brucewayneissupermanquinn601
@brucewayneissupermanquinn601 2 жыл бұрын
You’re really well spoken, Mike. As a teacher, you’ve got a knack for breaking down larger concepts into understandable bits.
@PowerToast
@PowerToast 2 жыл бұрын
Your observation at the end tracks with my experience with people telling me knives are more dangerous than firearms. One was an ex military/police guy, and when I asked for his rationale, he just talked to me about how quickly someone can close on you with a knife, how you don't have as much distance as you think you do to defend yourself with a pistol vs. a knife, how much damage the knife can do, how you can't really use your arms to guard against a knife because you'll just get split open ('your forearm will open up like a hot dog cut down the center', he said), etc. etc. etc. In hindsight, he never made any comparisons to the gun at all, and so never really made the point that knives are more dangerous - just that they are horrifyingly effective weapons and that even 20 yards might not be enough distance if you hesitate or if you're slow with your pistol. Still, insisting that the knife is more dangerous did at least lead me to respect knives a lot more. Maybe that was his goal?
@jg3000
@jg3000 Жыл бұрын
The sneaky knife is far more dangerous than a gun.
@EricK-tb2dn
@EricK-tb2dn Жыл бұрын
I've talked to ER nurses and I'd agree the gun in more dangerous but they said knife wounds especially serrated are incredibly hard to stop/repair. I have a gut hook knife and I'd rather take a bullet than an in and out with my knife.
@spencerlang3908
@spencerlang3908 2 жыл бұрын
Someone I know from work gave me a perspective that I use with every weapon. Every weapon has its effective range, and it's ineffective range. An example would be that rifles are great at hitting targets at a distance but suck at concealment. Pistols work well for close range bit you will have a hard time hitting a target at 100 yards.
@fatandy63
@fatandy63 Жыл бұрын
Fairbairn 20 yrs Shanghai Municipal Police documented 600 non training fights felt that 1 hr of instruction w a knife someone effective. 2-2.5 yrs training to be effective w a pistol. I realize I’ve sidestepped the issue of dangerous. That 600 non training fights in 20 yrs still is anecdotal.
@cgsimons1187
@cgsimons1187 2 жыл бұрын
This is correct for the most part. When I think about my primary focus on weapons, knives have taken a back seat because I intuitively knew that guns are more effective for defense. I would consider that for some instances a knife might be handier. Such as if an attacker snuck up on you from behind and placed you in a choke hold. The blade may be easier to target that arm that is around your neck. Whereas a gun would be less ideal since a bullet could easily punch through their arm and continue on into your neck. Plus, the rest of their body would be difficult to impossible to see and safely aim at.
@ctdvargas
@ctdvargas 2 жыл бұрын
this is a smart comment!
@factartpdt6404
@factartpdt6404 2 жыл бұрын
yeah and he did address those situation where a knife has an advantage, but with the 3 question that he asked, would you still pick a knife for self defense?
@cgsimons1187
@cgsimons1187 2 жыл бұрын
@@factartpdt6404 In most situations I'd prefer a weapon that provides some distance between myself and the attacker. Though I would also prefer to have another option within reach in case my primary choice fails to operate or solve the problem.
@christianboehlefeld5168
@christianboehlefeld5168 2 жыл бұрын
@115madmax Except that he said 'handier' and not 'more dangerous'. The point of the example is that not all situations are the same and require different approaches to resolve. In the this scenario the knife is used to get clear of the immediate threat, nothing is said that you can't then create some distance and draw a gun, just that the gun might not be as effective initially at getting out of the hold.
@Shutyourmouth20
@Shutyourmouth20 Жыл бұрын
@115madmax How exactly? He remained neutral during the argument, and what he is saying is true. Guns are more lethal and effective in general while knives are better for close quarters combat, such as if someone has no weapon but is attacking you.
@SchmokinJoe
@SchmokinJoe 2 жыл бұрын
That's a good title: _"No, Seriously, Knives Are REALLY Dangerous. You Don't Realize How Fast It Can Happen... People Underestimate Knives."_
@BlackMetalWorld
@BlackMetalWorld 2 жыл бұрын
Id like to see a video where instead of wrestling over just a gun or knife, both things are involved in the fight. For example attacking person tries to wrestle gun, defending person tries to reach for knife to retain gun. Something like that would be interesting to see.
@BMO_Creative
@BMO_Creative 2 жыл бұрын
Most dangerous weapon: a gun that shoots knives... Krav Maga knives. LOL
@CIAG4PNP
@CIAG4PNP 2 жыл бұрын
Every weapon has its place. Depends on situation! And also depends on training! I fool can pick up both and fail, where a well trained individual can pick up the right tool for the situation and Secceed!
@omarmonoruiz
@omarmonoruiz 2 жыл бұрын
no actually they dont. guns have no place
@christianc.christian5025
@christianc.christian5025 2 жыл бұрын
@@omarmonoruiz I mean, against an armed attacker who has a firearm? You probably want one of your own. Forget about the nonsensical myth of the “armed hit-squad of urban youths breaking into your home to rape and murder your family” bullshit. But in America, something that is *very* real? Police violence at political events. If you are protesting some political issue - *especially* police violence - there is a reason why the police “permit” certain groups to demonstrate while attacking, pepper-spraying, arresting and even killing members of the other groups: if the demonstrators are armed, they’re more likely to be left alone. So, long story long: firearms have their place if you live in an authoritarian country like, say, the United States.
@omarmonoruiz
@omarmonoruiz 2 жыл бұрын
@@christianc.christian5025 civil deaths by firearms US : 12209999. Deaths by firearms world: 3
@redrustyhill2
@redrustyhill2 2 жыл бұрын
Depends on the situation. I carry both. Someone closer than 20 feet with knife in hand will be on me before I can get a shot off, if my firearm is holstered, in which case the best strategy is create some distance quickly.
@sharp1162
@sharp1162 2 жыл бұрын
I'm train hand to hand with a knife as a hobby. I train with my firearm for self defense. Having said that, both have their place in self defense. A knife creates space, and firearm maintains the space.
@greysenpurdy2089
@greysenpurdy2089 2 жыл бұрын
Knives are cool. But I feel like a lot of what you can do with a knife you can do with your bare hands. One can create space using some basic boxing training.
@duffpaddy3996
@duffpaddy3996 2 жыл бұрын
@@greysenpurdy2089 space created by a slashed forearm lasts a bit longer than space created by some broken fingers or so
@smolsnek3835
@smolsnek3835 2 жыл бұрын
@@greysenpurdy2089 a knife lets u attack every surface with less force though
@alexandrenedellec7116
@alexandrenedellec7116 2 жыл бұрын
@@greysenpurdy2089 the difference IS you Can be like scoring point with a knife as it IS sharp and don't need force where a hit need a minimum of force imho
@redrustyhill2
@redrustyhill2 2 жыл бұрын
@@greysenpurdy2089 you "feel"? 🤣🤣🤣 Fists can't cause your opponents guts to fall on the floor. Hands can't make a slice that causes someone to bleed out in a minute.
@CaptJaipreetJoshi
@CaptJaipreetJoshi Жыл бұрын
Well I agree to disagree with you Mike. I do not know what is the criteria or definition of 'more dangerous' her but being an ex Army Officer and a Combat and Self Defence Trainer who has adequate knowledge of fire arms and sharp edged weapons I would like to say that I find knives more dangerous for 3 simple reasons - 1. Its deployment is more gore than a bullet wound 2. Its intensity can be controlled - stab , slash , sever but a bullet will do a damage its designed to 3. No stoppages whatsover but a firearm may jam , misfire or run out of bullets. Well there are more but these are the conspicuous ones. But I agree that a fire arm has range and ease of deployment .
@RobKinneySouthpaw
@RobKinneySouthpaw 2 жыл бұрын
You might be able to argue that a knife is maybe more likely to cause injury I any given fight, but any single gunshot has the potential to do waaay more damage. I don't know anyone who can shatter a pelvis with a knife. So if you lump minor injury in with life threatening injury....well there's that trouble about statistics again
@christianc.christian5025
@christianc.christian5025 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I keep thinking about circumstances like the weapons being in the hands of a total novice. And I suppose if you count the safety features and the mechanisms of using a firearm against just an unsheathed knife with any kind of sharp edge?… I don’t know why else people would say this, apart from what Mike is saying here about someone using a strictly intuitive process.
@jatbatman
@jatbatman 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, but you can shatter the pelvis with blunt force, so a baseball bat is way more dangerous. 😂😂😂😂
@redrustyhill2
@redrustyhill2 2 жыл бұрын
It's quite easy to make someone's guts fall on the floor with a knife. I know someone who had to do that. No need to break their pelvis. Also One slash in the right spot with a sharp blade and a person is dead in a minute.
@jatbatman
@jatbatman 2 жыл бұрын
@@redrustyhill2 yep... evisceration is a hell of a dangerous outcome.
@Robert-ng5zp
@Robert-ng5zp 2 жыл бұрын
I have heard this before multiple times, from quite a few martial arts and self defense instructors. The most common reason given for this idea is the situation and the attacker's intention to use the weapon or not. The general idea being that someone with a gun is MORE LIKELY to have it for intimidation factor vs actually being willing to use it (compared to someone threatening with a knife). Someone with a knife will likely be in a lot closer, and more willing and mentally prepared to risk a fight vs feeling safer at a distance to order someone around. The argument is usually not so much about a knife being more dangerous, but more that someone with a knife is usually more willing to use it then someone with a gun. To support this argument, I have even heard someone say that the noise of a gunshot drawing attention may make someone more hesitant to actually shoot compared to cutting someone with a knife. I am sure you will have fun taking that explanation apart. Another theory that I have, based on a few instructors I have talked to over the years, is that some of this idea comes from military or related situations. One of the instructors I asked about this referenced when he served in WWII. They would hear stories about Japanese soldiers attacking with swords and knives. A similar thing came up with several instructors who served in Vietnam (or had a dad/uncle who did), and heard stories about night raids with knives, and other stories or first hand experiences. One of the instructors I spoke to said he had heard a similar thing from an instructor of his who either served in WWI (or his parent had). They had heard horror stories about trench warfare hand to hand fighting with knives, shovels, bayonets, etc. I don't remember for sure if any of the instructors I spoke with had firsthand experience on the battlefield with knife fighting, vs hearing stories that were enough to influence their opinions. Assuming this is the origin of the idea, the story has changed with multiple retellings since it's origin to the versions many instructors now pass on to their students. Yet another theory someone suggested to me once was that Hollywood was to blame. Would you be more worried about mugger with a gun or a real life Michael Myers?
@Robert-ng5zp
@Robert-ng5zp 2 жыл бұрын
Someone could also be thinking of all the superficial cuts that can quickly occur when fighting for control of a knife, vs a perfectly executed gun disarm practiced in the dojo. I have seen plenty of classes stress testing knife disarms with chalk knives, but never stress testing gun disarms.
@Nobody32990
@Nobody32990 2 жыл бұрын
@@Robert-ng5zp i would add to all listed the THEORY that knives are considered more dangerous because of how relatively nastier the wounds can be compared to shot wound and how easily can they occure.
@mrx2586
@mrx2586 Жыл бұрын
@@Nobody32990 but gun wounds are far nastier and cause far more damage.
@roBLINDhood
@roBLINDhood 2 жыл бұрын
I love that style of belt and will never go back! Personally I wear the Nexbelt Appendix which I like because it uses a button instead of a little lever which I find MUCH easier to adjust.
@bmafirebirdstudios
@bmafirebirdstudios 2 жыл бұрын
The argument is nonsensical, the weapon matters, but who's holding it matter more. I know quite a few operators who would argue the point, but I'm pro "what ever tool suits the situation."
@scaleworksRC
@scaleworksRC 2 жыл бұрын
Kore belts are great, but the "leather" they use does not hold up to metal clips over time. You need the sleeve if there is any rubbing or rough edges. They hooked me up with another belt and a free sleeve after I had issues, so they made it right. Well worth the money I'd say.
@williamle-ed2nk
@williamle-ed2nk 2 жыл бұрын
I don't remember the last time I used my Kore Essentials belts. I wear belts with the buckle offset over my hip causing the release lever to dig in to it. I could orient the buckle at 12 o'clock like a normal person, but it adds too much bulk in front for me while carrying AIWB. Love the ratcheting system, hate the release lever with AIWB. I might give them another try with their battle belt. I don't offset the buckle with those, so it shouldn't be a problem for me.
@Liberty-rn4wy
@Liberty-rn4wy 2 жыл бұрын
PROS: KNIFE: - no permit required - can take almost anywhere - no bystander-hit problem - no need to buy ammo - won't run out of ammo or jam GUN: - THE fighting "tool" - Multiple shots without being in close contact - Distance - Good against multiple attackers - Good against other guns and weapons - will penetrate doors, barriers, etc. NEGATIVES: KNIFE: - Has an "assassin" vibe - Can't hit at distance - Could be dull - Could stick in and you can't get it out - Could result in him drawing a gun GUN: - Permit required, hassle to take with - need ammo and practice - Can jam (limp-wristing possible even on a Glock) - bullet, once fired, can hit innocent people at long distances
@formoney5255
@formoney5255 2 жыл бұрын
I think its probably easier and more common to ACCIDENTLY injure yourself with a knife simply because there is such a high emphasis on gun safety, whereas knife safety is kinda just "don't cut yourself", so i think regarding personal injury to yourself by accident just laying around your house a knife is more dangerous. I mean, i think everyone has cut themselves by accident at least once, I have a few times, and my only gun related injury is a blood blister from assembling a 1911 and getting pinched. If we are talking about lethality, a gun is scientifically more dangerous because in addition to putting something in your body, it also transmits a lot of ENERGY into your body, witch creates additional wounds channels; you can see this when people shoot ballistics gel. Also, I think FBI crime reporting stats are most accurate for number of victims attributed to a weapon, and guns win out by a large margin.
@roofdogblues7400
@roofdogblues7400 2 жыл бұрын
People kill themselves in gun related accidents far more, whereas people injure themselves in knife related accidents far more. Never heard of anyone dying from a knife related accident, heard lots of kids and adults kill themselves in gun related accidents.
@CaneFu
@CaneFu 2 жыл бұрын
Oh this one is so easy............ 1) Using the phrase "more dangerous" is meaningless so let's replace it with "more effective for self defense". 2) If someone is attacking me from a distance then I want to have my gun already out and aimed at them (if justified). 3) If someone is attacking from very close range or has already grabbed a hold of me I'm sure not going to pull my gun out so they can grab the barrel and wrestle it away from me, I pull my knife out because it is impossible for them to grab and use against me, and they are welcome to grab the blade :) 4) Now, having said all that if I am confronted with either weapon and I'm not armed then the old rule applies.... --- I run from a knife and charge a gun. I cannot outrun a bullet but I can outrun getting stabbed.
@MrFalk358
@MrFalk358 2 жыл бұрын
I think what also goes into the argument of the knife being more "dangerous" (playing devils advocate here), is how easily obtainable knives are. You Literally just have to walk into a kitchen to get one.
@ongridself-reliantfamily1751
@ongridself-reliantfamily1751 2 жыл бұрын
I would say your very last line sums it up well. What I think those experts were trying to communicate is that the lethality to fear ratio of knives is higher than guns. Guns are scary and kill people, but knives are way less scary and kill lots of people too. In that vein, I would say that guns have a stronger gut reaction deterrence to bad guys than knives do. So if you factor in deterrence, it looks like this: knives have low deterrence, because they have less fear, but fairly high lethality. Guns have stronger deterrence, because of more fear, so less likely to have to actually use it lethally, and so they end up being "less dangerous" in some sense. Also that knives are very easy to conceal up until the point that they are cutting people. It is hard to shoot a gun in a way that someone doesn't see it coming, I think it is much easier to knife someone where they don't see it coming until it is too late. Also, how many times have you seen someone survive after getting shot and thought, wow, I thought they were going to die; versus how many people have you seen die from a knife wound, where you thought they would just go to the hospital, get patched up and be fine? After watching the Active Self Protection YT channel for a while, it is a surprising number of both of those.
@jeffboone7959
@jeffboone7959 2 жыл бұрын
Knives are more dangerous than guns. Unless the gun has bullets in it.
@connerkubitz7208
@connerkubitz7208 2 жыл бұрын
"people get upset when you open boxes with a gun" TEXAS DISAGREES
@Sodium_Jones
@Sodium_Jones 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with everything you said. I have to make a small statement though. I've always heard a knife is more dangerous in an untrained hand than a gun in am untrained hand. I would be curious about your thoughts on that.
@venomsabre2696
@venomsabre2696 2 жыл бұрын
Ask anybody if they own a gun or a knife and, excluding a few Americans, a lot more people own knives than guns. Knives are way more accessible than a gun, think your kitchen, office, workplace, resturant ect. Like you said, you would cut a box with a knife rather than a gun, but you can also cut a box with scissors or any sharp pointy object. Guns are way more effective and way more dangerous than a knife in a lot more circumstances but it's easier for me to get a knife than a gun in nearly every circumstance. Great video as usual.
@dcard228
@dcard228 2 жыл бұрын
As with everything, it depends and it's situational. "Dangerous" isn't the same as "deadly". Knives are more "dangerous" because more people have access to them and they're easier to use with no training, guns are more "deadly" because they'll kill you easier.
@TheUncleRuckus
@TheUncleRuckus 2 жыл бұрын
👏👏
@kthomas8688
@kthomas8688 2 жыл бұрын
Wait wait wait you think it's harder to point and squeeze to injure or kill someone with a gun. Then most probably have to wrestle and strike with a knife and also close distance.
@dcard228
@dcard228 2 жыл бұрын
@@kthomas8688 pointing a gun and pulling the trigger is intuitive enough that anyone can do it, but most people would be absolutely fucked in a knife attack
@justingamer1213
@justingamer1213 2 жыл бұрын
And it depends too what do you count as a knife a well made machete for example will do vastly more damage than say a glock. But a glock will do more damage than a exacto knife
@justingamer1213
@justingamer1213 2 жыл бұрын
K Thomas at a close distance a knife is more handy
@moreparrotsmoredereks2275
@moreparrotsmoredereks2275 2 жыл бұрын
I have a topic I've never heard anyone discuss, but might be worth talking about. Some people like to say "Semiautos are unreliable, use a revolver because it doesn't jam." When talking about good quality modern semiautos on the range, obviously that's nonsense. But, in the context of wrestling for a firearm and trying to use it at contact distance, there might be some truth to it. Semiautos can jam pretty easily when you're wrestling over them, but I think it would be a lot harder for that to happen with a revolver. You could still cause it by blocking the hammer or maybe grabbing the cylinder really tightly, but both of those can be fixed simply by breaking the attacker's grip and pulling the trigger again, without the need to rack the slide. I'm planning on running some tests on it myself, but I think it's probably a point worth discussing in a video.
@Jamoni1
@Jamoni1 2 жыл бұрын
Having done a lot of grappling training with semi autos, they definitely jam, usually because someone's hand or body fouls the slide. A hammerless revolver would definitely reduce that, but, you know, 6 rounds. I train tap the mag by butt stroking them 3 or 4 times, then punch them with the barrel and rack it on the way back. Or, with a red dot, you can just drive it along their face to rack it. If one set of corrective action doesn't get me a bang, I use it like a club or transition to blade.
@Jazzman-bj9fq
@Jazzman-bj9fq 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's a pretty silly debate just like many others related to the same subject. I think what's more pertinent though is if you're self-defense minded and training, think through what it is you're more likely to face where you live and consult whatever data you can find. As far as the actual question though, I agree with your assessment. ANY person, regardless of age, build, sex with a gun is potentially lethal however the same cannot be said for the knife... If I had to face an 80 year old woman with a gun, yeah I'm gonna be worried but if she had a knife, I'm pretty sure I can handle that one if I had to. The truth is, the stuff that is statistically more dangerous that can cause death and injury meaning what you most likely would face is simply what most people have available to them. Same goes for the debate on 'what pistol caliber causes the highest death rate?' It's simply going to be what people use and have available, doesn't mean one is superior it just means there are more data points for one over the others.
@aegisprotection4969
@aegisprotection4969 2 жыл бұрын
John Hopkins medical data and Johannesburg medical data is people are something like 5 times more likely to survive knife injuries.
@Jazzman-bj9fq
@Jazzman-bj9fq 2 жыл бұрын
@@aegisprotection4969 It would be interesting to know how many gunshot victims they counted as opposed to knife victims. My guess is that quite a few more ppl are victims of the knife as opposed to gun.
@misterkaos.357
@misterkaos.357 2 жыл бұрын
Long story short, the comparison is purely situational. Weapons are designed for specific situations favoring their use. To say one is definitively deadlier than another is pointless. Sure a 50 cal rifle is quite deadly, but a knife would be deadlier in an arm's reach fight simply because you couldn't aim a long rifle at someone two feet in front of you.
@littlefoot7383
@littlefoot7383 2 жыл бұрын
Just watched your video on the core essentials knife and belt: In that video you say that you like using a knife similarly to how you punch, which leads me to wonder what your thoughts on push daggers for self defense are. I personally don't have any, but I have considered buying some for self defense since I already know how to punch. Thank you for your time. I hope you and yours have a lovely day.
@jimmygreenspan8832
@jimmygreenspan8832 2 жыл бұрын
Snot the worst idea I've ever heard. If they fit right into your fist, then yeah that could augment your punching damage. Much like brass knuckles do.
@williamle-ed2nk
@williamle-ed2nk 2 жыл бұрын
They are good to go in my book. Make sure they are legal to own and carry where you live. Two that I can recommend, among many, are the Low Viz Pro from Regiment Blades (formerly Colonel Blades) and Shivworks Push Dagger. I prefer the Low Viz Pro a bit more because it works better for me when paired with a handgun. Find what works for you and train deliberately with it.
@yamchayaku
@yamchayaku Жыл бұрын
As a gun owner, yes in close quarters a knife is more dangerous than a gun. The gun will always be more difficult to use in closed spaces. The guy knife would already do a lot of damage on you before you manage to get your gun into a position to fire. Also, the unless the gun holder is a veteran that has seen combat or a murderer that has a lot of victims, it's not often that the holder will see instances where they will actually use the gun in a fight. And chances are, the adrenaline will be pumping so hard that they won't be able to aim and fire it properly. Guns are designed to kill from a distance. They're not designed for close combat. Whoever thinks otherwise has been watching too many Gun Kata movies
@charlieredfern9148
@charlieredfern9148 2 жыл бұрын
As a person who lives in a country with gun control laws, it's silly to me to think that people actually think knives are deadlier. In my country, we have a fair amount of knife violence and it is almost never lethal. however, when there is gun violence it always ends in death.
@ricksterdrummer2170
@ricksterdrummer2170 2 жыл бұрын
You took the words out of my mouth 👏
@juanmejiagomez5514
@juanmejiagomez5514 2 жыл бұрын
Are you British?
@gigachad6885
@gigachad6885 2 жыл бұрын
Are you from Londonistan ?
@charlieredfern9148
@charlieredfern9148 2 жыл бұрын
@@gigachad6885 I am Aussie
@charlieredfern9148
@charlieredfern9148 2 жыл бұрын
@@JM-zz3vs Litteraly
@tristanyokom1542
@tristanyokom1542 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you on having both. I do find that in grappling situations (from my experience full force sparring) with gun and knife from concealment that the knife ends up being the weapon that gets deployed and fought over. I carry a retention knife at 9, gun appendix, and assisted opening pocket knife in my strong side pocket (for general use, but I do encorporate it in training). I find having the retention knife at 9 works best for me in sparring, as does appendix for the gun
@Noadvantage246
@Noadvantage246 2 жыл бұрын
Another thing ppl don't consider is a knife may be a bit easier the retain and hurt someone with in an entangled struggle, but it's MUCH harder to effectively use. To get a knife to really deeply cut or stab someone in a vital area comes down to being both more skilled AND quite a bit stronger, AND having more stamina than your attacker. Vs a gun the only thing you need to do is get the muzzle pointing at any part of their torso or face and its game over.
@tristanyokom1542
@tristanyokom1542 2 жыл бұрын
@@Noadvantage246 Yeah, grappling with them is really hard, because you can't focus too much on the gun or they get the knife and if they get the knife out you have to fight over the knife and the gun. The knife really only works so well imo cause it splits the attention, and as Icy Mike always says you gotta be good on the ground for any of it to work
@BaeBox
@BaeBox 2 жыл бұрын
@knives don't jam: knives can be deceptivly bad cutting through certain fibre. people in the "middle ages", where knives and knive-like objects (swords) were commonplace, would use several layers of fibre or thick leather to protect themselves from cuts (in war. when they couldn't afford chainmail). swords were dangereous because they are very good at stabbing people while still heavy enough to slice off arms or legs - and they were sidearms. A 5cm knife needs to be navigated to least-protected high-effect-areas on the body very carefully and that requires higher brain functions, mid-fight. also, the blade design makes some knives really bad at stabbing, h2h's knife for example will have problems stabbing someone in the belly when they wear more than a t-shirt - the blade requires the front edge of the blade to actually cut through material. any dagger from any time period ever, that was designed to stab someone, specifically uses a very pointy blade, usually symmetrical (because the kinetic energy is then concentrated on the centre-line where the point is)
@royalecrafts6252
@royalecrafts6252 2 жыл бұрын
Some middle asian empires used shields with various fibers together in the edge to dull blades and makes cutting tool innefective, stabbing is another story tho
@redactedcanceledcensored6890
@redactedcanceledcensored6890 2 жыл бұрын
11:55 being attacked, deploying the knife properly and then suddenly wussing out about leaking the attacker is not the best way to go... and I know from experience that under stress like this you behave unexpectedly, you may think you can do something but nah
@Chagorthebarbarian
@Chagorthebarbarian 2 жыл бұрын
"Don't bring a knife to a gun fight" sums it up pretty well.
@fingolfin9086
@fingolfin9086 2 жыл бұрын
Lol very true, never heard anyone say it backwards.
@aegisprotection4969
@aegisprotection4969 2 жыл бұрын
Don't take advice from an aphorism or soundbite. :)
@CADClicker
@CADClicker 2 жыл бұрын
@@aegisprotection4969 better than some random in youtube comments
@aegisprotection4969
@aegisprotection4969 2 жыл бұрын
@@CADClicker I did an essay. That compared and contrasted sayings. Pretty much, for every cool saying, there is another cool saying that says the exact opposite.
@aegisprotection4969
@aegisprotection4969 2 жыл бұрын
@@CADClicker To give examples of common quotes: Sieze the day is what Brutus said before losing a battle. Cowards die... is what Julius Caesar said before getting assassinated.
@MyFriendsAreElectric
@MyFriendsAreElectric 2 жыл бұрын
As Matt Easton might say: CONTEXT. Of course guns are highly dangerous... As long as they have bullets. When empty, they're a weird shaped club. Still dangerous.
@frankmenchaca9993
@frankmenchaca9993 2 жыл бұрын
I have watched many of your videos and I don't believe you've ever done one on blackjacks/saps. There many different styles and sizes going back to the Victorian era; a number of soldiers carried them in the trenches of WW1. Also, what are the legal issues regarding this weapon?
@smolsnek3835
@smolsnek3835 2 жыл бұрын
Disregard legality. Your life is worth far more. You're of an infinite creator, a divine being with an infinite potential, and are born truly free. You're no pet to be controlled 💚
@beowulfshaeffer8444
@beowulfshaeffer8444 2 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of specific mentions of blackjacks, saps, and slungshots in weapons laws. Most of these are a moot point in areas with constitutional carry laws, or with regards to most concealed weapon licenses. I have also noticed a lot less enforcement of these restrictions when the weapon is instead called a "monkey's fist keychain," a "lead loaded leather pendant," a "coin purse with a wrist strap," or some other alternate name. You'll ultimately need to research laws (and probably case law) in your locale to determine if carrying such things has any potential legal repercussion, but you likely have some options.
@Zamotak
@Zamotak 25 күн бұрын
I have had the displeasure of being shot at and having someone come at me with an edged weapon. While being shot at definitely sucked especially being unarmed at the time my stress level wasnt as high as when someone came at me with a edged weapon. Ive seen people shot and have seen alot of people get stabbed with edged weapons (I worked in my States DOC for years) knives attacks from a determined subject are absolutely brutal. Almost anyone can shoot someone with proper training. But It takes a certain mentality to try to put down someone using a knife. Each one has its usecase. Every situation is different. There is no clear cut winner for every situation.
@steveperks7054
@steveperks7054 2 жыл бұрын
Icy Mike: "Why not have both?" Me: "Hmm... ok. Fix Bayonets!!"
@nickjenkins1663
@nickjenkins1663 8 ай бұрын
well that's 14 minutes of time i can never get back.
@zebrashark_talks
@zebrashark_talks 2 жыл бұрын
i'm more dangerous than a gun
@kylekrasilikovs
@kylekrasilikovs 2 жыл бұрын
check out DEEZ gunZ (double biceps)
@franzneubauer6877
@franzneubauer6877 2 жыл бұрын
U must be a knife then
@PaladinJackal
@PaladinJackal 2 жыл бұрын
10:28 yeah even up close. Seals aren't clearing rooms seeing how small the next spot is and just pulling out a knife and putting their gun away lol
@RobKinneySouthpaw
@RobKinneySouthpaw 2 жыл бұрын
Never heard of a toddler killing someone accidentally with a knife. Gun yes. Adult vs adult probably different context Edit: you made the same point. Just had to watch longer.
@thormenucci
@thormenucci 2 жыл бұрын
I´ve heard of toddlers killing themselves with a knife accidentally and with keys and other metal tools
@PhonzyNyan
@PhonzyNyan 2 жыл бұрын
A unloaded gun can't shoot. But a knife will always stay sharp.
@informedcitizen8687
@informedcitizen8687 2 жыл бұрын
A knife combined with a fork has caused more deaths than a gun ever will.
@IH8Sprinkles
@IH8Sprinkles 2 жыл бұрын
Best comment ever
@longjunior7638
@longjunior7638 2 жыл бұрын
Gun: quick death! Knife: more gory and brutal
@alexshtyn6336
@alexshtyn6336 2 жыл бұрын
You need a considerable level of skill to be effective with a knife a gun is a much simpler tool to use effectively.
@redclayscholar620
@redclayscholar620 2 жыл бұрын
@@dragonballjiujitsu I've yet to see someone untrained do more than slash with a knife. A pistol however is so easy a dumb teenager can use it... and they do to much greater effect.
@slipjointyjan548
@slipjointyjan548 2 жыл бұрын
Some people might be coming from the viewpoint not on how the weapon is used but the danger of the injury, if not immediately fatal. Saying a single knife slash can cause more damage than a gun shot may be true comparing a .22 round from a handgun compared to a large or serrated knife, but does not consider situations where the bullet wound is not a nice clean hole or has a messy exit wound.
@fordsrgay4881
@fordsrgay4881 2 жыл бұрын
There are hammerless revolvers that never jam as well if we want to get into it. Certain units carried em UC for that reason. Can be fired semi auto out of a pocket, through a shirt/jacket specifically in those close range split second confrontations
@duncanhorne962
@duncanhorne962 2 жыл бұрын
As the saying goes, don't bring a "KNIFE" to a "GUN" fight, soz, but It always comes to mind!
@honorb4glory606
@honorb4glory606 2 жыл бұрын
Depends on which knife (and how sharp it is) you're comparing to which gun, and at what range. A 3" blade tactical folder vs. a 9mm auto at 10 feet, 9mm wins. A 5" blade fighting knife vs. a .22 auto at 2 feet, fighting knife wins. A 4" fixed blade skinner vs. a hammerless .38 revolver at 2 feet, revolver.
@vexrich
@vexrich 2 жыл бұрын
It's worth considering that a knife is harder to get out of someone's hand if you already have the weapon arm trapped, and according to your own criteria for self defense tools, a knife can cause more damage with relatively little force (compared to smacking someone with a gun) but obviously a gun is more likely to stop a fight at any range with less specific training.
@brimstone33
@brimstone33 2 жыл бұрын
OTOH it is easier to pull a trigger with a weapon arm trapped than to stab.
@vexrich
@vexrich 2 жыл бұрын
@@brimstone33 If you can get a good shot on target, I wouldn't consider it to be trapped.
@Freefall92981
@Freefall92981 2 жыл бұрын
Mike is the dad of weapons and fight training. How much you love belts and holsters is just the best. Fellow older guy here and this really resonates with me.
@dvldgz6306
@dvldgz6306 2 жыл бұрын
I think this idea comes from how much of a hard time new shooters have hitting paper 5 or 10 yards out and how easy it is for someone with a knife and no martial arts experience to cut people with experience (I got only anecdotal proof of this with training knives)
@TonyfromBham
@TonyfromBham 2 жыл бұрын
“Dangerous” & “effective” are not synonyms.
@HouseNoir
@HouseNoir 2 жыл бұрын
I think there's a difference between fear and danger here that isn't being touched on. We do fear guns because of their potential to cause damage ( i.e. Death) from minimum input. That only means that guns are very dangerous when primed (and possibly weilded) by capable people. Knives are on the other hand are almost always dangerous in any state and don't elicit the same fear response.
@madtrade
@madtrade 2 жыл бұрын
i like this train of thought also funny enough i think someone with knife is more 'willing' to use it i remember to read a long times ago about how few bullets actually hit their target in close combat shit there is a ENDLESS bunch of drill rapper shooting each others on the weekly and in the end not many dies in the end i fear both 🙂
@1122-q1e
@1122-q1e 2 жыл бұрын
Another thing to consider is accessibility, in most parts of the world knives are much easier to get, easier to conceal(depending on the size of course) and easier to legally justify. Also they can be cheaper, easier to get rid of and to a certain degree untraceable in comparison to firearms which have serial numbers
@raychilensky3618
@raychilensky3618 2 жыл бұрын
I'm an ex-LEO. The idea of what implement or tool is 'more dangerous than the other seems, to me, to be sort of silly. I gun can kill you. A knife can kill you. A baseball bat can kill you. What needs to be considered is an implement's combat efficiency in a given context. Guns, in the vast majority of situations, are more efficient at doing harm to human beings. But for the 5000 or so years of recorded history before firearms were invented, people were killing one another quite handily with sharp/pointy things and blunt heavy things. 'More dangerous' is a subjective term. I know this is a trite statement, but it is neither guns nor knives that are dangerous. They are inanimate objects. People, in accordance with their will, intention, and determination are dangerous; guns and knives are tools.
@leewightman8001
@leewightman8001 2 жыл бұрын
A gun that shoots knifes would be a dope weapon
@rileyowen7546
@rileyowen7546 2 жыл бұрын
“Is a knife or gun more dangerous?” without any quantification is an unanswerable question. A knife and a gun sitting on a table: neither are dangerous. A knife in my hand has done way more damage than the gun in Ted Nugent’s foyer. What shall we conclude then? [Yes I heard the context of choosing vs worrying about a weapon] You seem to be assuming the gun is loaded, which was never specified in the question, so again the question-as posed-has no answer. Then to (rightly) reprove people who lack the skill to address bias and determine underreporting factors as a means to ignore any statistical reasoning is without intellectual merit. “A knife is more dangerous than a gun” is a nonsense statement, but this attempt at picking it apart is philosophically vacuous.
@nikitachirich7985
@nikitachirich7985 2 жыл бұрын
I knew there was going to be a comment from someone like you. LOL its guaranteed .
@joeport7591
@joeport7591 Жыл бұрын
"A knife doesn't jam." Yea well a gun doesn't get blunt.
@NotHPotter
@NotHPotter 2 жыл бұрын
damn, we gettin' fancy with the multiple simultaneous camera angles and the cuts for emphasis mid phrase. lol, but seriously, the editing on this is quite sharp! kudos to whoever's handling that.
@hard2hurt
@hard2hurt 2 жыл бұрын
Still just me lol
@NotHPotter
@NotHPotter 2 жыл бұрын
@@hard2hurt such an artisté
@SI-GOD
@SI-GOD 2 жыл бұрын
In terms of accidental injury, the knife is more dangerous because you often don't think of it as deadly so you are not as cautious. Especially a dull knife.... press harder to cut and then it slips. A gun is defiantly more deadly especially with ranged attacks.
@roofdogblues7400
@roofdogblues7400 2 жыл бұрын
Depends on how you mean "dangerous". Are superficial cuts dangerous? I don't think so. Are deep wounds dangerous? Yes. I'd guess I've used a knife for about half of my living days, and only once had to get stitches, most of my accidental cuts were superficial and didn't even need a bandage. Never heard of knife related accidental deaths, but I've heard of gun related accidental deaths, they even have a statistic for it. So one is definitely more dangerous than the other, and that one would be the one that has an accidental death statistic. Knives just have an accidental injury statistic.
@raydrexler5868
@raydrexler5868 2 жыл бұрын
Craziest part of this whole thing to me is, how come I can carry any gun I want to, just about, but not any blade I wanna carry. Or nunchucks for that matter? Not that I would but how do you ban nunchucks and not the far more dangerous weapon? Not that I’m for banning a weapon, just wondering about the nonsensical nature of the laws in regards to weaponry. Maybe you could address this sometime. Why it’s legal to carry an A.R. 15 and not a 4 inch blade.
@sirsir108
@sirsir108 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like a knife may be more likely to be used especially in places where the sound of a gun would draw attention but I don't think a knife is more dangerous Like if your chilling outside of bar someone may be more willing to go to a knife vs a gun but I really don't think a knife is more dangerous that's why people hunt with guns more than knifes I've been at bars where someone got stabbed outside a few times never had a gunshot go off outside of bar
@EDCandLace
@EDCandLace 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a female that has carried a ccw since I was 21, I'm also very in to knives and training with both. I carry both because situation dependent will determine what i would use and I can sit and fidget with my sidearm and I can with my edc knives... I will say this if my life is on the line, I will trust the little .4 inch Dia piece of copper and lead rather then the 3 to 3.5 inch piece of premium powder met steel 😉
@matthewantonello5029
@matthewantonello5029 2 жыл бұрын
Ive done a little knife training and no gun training so i may be wrong. but if i had to wrestle a weapon off somebody, i think wrestling the gun seems easier. Obviously especially with cloths involved id rather be slashed than shot but once the distance is closed retracting the knife away from the hand thats trying to grab at it can easily cause injury. a gun is only really dangerous when the trigger gets pulled and its pointing in the right direction.
@jaybeam1466
@jaybeam1466 2 жыл бұрын
To all the "knives don't jam" people: GUNS DON'T JAM AS OFTEN AS YOU THINK THEY DO.
@madtrade
@madtrade 2 жыл бұрын
this is why we need a portable flame thrower for self defense !
@KicKandRoll666
@KicKandRoll666 2 жыл бұрын
I think there a lot of small points that can make a diffrence in specific scenarios. Like a lot of people feel ok after a stabbing, think everythign is ok and go home, only to have a big problem after adrenaline runs out, because they did not realize they had a nasty stab. So maybe this is on more really narrow sceanrio where knifes might be more dangerous in some way. But i guess the whole point is a useless clickbait discussion. Both weapons are dangerous and have there pros and cons but people prefer to rank things than to talk about pros and cons.
@colinploeg6128
@colinploeg6128 2 жыл бұрын
Not a combat specialist, but I'm curious. Is there maybe something to the psychology of the wielders of each weapon type? Like someone who will attack you with a knife is usually a more dangerous person than someone attacking with a gun, not because the weapon is more dangerous but precisely because of the mentality stabbing someone requires?
@theblueshadow3537
@theblueshadow3537 2 жыл бұрын
I knew a guy that thought swords are better than guns. He would say "A gun will make a small hole but a sword can cut you in half"
@biohazard724
@biohazard724 2 жыл бұрын
A gun that fires knives
@bestjobieverhad9584
@bestjobieverhad9584 2 жыл бұрын
I stopped appendix carrying T1C and went to XC1 pro appendix and weak hand I use Toor Serpent. Neomag in my pocket and with large amount of people I just put on a tenicor mad carrier and take the fixed blade off. I use the fixed blade in case I get into an accident I can cut my seat belt 🧐
@minzekatze
@minzekatze 2 жыл бұрын
i think it also depends on the situation and the user if you don't expect an attack a knife could be more deadly in close combat because you have less time to react but on the other hand people often survive multiple knife cuts and 1-2 good placed gun shots can kill someone so i don't think you can choose one over another at least not in every situation
@roofdogblues7400
@roofdogblues7400 2 жыл бұрын
How many knife related accidental deaths have you heard about, now how about gun related accidental deaths? Sure, I've accidentally cut myself with a knife far more often than I've accidentally shot myself(Never), but then I handle knives far far more often than I do guns, and those cuts are mostly superficial, don't even need stitches, not life threatening at all.
@saintultra2737
@saintultra2737 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes. Your knife is more dangerous than 9mm hollow point.
@Nobody32990
@Nobody32990 2 жыл бұрын
9mm hollow has more chances to miss vitals, knife has more chances to hit them (even on accident).
@saintultra2737
@saintultra2737 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nobody32990 this isn’t true in the context of the reliability of a firearm over a knife. Infantry doesn’t clear houses with knives due to the potential to miss vitals/body. Swat doesn’t resolve hostage situations with a knife. Ten times out of ten, in a self defense situation against someone armed with a knife- you will want a firearm.
@manuelzapata1192
@manuelzapata1192 2 жыл бұрын
I asked a cop I've heard this question before. When I worked at a convenient store. He said the soft body armor We'll stop a bullet. but it's not stab proof. But I've never been shot at or Stabbed And I've never had to detain a suspect.
@Leadfoot_P71
@Leadfoot_P71 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but there's also hard body armor that will stop a stab but not a bullet.
@manuelzapata1192
@manuelzapata1192 2 жыл бұрын
@@Leadfoot_P71 I don't think this officer was swat so I didn't have a plate Carrier and I think they just offer them soft body armor Was under his uniform. And I didn't know what kind of body armor they issued for Salem police department
@smokepirate3107
@smokepirate3107 2 жыл бұрын
It also comes down to the skill set and training of the individual using the weapon. While a gun is an objectively better weapon than a knife when both are lying inactive a table, I feel a gun takes more training, practice, and fine motor skills to use effectively in a high stress environment than a knife. I personally prefer a knife as my main self defense weapon as I feel the benefits of a gun over a knife do not outweigh the mass amounts of paperwork and government bullshit I need to do where I live in order to get a concealed carry. I'm also not super keen on the idea of shooting someone and having the bullet go through them and continue on into something or someone I really didn't wanna shoot. Always know what's behind your targets and all, but stress, anxiety, and adrenaline are a serious bitch to deal with. Both have their pros and cons, but both are very capable of killing. Protect yourself with whichever you're comfortable and trained with, and appreciate different weaponry for their designs and philosophy of application.
@PhonzyNyan
@PhonzyNyan 2 жыл бұрын
Do you wanna know a different between a gun and a knife? Gun's have a safety switch.
@XXNerdzillaXX
@XXNerdzillaXX 2 жыл бұрын
I've been using those belts for years, they are awesome and I highly recommend them!!!
@dss-homemadestuff8580
@dss-homemadestuff8580 2 жыл бұрын
Knife or Gun...(or what ever tool), does not matter, the tool is only dangerous if you have knowledge on how to use it... if not, it may be more dangerous to yourself.
@KazuyukiTaka
@KazuyukiTaka 2 жыл бұрын
I think you hit the nail on the head. The average person doesn't understand how scary knives are, so those "in the know" are more likely to up sell their danger, and since everyone already understands how dangerous guns are, it makes for an easy point of comparison. It's an exaggeration I'm okay with, though. The main takeaway I got from knife defense classes was that I sure as shit don't want to fight someone who has one, and I think too many people have misplaced confidence that it's a movie-like scenario where you just step to the side and disarm them.
@Liberty-rn4wy
@Liberty-rn4wy 2 жыл бұрын
A long-time Chicago cop told my dad many years ago don't use a knife, the reason is it can stick into the bad guy and he keeps coming (remember you are dealing with adrenaline/drugs/booze here). Most bad guy attackers will be "on something." Use OC spray. And he knew what he was talking about. I prefer OC spray for many reasons. One is that it "takes away" the eyes of the bad guy/attacker. hard to fight when you can't really see. Secondly, you avoid the "it goes in and he just keeps coming" problem. Also, of course, far less chance of lethality and all the moral and legal hassles. In police training courses and security courses they teach the concept of the apex predator. The apex predator "hunts" with his eyes. The eyes are forward to focus on prey (with prey they are on the side). So the idea taught to police is to "take away" use of the eyes. OC spray is great for that.
@bullfrogboss8008
@bullfrogboss8008 2 жыл бұрын
12:16 actually nowadays nobody does sentry removal with knives. They use silenced .22 pistols for this
@casperl315
@casperl315 2 жыл бұрын
I've watched a few vids you've put out. All of them are good, this however is the video that made me subscribe to your channel. I'm very pro knife, however you've fully covered the explaining why and how a firearm is a more well rounded more dangerous weapon. I still love my knives, however great points!!
@blairegirly1497
@blairegirly1497 2 жыл бұрын
I mean a knife in the hands of some one trained might be more dangerous than a gun in the hands of someone who isn't trained
@hard2hurt
@hard2hurt 2 жыл бұрын
Umm... and a bicycle might go faster than a car with no gas... super relevant
@albertf.9198
@albertf.9198 2 жыл бұрын
The destitute are probably more likely to be armed with a knife, and some folks might think that destitute criminals are most dangerous to THEM than more privileged crooks with guns. More scary, maybe, anyway.
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